Right, that's it! Fabulous Forty Somethings ttc want our bfp's and we want them now! We have waited long enough!

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Here's our shiney new thread. The one where I finally get upduffed with everyone else!

notsoold good to hear from you! 16 weeks is so early to feel movements..
Rowgtfc72 welcome again.. unfortunately mc rate is quite high at our age ( I read about 30-50%), I read on a scientific article chances of chromosomal issues giving birth at 41 are around 2% .. much higher than for younger people, but still not that high.. Unfortunately when you get hit as it happened to me statistics don't matter that much..
I think we have no other choice than to keep hopeful..
Morien good to know you speak italian!
Cali good luck with your fertility appointment, will you have some honeymoon or just time together with DP after the weeding? You really deserve that!
DP is leaving on monday so I should need a very early ovulation or some very long surviving swimmers for this cycle.. one more reason to scrub the fertility statue gum! I also have it on my phone..

and Isabeller waiting for your news after friday appointment! Good luck!

Great news Isabeller! It's all looking very positive and I have everything crossed for you xx
notsoold I am in a similar position to you re: movements. I felt them very early on (9 weeks) and have been feeling a few flickers since then. Nothing at all this last week though (16wks). I do have an anterior placenta which I know muffles the sound too, so not overly worried though would love to feel a strong nudge or kick!
Gum I feel exhausted just thinking about your upcoming shag-fest. is the challenge on again this month? Re: my cervix, no, no other problems noted in previous pregnancies. I was scanned with dd3 at my request, but all well. I think if I wasn't worrying about this then it would be something else
Hello to newbies and to everyone else - how are the wedding preps going calibee? Love the dress by the way

hello ladies

sorry I've been absent for so long but just wanted to post an update. I'm now 34 weeks pregnant and have just been given my induction date for the 24th May! Am finishing work at the end of this week so should have just under two weeks at home until babies arrive :-)

hope you're all well, Isabellar good luck with your transfer. I am more than ready now to give birth but am more than a bit scared about having the responsibility of caring for two babies after such a long gap!

Thanks Tina will have everything crossed for you, how scarily exciting

Evening Ladies

Calibee sorry your DP couldn't come home and not from anything he had done! How frustrating and unfair How are you feeling now?

isabeller good luck with Friday. How exciting! Everything crossed for you. I think it's great news that your donor has had a successful frozen transfer - such positive news at just the right time. Hope you are not feeling so stressed.

hopeful got my pom-poms out for your shag-fest.....hope you are limbering up! Where is everyone else in their cycle - anyone in their 2WW?

tina wow, you are so close! Very exciting (and a bit scary I am sure) but you have done it before so you know you will be fine!

mozzarella hope you have a super-early ovulation. Were you going back to your Fertility consultant? Get polishing that statue.....

I have just come back from a long weekend in cumbria camping...on the weekend there was a heatwave (well our version of a heatwave 22C ) ALL over the UK - it rained in the lake district for 3 chuffing days....there is a reason why it so green At least I didn't get trench foot!

Off to my GP tomorrow to declare myself pregnant - not sure why as they can't do much but feel I should even if it's to say thank you to her for being such a nice doctor Still not sure it has sunk in yet and I can't quite get my head round that it might stick....

Hi everyone.
Deige, the upcoming shagging makes me feel exhausted too! But I heard recently that regular shagging does something to our hormones and makes the body more receptive to pregnancy. There's also a theory that having DH's sperm present frequently, will stop your body seeing the baby as a foreign object that needs expulsion. And after almost 4 long years of ttc, I am willing to believe almost anything.

However, my body has me a bit stumped and I am starting to worry that I am not going to ovulate. It's day 15,and I usually ovulate by now, but so far, no + opk, no twinges, and CM has gone from wet to sticky. My temp was quite low this morning, so maybe tomorrow I'll O??? I'll do another opk when I get home from work tonight,and will be attempting another shag tonight (had a break last night).

I am pleased with myself as I went swimming last night and after a long time of not lap swimming was happy that I swam 30 laps without too much trouble. DD has started netball again so while she trains and plays I will hit the pool, which means twice a week. It feels good to know I'll get some regular exercise, especially with the tropical holiday coming up - would prefer to have a bit less wobble in the thigh region.

Calibee, I am sorry you didn't see DF on the weekend. It sucks that everyone has to be punished. God, it must be hard being a soldier. Please don't feel blue about the ttc. Once you two are together permanently, I'll bet you'll get pregnant for sure. All that lovely young, strong sperm is bound to get you knocked up

Isabeller, I am soo excited for you. It is lovely that your donor is pregnant.

