Fantastic 40+ Thread - Part Eight.

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"Come on ovaries! Let's get this party started, yeah?"

No more Dr Who spoilers please, I haven't seen it yet, & not sure when I will as I'm the only fan in our house. MIL, who arrived on 23rd, has said she's stayin til 3rd Jan, which helps with childcare but could prove trying for DH as well as me. I hope everyone had a lovely Christmas. DD was very patient and waited til I got home to open her pressies. If you're back at work today,hope it's not too mad, and hope everyone else continues to enjoy a relaxing break. I'm on my phone again so won't name check, don't know when I'll get chance to post from a computer again. Oh, & I got a BFP, totally shocked as I was convinced AF was on the way, still getting used to the idea, and I'm very aware there's a very long way to go.

Hello all, and welcome to DoctorWhoFan . Had a good if a little stressful Christmas day here, and enjoying a few more days off before work next week. Good luck for the next few days Gum - your fertile time seems to have come around really quickly again!
Sparkly at the bfp - loved the way uou snuck it in at the end of your post . How are you feeling? We need details..
Hi Irish! With what little I know those results sound very good indeed.
Italian, great to hear from you. How are things? I'm dying to know how the adoption is going xx
Love to all xxx

Hahahaha...congratulations sparklysapphire on the BFP. Like Diege said, you snuck that one in there! Here's hoping for a health and uneventful pregnancy for you

Thanks for the welcome Diege.

Can't believe I have to move house on the 4th January...it's going to be....erm....hectic! And don't want to overdo it too much, just in case we got lucky and caught the golden egg! Won't be my luck though, not in a gazillion years.

Oh, and this may be a little TMI, though given this is MNet, I suspect not, but does anyone else find the whole 'let's have sex every other day for a week around ovulation' feckin' exhausting or is it just me? My ladybits have gone on strike for the rest of the month i think...I'm not sure how long I can face doing that for.

I got my LH surge on the evening of CD13 so I know it's between 12-48 hours after that you actually ovulate. I think I did on CD14 - I'm THAT boring and predictable LOL! So based on that, I think I may have to limit the amount of a battering my poor fanjo gets next month if we strike out this month...I'm getting too old for all that funny business LOL. I have a higher sex drive than my DP, but shagging every other day is pushing it even for me

Aargh, I didn't mean to bold "funny business" - buggering bollocks!

Congratulations sparkly wow! A lovely surprise ,how wonderful xx

Congrats sparkly ! xxx
Welcome DrWhoFan

Hi everyone, I have just written all the clinic visits in January on the calendar I got for Christmas. Oh help!

If all goes to plan 2ww will start just before a 10 day stint of looking after DPs Mum which could be a blessing as it is full on enough to distract anyone from anything but until then I shall be going a little crazy and trying to stick to C25K (on week 2 now hopefulgum).

Best wishes to all; I do read everything and think about you all but can't seem to think of very sensible things to say except "aaahh" in various sympathetic or congratualatory tones of voice as the case may be

Happy Christmas - fabulous 40'ers.

Wowsers sparklysapphire congratulations on the (sneaky) bfp news! This is fabulous - congratulations....I'm with Deige we would like details!! I understand your caution but wishing you a healthy, happy and uneventful pregnancy.

Welcome to drwhofan - fanjo?! Ha, I haven't heard of that expression before but feel I may need to adopt into my vocabulary! I too feel that sometimes it is all a bit much (and I think I have quite a high sex drive) but my DP has suddenly taken on a new lease of life (twice last night and then again this morning - I almost limped into work whilst I left him snoozing in bed!). I am CD10 and think that I will be ovulating around CD12, so there will be no funny business until tomorrow as we need to rest the equipment and allow the fellas to re-group!

Isabeller Good luck with your journey in January. We will keep everything crossed for you.

Hopeful your Christmas sounds lovely, sunshine is a distant memory here whilst we peer through the pouring rain - its not even festively cold just damp...

