Right, that's it! Fabulous Forty Somethings ttc want our bfp's and we want them now! We have waited long enough!

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Here's our shiney new thread. The one where I finally get upduffed with everyone else!

Green, that is wonderful news! I am so glad your little one is growing in there.

Mozzamama I am really not sure about whether the fertility drugs make a lot difference to older women. I think they are helpful if you are not ovulating regularly, and releasing more than one egg at a time gives the sperm more targets to aim for, however, I've heard that clomid isn't great for the over forties, because if may affect your fertile mucus and make the lining thin. But the other drugs, I don't know. The biggest problem for the over forties is egg quality, and no fertility drug can sort that out (otherwise we'd all be taking it), unfortunately. At least if you are being monitored whilst taking the drugs, you may have good timing.

notsoold, sorry to hear that you DS has been ill. I hope he's better soon.

Sparkly, I'm glad to hear things are going well, feeling tired is natural, but I am a bit cross with your DH that he can't be more caring about it.

Morien, I hope your sleep programme works. Insomnia (especially chronic) must be terrible. I think it makes sense to wait til its completed until starting the iui. Perhaps you will be upduffed before then

Littlepink - nice to hear from you. I have also conceived a few times around April/May, so I have everything crossed that I will be pregnant this time. However, I realise how unlikely it is for me. As I hurtle towards my 47th birthday in November, I am going to have to face giving up ttc. The reality is that I am still actively ttc (charting, opks,timing sex - otherwise I wouldn't be bothering with much sex TBH), so it will be a lifestyle change when I do stop ttc. And I think after doing it for so long, it will be difficult (as well as all the emotional shit I'll go through having to give up my dream of one last baby, and deal with the grief of 3 losses and no chance of a little baby to help heal the hurt)

But, for now, I just have to get on with life. I really would love another baby, but I can't so much about it,other than what I am doing. I suppose there's always the internet clomid in my cupboard. Maybe I'll do it as a last hurrah for my 47th birthday?

Fantastic news greenlizard!

I had a haematoma with DD. Big clotty bleed at 8 weeks, didn't think I could possibly still be pregnant. I rather shamelessly used it to have sick leave until I was safely past 12 weeks. It's great that they're going to keep scanning you. That'll be so reassuring.

Thrilled to bits to hear your news green...fingers crossed that little one holds on x

It does indeed look like I ov'd on cd14. I guess that puts me in with a slight chance (bd'd 2 days before) ....I'm actually more inclined to look positively at the fact that af should have come nd gone (just about) by my wedding day.

Green, I'm so pleased for you, what a relief your LO is there & growing. I know the haematoma is a worry, but at least you know why you're bleeding & it can be monitored. Hopefully it'll just go away.

A heartbeat green, wow!

The inner turmoil has started and somehow I feel a bit different this time, mind you (talking self down here) the first time I had an awful experience with the down regulating drugs. Thankfully the FET was timed to my natural cycle. No, I really do feel physically different. It could be my imagination.

It seems I am arguing with myself

Reading and sending loving thoughts to all

Green, huge hugs and good to hear everything is going on schedule. Keep yourself as sedentary as possible!

Isabeller, good to hear FET went well.

Jbrd, I usually have a cycle "as normal" immediately after mc. Ovulate as soon as hcg is below 100 roughly pus 10 days. Am also already in two ww.

I feel as well that at 43 and half I should start accepting my misery and move on . I an trying to interest myself in other things in life but not with big luck....
Hugs to everyone

Fantastic news green
I have just seen on tv, Tina Malone is pregnant after having ivf at 50, lucky lady.

Green ..I'm so relieved for you! Hope the haemathoma won't disturb your pregancy too much, it's good to be monitored!

Green wonderful news!!!

isabeller - very exciting that you feel physically different. It sounds promising. The waiting will be hard.

Mumalah - I am very jealous of Tina Malone being pregnant at 50, thanks to ivf. Donor eggs?? I don't even know who she is, but will google. Still terribly jealous though! If my DH wasn't part of the equation, I'd be finding the money for donor egg ivf. But, he is part of the equation, so it won't be happening I think he feels a bit old for it all, at 52. Worries about having to work into his old age to keep the money flowing for all these kids. It isn't something I think about, I always think it will "be ok" and that we can do without luxuries, but I guess it is fair enough that his idea of the future is different to mine and he looks forward to a child free time, with money to spend on ourselves...I wish I could see it that way too, but having another child is a matter of the heart, and I know it sounds cliche, but having children in your life is worth more than what money can buy.