Tina, How wonderful that you'll have your babies with you soon. Such wonderful, wonderful news. I hope we'll get to see photos?

I've rubbed the statue pic again this morning....can't wait to get my bfp and prove that it works

Lovely to hear from you Tina I remember you were the first to get a bfp after I came on this thread :).

Isabeller so glad your news is all positive so far.

green...damn the uk weather eh. Glad your pregnancy seems to be progressing though. Have you many symptoms yet?

Mozarella no honeymoon planned. We will have just two short weeks together afterwards and then he is off again to N.I. ...I will follow a couple of months later once the house is sorted and I have served (served being the operative word) my notice at work.

hopeful. sometimes I think waiting for ovulation is harder than waiting to test. At least there is a sense of anticipation during the 2ww, but waiting for ov is pure nothingness. I hope that opk does its thing for you very soon.

Hi all, I haven't posted for a while, only lurking. I have taken last round of clomid and went for my follow-up appointment yesterday. Saw someone different again, who didnt even know I had taken clomid. He said cant offer me anything else now, only another fsh blood test. I found he was very negative and insensitive. I couldnt even say goodbye as I left the room, I was too choked. I wasnt upset because they wont give me anymore clomid, or that they wont refer me for ivf. I just want them to find out why im not pregnant, month after month. Was very upset last night about it all, but now having slept on it I have decided, that maybe without the pressure of clomid, my body has now been kickstarted into ovulating (ive charted for last 3 months), i am going to lose weight, start excersing and see what happens.

Sorry Calibee for being lonely.
Isabeller hoping for a good transfer Monday
Green, good to hear it can go well..... Same for other pregnant ladies who have graduated before I joined - but have lurked long enough to remember TIna and have to admit have thought how it has turned out. Good to hear they are almost here now.

I am ovulating, just two weeks after my mc started from beta value around 1000 and just a week after beta was 3. I am really angry with my body that it is so fertile on one end and then kills all results only after a few weeks. I have never felt quite so angry with my body for some reason and not enthusiastic at all about trying again. Will do, will start my progesterone supplementation dutifully, but feel reluctant to go through the motions for some reason. Am registered to run a semimarathon early in June and trying to loose prednisolone weight gain, maybe thats why. But it is in a way empowering to feel somewhat indifferent.

mumalah...that sounds wicked , although having had a similar reaction from my own consultant last time it doesn't surprise me in the slightest. Could you maybe call your clinic and talk to somebody there and express that you felt this "different" practitioner was negative and insensitive and ask if there would be a chance of another appointment with your original Doctor. It may even be worth a word with your favourite GP to see if they can add a bit of weight to your plee. I must admit that if my Doctor tells me at my appointment tomorrow that he/she will not prescribe more clomid I would be tempted to tell them how easily available it is online. Hmmm.
Thank you jass for acknowledging me being alone. However far from being lonely I have my three beautiful dc's and a cheeky monkey of a three year old gd to keep me company.....its just that one very special person that is missing. .....just for now.

Good Morning ladies.
Mumalah, I am sorry to hear that the doctor was so callous and insensitive. ((hugs))Does he have no idea, despite working in fertility, that having a baby is a matter of the heart? Bastard!

The thing is, they can offer you other things. I am no expert, I have had no fertility treatment, but since 2007 I have been ttc (had my son in 2008 and trying for another since) and I have scoured the internet and read every book I could get my hands on. Firstly, they ought to be running some tests on your hormones, they could monitor you with ultrasound to see when you are ready to ovulate, they could try the drug Femera, which apparently is far superior to clomid (but costs more, hence the over prescribing of clomid), and is particularly better for older women. I just feel so on your behalf. Has IUI been mentioned at all? Has your DH had a sperm analysis done? ((hugs))

jass, although I have not been through what you have, I do understand that feeling that my body has let me down. With my miscarriages I just felt so angry and sad that my body couldn't do what it was meant to do. I have done it before, but now my body has let me down. It must be extra hard when you have to take a drug that is supposed to help you, but has side effects of putting on weight, which none of us would mind if it meant a healthy baby in the end, but when that doesn't eventuate it must be very frustrating. I think that training for a semimarathon is a wonderful thing to keep you focused on something else (I admire anyone who runs more than a hundred metres!).

Isabeller - how's everything? Anything to report???

