TTC 10+ months thread 12

[buzzybee123]

A very friendly and supportive thread for those taking way longer than they had ever expected to make a baby.

Marking my spot. And a belated welcome to the most recent delurker!

Sorry about that ladies but the NHS have a timer on the crap computer and it cuts out at 2pm

lemon tummy grumbles could be good you never know :)

sar sorry about af, just remember that tomorrow you are going to be the beautiful sister of the bride, nothing else matters right now

well better get back to it, this is longest half hour lunch break in history

Marking my place too good to see you back on the last thread art Thanks for all the lovely words bout pic ladies, it cheered me to post it and to read. I couldn't see your pics though euro I need to reg on the site I guess?
mrsden are so sorry to hear of your horrid shock, you poor thing.
sar boo to period arrival.
We have landed in the rainy island, knackered and unfortunately missed shag week under the pressure of the last days, well of course apart from one bit-too-early-shag which is there just so you can't discount the cycle completely. Grrrrr.

Thanks for our new home buzzy. I've finished for Christmas now woo hoo! I'm waiting for dh to come home and then we're going to go cut down a Christmas tree.

Thank you everyone for such a warm welcome and words of encouragement, they are much appreciated.

Critter - I will keep that in mind when speaking to the doctor. I hope you enjoyed your boozy Christmas party.

Sar - so sorry AF arrived, head feck cycles are the worst. I hope you get more answers and good luck in the new year. I would definitely consider acupuncture or reflexology, I think I'd like to read a bit more into it though. Do any of you have any positive experiences?

Rabbit & buzzy - I have experience of having pets snipped too, it always feels a bit wrong. Poor things. My childhood cat went into hiding after her trip to the vets. She didn't come out from her hideyhole for days.

I'm excited to hear all the quilting chat too, it's something I've wanted to learn for ages but have always been a bit put off because it looks so complicated.

I hope everyone is doing nice christmassy things. I finished work yesterday so having a lazy day today. I have a Christmas do tonight but I'm not going because i cant be bothered with a smug pregnant ex-colleague who will be there. She fell pregnant by accident with a guy she'd been seeing for two months. Pah. So instead I'm treating myself to the biggest bowl of mac n cheese you've ever seen and watching Christmas films while waiting for mr naoko to get home.

Mrsden, I'm impressed at cutting down your own tree.

doll I've made it private again as drizz kindly pointed out to me that you could see my name on the page. I don't guard my privacy that closely on here, but it might be best not to advertise who I am that blatently. You never know who might be lurking.

mrsd you are cutting down a tree?!?

Naoko that sounds lovely. I'm waiting for a friend to come round. I might make Xmassy biscuits in a mo. And then we are going to watch Bridesmaids and drink mulled wine.

Done for the year :) Well, I am working between Christmas and NYE formally, but have decided to take all my owed study leave. I might do some studying (two papers due in January) but no actual work.

Nao does eating ginger biscuits count? I made loads of Christmassy ones and took about half to the in-laws yesterday. The other half is rapidly disappearing down my tummy. Which is still not happy. And we're out for dinner and pubbage afterwards. YAY for fun, but I hope it will settle the insides.

Waves and tailfeathers to all of you!

Indeed at cutting down your own tree. WOW!

Ah I see euro yes I guess that is best.
lemon eating ginger biscuits counts

Euro Your night also sounds lovely.

And lemon, ginger biscuits definitely count! Yum.

Party last night was a lot of fun. I forgot how much fun it is to get glammed up with red lippie and very high heels and swill white wine late into the evening, in a very child/preggo-unfriendly fashion. Hurrah.

mrsd I am so sorry that you're having such a rough time. Sar said it better than I could on the other thread. The tube problem is overcomable, but it is healthy to be upset by this awful surpr. It's a bloody nasty shock and just so unfair.

sar I am so sorry about AF arrival. I wish your body wouldn't send you such confusing signals, it is so unfair. Good luck at the wedding sweetpea.

naoko mac and cheese is the answer to many of life's ills, I find.

lemon hooray for being done for the year! Today's my last day in the office and there's very much a last day of term feel.

doll welcome home!