Sorry...running off on a tangent there

I had a temp of 36.9 this morning! Cue full orchestra and fireworks. I haven't had one that high since I was last pregnant I think(I must check my charts so I don't get ahead of myself...)

Just checked, and actually did have a 36.9 last October and wasn't pregnant. However the time before was this time last year and I was pregnant! Fingers crossed it stays nice and high. I am only 6 DPO, so a few more days of waiting.

Fingers crossed gum sounds v hopeful!x

ooh fingers crossed Isabeller and hopefulgum

Very exciting isabeller and gum - anxiously await your next temp report gum. I do like my morning cuppa with a read of your latest report!

Thingers crossed from here too, Isabeller and Hopeful.

Am 8DPO, bought myself 2 hpt tests as well. Feel really not interested in testing, cause am weirdly afraid of positive. Just do not want the meds. Progesterone pessaries, heparin injections, prednisolone and its oh so nice side effects. But I trod on towards my future baby, just can not give up.

Morning ladies. Internet is dowm again so am using my phone so please excuse errors.

I got an amazing high temp this morning but it cannot be trusted because i had gotten up for DS at 5 and then took my temp at 7. It was 36.97. I havent had a temp that high for a long time. But i also seem to have a headcold so that could be why. I do feel a bit hopeful as i had a distinct feeling of nausea last night...
Typing on this crappy screen is doing my head in so i will check back in when my internet works.

Hello again, have tethered my phone (thanks to IT savvy children) so back again.
I haven't had a temperature that high since I was pregnant, but we all know that it probably means nothing. Maybe its a sign of impending menopause. Fingers crossed it is something else. Also the headcold thing is something marked on my previous pregnancy charts, or it could just be a headcold

I don't know why I said I was 6 DPO yesterday as I am 8 dpo today. Still got a week of obsessing over every little thing.

At least the sun is shining and I've had a bit of time pulling weeds in the garden. There's a bit more to get on with. Might be time to harvest the pumpkins and get rid of the vines which are chocking everything in its path.

jass43, I know the idea of all the meds etc is very unappealing, but just think about how worthwhile it will be if there's a baby at the end ((hugs)) When will you test?

Hopeful, even more hopeful then:-) it looks good.
Luckily I do not temp, so one less symptom to spot. I will test 10 and 11 DPO. Have to start pred and seek whether local hospital is able to give me IVIG early enough, before my betas dip. I know they would propose one week waiting and then I have to get the message through that I would by that time already managed to kill anything attempting to grow inside me. I think that part I am dreading the most. Getting what your own doctor has prescribed should not be so damn difficult, but it is here.

gum I wish you more luck than me, my temp went up to 36.97 last week, but then plunged down, and af arrived on Friday

But although I had been harbouring the slight hope I might be one of those lucky ones that get pg immediately after a mc, I'm not too sad about it. So much is going on at the moment, I started my new job 3 weeks ago, and it's keeping me very very busy - but in a good way. So far, it's really looking as if I have made the right choice, I'm really enjoying it. So much in fact, it almost reconciles me with the fact that I'm working full time and had to take a hefty salary cut. But the fact that I'm no longer dreading to leave the house in the morning is priceless.

I've decided to give acupuncture a try. A lady in my village specialises in fertility, pregnancy and miscarriages, I spoke to her earlier and have booked a consultation for Monday. She will go over my charts with me, take a detailed history and all that, and I'm hoping that it will do good. I feel that at this point, I need to take some initiative beyond 'just' ttc. And I know that acupuncture can help, I did it years ago for my migraine, which completely disappeared after the treatment.

green How are you doing? I hope you'll pop on here once in a while to let us know how you're getting on.

Hello, everyone else, hope you are all doing well!

Morning ladies. Jbrd, I am so pleased to hear that your job is going well. It makes such a difference to your life if you enjoy your job. Sorry this month wasn't it for you, but I like the sound of the fertility acupuncture. You are so lucky to have someone in your village who specialises. I have a wonderful acupuncturist, but she is a general one and doesn't specialise in fertility. I am often explaining fertility stuff to her. I'm looking forward to hearing what your lady says when you see her.

My temperature isn't as high this morning, but I was up much earlier than usual and it is still pretty high. I woke in the middle of the night feeling so nauseous I couldn't sleep. I finally did sleep and woke with a very vivid dream that I had just got the paperwork to say I was pregnant. Of course this was the perfect reason to do a test at 9 dpo. Sure enough it is bloody negative I am not really surprised and not really bothered. It is early days, and maybe the symptoms are all coming to nothing, but I still feel hopeful. My 's are so tender. If I have to endure cycles like this until menopause, then life is going to be a bit miserable. Why would I be feeling sick, having super sore boobs, stuffy nose etc if I am not pregnant? Is this what happens as we get older, with our hormones? I bloody hope not.

