Fantastic 40+ Thread - Part Eight.

[goldengirl71]

"Come on ovaries! Let's get this party started, yeah?"

To top it all...when I posted on another thread this morning I was poster number 666

Oh Golden there's absolutely no need for that . The honey-flavoured caramel I mean Who thinks up these ideas??? I was once on the testing panel for a short-lived choc bar called 'Applause' (apple flavoured, say no more) so do know there are people out there who must think some of these new flavours are an improvement
I think I too would judge away at the mentality of some of your stripper friends - very odd behaviour. Good news for you then on the progesterone front. How are your temps at the moment? Is it a case of looking to next month now d'you think?
Well have discovered the joys of B&M bargains - where has that shop been all my life! That's xmas covered too then!

I know I sound an incorrigible gossip but I can't resist telling you all the rest of the story....the girl who has recently announced she is pregnant and is an ex-porn star is now a fitness trainer and travels the world 'seeing to' golfers (ahem). She is also fucking a man called Andrew 'Chubby' Chandler who is the agent to top golfing stars like McIlroy. Anyhoo, Geri (for that is what I will call her) has been flying out to Miami every couple of months or so to act as 'escort' to this man who is a fat, grizzly, sweaty bastard. He is also a multi-millionaire.

When he found out about her porn star past he demanded she change her name by deed poll so that nobody could categorically link her to her films (which are all over the internet). Her current boyfriend doesn't even know about her lapdancing history and will not stop asking why all her friends keep ringing and asking for 'Geri' when that is not her name! She is leading this huge double life and I can't help but wonder....who's the daddy? Ha! Ha!

Crossed posts, Diege! I laughed out loud at your short-lived chocolate-tasting-panel job! How simply groovy! Apple and chocolate is surely a satanic mix?

This morning's temp looked not dissimilar to the graceful arc Tom Daley might make as he plummets 46 feet from a diving board. Quite beautiful.. but I gave it a 2 out of 10 as I was feeling, quite understandably, churlish.

Your middle-classness amazes me, Diege. Where the hell have you been, like, forever? B&M Bargains is ace. Fry's Peppermint Cream bars are 38p compared to 76p in my local shop

I may aswell now confess that, as a stripper in Liverpool, the only 'star' I ever fucked was the original winner of the first ever Big Brother series (Craig Phillips). He was quite a friendly, well-mannered little midget with a huge willy, but he was too coked up to shag properly. When he did eventually manage to ejaculate it was into my eye and I spent the rest of the night squealing in pain, bathing my eye with water from an egg cup and moaning loudly about my inability to get my contact lenses out. Ha! Ha!

I got the bars, the frys bars!!!! I had a tip-off about them from the childminder and there they were, cheap as chips! I am very pleased with this new spiritual home of mine and am going to try out a few others across the road - Home bargain and some other European sounding one???
Lol at Craig !! OMG! Isn't he now the odd job man on 60 minute makeover??? I will never be able to look at him the same way again, dirty b*stard
Onto serious matters, so sorry for the plummeting temps, what a bummer .

Diege, yes, that's the chap. When he picked me up that night he took me to his newest project in Liverpool which was a string of terraced Georgian houses which he was renovating for some children's charity he and Cherie Blair were involved in! He considered her a 'friend'! Ha! Ha!

Hahaha...Craig Phillips was from my childhood hometown. At least thats where he lived when he won big brother. I remember my Mom saying he came round to measure up for a new patio and got all the calculations wrong!!! Div!!
I have really really missed OH today. :(...soppy mare.
Still waiting for post provera bleed...so timing now out for OH's home leave....gah.
Oh well..I am now off for a complimentary go on a massage chair. Keeping busy...well thats the idea. x

Golden PMSL at your stories!!!

Wow Golden, you have some amazing stories.They certainly brighten up my day

So sorry about the plummeting temperature and all the pregnancy announcements on Facebook.

