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Right, that's it! Fabulous Forty Somethings ttc want our bfp's and we want them now! We have waited long enough!

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hopefulgum · 05/03/2013 09:51

Here's our shiney new thread. The one where I finally get upduffed with everyone else! Smile

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Diege · 14/03/2013 14:06

Hi everyone Smile. Firstly calendargirl I am so sorry to read your news Sad You are in my thoughts and what you must be going through now, both physically and emotionally is heartbreaking. If it helps re: process of miscarriage I had a painless mc at 8 weeks (sack has stopped growing at 6, no baby seen) that sounds a little like what you describe. Thinking of you xxx
notsoold early scan sounds sensible if it will help put your mind at rest. How lovely having the honour of being a birth partner.
isabeller gosh what an anxious time for you Sad. It sounds like you have indeed had more than your fair share of health-related anxiety, and hope that you get a break from it soon x
Gum sounds like you're going to be busy this weekend Wink
I'm doing ok thanks, still very sick, some days more than others. I've not had any spotting since last Sunday but am going to book an early scan, hopefully through gp referral that I hope will happen on Monday. Will be good to see what's going on in there!
Sorry not to name check more- have been reading when I can but struggling to keep up/post. Love to all xxx

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Morien · 14/03/2013 18:47

What would we all do without this thread? There's so much warmth and support on here; I find it really touching.

Isabeller, what an awful lot you have been through, health-wise. I'm thinking of you and hoping for the best for you.

calendargal how are you? I hope it continues to be painless, as mine (at just over 11 weeks, it having stopped growing about 2 weeks before) was utterly excruciating. It doesn't change the outcome, but if you can avoid the pain, so much the better.

isadorable how sad about your SIL, and even sadder that it's affected your relationship with your brother. I can identify with her to the extent that I too have always been successful (career-wise - certainly not relationship-wise until quite recently!) and am finding it difficult to come to terms with the idea of struggling to do something as apparently simple as having a baby (I don't have children yet), but people around me are allowed to have babies! And I have 3 DSCs who look like my DP and I love that about them. Where in the south of France are you?

notsoold I understand your anxiety and I know there's no point telling you to try not to worry. Fingers crossed for your scan...

Diege hope you get your scan very soon. Poor you with the sickness - but I guess it's a good sign that it's persisting.

WRT my own problem, I'm now wishing I'd asked more questions yesterday, but I was knocked sideways when he said 'menopause' (ok, it came preceded by 'peri', let's not get carried away). I've never tried to understand it (I guess I hoped I'd get by without going there) but of course I know from this thread about day 3 and day 21 tests and so on, so in hindsight, gum, I should have asked what he meant by 'normal', because you're right - what's 'normal'. It's also the first time I've had tests done in Belgium without being given a copy of the results so I've absolutely no idea what they were (the figures were swimming in front of me on the screen when he gave me a quick look). Cali and gum had already told me about Provera followed by Clomid but the question deserted me. However, I'm wondering if that's the kind of thing that the Medically Assisted guy might start with, as the gynae did say something like, 'If anyone knows how to get your cycle back on track it's him'. I heard 'Medically Assisted' and thought, 'OMG, IVF, I don't know if I'm up to this!' but it's not necessarily that, is it? Isabeller what you say about wishing you'd done more active research into your alternatives strikes a chord - I think that's what I need to do. I need to go up a few gears and stop trusting that it'll happen just like that. I'm woefully ignorant of what my options are at this point. So I'm going to start right now by going off to research Vitex, as recommended by notsoold and gum.

(BTW I'm wondering if I misread the bit about assistance up to 47! Will check and let you know...)

Hello to all I haven't named. Have a lovely evening everyone!

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Diege · 14/03/2013 19:45

morien would it be worth ringing back to see if they can send you a copy of the results perhaps? Or even read out the key figures off the screen over the phone? Re:agnus castus I've had very good results with it when ttc-ing, and also when not ttc-ing it helps regulate my cycles and increases the luteal phase. I was taking it the last few months after a period lasting 2 wks; it certainly triggered very early ovulation for me this time!

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calendargal · 14/03/2013 21:23

Thanks for your concern ladies. I am fine - apart from the bad cold! I know it's because I'm very weak, but it's an absolute stinker. Still no pain - I think I have escaped that. So glad, because I too have had the excruciating mc, Morien! The upside of that was that I found labour with my DD quite manageable (more painful, yes, but not sooo much more painful). But that was a later one too. This one sounds much like yours, Diege - perhaps it stopped at 6wks. Strangely I find it comforting that it never seemed to become an embryo (at least not one with a beating heart).

Really, I had never heard of a painless mc! So relieved, as I could not have coped with that and DD on my own.

