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TTC 10+ months, Part 11

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buzzybee123 · 05/11/2012 19:55

A very friendly and supportive thread for those taking way longer than they had ever expected to make a baby.

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Cosmos1 · 29/11/2012 07:15

Doll, wow out in the field with people yelling at you, the mind boggles. I did see the film private Benjamin some years ago, anywhere close? Grin Very good luck for today.

Critter, yes reading suggestions that just aren't going to happen is never that helpful hey. Chocolate is staying, no matter what Zita says.

GinSoaked · 29/11/2012 08:37

Just a quick on the train post to wish nellie good luck today!

Also heart so pleased all is going well and princess hope your scan is ok - I'm so excited for you!

art hope the good news is starting to sink in :)

Will update properly when I have a mo. I'm generally feeling surprisingly fine, with occasional moments of sadness! My hormones seem to be getting back to normal though, so that's good. Big waves and luffs to all. doll I'll be thinking of you tomoz. Hopefully not peeing in the field.

MuddyWellyNelly · 29/11/2012 10:25

Thanks all. 3 out of 3. Really happy, just waiting to be discharged now Smile

akuabadoll · 29/11/2012 10:29

Brilliant, well done nelly I'm really pleased for you, make sure you get a bit of rest now. X

EuroShagmore · 29/11/2012 10:37

Thanks for all your kind words ladies. The support on here really is amazing. :)

Nelly, I have everything crossed for the Highland Three because you can't today! And I just refreshed and saw that the Highland Three have been liberated. Yay!

Re: red hair, my niece (Mr Euro's brother's child) is so bright orange she practically glows in the dark.... That'll be the Irish genes coming through. Apparently I was strawberry blonde as a small baby before I turned properly blonde, so there is obviously something in the background on my side too. I am sure we are going to have an orange one if it ever happens!

doll I'll be keeping everything crossed for you too! (Walking is going to be very tricky...)

Cosmos does Zita say chocolate is bad??? Silly woman. Everyone knows chocolate it very good indeed. Grin

Art can you remind us of your path to diffage?

akuabadoll · 29/11/2012 10:48

euro according to the redheads in my family you have to be glow in the dark at birth to turn into a real one - I was strawberry too and my mother was told to calm the fuck down. I too turned blonde.

I did my OPK and it's arctic, easier to do than a HPT in that I have them in the flat, I'm used to them and there is a nice amount of interpretation (when they are not arctic). I know it's not definite but I'm convinced. Meh. At least I might be less inclined to spend the rest of the day wondering about my belly ache.

Cosmos1 · 29/11/2012 12:17

Oh Doll I am so sorry. Lets hope its just a duff test, but massive hugs.

akuabadoll · 29/11/2012 12:28

Thanks cosmos I appreciate it. I've just been in bed for an hour trying to sleep as I feel so crappy, headache, belly ache and I had an upset stomach this morning. Two days of street food perhaps, I do wish I had a better excuse.

CritterPants · 29/11/2012 12:53

Doll I am so sorry, I hope you get a nice surprise tomorrow and that the opk was wrong. And so sorry that you feel crap too physically, that is just the pits.

princesschick · 29/11/2012 13:51

Well afternoon all,

I'm not going to gush, but we've had the scan and it's all official. We're due on 10th June, which is my Grandad's birthday (he died 10 years ago). There is a real live baby in there and it was truly amazing - we could see everything from brain to fingers, tummy to toes. I sobbed the whole way through because I couldn't believe it was actually happening after all these years. Mr P was pretty choked but he is very stiff upper lip, but there was definitely a glimmer of emotion there and he was mesmerized by the pictures. I guess it brings it home to see inside.

