TTC 10+ months, Part 11

[buzzybee123]

A very friendly and supportive thread for those taking way longer than they had ever expected to make a baby.

Yep, had a re-read, all seems to be true
So so so glad you are safe and preggo.

Thank you ladies. I think I am still in shock, from both the news and the car smash. As other people have said, I don't think it will really sink in for a while yet. I certainly don't feel pregnant and having had an mc before it will probably be a while before i feel secure about it - probably not until a baby is actually born and it's OK. I won't know until the viability scan whether there is one embie still in there or two... TBH i only really wanted one but I'll take the buy one get one free if it's on offer

Mr A's reaction was subdued to say the least. He seems more concerned with telling me how to deal with the insurance company etc . I'm quite glad we've got the counselling appointment tonight as his reaction has taken the shine off the news somewhat!

Hugs to everyone and huge for all your support and good wishes. Do you mind if I carry on lurking for a while? I feel very attached to everyone and I think I will need a gentle weaning from this lovely thread rather than an abrupt departure

art he is probably worried about how you are after the crash and maybe wants to protect you a little as he is probably worried about how things will progress, I can assure you when he see the scans it will be different :)

Art as my celestial twin you have to stay for a bit. Don't worry about MrA. I think I said MrN was being a bit weird the other night as if he'd just realised this might end in pregnancy . He is probably just coming to terms with it and maybe worried after your previous MC. I actually literally cannot begin to imagine how you feel right now.

Doll we will now keep our fingers crossed for you, although I will selfishly keeps my legs uncrossed tomorrow as that would make EC rather tricky .

Euro glad today feels a lighter day.

nelly Can I ask if you are going ahead with the assisted hatching???

Also Rabbit you made me laugh at what did you do differently.

Euro though - not so funny about your parents, glad they ended up not being hit. . Scary stories. I will avoid the motorway tonight.

Too early to say buzzy. Don't even know if I'll get eggs let alone embryos. Except of course I'm being positive . Maybe.

you'll get eggs nelly :)

art I have a memory like a sieve, did you go LP or SP and can I ask what dose and drug did you have for stimming???

Artemis if it helps, Mr P was very, very non plussed by the stripey hob nob and if you remember handed me the sanding block to get on with some DIY after I had shown him . I think because of the MCs he wouldn't show any excitement to get my hopes up let alone his own. However, at 12 + 3, with a clearly emerging bump and a certain scan tomorrow morning, continuing allbeit reduced pukeyness, he is getting much more excited and even talks gingerly to my tummy by putting his head up my v.baggy jumpers. Either that or its a crafty way to get a sneaky peek up my jumper to appreciate the bigger boobies Mr A will get there. Men are just weirdos when it comes to these things. Plus it's only just after 3.5 years sinking in to his head that we might actually be having a real baby that he actually sort of made. Anyway, as someone up thread says, Mr A's probably super worried about you and the crash today. or planning to get down on one knee.... A lot to process! I'm still doing for you. I also think at this point, we should get the 'best bits' of your time on thread. There have been some very witty comments and you introduced the sparkly knobs to the fertility routine - totes inspired. I've thought that with everyone.

I miss you all, but I read very regularly to keep up with the news. In a totally non stalker way though.

Big hugs everyone :)

Nice to see you princess. Good luck for the scan! And Art please do hang around for as long as you want to and pop back to see us from time to time when you feel ready to move on!

Artemis

What a day - the sort you never ever forget! Congratulations on the BFP. What amazing news and thank goodness you got out of the crash ok. Big big hugs. I'm sure Mr A is simply bowled over by the days events. Do you know, I too was intruiged by the cramping as I didn't have that with my IVF cycles. It must have been implantation. 2 for 1 sounds lovely. I look forward to hearing your progression so stay here as long as you like. I would miss you if you didn't . What a day - what a day!!!

Doll - how are you getting on my lovely?

Nelly - I am doing the highland fling for the highland 3.

Teu - hay there - you can come on and off here as much as you like / need to. There are no rules. The morphology does sound a teeny bit low but not a disaster. Often if the overall counts are high this can compensate for slightly low morphology. Buzzy is right, morphology with strict Kruger testing (most labs) needs to be about 3-4% and above to be normal. DH's hover around the 2-6 % range. The consultant is not worried about his SA and his counts are very high. Do try him on the old vitamins and I hear proxeed is supposed to be good. Getting re-tested is a good idea. Good luck honey.

Joy - glad the bleeding has settled.

Rabbit - gosh you are working hard. Hope you have a lazy weekend planned?

Gin - how have you been getting on? Have you and Mr G been doing some nice things?