I have shut down my Facebook account.I just got really sick of the bullshit people spout.And all the "friends" that are really distant cousins whom I really don't give a shit about whether their dog rolled over and juggled knives and is soooo amazing.I am just as guilty of writing inane boring bullshit on there.

I also hate how public Facebook is.My kids have it,and recently a very nasty breakup was played out over Facebook(not my son, his friends).It was awful.They didn't speak to each other face to face, they did it over Facebook, complete with swearing,abuse and history,as well as having friends from either side put in their 2 cents worth. Was so ugly.

Then when I got an email saying that someone in Belgium was trying to hack into my Facebook account I decided I really didn't want it anymore.

Cali, sorry to hear you are missing your DP.Of course you are. It must be so damn hard. Bugger about the provera.I thought for sure it would help get the timing all right. Is there any chance at all that you could do IUI - get your partner's sperm frozen and inseminate when he isn't there? I know it is probably an expensive option, but it might give you more chances.

I just read on Fertility Friend that a woman aged 46 just got her bfp. Lovely, lovely news. There's also a woman there who is pregnant naturally, at 50. Amazing. I know, I know, it doesn't mean it could happen to any 46 year old ttc, but I reckon if I am at least trying there's as good a chance for me.

I have even been looking for a clearblue fertility monitor on ebay. If I can get one cheaply enough, I will buy it. I do like how they work, and not having to worry about the time to pee on the opk etc. Just pee on a stick,first morning wee.

My DS has just woken, so I must dash, love to all

gum, I caved in and ordered a cbfm today. AF due on Friday or, ideally, later.
I had my 21 day test today on day 20, probably a bit late unless this cycle does take longer than previous (fingers crossed). I've got no evidence that I OV'd at all this month. I did not catch a completely positive OPK test and I've got none of the nipple tenderness that I'd had on previous months prior to AF. That did definitely feel like a BF symptom though, but I'd be surprised that just dropping most of the feeds could remove that altogether. Anyway, I'm bracing myself for bad news from the blood test results. It cheers me though if you say the OPK is easier to use than normal OPK's.

golden, good to have you back. very sorry about your temp. I've felt gutted last few months when AF arrived, and I can only imagine how much worse it would be after going through a cycle assisted by consultants.

calibee, can't you go up and 'visit' your man for a couple of hours outside of his holidays? surely he has lunch breaks and evenings off?

tina, very happy to hear your news

Morning ladies.
Gum I so wish I could consider it....sadly a very messy divirce 5 years ago lost me my house and any savings I had. My job, just allows me to scrape by and of course OH has only just started earning. So unless we get a loan then sadly IUI is out of reach. I've not had chance to talk to him yet about any of it :(
remnant good luck with the cbfm. Unfortunately OH is 3.5 hours away. As yet they are not allowed any free time except an hour or so before bed. Guess thats discipline training for you.
I had a big temp drop this morning so hopefully that means Provera has lost its grip and (fake) af is iminent. I can't remember ever wanting it before lol.
Last night I visited a health spa for a go in their massage chair....wow. I had no idea they were so powerful. They also have an area set out which is like a beach with light therapy. I may well be doing that again. Mmmmm mmmm.

I have just waited half an hour in the freezing cold for a bus which never came. I've had to cancel my rather important appointment. I am more than angry. I hate living here with no car. AF is galloping towards me like a crazed bull

That is awful golden and can understand your anger.

That light therapy sounds great calibee You can dream of oh while there.

Well some brown spotting for me today and sore boobs ( neither of which I ever got before last mmc but now seem to indicate arrival of AF) so AF on her way. Very disappointed and want to give ttc a break probably for good as I am finding it too stressful . Don't know how you ladies carry on. Will def be throwing away my opk next month and just try to relax and be happy with my lot.

remnant - let me know how you get on with the cbfm, I am starting to get tempted to buy one, too. Have been quite happy with my cheap OPK sticks from Amazon so far, in combination with FertilityFriend I seem to be able to track ovulation quite accurately. Well, last month anyway, I've only started doing the temperature tracking very recently!