I think you are ahead of me by a couple of days on your cycle - so I am always looking out for your posts. I have been testing with OPK's for a few days now because I felt like I might ovulate early for some reason (unfathomable reasons at that) but at CD10 still negatives. How are you getting on with the fertility monitor - I am thinking I should get one but would be interested in your thoughts?

What are everyone's plans for New Years Eve? I am off to Winter Wonderland in Hyde Park with DP and his DC's then back home for the 12 o'clock chimes for a glass or two of champers once the DC's are tucked up in bed. I am feeling very sentimental and loved up at the moment - not sure if that is because that my Christmas Present came from Tiffanys (this was a major shock) or that he told me that he hopes we have twins. .

xx

Sparkly, you little sneak , if I wasn't reading carefully I might have missed that. Congratulations!!What a wonderful Christmas present. For today You are pregnant!Woohoo. I want details too...Did you do anything in particular to help get this bfp??

Greenlizard - cor, so of you. Twice in one night? Tiffanys!!!Yes, I am but so for you too. How old is you DH? In his early 20's? There's no way my DH could perform like that. Lol.

I'm now on CD 13 and still getting a "High" reading on the monitor. Because it is my first cycle using it I think it is possible to get a few days of "high".Not sure why. Anyway, I think the surge must be coming soon. I did an opk yesterday and it was negative. Perhaps today it will be positive. I'm trying to be casual about it but also really want my bfp soon because I am a bit fed up with thinking about the logistics of it all,and frankly,I think it might be my turnI have waited long enough. I started this damn ttc bizzo back in 2009. I do know though, that if it happens,it will have been worth the wait.

As for the fertility monitor, I like it.But I think it is because I am a bit of a control freak,and having one more gadget to help keep track of fertility makes me feel comfortable. I don't think, in my case it makes a great deal of difference in terms of fertility. I already have a pretty good idea of my cycle,when I'm likely to ovulate and I am happy to do opks to check for the surge. The good thing about the monitor is that it is first morning wee, so if you didn't want to do opks, it would be a good substitute,and it does give you an idea of your fertile days before the LH surge, which apparently is the best time to be having SWI.

I did the first day of week 2 of the couch 2 5k yesterday,Isabeller, blimmin heck, I found the first week relatively easy,but yesterday I was struggling a bit. I hope it isn't as hard tomorrow, but of course,having the challenge will help me improve my fitness,and that is what it is all about.

We are in for a very hot few days in the run up to New year's eve. Forecast is for 27,30,32,33, (celcius). Looks like we'll be going to the beach alot. I am glad I am on holidays, it would be crap teaching on these hot days. We don't have air-conditioning. We are having a little NYE party at our place, we'll have a bbq and watch the fireworks from our deck. It will be nice.

Well done *sparkly" x

Hello to Drwhofan....I'm the "older woman" too lol....19 years between me and OH....and I can definately say its the best relationship I've ever had. Currently 6 weeks pregnant, life is good
Raaa Hopeful I am envious of the hot few days you have forecast...I love the beach and the sun.
Isabeller it sounds like you have a busy few weeks coming up...good luck
We have decided to go for an early scan next Friday...I just need to see a little heartbeat (prays...please please). There is also every chance OH with not be around for anymore so we are taking the chance whilst he is home x

hello all - hope you all had a great xmas? Sparkly many congratulations! What a great xmas prezzie, we seem to be having quite a few bfp's on here, all good news.