Anyway, not online long, so will look properly at your updates later. Glad it's still all going well for you Diege Smile and fx for your scan, notsoold.

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hopefulgum · 14/03/2013 22:07

Hi everyone.
Deige,glad to hear the spotting has stopped and all is well.

Calendar, I am glad the miscarriage has been painless, though I know emotionally it won't be as easy.

Is, gosh, what a worry for you after having cancer scares.I really hope you hear from your GP soon and can have the biopsy to put your mind at rest. I think the waiting part is so hard.

Morien - I agree with Deige, perhaps a quick phone-call can get you the numbers, which may help clarify things for you.

I got a "Peak" on my CBFM this morning, on CD 11, which seems early, but I don't care, I'll be jumping my DH tonight! I just hope that won't be too late, but I did an opk last night which wasn't even close to +, so I think there is time.

I would quite like to get pregnant this cycle. I am a bit fed up with waiting. I think I've been the epitome of patience waiting for my PLB (precious last baby).Hmm I won't call my DS my PLB because I really believe I am supposed to have 6 children. And I am stubborn!Grin

ThanksLove to AllThanks

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JBrd · 15/03/2013 07:01

Oooohhh, I just tested (couldn't wait till tomorrow) - it's a BFP!!

Am so thrilled - and so scared...ShockGrin

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isadorable · 15/03/2013 08:20

That is just great jbrd - well done you!

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greenlizard · 15/03/2013 08:21

O.M.G!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Go jbrd that is brilliant news! Congratulations! GrinGrinGrin

Fingers crossed everything goes smoothly.

Xxxxxxx

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mozzarellamummy · 15/03/2013 08:23

great news jbrd!!!!!!
Wishing you a smooth and successfull pregnancy!! Smile

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Isabeller · 15/03/2013 08:36

GrinGrinGrin JBrd

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hopefulgum · 15/03/2013 08:47

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Congratulations. How exciting!

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Diege · 15/03/2013 09:44

jbrd I am so pleased for you and very excited Grin.
Gum sounds like you've timed things pretty spot on for this weekend Grin. I really really hope it's your month (love 'PLB' btw!)
calendargirl it does sound like it you were going to have pain it would have happened by now. I know in my case that cycle-wise I did get back to normal pretty soon, and actually went on to get pregnant with ds1 6mths later.
Off to dr's surgery this morning after a protracted battle with the repcetionist...had to exaggerate a little to get a gp appt Blush but fingers crossed I can get a scan for monday.
Love to all xx

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sparklysapphire · 15/03/2013 11:29

JBrd, congratulation Thanks, how exciting! Wishing you a sticky bean & a successful pregnancy!xx

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notsoold · 15/03/2013 12:50

Jbrd....such wonderful news!!!! Xxx

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calendargal · 15/03/2013 13:24

Wonderful news, Jbrd - I thought you might be Grin

Poor DD down with the bug now - spark out on the bed and dosed with Calpol (running a fever).

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TinaO99 · 15/03/2013 16:16

congratulations jbrd :-) thats great news

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Morien · 15/03/2013 16:45

Congratulations jbrd - what wonderful news! Here's to a smooth pregnancy!

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JBrd · 15/03/2013 18:55

Thank you, everyone! I'm still stunned - never imagined that I'd get pg again so quickly.
However, it's a bit sad that I cannot enjoy it (yet) as much as one should such happy news - both me and DH were 'ooooohhhh' at first, and then 'here we go again' Confused

Started the baby aspirin today, then it's back to the GP next week to get the ball rolling again for the haematology consultant appointment, sigh... Not looking forward to that. But this time I'll insist he makes it an urgent referral.

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isadorable · 15/03/2013 19:16

I had a good feeling about you jb - for today you're pregnant! Wishing you all the best. I know it is an anxious time too though.

morien I am in Toulouse - don't think I'm not sympathetic to my sil, I really feel for her. We're just not friends. I got pregnant and had my daughter at 42. I feel incredibly lucky it all went my way. I had a really checkered relationship history. Lots of fun at times but no one I could settle down with, so when I left uk at 36 i thought I'd never meet someone and have a child. When we decided to try I knew it would upset sil but you can't stop doing things for that reason can you?

tina - how's things? How far along are you now?


Afm I saw doc who told me not to panic about AF just yet. The pain I have is cos I put my hip out falling over during the move. Better go and cook something. Everyone's starving. We handed back the flat this pm - phew! Got deposit back so now time to move forward. Will make apt with my gyne and get a blood test or two done once I can walk straight!

Have nice weekends all!