Golden - may I ask why you don't drive? Sounds as if you are living out in the sticks, where a car would be more than handy, what with independence and all. I found that public transport outside of London is useless - when I moved away from the city, first thing I had to do was buy a car! (And then learn to drive on the other side - I grew up in Germany).

CaliBee - rather about your spa visit - I love spa treatments! Unfortunately, I can't afford treating myself as often as I would like anymore, childcare costs are prohibitive for these little luxuries. I'm currently trying to get some reflexology treatments organised, which won't be cheap... Turns out, it's not that easy with my medical history!

'Green' week for me at the moment, ovulation about to happen in the next couple of days, I have everything crossed (again)! I just wish there was a way I could stay relaxed, I feel as if all that pressure I am putting on myself and DH can't be supportive to conception - it's all in my head, I know, but I can't help thinking that if I was happier and more chilled, I'd be able to conceive... Ah well, here's hoping. At least DH doesn't seem to be affected by it, he's more than keen . Wish me luck, ladies!

Sorry AF seems to be on its way Littlepink .I can understand how you feel.
I've only been ttc since May but it is stressful, however I feel while I have such a deep desire for a baby I would regret not continuing while there's still a chance. I think for me because it was suggested I could try taking aspirin after the last miscarriage,I want to at least see if that makes a difference. If I miscarried again on aspirin I might feel differently but who knows. Having said that I may not even conceive again ! I am trying to not obsess because it feels almost disloyal to my kids to be totally preoccupied with having a baby, but it is difficult, I just feel like there's still someone missing from the family. Your attitude of relaxing and being happy with your lot is commendable!
I hope your dd had a great day yesterday,did she get lots of One Direction gifts?
Diege you asked how old my DC are, DS is 19 and in his second year at University, DD1 is 13 and DD2 will be 9 in a few weeks, our family is a bit more spread out than yours, and if I do ever manage to have another we'll have a massive age gap between oldest and youngest(but I think it would work,lot's of babysitters!)
Home Bargains and ALDI are my guilty pleasures, ALDI for continental meats and cheeses and chocolate chip brioche rolls!
Cali wouldn't you think that since your OH is making such a sacrifice and serving his country the NHS should fund some IUI!
It must be so hard being apart from him.
That spa sounds great. My DH suffers from SAD and goes into hibernation mode once the days start going shorter. He has a small therapy light screen to sit in front of at home in the morning but that beach set up sounds much more appealing. I can't see him visiting a spa though.

Good Luck JBrd !

Pink, I feel your pain If these three cycles of Clomid render me childless, still, I shall be rethinking my entire approach to ttc. For instance I shall close my mumsnet account. I think everyone on this thread is super but I cannot help feeling I am doing myself no favours being on here. Normal women ttc do not do this, I'm sure. They don't use OPKs or chart their temperatures pointlessly and scrutinise other women's charts frantically looking for similar temps to their own. They don't spend hour after hour, day after day, wishing their life was different to how it is now. It's all so fucking depressing - and talking about how depressing it all is is...well...even more depressing.

So, Pink, I totally understand your desire to move on. I think it would require a huge shift in mindset and a refusal to lurk on threads etc, but I'm sure there is an answer to this feeling of being on a shitty merry-go-round like this one. It's only been seven months since my miscarriage but I'll tell you this for nothing...I won't be here in another seven months on this same merry-go-round. Something has to change, because I feel I am doing myself and DP a huge injustice by believing that a baby is the only answer to my life's happiness. This journey is nothing but fucking torture and there is only so much putting-one's-dreams-on-ice every single fucking month that one can take.