I am pleased to report that I got an almost + opk last night and a + this morning, which means ovulation is imminent. Hurray. I had SWI last night, but I sincerely doubt I'll get another one in tonight, DH had to be persuaded last night, and I think he'll be reluctant tonight, so I am just going to go with the flow. By now there should be plenty of swimmers waiting in place, and I reckon I will have ovulated by the tonight, but if not, I'll go again tomorrow (I have O pain and shortly afterwards my cervix is tightly shut).

It is Friday here,and I am pleased that it is almost the weekend. We've had a freezing cold snap with rain and wind, so I look forward to the fire going and snuggling at home (though I have a busy Saturday and have to go out Sat night).

Love to all xx

Hopeful, we are then cycle buddies this month. I had pos OPK yesterday and if it is a true OV, it should be back to neg today. If pos OPK lingers in my case it means egg has difficulties releasing and normally nothing comes of it. I have had a few pos hpts after two-day surge, but never after 3-day surge. With so many mc one gets to do statistics, for what it is worth.
Still a week to go until the big consult my doc promised me with another expert. But I think they will only suggest IVIG finally.

Hello, everyone! I,m thinking of writing to my original doctor who I have only seen twice in the 6 rounds of clomid I have taken. I have seen different doctors nearly every time, each with different views and opinions. When I did see the same one twice , the first time I asked about hcg shots (i wasn't ovulating myself) and was told it was only used for ivf patients and would have to pay. I had appointment in between with another who suggested next step would be hcg! Then went to the next appointment and the one who said it was only for ivf said they would be scanning me to determine which date to come in for the shot ! Complete morons! However they couldn't get an appointment on the right day, and by the time they fitted me in it was too late ! Then I had 21 day test which said I had ovulated, I was elated to say the least! But as I had then ovulated on my own I was told I didn't need to be monitored and sent me off with 3 more rounds. I asked if i could just have the blood test to see if I was ovulating each month, but was told it was unnecessary. Thats when I started charting, and although I am new to it I do feel confident I have ovulated on my last 3 cycles. I was upset that the doctor I saw on Wednesday said I hadnt ovulated on my 3rd cycle. It would be so much easier if they all stuck to the same guidelines !
On one of my appointments I was asked if I had pcos during a scan? this has never been followed up, but may well be the reason I get +opk at different times all through the month! Also my progesterone levels were very low, so surely give me something to increase it ! So sorry rant over, I feel so much better getting that off my chest !! I hope you all have a lovely day , thank god it's Friday!

Isabeller any news?
Had a scan today after my first cycle of clomid and dr saw a big follicle (I don't know if that's the word in English..) should dtd on Sunday morning and let DP leave on Monday.. then I could go back on Tuesday to check if there's been ovulation.. (still have to find a good excuse to escape from my workplace.. )
Tina I'm quite new on this thread, happy to meet you and your bump!

Mozarella hope this is It!

Hello to all....

Finally got my man back....so I am a happy Cali .

mumalah my appointment went much the same as yours. I saw the main man this time....he immediately said that the lady who saw me last time should NOT have given me clomid as I am overweight!!!! However as it had evidently worked he was prepared to let me have another 3 cycles and to see him again in 4 months. Cant deny hearing that got me down a little, but if I'm honest I needed to hear it. I'm not sure I will be keeping my appointment in 4 months as by then I should have moved and it will be a long trip to make just to be told they will do no more for me. He also told me not to use opk's as they dont work!!! Hmmm me thinks he gets paid an awful lot of money to speak through his bottom. My opk's have always worked and at least give me a heads up to know when af will be due. I will take his advice and lose weight (infact I'm pleased to say I was 2kg down today from 2 weeks ago...but I piled it on after the mc) but have to say I have yet to find any Doctor I completely trust!!!

I hope you all have a lovely weekend

Ladies

A bit of worrying news from the lizard camp. I am just about six weeks and had some cramping and brown discharge last night and more today. I don't need a pany liner as it is just when I wipe but I am not too confident that it isn't the start of a MC....

Not a lot I can do right now except sit tight and wait it out but welcome any advice you may have?

X

Ps.sorry for the its all about me post!

Green Sorry to hear that! Not much advice, but didn't want to read & run. Please try and not worry too much, spotting is very common in early pregnancy, lots of things stretching and bean getting comfy in there.
I know that it's easier than said and done, and I might not be the most confidence-inspiring example, given my history, but there is nothing certain at this stage! Which is good and bad at the same time...
I'll be thinking of you!

greenlizard, jbrd's right - spotting (especially brown) isn't automatically a bad sign as it's really common. No point telling you not to worry, but I'm thinking of you.

green just wanted to come on to offer a bit of hand holding, I know how worrying it is but it could all be ok. I spotted at 9 and 15 weeks with DD2 but she was fine.
Does your EPU let you self refer or do you need to go through your GP? Even if the spotting settles I would phone them on Mon and get booked in for an early scan, you wont feel reassured until you see that little heart beat !