I've been ill all over xmas with a really bad cough and cold which has kind of taken the shine off whats been a great xmas, also spent some of yesterday in tears as I started spotting, had to ring the emergency midwife for some advice but she concluded it could have been because I've had such a violent cough but told me to go straight to a&e if it gets any worse worrying now about my next scan as my bump is still practically non existent and I'm 16 weeks on Monday, where on earth are they both hiding??

drwhofan welcome! must admit I didn't watch it over xmas, I've kind of gone off it recently I'm afraid!

well must get back to work, have a great New year everyone - by the way gum I'm well jell of your high temperatures as I sit here listening to the rain pouring down :-(

Tina please try not to worry to much. When I had bleeding with ds2 (on this thread) they concluded that it was because I had ruptured blood vessels with the violent wretching I had been doing with my hyperemesis. Everything is so engorged and full of blood that things like wretching, coughing etc can cause shedding (said my midwife). How are you doing now? My bleeding lasted about 2 days and was bright red/pink and all was well xx
Gum sounds like a very lovely couple of days ahead - you'll have that BBQ in the end eh It's so hard to imagine warm weather here - while 'mild', it hasn't stopped raining here (N.west) for the last 5 days. Off to the cinema today with dds for some respite!
greenlizard I am definitely more about the Tiffanys' gift , though twice a night at the 'right' time would have been tempting too.
Calibee I#, sure all will be well with your scan - we'll have to get hippy back to pilot the snug helicopter.
Isabeller best of luck for your appointment on the 7th x
Sorry if I've not name checked everyone - love to all x

Hello Tina, I hope everything is alright. How scary for you, though bleeding is very common in pregnancy. What Deige said makes complete sense if you have been coughing alot. Let us know how you get on.

Deige, I'm sorry about the 5 days of rain. That would be a bit tedious with little ones. Although it's set to be a warm few days, unlike most of Australia, we do get respite at night when the temperatures fall. In some places, like Perth, it will still be 25 degrees at night, which is just awful. DH,DS3 and I went to the beach this morning. My DH has decided to do the couch to 5k too, which is great, he's carrying too much weight (I want my sexy slim,muscular man back), so he did that this morning. Now I shall have to keep it up,despite my sore thigh muscles, as I couldn't have him reach the milestone (5k) before I do

Calibee, having a scan sounds like a really nice idea. I can't wait to hear all about it. DId you keep taking DHEA while taking clomid?

I still don't have a positive opk. Surely it will happen tomorrow? So, I think we can have a rest day today and I'll be ready for SWI again tomorrow. Don't want to overdo it or my DH will feel pressured.

Just so I can completely cement my reputation as the most mad of all the over forties ttc, I will reveal that I had a psychic reading done yesterday (just for fun) and she said I will have twins, a boy and a girl, and will either find out in February 2013 or they will be due in February 2014. She also said that taking clomid will do the trick (I told her about the clomid, it wasn't something she came up with herself). So there you have it - looks like I'll be pregnant this year,with twins

However, I'm not sure about the clomid. I worry that something could go wrong and then my doctor will tell me off for taking out without her prescribing it. How would I explain that one??? Anyway, there's no hurry. Perhaps I won't need it.

Diege thanks for the name check.

Hopeful just wondering how long you have taken Clomid for or how long you plan to. There can be possible health risks if you take it for a long time, or over the prescribed time. I know the risks are very small but just wanted to mention it. Am hoping all is well with you in your sunny land, my dear.
Sending hugs to all the ladies.
I do hope you are all well and keeping good.
Hugs to Hippy, Hopefulgum, Jolly, Diege, Irishmammybread, Miaalexandersmummy, Angelgeorgie, Twirly BB, sparkleysappire, Somewhere, clickingtock , Lol, Elena, Knickyknocks, Tina, Marythersa, Blackcatdancing, Shandy, somewhere, onemore, movelikejagger, gothinrecovery, tazpat, Mrscupcake, Clicking, Purple and all.

I am about to go on my prep course for adoption next month. I feel very happy about it and that all my fertility journey has come to this now, so feel very positive.

God Bless you all.