Back in a bit... just grabbing lunch...

yay I have finished work until the 31st had alot of what we term as 'non patient related liason/meeting' this afternoon

euro Kayla isn't too bad about the laughing, my sisters old cat would attack you if you laughed at her she took after my sister great photos, didn't notice your name not like we move in the same circles , can I ask what camera you have, Barry and I are into photography I have a picasa and flickr account but have my name all over them, but on FB if anyone wants to know

lemon you can never have to much yarn or fabric I have projects lined up and waiting, I had a look at ebay at some lovely fabric, would need to get a sewing machine too...............

doll welcome home

mrsd obviously health and safety isn't a problem where you are if you can cut down your own tree, it sounds like a family xmas movie where they go out in the snow and choose their tree . . .

nao can understand the not wanting to go, I had two colleagues from maternity leave show up, one knows my history the other one might do, but she is alright so it wasn't too bad, avoided all the baby talk. I have already gained weight with all the chocolates and biscuits we get, there is still so much at work to eat oh well never mind

Well I've had an odd couple of days, I am finally ovulating a bit later than normal cd16 usually i'm cd12, DTD yesterday under slight protest as Barry is sick AGAIN I have told him that always being sick around ovulation isn't very helpful
I have again this month felt emotional in the first half of my cycle and not at the end bit, not really sure why but I had a cry with my colleague when I talked about IVF, then with a friend when she talked about her dead grandma, I never met the woman!!! Oh I am usually hungry after ovulation and eat anything not nailed down but had that in the first 2 weeks Anyway Barry has tonight to recover before he needs to put in another performance, I keep telling him I'm trying to save him money by doing it ourselves and not needing IVF

Princess Kayla has now forgiven us for yesterday, Barry and I are very grateful not sure how she is going to be on Monday when we take back for her check up

I'm starting to get excited about the new year for all of us

Aw buzzy poor little kayla. Not much fun. I remember when my sister was abroad she was looking after a dog who got pregnant, and my sister only found out after the dog built herself a nest under the bed, ready to have the puppies. Sister critter had to take her to get a doggie abortion and neutered. So you are doing the right thing for Kayla in the long run! I feel so uplifted and cheered by your posts buzz.

euro Bridesmaids and mulled wine sounds like the perfect evening.

I love all the craft talk on this thread. You ladies never cease to cheer me up and inspire me. I think I might take some knitting to Scotland with me. I love the idea of quilting but don't you need a sewing machine to do it? I mean, I know people didn't have them in the olden days, but I reckon it might be needed to prevent frustration with hand-sewing all the little pieces of fabric together. I have to say that doing something creative has been one of the most soothing and soul-restoring things this year for me. I went to one of those paint a canvas and drink parties - they have places where you can pay to have access to loads of art materials and a canvas for two hours and drink wine and have at it - and it was the most relaxing thing ever. It just helps with turning off the TTC-obsessed hamster that is usually racing on a little wheel in my brain.

Quick question for charting pros. Is it normal for your post ovulation line to dip a little and then be basically flat? Or should it keep rising until a couple of days before your period arrives, then dip down? Having never had a temp rise before, I am curious. At 9dpo, mine seems to have flattened out - it's been almost exactly the same temp (still high) for the past three days.

critter what you have temp wise sounds 'normal' if there is such a thing. Up after ov then roughly the same until period or just before period. Don't ask me bout crafting though

critter according my ledger after ovulation it would go up to around 36.78 then after that it would vary between 36.89 and 37.12, so as long as it is high then all is good :-) mine usually drops around cd27/28.
Glad you had fun at the party I'm feeling all optimistic right now

wow thread 12 - and it will be 2 years old in March. And i'm off until 2013 now?whooopeeee.

welcome Naokosan. I also have a short lp - 10/11 days . Some people say it's a problem and others say it's not but many people do get pregnant with short lps.

Critter - thanks for that adoption link. Out of interest can Brits adopt from the States? I was talking to my bro last night about this as he lives in the US. he wasn't sure. I see David Miliband adopted their 2 kids from the States but then his wife is American. Also your chart sounds very normal. High is good.

Buzzy - poor little Kayla but i am glad she has forgiven you. Sorry you have felt emotional the first half of the month. I've been very snappy this first half. I am not sure why.

Sar - oh i'm sorry about AF. What a head fick and not what you need. I hope everything goes well this weekend and everything settles down .

Rabbit - love the fact you aren't talking fertility until the new year. Good on you.

mrsd - sorry about your sleepless night. Can i suggest a christmas mulled wine to relax you?

Euro - i love Bridesmaids and mulled wine. Have a great weekend.

So my monitoring cycle is over. - ovulation is confirmed. My immune results are in and I've been told I'm going on SP. I have high NK cells but everything else is normal. This will be treated through Ivig or some steroid something during treatment. I believe Ivig is the intravenous blood product but i won't think about that now. I am relieved I am doing SP as i didn't want to downreg and I think people with very low amh get put on SP. But does anyone actually have success with SP? Why do some people go on LP? I'm just curious?