I'm so sorry that many of you are continuing to have rough or trying times and A+ announcements - I mean that from the bottom of my heart. I feel guilty for telling you my good news, but hopefully it's a little glimmer of hope that it happens for us 10 plussers too. I still consider myself firmly in to 10 + camp even if I'm now officially over the otherside. I believe that it will happen for everyone on here, I really do. I will continue to lurk....and I'm now back on facebook (I ventured back on a few weeks ago) if anyone wants to PM me and be RL friends. Don't worry I'm not posting the scan and shouting LOOK WHAT WE MADE from the roof tops. I don't plan on putting anything on facebook because, well, without being rude it's tacky.

Sending loads of hugs to you all xxxxxx :)

EuroShagmore · 29/11/2012 15:04

princess that must be such a relief. I'm really happy for you.

doll sorry about the arctic stick. No fat lady has sung yet though!

Critter what is next for you re: the work stuff?

I just had acu. On my last notes she had written "poss preg". That was at 9am last monday. By 9pm I definitely wasn't. Sigh. In one way I'm glad-it confirms I wasn't just being menkul thinking something was going on with the last cycle. I guess that means we can get sperm to meet egg and there is no endo or anything blocking that process, but either the embryos are cr@p or my body is rejecting them for some reason. The mystery continues.

MuddyWellyNelly · 29/11/2012 15:25

Euro lots of "normal" people have failed implantation too. I hope so much your body is just gearing up to it.

Princess what a lovely post. I am thrilled for you.

Doll, hold on there. There's still time. Thinking of you x

I am only now on the sofa, but I feel fine. Just light period style pains. The clinic were great today and I loved the sedation. I asked the anaesthetist if he'd come home with me Grin. Will fill in more details later. Embryologist said one of the eggs might be immature but obv we won't know until tomorrow. SA was good so fingers crossed, yet again. I'll know fairly early tomorrow if we have any fertilisation, mrN isn't sure about DET (and I refuse to think about it yet) so we will discuss after the call in the morning. The way I'm looking at it now though, is our chances are 3 times better than a normal month, plus add a multiple for the fact the sperm get put where they need to be. And given my AMH plus the progress 2 weeks ago, well I feel like its almost a level playing field. This is of huge importance for my emotional well being Blush. Right going to put on a Christmas film and snooze Smile

CritterPants · 29/11/2012 15:52

doll hang in there. As euro says, the fat lady has not yet sung.

euro that's really interesting about your acupuncturist and actually quite spooky. It does sound like things are happening. I am so hoping for an ironic pre-IVF Christmas diff for you.

princess what a lovely post. I can't believe you're in the magic second trimester already. How amazing.

nelly you have everything going for you this time. It's amazing how far you've come. The sedation sounds lovely and I'm glad you're taking it easy - I hope the highland three are intimately getting to know MrN's contribution as we speak.

CritterPants · 29/11/2012 15:52

cosmos I was going to say that green juice and dairy milk sounds like a fab combination Grin

rabbitonthemoon · 29/11/2012 15:59

euro it's strange isn't it when the acu says that? I felt kind of pleased and sad at the same time. It's also made me feel very aware of her taking my pulses during the tww. We are in such a similar boat really in terms of when we started trying and being no nearer to finding out what the mystery is. Well, I have had the whole womb lump thing as an odd red herring. What is going on with our wombles?!

nelly go highland eggs go. I do hope the tiara is on whilst you watch Xmas things.

doll I don't trust opks as hpts. See what tomorrow brings. No period means still in with a chance.

princess so glad the scan was affirming and lovely. A very summery due date indeed.

art how are things all settling in your head? Does it feel real? I have met 4 MN people in real life and within just a few months of meeting me 3 of them were diffed. sarlat you next! I will start charging for my services soon Grin

cosmos kudos on the wheatgrass. By god it's foul!