Thanks ladies for all your good wishes. I didnt do anythin different to get the bfp, so just lucky I guess. Physically, I feel fine just tender boobs and some cramping. However, DH is devastated by the news, he's adamant he doesnt want another baby. He cried. We've been together 11 years & I've never heard him cry. It was awful. We can't even discuss it properly as MIL is here, so we both sat in the car & sobbed. Needless to say, I'm pretty distraught, he was depressed all through my pregnancy with DD, because of it, &.says he can feel it starting again, & I don't want to put him through, or go through that myself again, as it was pretty miserable. Sorry about the me, me, me rant, I'm on my phone again as it's the only chance I get to post. Love to all. SSx

Oh poor you sparkly - what a really difficult situation for you and your OH. Do you think it might be the shock of it and he might settle into the idea? Just because he was depressed during DD pregnancy doesn't mean it will happen again. I do think men can be terribly in denial about stuff they are actively engaged with (ie. unprotected sex!) and then it comes as a big shock for them when reality strikes. Do you think he could get some help talking to someone about how he feels? I ask even though I know my DP would rather saw his own legs of than share how he feels with a stranger......

Also do you have a good network of friends/family who can support you while it's a bit tough (apart from all of us - goes without saying we are all in your corner!). Sorry it's so tough for you and hope thinks get better.

On a personal note -I got the results back from first lot of tests -fsh, lh etc and my lovely doctor says they are all within the normal range for conception. In particular she says my FSH is good at 6. I have no idea what this means but am going to pick up the full results from the surgery next week and can share them with you wise ones -for your views. I am very pleased and relieved with anything described as normal and "good". Still have my 21 progesterone test to go.

Xx

Tina I bled at 9 weeks and again at 15.5 weeks with DD2 and everything turned out to be fine,I know it's a worry but hopefully everything will be ok. When is your next scan, could you bring it forward for peace of mind?

sparkly your DH's reaction must have been hard for you to take, I hope once the shock wears off he'll find it easier to come to terms with.
Does he suffer from depression anyway and if so has he had any medication? I only ask because my DH has suffered from depression on and off for years and only last year spoke to the GP about it. She put him on medication and it's made a tremendous difference, it made him realize what an impact it was actually having on his life. Depression is caused by a chemical imbalance but I think men particularly feel there's a stigma attached to it or it's a sign of weakness and are reluctant to seek help. It's also very difficult for the person living with a depressed partner, I hope you have some support too. x

greenlizard your New Year's plans sound great and you must be pleased with your results.

gum do twins run in your family? Imagine if you've waited all this time for your baby and get two instead of one!

Diege ,hope all your tribe are fit and well again. I meant to say a few posts back that my DD2 at about 13 mths played with my friend's son who turned out to be in the infectious stage of chicken pox and 10 days later was ill, high temp, all the signs of chicken pox but spots never appeared. We thought that as I was still breastfeeding she might have had some immunity to fight it off at the time so had a muted response to the virus. A few years later chicken pox was going round the nursery and she developed all the classic spots but wasn't actually ill ,so I suppose your little one may still get it again!

CaliBee lovely idea to go with your OH for an early scan,seeing that little heart beat is magical so it will be nice to share that before he heads off again.

Italian you must be pleased the wheels are in motion for the adoption process. Do you know what age range of child you will be offered?

Hello to everone else!

It is so nice to hear from you Italian. Thanks for your thoughts on clomid. I've not taken it at all, it is something I continue to wrangle with - partly because I am not a fan of taking anything that isn't "natural" (though I do understand that natural remedies can be very dangerous if taken incorrectly too), and I worry about it messing up my still normal cycle. However, I feel I am getting close to the end of my ttc journey and don't want to end it without having tried everything so I can rest assured that I've done my best. Of course there's still IVF and donor egg, but those options are definitely not open to me with my reluctant DH.

