Right, that's it! Fabulous Forty Somethings ttc want our bfp's and we want them now! We have waited long enough!

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Here's our shiney new thread. The one where I finally get upduffed with everyone else!

green...hope you are ok and it has come to nothing. Worrying times though. x

hopeful Happy Mothers Day my lovely...I hope you have been spoiled rotten. Its Mothers Day in Grenada too, and luckily DF was able to phone her and wish her a lovely day himself. She was off to the beach

diege all my Dr said re the clomid and being "overweight" was that "it doesnt work as well". Hmmmm...I'm going to say it straight. I dont think he is atall interested in me as I wont push up his statistical values on paper and therefore will have no influence on future fundings.
I guess when I move away I will have to register with a new GP and probably start the whole process again. I wonder if systems are different in N.I??

Green thinking of you !!!

Cali...it is awful that your gp is not doing his job properly!!! I don't know the systems in NI but hope that next practice will be more interseted in your well being...

Irish ((hugs)) please don't leave us???

Diege I don't know about colps but wanted to say hi there!!! 17 weeks!!! :)

Hugs to veryone I didn't mention...

Xxxxx

Morning Ladies

Thank you for all your lovely supportive words - had a bit of a roller coaster weekend. Spotting and cramping stopped Sat/Sun then started again on Sunday afternoon, my temp dropped to 36.72 from 37.08 on Sunday morning - was getting worried again and couldn't ring GP as the weekend. Anyway by last night spotting had stopped again and my temp was up to 36.97 this morning. Think I need to try and relax a little (who am I kidding) but I know what will be will be - also should think about stopping temping as it is one more thing to -obsess over analyse!! Got to give a big presentation at work this morning and I need to try and focus and will ring the GP surgery after that. The EPU in my area needs a referral from A & E or your GP.

Isabeller congratulations on your excellent scan. Good luck today. Everything crossed.

calibee I hope that your new GP in NI will be much more supportive than your current bunch. It is such a lottery on who you get.

irishmammy sorry to feel you are having a stressful time. It would be lovely if you popped in when you could and let us know how you are getting on. Take care.

Diege I can't believe they want to be poking around with your cervix whilst pregnant to see what they might want to do after you have given birth (if I have understood your situation properly). Do they just want to have a look or do something more "hands on"? Like you say a chat in July can't hurt but unless they can convince you of the merits of doing anything I think its perfectly reasonable to keep your knickers on !

green I hope you can have a reassuring scan ASAP.. I also had spotting in the first thrimester and then everything was fine..
Isabeller everything crossed for your FET!
gum it was mother's day in Italy too.. bittersweet for me since I should have been mother of two now.. and I keep having nightmares about that, however it was a beautiful sunday .. I went to a baptism and visited my 98 years old grandma who is very fond of DD2..
We DTD friday and saturday night but DP was exausted yesterday and I had a temperature..So I'm not so confident..now he's left for three weeks and he'll be back for my next AF unless clomid will screw my cycle..
My best friend is delivering her baby right now, I wish she will be like a niece for me..

How did you get on with your GP Green?

What a busy day at work...rush rush rush. I had the oddest feeling of increased cm though and bizarely my cheapy opk has a dark second line and the dual clearblue gave me a peak reading. I'm a bit shocked as I'm only on cd13. I hadnt even started to use them this month as I haven't ovulated until at least cd16/17 since taking the clomid. Oh well here's hoping that I have plenty of swimmers waiting (I got plenty of bd'ing in on Friday,Saturday and Sunday) and that its not a false hoper. Come on cheerleaders.

Calibee hope it's all happening!

Our FET went very smoothly. I was so nervous beforehand that I hardly slept last night and worried that we would lose all our frozen embryos but in the event the thaw was perfect. I feel emotionally exhausted now.

Special love to you mozzarellamummy I hope your nightmares stay away tonight. Thinking of you greenlizard and hugs to everyone.

Excellent news on your embies Isabeller I have everything triple crossed for you No wonder you are feeling exhausted, hope you have a lovely long deep sleep tonight.

Fingers crossed for you too Mozzerellamummy - I think your DTD sounds perfectly timed - always best to have the swimmers hanging about waiting for the egg.

calibee I have just performed a triple somersault finished off with the splits for you hope it does the trick! I have a good feeling for this month for you and Mr Calibee-to-be.......