Euro - I know you said you feel better after the feeling of doom and gloom recently. But I just wanted to say that I'm sorry you felt shit - no matter how tempory. It's not nice and very draining. It is a natural feeling and I find it interesting that it happened so close to your chemical pregnacy. It makes me think it could be hormones readjusting or simply the upset from the emotional rollercoaster. I am in awe about how calm and collected you always are and I don't like to think of you sad - so pleased it has gone away. But do some nice things this month. You deserve it!!!!

Princess - best of luck for the scan - how exciting. Glad to hear the sickness has settled a little.

Hello to Pout, Critter et al.

Thank you for seeing me through the A+ announcement. I was like . But it has been a reminder that I can't control what others are doing. I need to be prepared for these the best I can. I have had a shitty few weeks. Maybe the FET BFN in September upset me more than I realised. Who knows - there isn't always an explanation for why it sometimes hits harder than other times. I had a lovely chat with a colleague about it all today - quite by accident as we were supposed to be doing some boring paperwork work related stuff. Anyhow, weirdly we both forgot to bring the paperwork and I don't know why but I brought up the subject of my new job and all the TTC stuff. I have no idea why I did this. Anyhow, she was great, very reasuring and soothing and gave good advice. It was good to get advice specifically about managing hospital visits / TTC stuff in relation to the field I work in and my career progression. This lady had a miscarriage at 14 weeks with her first pregnancy and then struggled to get pregnant. Now she has 3 children. She could empathise deeply with what I was feeling and we both agreed that when you start TTC, it's like a door that you choose to open that can never then be closed until you get in to that next room. If that makes sense. Anyway, it was a good tension release and I am going to try and believe it can still happen for me. I think at some point soon I need to feedback to my Dr's about how their cautious and medical 'cover their own backsides' approach to my treatment is making me feel, i.e. washed up and without a cat in hells chance. So I have one foot out of the tent - it's a bit chilly though.

WOOHOOOHOOHOOOOOO CONGRATS arte. That is fabulous news not about the car accident obviously Keeping everything crossed for the embie(s) sticking it out till August (is that right?)

Waves to everyone else - life is manic.

Critter - sorry hon, meant to say glad you have some ideas about work. It is so stressful when TTC hinges on finances as well as eveything else.

Hi Buzz and Gin and anyone else I missed.

Art Yippeeeee!!!!!!!!!! I needed some good news today - and joycep I couldn't have said it any better myself. f-ing pregnant indeed . I'm sure MrA is just anxious and the reality will take a while to sink it. I think a lot of this stuff can feel like a bit of an anti climax. All that poking and prodding and disappointment and you're just supposed to believe them when they tell you that it's finally worked. After years of trying the BFP should come with fireworks and a marching band or something equally dramatic. Car smashes are not the right kind of drama at all, though .

Waves to everyone else before heading to exercise class. Will check in again later.

artemis that is amaaaaaaaazing news! So, so pleased for you! Look after yourself
Lots of love to all xxxx

Art, WOO HOO!!!! Talk about the yin and yang of the universe, what a day. So, so pleased for you, keep us posted what happens at the scan etc. Good to chalk up 1 more case of AF type pains = implantation!

Thanks for asked after me sar , nelly yes understood re EC, don't keep anything crossed, could get complicated (you looked lovely in your outfit yesterday by the way). The very best of luck tomorrow, I will be thinking of you.
I haven't been about as I've been in the field. Did you miss me? Mmm 'in the field' is knobberish perhaps. People say that all the while around me knobbers so I ask for context-specific exemption from being consigned to knobville forever. Anyway I'm back at home now and working from the comfort of home tomorrow thank god.
Waves and loves to all and sorry to read of your heavy days euro
Hope the scan is wonderful tomorrow princess

Hi all

doll out in the field, love it! People say that here in DC too, definitely gives some street cred! You sound so calm and together. I am hoping the Beirut two are settling in and we'll get more good news on this thread!

art hope the counselling went well. Men are weird, as others have said. He's probably just processing. I actually don't think MrC will be excited about having an ankle-biter until we actually have a real live one. And to be fair you had a massive accident today - he is probably worried about you. It's a lot to take in. Aw, art, I am just so thrilled for you. It's such wonderful news. Stick around and keep us updated on whether you have a two for one or not, and what the levels are!

sar I'm so glad you had a lovely chat with your colleague and that it helped a little. You've had an incredibly difficult year, 2013 must be better. Onwards and upwards, keep believing. This horribleness is going to end and you will emerge on the other side with your baby. I am sure of it. Keep believing.

nelly I arrive just before Christmas eve and leave just after New Years so may miss you but I will be back in 2013 so we can always try again with mad then? The very best of luck tomorrow for EC, come on the highland three, I'm imagining the eggs with tiny tam o'shanters on and red hair, quaffing wee drams of whiskey and telling rude jokes.