I am home before 4 today how very lovely. I think I'm in the tww but I'm not exactly sure of days. I like this! I'm not even looking at websites of Fertility Doom anymore either.

buzzybee123 · 29/11/2012 16:32

doll I agree, don't trust the opk, my fingers are crossed for you

rabbit snap I am in the tww but don't really know when I ov, still having pains Confused

nelly yay to the highland 3, relax and enjoy yourself, you're two weeks away from a bfp

princess great news about your scan :)

art how are you today

cosmos good to see you here again, wheatgrass

well I still have my migraine :( feeling very sorry for myself, my supid puter is playing up so have to use Barry's big slow thing, Thank goodness tomorrow is Friday Grin

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sarlat · 29/11/2012 19:04

Nelly - that's amazing news. And I know exactly what you mean about meeting certain criteria which helps with your emotional well being. I loved the sedation too Grin. The best bit! Hang on to this feeling of success. You have earned it with your self belief and determination. No one can ever take that away from you.

Princess - so pleased that your scan went well. I really do trust you when you say you that you are thinking of us from the bottom of your heart. It is lovely of you to keep thinking of us.

Doll - sorry for the OPK. But it isn't conclusive and I have everything crossed for tomorrow.

Eur - did you acu person 'sense' you were pregnant od did you discuss your symptoms. I'm sorry that the mystery continues. It all gets so tedious doesn' it.

Cosmos - ooo wheatgrass - what does it do?

Rabbit - glad you are home early - hooray. It is fab to not be focused on every second of the 2ww. I am very impressed with your approach. I guess you are re-training your mind to find new interests and new ways to be happy.

Buzz - sorry for the migraine. Maybe you haven't ov yet? Back on with the DIY project? Grin

Hello to all the other lovely ladies. Art - hope you are well and the good news is settling in?

Poutintrout · 29/11/2012 19:14

doll sorry about the stupid opk. Like euro said the Fat Lady is not yet in the building. Also the whole opk as a preg test is not exactly proven. Still rooting for you.

nelly I'm thinking of your Highland 3 and imagining that you have an anaesthetist hog tied under your couch.
There is red hair on MrP's side of the family though the crappy eyesight requiring bottle bottom glasses worries me more I find it helps to focus on the likes of Damien Lewis when I have a red wobble.

euro I'm glad that you are out of the ditch. I think that sometimes 'the fear' does creep up.

princess Your scan story was so lovely. Really happy that all went well.

buzzy and rabbit I too am having odd ovulation month and aren't at all sure of what is going on. If I were a betting person based on the ovary pain and EWCM pattern I would say that I ovulated on CD8??????? This is very odd seeing as I am usually a CD15+ person.

BTW I really hope that you feel better soon buzzy

gin I'm pleased that you are getting back to normal and feeling okay.

cosmos my mind is boggling at the wheatgrass and whole growing thing?

Oh no I've forgotten everything I wanted to say and I can't flip back to the other page...grrrr. Something about Kate Middleton. I agree that she looks possible pregnant. She's a bit bloated in the face rough looking lately
Pleased to hear that you are feeling happier about things heart....pants, my mind has gone blank.

I got a shock this morning. I got my letter from the hospital telling me that I have reached the top of the IVF waiting list [gulp] I have to telephone to make an appointment to "discuss the treatment". It has rocked me more than I expected and I am a bit panicked TBH and questioning whether I really want a baby - WTF is that all about?

Also we missed out on the lovely house. The landlord opted for the dogless people. Bit gutted seeing as we provided 2 glowing references from current and previous landlord. So now I am bricking it that I might be facing IVF whilst being homeless. This wasn't how it was supposed to be. I have been banging on for months to MrP about how I wanted everything to be stress free while I did the treatment. This couldn't be further from the reality.

Anyways I will get a grip now and send loves to everyone lemons, joycep art sarlat mrsd madness

ArtemisTheHunter · 29/11/2012 20:51

Hello lovely ladies

Doll of course we missed you Grin. I kept wondering how you were getting on. I've never understood the OPK thing either and I am not giving up on you yet. Feeling rotten is rubbish but not necessarily a bad sign and I have everything crossed that the hostages are hanging in there.