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hopefulgum · 15/03/2013 23:25

Deige, I am glad you managed to get an appointment with the Gp. Do tell, what did you say to get the receptionist to agree???

isadorable, sorry to hear that you hurt yourself during the move. Would you be able to see a chiropractor? It may pop everything back into its rightful place and may even give AF a nudge.

Jbrd, I am so pleased for you. I do hope it is all smooth sailing from here. I also hope you can see the consultant asap as it is so important if there are clotting issues.

Calendar, sorry to hear that DD is ill. Frankly not what you need right now. Id your DH back?

As for my timing, I am not so sure it is spot on Deige, because I have ovulated early (Had the O pain last night. It was really strong, which I hope is a good thing, but it was hard to feel sexy when it hurts like that.Did the deed anyway, and then one for luck this morning, tho DH couldn't quite manage to unload the goods againShock). Anyway, what I am meaning to say is that it would have been good to have SWI a couple of times in the run up to Peak day, but we only did it last Sunday, which is 5 days out, and last night may have been too late. However I didn't have a +opk the night before last, but did get one last night. Fingers crossed that it was all I needed.

At least it feels like this tww came up quickly.

I got a text from a friend to tell me about her friend (and my acquaintence) having her baby yesterday. She and I have the same doctor,and when my friend talked about how wonderful the doctor was I just felt so sad and envious that I don't get to have her as my antenatal doctor and to be there for my delivery, because I am not Flippin pregnantSad

I am trying hard to remain positive, but I also have to be realistic as I am so bleedin' old.

Anyway, I am taking all the kids into town today for passport photos. At least I have a fabulous tropical holiday to look forward to in the middle of our winter.Smile

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CaliBee · 16/03/2013 09:04

Hello ladies...I'm back and down to earth with a big BUMP!!!!

First of all calendergal I'm so sorry to hear the news...I hope you are ok Sad

And Jbrd...turn my back for a minute Shock.....congratulations my lovely, I really am very pleased for you.
So much has been going on..I will have to have a proper read later.

Well I seem to have come back to hell...and delightfully am finding myself planted in the middle of it. I called my Mum yesterday and decided to tell her of the engagement. I could tell her congratulations were forced (I hadnt expected her to do a happy dance) When I then went on to explain to her that I now had a huge decision to make re staying here on my own or moving with DP to Northern Ireland she actually told me off....and then went on to drop a bombshell. My DD1 is pregnant again. Sadly my daughter had dreaded telling me due to recent mc. My stunned silence followed by much sniffling down the phone was enough to tell my mum I wasnt handling it well and she just didnt understand. She went on to say she thought I was abandoning my family if I moved away and that she was hurt that she hadnt felt as close to me since I got pregnant. (the reason for that is that when I told her our lovely news she did her "sniff of disdain" and then became very wrapped up in her twin sisters illness and family feuds...I decided not to burden her with any more drama and yes I did back off a little). When we went over to fetch the hound a couple of hours later she didnt even ask to see the ring or congratulate DP. He loves my mum but even he noticed her rudeness.
Anyway I went over to see dd1 yesterday afternoon and gave her the biggest hug and amongst a lot of snot and tears (both of us) I told her I loved her very very much and that her happiness is my prime concern....and she does seem to be very happy.
To top all that it seems the clomid hasn't worked for me this month Sad. I had no surge whilst away and temps have stayed firmly in the late 35's (luteal phase for me always go into the 36's). On returning from London I called the fertility clinic in the hope maybe they could give me a scan to see what was going on, but was instead told by a snotty nurse "dear, at 43 you can expect some anovulatory cycles" !!! I asked "what? even on clomid when it worked so well first time?" ....apparently yes. So for 3 weeks I have felt nauseous, headachey and had a fanjo like the desert in drought and still no ovulation. Hmmmmmmm.....do I continue the clomid I wonder? Dp goes back tomorrow so it looks like our chances are out for this cycle (cd20 today).
I'm so sorry to rant on ladies....I just feel so poo. Such big decisions to make and I really dont know what to do [:(]

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CaliBee · 16/03/2013 09:13

I'm so sorry for the me me me post..I will have a good read and catch up with everyone elses news asap x

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greenlizard · 16/03/2013 12:00

ah calibee life is such a feckin? (well it is St Patricks day!) roller coaster sometimes and you are stuck right in a tumultuous bit now...bound to feel a bit stressful! Congratulations to your DD1, I am glad that you have managed to have a good chat and she is happy. It's really nice she was so concerned about your feelings and cares so much about you.