Sparkly, oh sweetie, I really feel for you. I know how hard that conversation is to have with DH, and how much it hurts to have that reaction from your DH. My DH was not pleased when I got pregnant after our last DS. He suggested an abortion. I was not impressed. It seemed he was getting used to the idea when I miscarried. The hardest part of it all was that he told me he was "relieved" when I miscarried. I am sure you understand how much that hurt me. When I got pregnant after the miscarriage he was much more accepting, but then when I miscarried he told me he didn't feel any differently from the other miscarriage. That was so hard to cope with. It is partly why I didn't tell him about the last pregnancy - I decided to wait til I got past 9 weeks (when I had previously miscarried). I'm not sure if I would have been able to keep it from him that long, but I just wanted to stay positive - didn't want any of his negativity around the pregnancy. My DH said he just doesn't feel a connection to the baby until it is born, and then it all changes, his natural fathering instinct kicks in and he loves the baby deeply.It's just so different from me. I know for my DH the angst was all related to his role as "provider" and also that he is ready for "freedom" from all the tiredness,hard work etc with a new baby. His way of dealing with it once he got passed the shock, was to work out how we would fit everyone into the house, extending it etc. I don't feel any of that is necessary, but it was his way of dealing with it.

I think it is really important that your DH see someone about the depression. Talking to a counsellor, or trying medication may really help.

Come here and vent to us, because we are here to support you. I really do sympathise. I worry how my DH will react if I do actually get pregnant and hang on to it, again.

Tina, how are you feeling - has the spotting stopped?

I hope everyone is feeling rested after the Christmas craziness.

I got a "peak" on my monitor this morning, which is fabulous. The question is,should I wake DH from his sleep in this morning,or wait til tonight? Hmm...I really should be going for a run instead, don't want to run afterwards and risk losing all those sperm

Irish, there's no history of twins in my family that I am aware of. My grandmother had thirteen kids,and no twins in that lot. I would be surprised (actually, I really wouldn't believe it) if I had twins.Perhaps the clomid would assist with that. I would prefer just one, but of course would be overjoyed with two.

Greenlizard, your results are amazing. Your FSH is very low (which is terrific) for someone in their forties. Brilliant.Let us know all the other readings when you find out.

Hopeful if you have not taken it then it should be OK but I'd still talk to a doctor (DISCLAIMER I am not a doctor - although you may remember I did use to refer to myself as Dr Cake!!!).

Irishmammybread thanks for your kind thoughts. IF we are approved to adopt it will be 0-5 because our DD is currently 8 and they advise at least a 2 to 3 year gap in age with the existing child in the family being the older one.

Huge hugs to all (who remember me).

gum - I also saw a tarot reader this year who told me I would have another baby. So, who knows???

sparkly Hope you are feeling ok and your DH is coming round.

Hi to everyone, especially irishmammy, did you say turkey and stuffing toasties?? you are a genius!

Don't seem to be getting a positive on the OPK. Have been setting the alarm on my phone to do it early evening which is a faff. One day (about cd9?) the line was stronger than the others but it hasn't been stronger than the control line so i think i take that as a negative?

Hi all, and welcome to the newbies! I've been lurking in the background, but I just wanted to pop in and say hello again - and share my story of my own little Christmas miracle.

Thank you all so much for your kind thoughts and words - I had a very rough time before Christmas. The bleeding kept going after I had the scan on the 18th, when they saw the empty sac. And to add to it all, my blood tests gave a strange result - within the 48h between the 2 tests, my hCG levels had gone up instead of down. The EPU didn't seem overly worried, apparently the sac can still keep growing in spite of being empty, which can result in increasing hormone levels. But it meant that they insisted I had another scan a week after the first, to check what was going on on (and if any further intervention was needed). Which meant we had to cancel all our travel plans to go to Germany for Christmas Just when I thought it couldn't get any worse.

So we cancelled our flights and arranged to go to DH's parents, where all of his family was going for Christmas Day, all 16 of them . Can't say I was too enthusiastic.

So we went back to the EPU on the morning of the 24th for the scan. The sonographer was lovely and explained it all again before she started. And then - within about 5 seconds after she started scanning - she said 'There it is'. Followed by 'There is the heartbeat'!!!!!

And I kept going 'What? What? What?' It took forever to sink in (tbh, it still hasn't, in a way).

So I am still pregnant Best Christmas present ever! Now back to walking on eggshells, even more than before. But happy and hoping that this bean will keep being a sticky one!

Jbrd....ooohhh how lovely!!! I am so happy for your little miracle!!!! :)