It is a fact universally acknowledged that a woman in her thirties in possession of a ticking biological clock MUST be in want of a baybee.

[ArielThePiraticalMermaid]

The former thread proved full of sadness and most vexatious disappointments, wherefore we know not :(. Therefore the BESH will be donning their empire dresses and enlisting the assistance of Captain Wentworth and his admirable breeches and Mr Darcy smouldering damply in his transparent white shirt both of whom with their pleasing countenances and sound judgements and enormous fortunes, in short both of whom are everything a young man ought to be in the expectation that happier times may be ahead for the BESH.

Hurrah! Austen fred is back!

Are you excessively diverted by this turn of events, Miss Hest?

I am currently being diverted not by a good book - although there is nothing I love more - but by The Walking Dead. Even though it gives me zombie nightmares.

Let's fake a cough, and he will have to ask us all to stay until he has impregnated fallen in love with us!

hesterblumenthal, how are things going with your father?

We are watching The King's Speech after a very long, cold walk and a huge tea of toad in the hole. If that doesn't send him to sleep I don't know what will.

Evening hags.

I'm loving the revival of fishes and paintcharts. And the addition of quiz names.

In paintchart news, I finally have a return to plain white gloss. I.e. the mc has finally f'd off. My ovaries have been twanging away, so I think they are waking up, which is a good thing.

I am flipping shattered after 6 straight days of meeetings (oh yeah, plus 10 days of mc bleeding). So I have a day in the office tomorrow, and then home, landing on Monday morning, ready to start another working week. Yay.

Fun and games euro :( You must be wrecked. I hope at least the weather is slightly better where you are?

I feel really very sad tonight. I'm shattered from being on nights, this weather is miserable, I hate my lack of self control that has allowed me to get so fat, and I'm scared that I'll never have a baby, I'm scared that if I get prescribed drugs HWCA (who has been so good lately) will let me down, and feel like it's so unfair that practically all my friends had 'moments of pure lurve' babies. But euro has given me a timely reminder that practically all of you have had it far far worse than me, so I'm going to shut up and man up now.

Twink I just logged on to say something very similar, it's late and I've had a busy day so I just need to sleep but instead I'm lay in bed alone stressing about lack of babies. I too feel very, very sad and very jealous of people who have a baby, whether they got it the easy way or not. Why not us?

Also finding it hard as we agreed not to 'try' anymore now with IVF coming up but I am finding that very hard. Just about to ovulate and MATV still wants a bit of a break although we did have sex last week. It's difficult knowing we could and he doesn't want to. And now he'll probably get cross that I've wound myself up. :(

Euro your work life sounds manic!! You've had a helluva few weeks xx

Oh rasp. Rubbish isn't it. What's the timeframe for your IVF? At least with not trying this month you'll not get your hopes dashed - cold comfort I know. Shall we set up new MN accounts and troll the antenatal freds? (disclaimer - joking! I'll troll on Nethuns instead )

Home a bit early tonight. Just in time to see HWCA go out to work. Last night tonight then back on early shift on Tuesday. Gonna collapse in a heap by the weekend, body clock fucked.

rasp hope you got some sleep in the end.

Have a lovely Sunday everyone. Any of you got nice plans?

I am lying in bed trying to decide whether I not to go for a run (it would be my first in about 5 years). I have put on a stone over the ivf period and it is not moving as fast as I want it to from diet, albeit only intermittently followed diet. I just don't want to suffer the pain of actually having the run.

Thanks Twink, I did drop off in the end because MATV came to bed and cuddled me. I told I was panicky but didn't say why. I think he wonders how he managed to marry someone so emotionally unstable sometimes! I haven't heard anything from the clinic yet and it's now 9 weeks since the hospital sent the referral forms. I tried to chase last week but couldn't get hold of anyone. I won't be able to chase from now on as ill be sharing an office. Might try lunch times perhaps.

Go for the run norks!! You'll feel much better for it. In not a massive fan of running, I prefer cycling of the two where I get to be outdoors, or walking. Are you following a particular diet or just aiming to be healthy?

Calorie counting, rasper. And a 5mike walk per day as part of my commute. It's not quite cutting it though - the weight is shifting more slowly than I'd like. And I should start running again anyway - it's a thing I should be able to do. Along with bonnet-trimming and playing a little on the pianoforte. A stone off will get me back into bmi normal, so that's what I'm aiming for.

Hmmm, maybe try carb reduction rather than just calorie reduction? If your body thinks its being starved it'll hold on to everything so slow your weight loss down and make you feel a bit bluergh. How many calories a day & what calories are you actually eating on an average day? If you exercise lots you need to be feeding your body right. Especially running! Any chance of taking up a few weight? That made such a massive difference to me, weight just disappeared.

Sorry some of you are feeling a bit rubbish.