Sorry to hear about the clomid cycle not seeming to work this time - might your mc have affected this too? I wouldn't panic just yet as your body has been through a bit of rough time so might take a little time to settle a bit. Do you use a lubricant as well if it makes you dry (that can't help with enjoying sex or for TTC!) Also is it possible that you might ovulate later?? Don't know what to say about your mum really except you have my sympathy! Hmm It sounds like she isn't coping well with all the changes that are happening around her and doesn't know how to respond. All you can do is what feels right for you, your DC's and your DF - your mum will just have to deal with it! What does your DF want you to do? Has he been posted to NI for definite now?

Hey hopeful you are really my cycle buddy extraordinaire! I too have had really blank OPK?s all week even though I was getting high on my CBFM then boom, this morning a +ve OPK and my first peak out of nowhere and now I have cramps. It isn't unusual for me to O around CD12/13 so we (well I Smile) were preparing even though my OPK?s were blank by DTD CD10/11 and luckily for me DP?s bike trip has been cancelled due to the heavy rain so am planning tonight and tomorrow as well which should hopefully cover things as I am away on a work trip on Mon/Tues. I am also frustrated by waiting but I think it might be harder for you (and others) as you know you can conceive and have carried a baby to full term whereas I sometimes (in my more rational moments) wonder whether it might not be something that I am actually able to do. I tell you what though; if it doesn't happen it won?t be from the want of trying Grin If you have DTD on the day of your peak that sounds pretty well timed to me ? all those fellas were probably loitering around in your tubes just waiting for madame oeuf. You just have to look at some of the charts on FF and you can really see that it only takes one go to be successful?hope you will be continuing until out of the zone though!

I still can?t work out what my cm is around ovulation time when we are DTD. I don?t see to get EWCM around this time ? its more wet consistency a bit like sperm so I can't really tell the difference. Have been taking EPO this month again but don't think it has made a difference Think I might up the amount of preseed/conceive plus I use over the next few days. Still haven?t shared use with DP (trying to retain some semblance of mystery in between using thermometers and POAS!) but (and sorry if this an overshare) he loves to go down on me and while I am not complaining normally I can?t be having that when I have used pre-seed so end up squirming around and not letting him to it ? gets a bit ridiculous and he thinks I am just being weird! Is it true that saliva can?t affect sperm (ie. Should I be avoiding this around this time anyway?)

calendgal how are feeling? Is DH back home with you now? I hope that DD is feeling better and you are able to relax a bit and let him take care of you for a few days.

isadorable ouch! Your hip sounds really sore ? hope it gets better soon and your AF issues get resolved.

jbrd sure you and DH are feeling a bit anxious and apprehensive given what you have been through but it is very exciting! Good luck at the docs next week ? If I were you I wouldn?t leave until they give you that referral even if you have to be super-assertive/dramatic/cry/exaggerate (see diege *delete as appropriate or all if necessary!)

Sorry for the long post! My sister is coming round tomorrow with my nephew who is just over one and a charming terror. Can?t wait (& I quite like my sister too Grin).

Hope you all have great weekend and hi to everyone I haven't name checked

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Diege · 16/03/2013 12:07

Phew calibee it does sound quite complicated, and your dd's pregnancy certainly adds another element to the whole situation. It's good that you have spoken to her, and it sounds like you're on pretty good terms. In terms of clomid etc I really don't know what to suggest other than sitting down and having a good chat with an expert; I'd imagine they could possibly up the dose from what I've picked up on other threads, but guess too the (not fun sounding) side effects would then increase too Confused. A shame to have to come back to all of this after your lovely break awaySad
Gum I still think you've timed things ok considering when you got your pos opk. Ds2 was conceived day of ovualation (the only day the deed was done that mth) so yes while ideally there would have been ready and waiting swimmers I still think you did admirably well Grin.
isadorable sounds very painful! Is it just a c ase and wating for the hippain to resolve? I don't know Toulouse, but it sounds very glam. Are you French or an expat?
Had my appointment through this morning for Tues am scan (argghhh...have 'working from home' day booked for Monday) so am hoping I can have scan and then get to work quickish for lecture). Really hope things are ok ; lecture on the parliamentary process is difficult/boring enough without worries to contend with, but at least I will know where things stand. I realise how incredibly fortunate I am to even be in this situation, and that if things progress I will start to feel brighter in a few weeks time!

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Diege · 16/03/2013 12:14

x-posts green! Oh yes you reminded me about receptionist tactics... when it seemed they wouldn't budge, I went quite passive aggressive and said, ok, I understand, and would go to a&e and explain that even though you agreed vomiting blood (ok, a few specks , usual with HGBlush) was an emergency I'd explain to the dr's there that you couldn't fit me. I know from my knowledge (for work) of the NHS Choices doc and the NHS Trusts commitment to Excellence that they can't do that, and indeed after being put on hold an appointment was found for me Grin.A less informed person would have given up though, which isn't good Sad

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