I called my GP today and they asked me to come down and see different DR, who despite being about 100 years old and a man, was extremely lovely and kind. He told me that spotting is common in early pregnancy and that about 70% of women who experience it go on to have a normal pregnancy. He has referred me to the EPU for an early scan. Apparently I have to wait for their call tomorrow to give me a date/time. I started spotting again today but it seems slightly different a bit like it had CM mixed in with it. I really hope that my embie is alive and ok.

Xx

Green You must be sooo stressed! Sending hugs your way, fingers crossed for a good scan! I'd say the signs are looking quite promising, light spotting is OK! Thinking of you x

I still marvel how different the system is in different areas - here, we can call the EPU directly and go in, no need for a referral! Which is really great, since getting an appointment at my GP is a nightmare...

Cali and mozzarella Yay for your well-timed dtd-ing

isabeller Everything crossed for you, too! How long until you find out a result?!?

Diege I'm with you - if I was pg, no one would be allowed near my cervix apart from DH or the midwife ! I think you're perfectly sensible to want to postpone. As you say, what's the point in having the procedure, if you then can't do anything anyway?! Doesn't sound like common sense to me.

hopeful Your idea of Mother's Day is my kinda thing! I'm really not a fan, for me it's right there with Valentine's Day, Halloween, Father's Day etc. - just random days that everyone gets really stressed about and you're expected to do and buy stuff. I'd much rather have time to myself, too.

I've had a few rollercoaster weeks, hence me being quiet and laying low. Mostly good, I have to say! I started my new job 2 weeks ago, and I am thoroughly enjoying it! It's a world of difference, doing something that you enjoy, the relief is immense. It actually makes up for the rather hefty salary cut that I had to accept, that's how good it is. So glad that I decided to go for it.

Regarding ttc-ing, I've been keeping a close eye on my body, without actually stressing too much. This mc was/is so very different from the other one - in spite of it only being 3 weeks since it happened, my body appears to behave like with a normal cycle. Ewcm, temp rise, and ovulation confirmed by a +ve OPK.. so if I count the mc as CD1, I'm now on CD24. We dtd around OV day, but I wasn't really pushing it. I think I won't mind af this time, it'll be a confirmation that things are back on track for sure. But who knows
While the physical side of things seems fine, I've had a bit of a setback emotionally this weekend. We had a joint birthday party with our mums' group, who I've been part of since DS was born. Now they are all turning 2 this month, and we met up for a little celebration. We don't see each other very often anymore, with work and all that, so it was lovely to catch up.
Until one of them announced she's pg again - and, what's worse, exactly at the same stage I would've been at, had it all worked out this time We would have been identical bump buddies
It was such a kick in the teeth, I was in a right state on Sunday. I really had underestimated how this all still affects me... Feeling a bit better today, but still a bit raw. Had a good session in the gym, which has helped. Funny things, these emotions.

Jbrd, ((hugs)), I can imagine how heart-breaking that announcement was.

I am glad to hear that your body seems to be back on track, but of course the emotional stuff takes a lot longer to settle.

Green, I am glad you saw a doctor, I know the scan can't come soon enough as you need the reassurance, but he's right, 70% go on to be fine.Let us know how the scan goes.

Isabeller - I am very excited for you. I really hope this time you get your bfp.

Calibee, it sounds like you had perfect timing. Fingers crossed this is it!

mozzamama, sorry to hear about your nightmares. ((hugs))

8Deige*, I totally agree with you. I don't even want a pap smear happening during pregnancy when the cervix is sensitive anyway. They must be mad suggesting it when they are concerned about the length - I am guess the left hand isn't talking to the right hand IYKWIM? How can you already be 17 weeks? Time seems to be flying.

I wonder if Tina has had her babies yet? I can't remember exactly when it was happening.

I must remember to buy some aspirin today. We've run out and I would feel more relaxed if I could take it. I'm now 4 dpo. Not even going to take any notice of any of the symptoms I've already had because they always mean nothing anyway...

Just popped in to says that I have my scan booked for 3.30 tomorrow afternoon. Spotting has continued and this morning I had some red blood when I wiped which then stopped and has gone back to being dark brown. Worryingly there's what appears to be bits of tissue in the discharge and i have some cramping. Despite my DP's trying to remain positive I know now that it really isn't looking good. I am very sad.