Time will tell...Jass43 are you having any symptoms?

Really hope this is your month gum.

Think I'm a day ahead of you but absolutely no symptoms of any kind.would doubt that I'll have any good news although think we timed the Dtd right,but as we know,that guarantees nothing.

Hope everyone is enjoying their w\end x

Just wanted to say 'hi'. I am a long-term 'lurker' who has felt supported just by reading about you guys. I thought you should know!

Have 3 DCs, no problem at all conceiving. Now want one last one and a year of ttc hasn't got us anywhere. I wasn't bothered to start with, but am increasingly worried...

I have slightly itchy breasts, nothing special. But I am on low dose pred since OV and that is supposed to hide symptoms anyway. But I have a weakest possible bfp this morning. Tomorrow will confirm or prove me wrong. I have here available only blue-die tests and they are cursed by many for false lines. I did do an OPK test as well, they turn up lines in pregnancy too and since fo rme they do not turn up with lines at an end of a normal cycle, I tend to take it as slight confirmation. Now I have a nagging doubt that maybe my mc is still giving me ghost lines, but I know n reality this is no tpossible, since I had neg tests in between. Upped pred to 25mg per day and continue with progesterone, I should have used progesterone until Tuesday anyway. Dread the pred side effects and first time in the whole saga of serial mc not at all exited and positive. Not really negative neither, just .... Feeling nothing

jass43, I am excited about your bfp, but I can tell you are feeling ambivalent. I do understand why you wouldn't feel excited after everything you have been through.

VortexofDisaster (love your name), welcome. How old are you? I know how frustrating this business is when falling pregnant wasn't an issue in the past. It has been a huge eye-opener for me, as although I did feel sympathy for others who had trouble conceiving, I certainly couldn't feel empathy as I had no idea. Now I do, having had three losses along the way, and now, the longest time since a bfp - 12 months. Will you look into getting extra help?

I hope everyone else is ok?

I've had quite a nice Sunday, though it didn't end too well. My DH's parents and sister visited today and whilst they were here my ds (4yrs) disgraced himself, he got a bit cranky and hit his granddad with his ukalele. I wasn't there at the time (as I had gone to knitting club for a nice relax) and apparently granddad got very upset and wouldn't forgive my DS,even when he apologised. When the grandparents left, he wouldn't give my ds a hug goodbye . I think perhaps his grandad is being very childish, but he is old and frail now and I think losing it a bit. Poor DS finds it all difficult to understand.

Anyway, I enjoyed a small glass of bubbles at knitting club and a lovely berry friand and some toblerone choccie. Yum! I also heard a feel good story from one of our members. She had IVF to have her three children. The last two are twins. When she had the embryo transfer, she was told that only one embie looked good, and there was another that wasn't looking too good and probably wouldn't freeze well. So reluctantly she had both put in, and despite the odds, she feel pregnant with both! They were born 5 weeks early but have thrived and are healthy 5 year olds now. So even when things don't look good,there can be a happy ending.

Vortex, welcome:-)

Hopeful, interesting to hear your last success is a boy too. Before I say why it is interesting I would send your lo hugs, because of course even if hitting is not nice, leaving granddad without solving the issue was quite unhappy event for him obviously. They love to hug and make up and are really sad if not. I have a 4yo son, too, and he would be exactly like that. But parents getting old is inevitable, so these situations can not be helped....

I got my consult results with Danish prof Chrstiansen and he said most probably my body just got sensitive to fetuses after my last son, who had placenta ingrown with muscle. It can happen to women esp. With sons that this sensitivity is formed. It fades away over years, the only problem being that my fertility might be gone before it fades this time. He suggested prednisolone still in pregnancy, but nothing else. Even not IVIG, which I have to say I feel happy about. Which means I can be more zen about this and all future pregnancies - no amount of running from doctor to another is going to get me anywhere. So I have decided to sit tight and let the nature take its course. If hpts get stronger, I continue with meds, if they move back to weaker lines, wil stop and miscarry. All without any intervention. I know my body every time miscarries itself, and I know there is not much tissue when it happens. I feel much happier even to be spared the hassle, if not the mc itself. I feel I can continue through more tries this way, as crazy as it may sound. But if you go 6 times a year through betas, ultrasounds, then falling betas, waiting in doctors office w all the expectant bellies round you, the fact that I can do lot less and still have the same level of hope sounds just so great.
Sorry for long ramble.....