So I think i will be cracking on pretty soon - whenever AF comes. On that note, i raise a glass to christmas and the coming new year.

Evening all. Shiny new thread ready for a shiny new year

rabbit pleased to hear that you are being so expertly distracted.

critter I would go mad if I had to hand stitch everything. Those old fashioned quilters must have the patients of saints!!

buzzy glad that kayla has forgiven you. Our dog refused to believe that he'd been fixed. He would still have a go with any dog regardless of gender or person for that matter that would stand still long enough

euro the photos looked lovely. I'm a rubbish photographer.

doll were you not able to bring along some sunshine? Welcome back!!

lemon hooray for holidays and nights out.

Finally curled up on the sofa in my dressing gown after a busier than it should have been day. Went to see the gp this morning who generally reassured me. Popped to the nurse for some stitch removal (just the ones that were sticking straight out and catching on things) and she said that they didn't look like dissolving stitches at all . The hospital explicitly said they were but a week later and they don't seem to be going anywhere..... I'm to go back if the other ones don't disappear on their own but that will of course be Christmas so hopefully they won't be in too long and stick [queasy emoticon]. Popped out with MrM playing chauffeur and saw some friends. Returned home a bit too late and settled down for a really quiet evening with the iPad only to be rung by the gp to say I needed to pick up a prescription . Turns out the cultures they did after surgery tested positive for a streptococcal infection so now I am on three different antibiotics . Stomach was just starting to settle on the first two..... Oh well. One more week and hopefully I will be all clear and can start 2013 healthy and ready to move on to ivf.

Waves to everyone else. Here's to happy and festive weekends for us all.

X-post joycep very positive developments indeed. I'll join you in raising a glass of water for now but wine soon

madness - oh dear what is a streptococcal infection? I can't believe you have had all this going on. Also i was told mine were dissolving stitches but they certainly weren't...maybe if you soak them in a bath they dissolve. Look after yourself.

madness sorry about the infection :( rest up and look after youself, I'm hoping that is it for Kayla.

joy I have high nk cells, they usually prescribe prednisolone, some will have you taking it from ovulation others from a BFP the same with the Ivig, depends on your nk level. First enjoy xmas. I sure alot of women have success on SP, there are lots of baby pictures on the wall at Create, soon mini buzzy euro and gin will be up there , The impression I got from Create is that LP is so that the hospitals can control the day they collect eggs as they don't work 7 days. I imagine some women need LP, but Creates attitude is the less interfering the better.

just looked at the side of the sofa and its been shredded

joycep it just means that they've determined the exact type of bacteria hat caused my infection so they're adding in a more targeted antibiotic (augmentin) in addition to the broad spectrum ones (ofloxacin and metronidazole). I just hate taking antibiotics of any kind and have images of my body breeding superbugs .

Oooh bad kayla!!!! Once again, our old dog also ate an entire arm of the sofa in the lounge, while my dad was sitting in the next room. My mom was not impressed! Hope the damage isn't too bad buzzy.

Buzz I have a Canon EOS400D (I think the current model is the 600 or 650 - mine is a few years old). But it's the lenses that make all the difference. I've invested in a nice macro and telephoto lens. The macro in particular takes amazing photos. I love taking pictures of flowers, insects, natural textures, etc. If you want to buy an SLR the big decision is Canon v Nikon, because this will influence the kit you can buy in future as it tends to be fitted for one or the other.

The evening was lovely (although we only made it halfway through Bridesmaids before chatting took over (we did a better job on the mulled wine though)).

critter sounds amazing. I rarely get glammed up these days. I do miss it.

As for charting, i think there are several different "normal" patterns. Most months, mine climbs and then levels out, dropping about a day before AF.

joycep LP seems to be mainly used to help the clinic time EC. It also has some medical value in making it easier for the clinic to control hormone levels as they are basically starting from zero rather than whatever your natural level is. I'm obviously influenced by my own downregging experience, but having researched it, I am seeing little value for the patient in using LP if they are at a decent clinic.

Madness our old retriever was a leg humper. She weighed 7 stone, so when she launched at you,you really needed to brace yourself!

When I had my lap I was supposed to have dissolvable stitches. They never really did. I can remember 18 months after the op, thinking I had some sort of weird stomach blackhead, and investigating it to find that it was a bit of black stitch that had worked its way to the surface. Bleugh.

Morning, this is a hangover lemon trying to drink enough to be hydrated when I get in a boat in an hour :)
Waves and feather shakes