Elderberry Pavlovas Unite - the over 30s TTC number 1 (thread 3)

[Bunnygirlie]

Hey ladies, we're over here!

bunnygirlie, 32, TTC since June, AF coming around New Year!
Twinklestar 2, TTC1, cycle 16, BFP was due 19/12
BraveLilBear,TTC
Lolcbcb,TTC
Aquarius,TTC
Happylass 34 cycle 4 BFP due Jan 1st
Navis176, 35, TTC #1, cycle 3 (this time around), bfp due around 19 Jan (I think?)
Neshie, 31, TTC #1, on cycle 9, after stopping the pill 18 months ago (took 10 months for AF to return!) BPF due 12th January Fx
MotherOfCleo TTC#1, cycle 3, 5dpo, BFP due New Years Day.
Viviennewestwould, 41, childless hag, TTC one year (mmc in March), on Clomid, ovulating today!
Pipbin 37 cycle 16 BFP due 26/12

Zombies, 32, almost 3 wks pg (by my calculation)- per standard
measurement from LMP, 6 weeks pg, PCOS.
MeanMrsMustard 31, 5 weeks pregnant.
Quod,33, PG
Purplemonster, PG
Janey 38, 12 week scan on Christmas Eve
HazleNutt, due June 21st
Rach, 34, 13+4 pg, due 26th June

Apologies if I've missed you or got something wrong

BFN. How can my temps be even higher at 13DPO and it be a BFN? I am royally fucked off. I can not cope with this any more. I am 41 and running out of time..

Now, excuse me while I fuck off and go and repeat the word c**t until I feel a bit better

Pipbin, your hairdresser is a c**t.

If your temps are still up it might not be over yet Viv, you might just be too early. How frustrating though. Here's hoping

Ahh shame viv hope its just too early! I do find that a good old bout of swearing my personal favs are f###ing c##t helps any situation.

Hello, can I join? I was over on the just shagging thread for a few months but having just turned 35 and started taking temperatures, I think I need a thread where people understand my hysteria specific age-related concerns about conceiving.

welcome retro and yes, just shagging is for teenagers people younger than us.

Hi retro and welcome! If you read back yesterday's posts you'll probably gather that this thread could be called, 'Can't be bothered to shag but need to in order to get upduffed.'
I like the while ideal of just shagging but we are far too neurotic old so most of us need to feel we are taking control somewhat by tracking and charting to make us feel like TTC is not a bit of a lottery even though we all know it is.
I also have to admit that a few of us are upduffed already but are hanging around waiting for our cyber buds to get their BFP's.

On a slightly different age-related tangent, is anyone watching the Old Skool weekend on CITV? I have plenty to do but I'm not sure I am going to be able to turn it off! I am so sad

On the subject of my stoopid hairdresser's comment (she wasn't my usual lady) it did make me realise that my cousin, who is one year older than me is a grandma. And my SIL who is about 3 years older than me had a 26 year old!

Pip I think her ill thought out comment demonstrates why she is a hairdresser and not working in Astrophysics.

Oh now that would be weird being a stepmum to someone virtually the same age, it's bad enough inheriting a teenager!
Welcome Retro.

Thanks for the tissues, ladies, I really am not coping well today. I went back to bed shortly after the test (we sleep in separate rooms - always have. I won't tolerate snoring) and left DP this note:

'Test negative. Gone back to bed. I can not cope with this any longer and I can't tolerate your fucking selfish smoking, either. Don't wake me up before you go to the football and don't turn the fire off [it's a bastard to light]'
P.s. I absolutely HATE that you are seemingly addicted to energy drinks - more poison probably thwarting our chances of conceiving'.

I just woke up and the house is empty and I am regretting my note already. He is such a marvellous man who is aching as much as I am for this baby. We only ever speak to one another with love and respect and I've been just horrid. Where's the point in laying the blame? I'm pathetic and cruel.

[borrows Rache's hard hat and places it on own head] Hairdressers are imbeciles. My hairdresser knows I am a recovering alcoholic and tries to give me a glass of wine every fucking time I'm in the chair: 'Ooooh, go on! It's only one!'

Welcome retro!