Nelly terrific news on the eggs. I hope they're stripping the willow in a petri dish now with Mr Nelly's kilt-wearing swimmers. Fingers crossed for some good news tomorrow morning. On the red hair thing, I had a red-haired grandfather and mine was ginger until I was about three (now I'm sort of dark brown mixed with auburn). Mr A and I were discussing it once and he gave me a panicked look and said "do you mean if we have a kid it might end up ginger?" Actually I would be more concerned about it taking after his family and being a complete lawless nutter but I kept that observation to myself Grin

Princess fabulous news on your scan, an early summer baby, that will be terrific you will be able to avoid being heavily preggo during the scorching hot summer that we will no doubt have. It's so lovely that you think about us and keep checking up on us though I am sure that if I actually get that far I will be doing the same.

Pout what a bugger on losing the lovely house. And scary getting to the top of the IVF list... it is a big decision. I was bounced into it because of timing but it was stressful. And the wondering if you actually really want a baby thing is perfectly normal...

Euro how strange about your acu, especially after Rabbit's acu did the same thing last month. How do they know I wonder? Is it your pulse? I do think acu has helped me during IVF. I was sceptical about it beforehand but I had a few sessions lately where I've really felt my energy levels lift and it has probably helped mentally as well.

Cosmos I've got the baby making bible but I only made it half way through. I self diagnosed as all her types at once which meant i couldn't eat anything except obviously chocolate and i couldn't take the stuff about affirmations etc seriously. I can now pride myself on being the anti Emma Cannon/Zita West. Apart from the acu I have been resolutely non positive (not negative, just taking one day at a time) and I have scoffed huge amounts of birthday chocolate in the last few weeks. Wheatgrass? What's that? Grin

Sar glad you feel able to poke a foot out of the tent. The doctors' attitudes definitely don't help you. You have been through a huge amount and should give yourself credit for how well you cope with it and how much support you give others at the same time. You are a special lady Smile

Gin glad your hormones are normalising and you're feeling mostly OK. Do you have a follow-up appointment any time soon or are you giving yourself time to get back to normal first?

Buzzy (and everyone else) you were all completely right about Mr A, he had been walloped by two big pieces of quite traumatic news and wasn't around to be involved with either so he was just worrying about me and processing what has happened. The counselling was really helpful, he is definitely someone who finds it easier to talk in that kind of setting.

As for me, I feel... well, today i feel like someone who has been hit by a truck at high speed. Physically I am OK but I was very tearful and shaky this morning. I guess it is all catching up with me. The insurance is a nightmare because the truck driver was foreign so they don't yet know if we can recoup costs from his insurer. This means they won't give me a decent hire car, just a nasty plastic roller-skate toy car that I just don't feel safe in, and it took me 6 phone calls this morning to find out where my own car had actually been recovered to because the insurance company call centre people weren't allowed to make calls out! FFS. So the being pregnant thing is very much at the back of my mind. It really hasn't sunk in yet. Maybe after the viability scan it will, or when i actually start to feel different. Currently I just feel like I've got PMT - occasional womble cramps, sore boobs and the need to eat everything in sight Hmm I'm not fighting that though Grin

Rabbit you asked what I'd done differently this month. Well, I just relaxed and it happened... Grin Seriously Pout don't worry about stress during IVF, I was not relaxed in the slightest, i worried every step of the way and I had all manner of work stress going on. Euro I think you asked for the run-down. We have being ttc since spring 2010, so over 2.5 years. MC at 6 weeks March 2011, finally got a fertility referral January 2012. His SA and all my bloods were normal so we are 'unexplained'. 5 cycles of clomid this year didn't result in a pregnancy. That was followed by an HSG, and when that was clear too we went straight into self funded IVF because our advanced ages (him 41, me now 39) meant it really did feel like the last chance saloon. But it seems miracles do happen, though it's very early days yet.