I've not been posting for a while as I've been struggling with deciding whether to continue to ttc. DH told me he's feeling really stressed(work, grieving for his Dad,taking on responsibilty for MIL, house move etc) and that he doesn't really want me to get pregnant now. He's worried about health risks for me being pregnant at my age (or if I had to go through another miscarriage) and worried about the risk of abnormalities with the baby too. 45 seems a lot older than 44 somehow,though I know it's still possible so I'm not putting anyone else off!
I'll still pop on occasionally and see how everyone else is doing.
x

Green, sorry to hear about the spotting, but as the others have said, at this stage it does not necessarily mean a miscarriage. Spotting could be due to implantation, sometimes it can take that long to find its way out. I had spotting it the first trimester with my DD's, and that was due to a sensitive cervix. If you could get a scan done, it may help reassure you that all is well. ((hugs))

Irishmammy, I can understand your DH's reservations, and these things worry me from time to time, but how do you feel about it? 45 does seem older (and I am 46, so I feel ancient and well past it) but healthy babies are born to older women all the time. I do hope you will pop in, I will miss you.

I am not sure that I have ovulated despite two mornings of a temp rise.I almost always have O pain, but didn't notice it this month. Maybe I was sleeping when it happened? My acupuncturist thinks that last month's intense (more than normal) pain at O time was "shifting a blockage", so maybe that's why I had no pain this month. I just hope it doesn't mean there no egg or something...Anyway, no point in being paranoid about it now..just have to wait and see.

Calibee, nice that your DF is home Why is being overwieght an issue when using clomid? I hadn't heard that before. As for opk's not working, what the heck does he base that upon? Thousands (or perhaps millions) of women use them in hand with charting and they seem to indicate that ovulation will soon take place. I don't know why, but I find it hard to trust doctors who are men and wouldn't know the first thing about the menstrual cycle. So many times I have heard these fertility doctors insist women have the 21 day progesterone test done on day 21 regardless of the day they've ovulated, which is just so ignorant.

It is Mother's Day in Australia today, so I am looking forward to when my DH and DDs finally get up (they're all bloody sleeping in, while I am up with DS!) I am starving, but I think they should make me breakfast today.Pretty soon I'll send DS in to wake them all! DH is going out to his parents farm, as it is his father's birthday too today, and he is taking the kids and letting me have a quiet day to myself. I know that may seem weird on Mother's Day not to spend the day with your kids, but I really would like a bit of time to myself.

Green, I hope everything settles down. Keep us posted.

Hi all, Friday was a really difficult and exhausting day with DPs Mum but the scan was good and FET is tomorrow!

Thinking of you all and fingers crossed xx

Fingers crossed for you green, though I do think all will be well. I had brown/pink spotting at 6 weeks with this pregnancy, and again at 8. Also cramping. From what I've read this is indeed usually 'bedding in pain' where the foetus implants itself deeper in, hence the spotting and cramping. An early scan does sound the way forward for reassurance if it's possible xx
Gum sound a blissful day for you being alone I would def opt for being on my own for mother's day if I had the choice. Did you get your breakfast?
Calibee agree that your dr. does sound a bit nuts. They say these things I think for shock value more than anything else, and it usually goes along with a massive ego. I also hadn't heard about the clomid and overweight thing
Well all ok here. 17 wks on Tuesday and gong to wimp out and e-mail work colleagues/boss as there doesn't seem to be the write time to do things face to face Health-wise all ok, though got a lecture off 'appointments' in the gynae dept at hosp. when I tried to cancel my colposcopy. Aparently now hosp policy is to do colps during pregnancy (wasn't the case even 18mths ago) to 'keep an eye on things'. Basically, they would point out any 'abnormalities' to you that they could see but ask you back after the birth to deal with them. Now I do know that cervixes can react badly to colps in pregnancy (lots of bleeding and cramping due to the extra blood supply, and I'm not convinced that knowing there was a problem but being unable to do anything about it would be helpful for me personally. Plus my cervix isn't exactly the most easily accessed in the world. I eventually agreed to go for a chat in July, but I swear they are not getting my knickers off!!! Do you think I did the right thing?
Hope everyone is enjoying the weekend - so cold here, rainy and windy. Waaah!!!

Sorry isabeller totally missed your post there! That's great news about the scan and so exciting about the transfer!