Sorry about bfn but I'm hoping its just too soon. :( at your note. It's just you feeling frustrated. I would def get oh to quit smoking or even cut back, it might help? I know it's hard as we are quitting too but keep telling ourselves its for the greater good.

Cd13 here and according to monitor OV is over. Very weird as that means I should have a really short cycle this month, around 27 days? I never have a 27 day cycle, apart from actually last January .

The sad thing is after spending £100 on the CBFM I don't really trust it. I'm going to keep dtd till around cd25ish just in case.

Twinkle Stick the CBFM on ebay, it's where I bought mine for about £35.

viv - lol re dildocam . And glad it?s not just me who feels sad at ?sperm wastage? [giggle]. But sorry to hear today is tough?
captain - I?m sorry, that must be really frustrating for you ? there?s just too much waiting in this ttc game
purple - nope, I def want it more than OH ? he?s constantly knackered whether we?re ttc or not
[waves hello] at retro

Hmm pip I don't know. It's kinda a good indication of when to start dtd. Although saying that after 18 months of ttc I know what to do, not sure if I need it anymore.

Welcome, Retro

Twinkle, I think you should deffo continue bed-rocking and don't trust the CBFM. Would you consider charting your temperatures so you can confirm ovulation, maybe as a back-up to validate the CBFM?

viv and pip wtf are your hairdressers on? Hope they are at least good at cutting your hair!

viv I've said regretful things to dh before- used to tell him to divorce me (ridiculous) at the height of bad pms -ness- but we made up &sure u will too.

Greetings retro

twinkle I think I'm having a short cycle too - have had sore boobs since 2dpo &now early pre-af symptoms- I blame Xmas (too much sugar -apparently makes pms worse??)

ahhh viv sounds like you're going through it pretty bad at the mo, just talk to him and he will be ok, weve all said things we regret in the heat of the moment. Thinking of you

Hi retro!

viv, very sorry it was a negative this morning. Totally understand your frustration about the smoking and the energy drinks though - I've had similar battles with DH in the last year. He has finally realised (after 17 cycles for goodness sake) that perhaps I have a point and if we're going to carry on down the TTC road, it would make sense for us both to be in the best health we possibly can be. I'm no angel of course, but I've been taking action already, so he has some catching up to do!

Hi ladies. Having bad day here too viv. Tried to rock the bed this afternoon but DH got the shakes and couldn't perform, stress/pressure is obviously getting to him as he's usually ok prior to TTC (but then we didn't exactly DTD v often), cue him getting annoyed at himself and calling himself f*#king useless and me locking myself in bathroom trying not to cry and making it worse.

Out for dinner tonight with friends which includes the one pg with her fourth, if she cries again coz she's having a boy I may snap and either break down or deck her!!!!!!!!

Thanks for the welcome! I can definitely relate to some of the upthread discussion.

viv, my misplaced optimism may make things worse but I like to think it's not over until the fat lady sings AF arrives. I'm sure your partner will understand and forgive your note; it's a tough time.

So now I've got a bloody infection and feel like death warmed up. AgghhGHHHGHGGHHH!!! Had to do out of hours/A&E and now on horse strength ABs after a night of violent shivering and fever. Feels like a kick in the face as I was just getting myself back together and now I feel like I've been knocked right back. Don't have any optimism at all about anything at the moment and am really worried about what effect this infection might have on my fertility - I can't seem to find any straight info about it.

Bunny tell your friend from me there are worse things than having a 4th boy and that if she wants to swap for some time on the infected post-miscarriage sofa of self-pity I'm more than happy to oblige.

Quod - sorry to hear you're feeling shit. Really hope you feel better soon. The pity-sofa is a rubbish place to find yourself. Hugs.
Viv - sorry to hear about bfn, and totally understand the need to vent. Maybe some good, none ttc, just for fun, make-up sex will help?

Hello Retro!

So, what does anyone know about progesterone levels? Trying to figure what "a bit low" means for my CD21 bloods result. I should have been OVing on CD21, not sure what results or apathy of Gynaecologist mean. CD21 is late to OV, right? They said the Progesterone was 10.8, whatever that means..

Oh and Bunny, sorry you're having a shit day too. Our poor knackered men! And poor desperate us! FX it all gets better for everyone very soon.