Sorry for the profanities..it's just the way I am feeling. It's been a toughie today. I've just returned from my re-scheduled appointment and yet another stint in the dentist chair. JBrd, we cannot afford a car. We lost everything we owned during the years of addiction: houses, cars, money, jobs, family - everything. We don't have a pot to piss in. If we had any money at all we would be going for IVF with donor eggs - certainly not a car.

Ooooh! I'm just reading the paper. Do you remember Rachida Dati, the beautiful ex-justice minister for France? She gave birth at 43 and the father was a mystery for yonks? Well..revelations about her love life have emerged in a bitter row about the paternity of her daughter. It seems that, at the time of conception, she was sleeping with eight different men. See? That's the answer to our problems! Tons and tons and tons of semen from tons of different men...

Anyone for dogging?

Hahaha....golden ....but I only want one mans baby.
*jbrd" I'm in the same position. I couldnt afford expensive spa treatments. This one was a free go and the chance to be put forward for a trial 6 month treatment. They ultimately want to get the massage chairs and audio relaxation therapies to be prescribable on the NHS. I certainly came out feeling good.
Awwwpink I feel for you and totally understand how you feel about giving up. I go from day to day jumping from one feeling to the next. Keep your chin up....maybe this is your month.
Irish I couldnt agree with you more...however it seems that as long as one half of the couple doesnt meet the criteria...then sod the other one.
I forgot to tell you all that when the consultant told DP that his semen was completely normal, that she also added (very insensitively I thought) "dont worry you have years and years ahead of you to have children" Stoooopid woman. The more I think about the appointment the more angry I feel.

Apperently DP was worked so hard in his PT session yesterday that he was sick.....hmmmmm. He couldnt wait to tell me this on the phone last night.

CaliBee can't believe how tactless that doctor was! Anyway,it's not the point when your DP only wants one woman's baby!
They must be really pushing them in training. My DS will sometimes train so hard he's sick, especially on a long run,he just throws up and keeps going,nice! What is it with the male species, they just love describing their bodily functions!

Yes you have exactly pinpointed how I feel golden . I ver lurked on threads here before with any of my other pregnancies, nor did I use opk's or even know when I ovulated or had ny idea when that would be. DP was even working away at time of ds conception. We then made a trip abroad requiring 3 vaccinations, malarial tablets every day on the trip and for days after,lots of drink, diarrhoea tablets and smoking grass. I just enjoyed life. Now I am too focused on it and it is not happening. I want o get back to that and will give up mumsnet , keeping a note of period dates and be normal.

I will miss you all here and it I,l be very difficult to stop logging on to catch up but I must do it.

Lots and lots and lots of luck to everyone. If I do manage a BFP I will come back and share it with you all. to all you wonderful,brave ladies x

Shit, Pink, I hope my rant didn't push you over the edge into self-imposed exile from mumsnet (although I won't apologise for voicing what a tedious, heartbreaking carousel this can be that we are on). I'm sure there are women on threads such as this who are relatively sane and have such bursting, fulfilling lives that they can compartmentalise their ttc efforts and retain some semblance of contentment. For a childless woman these threads can be very, very painful and I will be joining you in your exile when my Clomid cycles end. Take much care, my love, and I wish you every success for the future. I think you're being incredibly brave taking some control back. Good for you xx

Hi ladies...have been lurking a while so thought I'd finally pluck up the courage to join you.

After much talk, we have decided that we are going for it. I'm 41 and my dh is 37. I have a 13 year old from a previous relationship. Today is IUD removal day which I'm excited and terrified about in almost equal measure. I saw my GP last month and said we were considering it and her words were 'starting sooner is better'.

We've agreed that we will just see what happens naturally. I can't allow myself to get caught up with ovulation prediction kits and temperature charts et al. My personality is such that it would completely take over my life and I don't want that. That's not to say I'm not supportive of those who do those things, I just know they would be bad for me.

I admit I'm terrified of it all as I had a difficult pregnancy before but I guess I will cross that bridge in due course (hopefully).