Norks I had the same debate (well, re: hotel gym). I tinned it in the end and had another pastry for breakfast... I've decided to give up on this week and start being good after I land back in Blighty. I have to say, having some baby weight but no effing baby really sucks.

I arrive back on day 14 of my cycle (although i've got no idea when I might ov post-mc) and can't believe I need to get straight back to swi. I thought I was done with that for a good while. I'll feeling a little sad today. Missing KFZK, disgusted with my ginormobelly and occasionally catching sight of my old AN thread in active (current title is something about starting to show ). Still, at least I have shedloads of work and difficult clients to distract me.

rasp ARGH at slow hospitals! And I'm pretty sure HWCA thinks I'm an emotional nuclear disaster waiting to happen too.

rasp what diet do you follow? You have an amazing figure. What exercise as well? I won't be able to get to kettlebells this week unfortunately.

euro, nork, I've signed up for this to encourage me to exercise and give me something to think about.

euro can't you stay logged in and hide that thread? It must be like salt in the wound.

Sorry for general all round shityness Hags. Constant work pressure & this ridiculous weather does not help

euro, I don't even know what to say, despite having been through the same thing myself. Those bloody threads.

How is KFZK coping? AMNH was immensely stoic and English until he caught sight of a Men & Miscarriage leaflet that the hospital had given me. It was bizarrely old fashioned looking and I think that caught him on a very English nerve.

I hadn't thought of hiding the thread. I've never felt the need to do that before.

I'm not really sure how KFZK is doing. It has been tough for both of us to be apart this week. He's had dealing with his sh1tty tenant as a distration. He's supposed to finally eff off tomorrow, at a loss of about £6k to us. F*er.

Twink I'm going to get back to the gym next week. I was going loads when preggers, as hanging out in the pub seemed pointless when I wasn't drinking. It's just since the mc wiped me out that I have skipped it. New start next week. For now, I'm eating all the peanut butter cups I can manage. :)

YABU euro peanut butter is vile ;) And I don't think anyone will judge you for a bit of gym skippage, given the time you've had lately. I'd forgotten about the nightmare tenant, what a prick, what a lot of money to lose It's crap that you guys have had to be apart. Even when things are good I'm not a fan of being away from HWCA for more than a night.

What do you reckon the odds of me going to circuit training between finishing work (at 6am) and going to have blood taken (8.30) are? It might help me stay awake, but then it might do me in properly.

We don't read follow a diet as such Twink but MATV is into all this paleo stuff so generally we don't eat stuff that has been messed with ie anything processed. We also don't have any wheat or grains so no pasta, rice, bread etc. I do still eat the odd bit of potato and I have oats for breakfast but MATV doesn't touch it, even if we are out for a meal.
I do weights and cardio and pole, so i am probably exercising 3/4 times a week for at least an hr ago. Tis hard work but its become a hobby rather than something we 'have' to do so we enjoy it now. I don't think I could join a gym again, not right for me at all but I'm lucky in that MATV likes to have good kit so we've got everything we need in the garage!

Euro what a shitter re the tenant. Some people are just scum bags, can you claim on any insurance? Don't put too much pressure on yourself on getting back into swi & I'm sure you don't have much extra weight now, be easy on yourself on all counts! Although saying that I do find working out an amazing stress reliever. Aparently that's a scientific troofact too.

Is it a fasting blood test Twink? If so id say no to circuits unless you want to flake! If not go for it. You won't bleed to death with all the adrenine pumping blood round you when they take your blood though will you? :/

Rasp one of my requirements for our next house is space for a home gym. I want a cross trainer and a good weights set. I am jealous!

It won't be covered by insurance, but now the sh1t is out, the plan is to sell the place and initial enquiries indicated he might clear up to £20k on it, which would be nice (although it won't end up being much of a return bearing in mind this incident, the times it has been empty between tenants, redecoration, etc). But there should be a small profit over the past 5 years. And we will be shot of the hassle, which will be a good thing.

When we were weighing up whether to fight the tenant through the courts or just pay him off, I realise than I know measure things in IVFs (i.e. £6k=2 IVFs). As a student it was all about beer tokens. Now it's IVF tokens. how things change.

rasp I'm really impressed by your commitment. HWCA has a terrible attitude to food so its hard to eat properly. euro I would love a home gym but we're in a 2 bed flat and won't be moving any time soon for various reasons. I'm glad that you'll make some profit, being a landlord does seem like an outrageous pain in the arse for such a small return.

bugs it's lovely to see that you're feeling positive. Good luck with the eggies.

Omg I just sliced my middle finger open and it won't stop bleeding!!!! I hate the sight of my own blood!!! God damn husband and his knife sharpening obsession.

I love our little gym, we've got a turbo trainer to put the bike on, a water based rower, kettle bells, Olympic bar and weights, power rack and a rings. MATV has ploughed a fair bit of money in but worth it i reckon. Definitely recommend it

Owwwww my finger. I really hope it doesn't need a stitch :(