The cat is demanding that I put down the laptop so she can have my knee instead. Thinking of you all this evening. Big waves to Lemon Madness Critter Frannie Heart and anyone else I have missed Smile

ThatWayMadnessLies · 29/11/2012 21:06

Oh pout that's fab news about the ivf list. Crap about the house, though. I've had my moments of thinking that maybe by the time I finally get pregnant I won't actually be ready or that I'll have changed my mind Confused but I think that everyone has those kind of feelings. We've all just had a few years to over think the whole situation while most other people just go "oh f**k what have we done" once they're already pregnant.

nelly that is an excellent result. I agree that you should relax and bask in your success tonight xx

I hope that art and MrA are out celebrating.

critter did I see a vague mention of a rl meet up in 2013? If yes, count me in Smile

doll please don't give up. Surely an opk can't be a definitive test?

euro the acu stuff is very strange. I've never tried it myself but sounds like she knows her stuff if it corresponds with all of your other symptoms. My Pilates teacher was able to tell that my friend was pregnant several days before she could test......

buzzyand rabbit I'll join you on the 2 ww. I think I'm about half way through. Have been all blasé about it recently because I had very little hope. The reality of this being my last 2ww before the dreaded tube removal means that it's taken on a whole new significance and I'm finding myself hoping against hope for an ironic per surgery bfp. That said if I did get pregnant I'd be convinced it was ectopic thanks to dodgy tubes Confused. I am definitely thinking about this way too much!!!!!!!

Hello to sar, princess (well done!!), joy, lemons, mrsd and cosmos. Off to watch nonsense on the telly.

Cosmos1 · 29/11/2012 21:15

Just quick one as am half asleep... But yay to Nelly, double yay to Princess... And Rabbit I'm getting on a train to you, see you in a bit....

Doll will be thinking of you tomorrow. Art, very interesting on the stress thing,

Waves and wheatgrass-induced stinky breath hugs all round

MuddyWellyNelly · 29/11/2012 21:16

Hello lovely 10+ers.

Pout take a deep breath. One thing at a time. Whenever I am stressed about something I just focus on the very next step. So?you are going to an appointment. That is all. And with regard to stress whilst doing IVF, I?ve sort of found it helpful to have other things to focus on! But I can imagine being homeless is pretty worrying. Grrr to the annoying landlord picking the other people. The right thing will come up soon I?m sure. Yes the anaesthetist is asking for a glass of water, should I relent? Grin.

Gin glad you are starting to feel on a more even keel. Hormones really can play havoc can?t they.

Sorry about the migraine buzzy, it?s been going on for a while. Hope you get rid of it soon.

So glad you got a shorter day Rabbit. Yes tiara is on all the time now Wink.

That is very weird about the acu euro but not the first time I?ve heard it. Though perhaps I read it on MN Blush. Like I said upthread though, if it?s happened once it can happen again, and I bet it will be soon.

Wheatgrass cosmos. Well don you! I?ll happily stab myself and go through surgery and all manner of other shit, but I?m not drinking something that tastes so vile. You are being very dedicated!

Oh I hope you get better news in the morning doll. Like others have said, you haven?t used a proper test, so fingers crossed tomorrow gives the right result Smile

Critter I have found myself wondering quite a few times this evening what?s going on in that petri dish ?and praying to a sky pixie I don?t believe in to do the magic?

So the EC story. Nothing like as interesting as Doll?s but I?ll recount it for anyone who?s still on the IVF investigative trail.