Massive hug to greenlizard be strong ...its not over yet. Here for you x

green .. I am really sorry to hear that, at least it's good you will have the scan tomorrow and you will know.. (of course I hope you'll get good news..), sending you lots of hugs..
gum thank you! It's really good to have you here and be able to load off from time to time..
I went to my dr today.. that lazy follicle was still there and hadn't exploded so no ovulation yet, so 1 cycle clomid probably wasted.. ..
Next cycle dr wants to try a drug around CD10 which will force the damned follicle to explode within 36 hrs so to know exactly when to DTD and no clomid..
She didn't give me further explanation, back to home I google something and I think she wants to give me gonadotropins.. which are injections and with stronger side-effects than clomid and I'm a little worried.. I was just starting to accept to use clomid and now I've to stress myself about another drug.. My doubt is .. is there any evidence these drugs can have a positive effect on 40+ pregnancies? Should I rely only on trying with my body's resources? If any of you as any advice it will be much appreciated..
I don't want to become to obsessed with TTC , especially I don't want it to hinder me enjoying my DD first years..but it's tough...

green Thinking of you, all the best for tomorrow! There's nothing I can say to make you worry less, but I am holding you hand xx

Green, thinking of you, I hope tomorrow's scan provides better news than you expect. We're here for you.

Isabeller, how exciting to have had your FET, although the waiting must be agony. I hope you're getting some sleep.

Tina, how lovely to hear from you and that you'll be holding your babies in less than 2 weeks.

JBrd, great that your body seems to have made a rapid recovery from the m/c, but so sorry that you've had a difficult weekend - it takes time, but you know that. Excellent that you're enjoying your new job though.

Irish, I'm sorry you're having a bit of a difficult time, do keep in touch and let us know how you're doing.

17 weeks Diege?! How did that happen. Has the sickness subsided yet? And absolutely keep your knickers on - I can't see what prodding about while you're pregnant can be of any use, especially if they're not planning to do anything.

Calibee, good luck for this cycle. I hope you get a more positive response from doctors when you're in NI - though hopefully by then you won't need it!

mumalah, you sound like you had a miserable experience with the consultant - I hope things improve.

Not much to report here, I had a really tiring weekend dashing around with DD, following on from late shifts last week, then getting up early to do the school run - DH did offer but otherwise I wouldn't have got to see her. We've been getting on ok, but the last couple of days have been hard, partly it seems cos I let him know just how tired I was & he didn't seem to take kindly to it. I'm going to bed very soon, but he's on a very late shift so I hope to be asleep when he gets in - not for avoidance, just cos I need my sleep!

Hi to hopeful, mozzarella, morien, jass, notsoold, and anyone I've missed.

Hellooo there!!!
Rrading all posts and thinking about all of you.
DS has a terrible, terrible cold with fever and vomiting ( sorry tmi).
He hasn't had one like this since he was a wee boy as he is quite resistant to colds.
Dreadful really and I have been up with him (ds also suffers from manflu)....

Even dh says this is a bad one. Missed 2 days of school. Unheard of... Throughout the whole thing he still keeps texting!!!! I cannot believe teenagers and social media!! Lol...

Green thinking of you

Sorry not name checking!!!

Good morning ladies!
Thinking of you green, I hope your scan is reassuring. I had bright red blood at about 11 weeks into one of my pregnancies, I was terrified. But everything turned out fine.
Mozzarella I know what you mean about being obsessive about ttc, sometimes I feel its all I think about, and I know I shouldn't. I only have experience of clomid, I was about to try the injections you mentioned but ovulated on my own that cycle , I think they give your egg that extra push.
Calibee Fingers crossed for you !
Tina Your pregnancy seems to have gone so quick, I was lurking when you announced you were pregnant, good luck!
Isabeller How exciting, my fingers are crossed for you!
Sorry if I have missed anyone.
Af turned up late Monday night, so starting my first natural cycle, I am going for fsh blood test today cd2, does anyone know how to interpret the results?

Good luck for today green I thnk we all know how terrified you must be feeling.

Hi to all the other ladies from a lurking fizz . I

I seem to think that if I lurk and don't post then I might just become pregnant anyway... No logic there , I know but there you have it! AF due next thurs. I have 3 children conceived around may/ June so hoping against hope that it may be another lucky month ...

green thinking of you, as is everyone else here. Let us know how your scan goes.

Thinking of you too, isabeller - fingers crossed for this cycle!