princess yay! you are past the 12 week mark, amazing! I occasionally skulk over to the grads thread to see what you're up to, glad you're feeling a little less sick.

heart so glad the bleeding stopped and that you're nearly at the end of the first trimester.

madness hope your exercise class was fun, I have just managed to polish off almost an entire box of cheddar mini crackers , exercise would be a good idea!

teu glad you are back! Could you try candying the walnuts? If you google it there are youtube videos but you basically fry them with sugar and it makes them yummier, more palatable for MrTeu perhaps?

euro I'm glad you're feeling better but sorry that you were sad in the first place. It sucks and it's ok to have shit days - I do wonder about whether it might be to do with your CP and weirder cycle - hormones swinging all over the shop tends to make me miserable.

gin hope you are doing ok my lovely.

buzzy I agree about poor old Pippa looking a bit older than she ought to. I think it's the tanning. She's still gorgeous though.

Waves to everyone else, sorry to miss so many people out mrsd joy pout beryl and rabbit and others.

Nelly best of luck for tomorrow, hope it all goes brilliantly.

Doll big waves, how are you feeling bout everything? When is test day?

Sar, sorry about the announcement and half in and out of tent. Sometimes opening up to people brings some really unexpected conversations and support hey.

Euro I'm so sorry you've been feeling down. You often seem to me so stoic and level headed on here. Do the think the probable cp last month has hit you quite hard? Would be understandable, with hopes raised and also maybe a physical reaction to the nearly but not quite? It's so hard isn't it, I hope you're ok. On the subject of wheat that is very interesting. Have you decided whether to keep it up? Have you felt any different otherwise? I have read several theories about this:

• that for ceoliac people, the gluten causes an autoimmune response in the gut, which eventually damages the gut, causes inflammation, including in various other parts of the body which varies hugely from person to person, but can include the skin, reproductive parts etc.
• for people who are wheat or gluten sensitive, they just don't digest it well, and therefore reduces effective digestion and uptake of nutrients which could then impact on fertility
• the blood type theory linking wheat to some blood groups not functioning well on it
• Chinese medicine which says an over abundance of wheat can 'dampen' digestion and the whole body, causing a less than ideal functioning of the ebb and flow of our hormones - this theory always reminds me of baking a cake, as in if the oven isn't quite the right temperature / ingredients not quite right mix, then it doesn't quite work, but a little tweaking can help.

So who knows really, but if you're feeling good on it then why not? I think the possible autoimmune theory link is interesting.

I'm currently reading Emma Cannons the baby making bible, anyone else read this? I'm slightly sigh another book, but still very interesting and all very self help style.

Also in the interest of keeping the thread updated, my latest expensive and utterly pointless dietary adventures include last week ordering £20 worth of fresh wheatgrass, which came in a potting tray, and is growing back after i use it?. Have been juicing it with apple juice and lime to take the taste away (followed by whole bar of dairy milk tonight!)

Big waves and hugs to Gin. And also to Pout, Critter, Lemon, MrsD, Princess, Buzzy, Teu, Madness, Heart and anyone else I missed.

Thanks for the good luck ladies . Critter they better not have red hair . They probably will be pickled in whisky though. Autocorrect tried to spell that as whiskey. . Does sound like it will be tricky to meet unfortunately.

Doll it's ok to say you are in the field sometimes. It's not wanky if you are actually, you know, in a field. Wearing muddy wellies and stuff

MrN just brought me a scone with jam and a hot chocolate to bed, as I'm not allowed to eat in the morning . But then, I just asked him if he'd made a wish on Jupiter (have you seen it tonight?!) and he said Nah, don't know what I'd wish for. I think he was joking.

Will update with news of the highland three and there highland fling. Still smiling over Arts news and lovely to see our preggos.

Not even going to begin correcting all those errors. Blame it on needle withdrawal.

Cosmos I have read that book - I did like her tone and the suggestions made sense but I self diagnosed as the type with the least appetizing diet - adzuki beans and no dairy. I was cold and damp I think. I tried, but I am now just resigned to the fact that it's ivf or bust for me. I can't manage the brown diet - i don't have princess's willpower.

Nelly good luck today!

Right, bed, mr c is looking hopeful

nelly good luck again today, please keep the wellies and tiara on throughout, I have read several peer reviewed articles that have indicated that this improves outcome. Go Highland3.

princess let us know after the scan won't you?

Artemis how did the counseling go? You feeling ok this morning after all the craziness? How is MrA?

cosmos my test day is tomorrow The quiet at home is creepy after a couple of days being outside with other people yelling at me all the time. I'm planning to see an arctic OPK this afternoon to take the edge of the negative HPT tomorrow morning