Had to be in at 7.30am. With an hours drive that meant getting up at 5.30am to deal with hobbles. Uck. Had a quick shower to wash off the eau de cheval but couldn?t use anything scented, or makeup or anything. It was -5 when we left, eek. Anyway arrived in plenty time. Waited for just a few minutes in main reception, by which point another 3 couples also arrived. For some reason this made me very sad. We were then called down to the operating floor. Showed into our room and a nurse assistant came in and talked me through who I would talk to. Saw the nurse, the consultant who?d do the retrieval, the anaesthetist and the embryologist in turn. All were very very nice and explained everything very clearly. Was talked through in great detail how the ID process worked to make sure things weren?t mixed up. Was second up, so went in about 8.40 I think. Wheeled into the room in my bed. Anaesthetist started on my hand while the nurse did blood pressure monitor etc. They were very careful to keep me covered so although my legs were put in position etc whilst I was awake, the sheet was carefully positioned at all times to preserve my dignity. Whilst I was awake at least Grin. Then the sedative started going in, and I was gone. Immediately, no drifting off. Next thing I know I?ve been asleep for 14 hours and someone is shaking me awake. Or rather I?d been out for 20 minutes but I felt ace! As they mentioned, I was a bit disorientated, had started to wake up and trying to pull my mask off as they were wheeling me back although I don?t really remember this part. Then apparently dozed off for another couple of minutes and was properly woken when the nurse came back and told me they?d got 3 eggs. The nice part was that the doctor came in afterwards to speak to me, told me I?d passed the test with flying colours, got 100%. And that she hoped she never saw me again Grin. Anaesthetist also came in a wee bit later to wish me luck. This was a nice touch. Was brought tea and toast and allowed to get up once I?d had that. First pee had a fair bit of blood which was to be expected (or as the doctor put it, you?ve had a bloody big needle through your vagina Shock) and given a pad but not really had much bleeding since. Offered painkillers but haven?t needed them so far. Embryologist came and explained all the next steps and the various scenarios, but actually sort of wish I didn?t know them all. It?s fuelling my imagination too much. Anyway the only thing that bothered me with the whole process was my hand. Every time a doc or nurse came in I was asking when I could have it taken out. It was quite sore, and initially I moved my hand which made it really hurt, so had to drink tea with left hand. Still a bit tender. So now we are just waiting for the call tomorrow morning. Ugh. So much waiting, and scary phone calls. Oh and I?m not quite done with needles, I have one more ovitrelle shot which I would take post ET apparently. Don?t have those instructions yet.

So assuming we have an embryo or two, it will be Saturday. They won?t leave them longer with so few to choose from! Don?t they know 3 eggs is a flipping miracle Confused.

Sorry for the long post. I know I found Artemis and Doll?s posts helpful. For reassurance, really today was totally fine and I know nothing about what happened in the surgery itself. The conscious sedation is frankly Out Cold, whereas I thought I might be aware of my surroundings. Hence my love of the anaesthetist. Have managed to wonder round a shopping centre, hang about waiting for useless staff in Currys, and muck out my horses. Well and lie on the sofa under a duvet too, but honestly that?s just me milking it.

ThatWayMadnessLies · 29/11/2012 22:13

Someone needs to sleep me for watching stupid 'one born every minute what happened next' (on the Internet no less so can't really claim to have just stumbled across it). I really am a glutton for punishment.....

akuabadoll · 30/11/2012 04:27

Thanks to all the OPK as HPT skeptics. I follow the identical twins one wearing a hat theory which while not definitive it's pretty clear. At the end of the day if it's not to early (they are not they sensitive otherwise they wouldn't work for the job intended) and the test is not a dud (they tend to be a bit shoddy) then they should show. Anyhoooos ...a crap night sleep was had by all, Ken spent most of the night in front of the TV after a work dinner, he often sleeps badly, I heard little Doll coughing in the night (winter pollution kiddy cough) me waking up every five minutes. My 25ml HPT says I'm not pregnant. I'm sad but not very upset, more deflated. I've never have a surprise in TTC of any kind really, it seems IVF is more of the same.

I have a lot on today and my early start means I can get things together before the boys wake up. I told Ken about the OPK yesterday to prepare him, he basically said 'no thanks, I want to think you are pregnant for a bit longer' little love who is snoring like a train, sleeping pills no doubt Sorry not to name check today. Have a good one all, happy Fridays.....x

rabbitonthemoon · 30/11/2012 07:13

doll I'm so so sorry. Sending you the biggest hug I can. We are all here to support. Give yourself time to mend. You are an amazing lady x

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