And a big hello to everyone else!

CD24 here, but no idea if or when I ovulated so don't know if DTD well-timed. Have decided not to do IUI next cycle - timing was bad anyway because of our holiday, but what's really decided me is that I'm in the throes of a bad bout of insomnia. It's something that's plagued me on and off for over 10 years (chronic insomnia, not the odd bad night's sleep) and although I've tried just about everything other than sleeping pills, nothing works for me other than in the very short term. However, I've discovered a fairly new 6-week programme which is quite different and am feeling quite optimistic. Am only in week 1 so for now only have to keep a sleep diary (how long, how often I wake in the night, etc), but apparently it gets really tough in later weeks, and I really don't want to be doing IUI at the same time. I will, however, be investing in some OPKs (not before time, I hear you all cry) so I can make the most of my natural cycle in the meanwhile.

Will be thinking of you today green at scan time. As others have said at least you will know what's going on and it may well still be good news xx
I did post quite a long name-checking post yesterday morning and then the internet connection was lost Thanks you so much everyone for your support about the colposcopy and supporting me in not thinking I'm mad to wait till after the birth. Stuff I've read about short cervixes (and there is a lot out there!) says to avoid smears as anything that has contact with the cervix for some women can trigger contractions as 'stressed cervixes' (who knew there was such a thing!) don't cope well with me prodded/sampled. The colp is indeed just a camera taking a look, with a solutions sprayed on for abnormalities to be seen but for me personally it's quite a painful process and I end up with cramping and spotting and that's when I'm not pregnant.
Gum, calibee and everyone leading up to dtd timer/2 ww - ing fingers crossed as always xxx

The good news is that I have one tiny baby with a beating heart in the right place and the right size (actually sized three days older than my calculations). Yay! I was trying so hard to hold it together that when she showed me the heart beat on the scan I completely lost it and burst into tears. DP was a bit tearful too - poor woman had to give us some time to compose ourselves. I used to pride myself on my stoical nature - hah! I am a wreck.

She was lovely though and was telling me she had her second baby at 43 and that she saw loads of women through her clinic who were in their forties. She also said that contrary to my FCC my right ovary looked completely normal and she sees a lot of ovaries! I also now have a lovely scan picture to look at rather than my photos of my positive HPTs

It's not all good news regrettably, I have a haematoma in my uterus which is the source of my bleeding. It isn't too big and the doctor i saw afterwards wasn't unduly concerned but it does carry an increased risk of miscarriage although most cases the haematoma either resolves naturally and the pregnancy carries on normally (hopefully) or it stays and doesn't affect the pregnancy but results in regular bleeding throughout. I am preferring the resolves itself option obviously. They have said they want to keep and eye on it though so have asked me to come back in two weeks and check to see what it's up to, which is no bad thing.

Thank you so much for all your kind thoughts and support - you are all amazing and it meant a lot to me. i will catch up on everyone's news later now that I can sort of concentrate a bit more....

Oh green that is brilliant news, I am so pleased for you . Your little one is obviously thriving and seems completely unaffected by the haematoma. I have 2 friends who had this in pregnancy - one spotted throughout but all well and delivered a healthy baby at 42 weeks. The only pain was that she is rhesus neg so needed an anti-D each time she bled after 12 weeks (are you neg or pos?). The second had a huge gush of blood at 13 weeks, but nothing else before or since - again a healthy pregnancy. I've also heard of lots of cases on MN where they have resolved. I am also being checked for my fibroid whenever I am scanned - no problems so far! Funny to think there are other 'things' in there! Now go and relax with a big bar of choc and watch The Apprentice at 9

green I'm so pleased!!!! I don't know how many times I've checked the thread today to see if you'd posted.

That is such fantastic news green! What a relief for you! And it's good that you know the cause of the bleeding and that they are keeping an eye on you x congratulations

Fantastic news, green

So happy to hear that your bean is OK and measuring up to its dates, what a relief! And I think actually knowing what causes the bleeding is almost a bit of a 'luxury' - obviously not the fact that there is a haematoma, but that there is a logical reason why you are bleeding, when so often there is no explanation (I hope that makes sense)!

I hope you can relax a little now

Green that's fantastic news, you must feel so relieved.
I was wondering how you'd got on today.
How many weeks are you now? It's so positive that baby is measuring big for your dates! Take it easy and look after yourself. x