TTC Super Ovulation part 3

[Arianrhod]

Hey ladies -

There are a few of us who are ttc after mc's, however there will be ladies out there who are also ttc for the first time or second or third without success. If anyone is on, considering or had success on a super ovulation programme then do join us. How long did it take ? Did you try IUI with it.. ? Did you have PCOS?

Kicking this off and hoping some of you will join....

part 1 here:
//www.mumsnet.com/Talk/conception/1385998-TTC-Super-Ovulation

Part 2 here:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/conception/1475108-TTC-Super-Ovulation-part-2?pg=1

[lemonsherbet]

pebbles sorry do not know anyone who has been to Athens. Have you tried the infertility board part of mums net? The ladies there are usually very good about the different clinics

[Arianrhod]

lemon Very cautious congrats and hope some reassuring symptoms come back!

pebbles Serum is who I did my infections testing through and if I were ever doing IVF I'd definitely think of,going there. Quite a few ladies on Fertility Friends go to Serum, in fact I think there's a whole sub forum devoted to this. Yep, here it is - lots of info and people to ask on here www.fertilityfriends.co.uk/forum/index.php?board=372.0

HTH!

[Arianrhod]

Agate's excellent Serum FAQ very well worth a read www.fertilityfriends.co.uk/forum/index.php?board=372.0

[Arianrhod]

Hmmm Silly iPad didn't copy the link - try again www.fertilityfriends.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=274114.0

[lemonsherbet]

Line was getting stronger-coming up immediately but have started spotting. Was just thinking with miscarriage number 1 how reassured I was by all the stories I was bleeding but it was all OK. This being pregnancy number 5 now know in my case not likely to be.

[Mel3062]

Aw honey so sorry to hear this fingers crossed its just usual pregnancy spotting for you xx

[Arianrhod]

lemon How are you doing today?

pebbles Are you thinking of doing IVF at Serum then? I've heard nothing but good about Serum, the flights are a bit of a pain but I understand they're excellent - and a lot cheaper!

Nothing doing here, with his usual timing Mr Sod and his law has come into effect in that my CBFM tells me I'm going to ovulate tomorrow, but OH is away until Wednesday night (from last Saturday). First natural ovulation in 5 months (due to SO) and he's away. Fantastic timing :(

/waves to everyone, hope you all had good weekends!

[Mel3062]

Aw hun hope you catch it Wednesday it's always the way! X

[FrankelSaysRelax]

Hello all, sorry for not coming back to you sooner & thanks for the replies.

I had my scan today and, after 7 injections, I am borderline over stimulating. I've got a 10mm follicle on my right ovary and a 12mm and 13mm on my left. My Clinic (NHS) will stop the cycle if you out up 4 or more follicles over 10mm.
The nurse spoke to the consultant and they've advised me to cut my dosage in half (from 75ml to 37.5ml) for today and tomorrow before having another scan on Wednesday. She thinks it is likely they will cancel the cycle but the good news is that it won't count towards one of the 3 I get free on the NHS.

Has anyone else experience of putting up too many follicles? Am I a fool to hope that 1 might shrink back down?!

[lemonsherbet]

Am pretty sure am having miscarriage number 5. This one felt like a proper pregnancy not like the chemical pregnancy in April. I am just not sure where I go from here. Sorry this is such a me post.

Ari meant to say remember the sperm can live for 5 days so all may not be lost.

[Mel3062]

Aw lemon I really am praying for you x

[Arianrhod]

lemon I'm so sorry, is it the spotting that makes you think this? I really hope it's not, but you obviously know your body best. Are you taking Pred? Remember it masks pregnancy symptoms for a lot of ladies.

Nice thought about sperm living up to 5 days but you know, given my track record of miracles just not happening, I'm not holding my breath :)

[lemonsherbet]

It is the bleeding and it is just following the pattern of miscarriage 3 and 4. The spotting is gradually getting heavier (TMI I know). I just feel like I have felt in all my previous miscarriages (other than the late one), it just feels it is following the usual course. I really think I can write a book on miscarriages. Think I am going to see Dr G in November-DH also agrees. I suspect I have very high NK cells and something else. I figure Mr S plan works very well for some people but have been with him for over 1 year and feel it is just not working for me.

[Pebbles73]

Thanks so much for the info Ari you are a sweetie. So sorry about the crap timing for you this month, is so crap when that happens. :(

Lemon so sorry to hear you are bleeding, it's all such a nightmare! You never know though lots of people bleed and turns out to be ok.

Frankel I have over stimulated during ivf a couple of times and unfortunately once the follicles are there they won't go back down. Getting the drug dosage right is always a bit of trial and error.

[Mel3062]

Hi ladies,
Well I don't know what my bodies doing I'm
Day 34 today and no af and bfn so guess I've ovulated extremely late this month and stopped dtd too early :( I'd booked my scan next week whilst I'm off so now ill have to cancel it bloody typical that means ill need a day off now :( ARGH!!!!!

[Mel3062]

Also day 10 of steroids so don't know if to stop them or not as could've ovulated last thurs??

[Pebbles73]

It's never simple is it Mel! I don't know what you should do the steroids but try emailing Louise for some advice as she is really helpful.

Well I am on my lady super ov and taking 7.5mg letrezole which us giving me horrible night sweats and restless nights. Havecmy follie scan next Wednesday at 5:15.

Is very quiet in here, hope everyone is ok.

[Arianrhod]

pebbles Letrozole makes me hot at night too, fortunately it's only for a few days. Are you considering IVF (again) if this cycle doesn't do the trick, hoping of course that it does? And if so, thinking of Serum, or your original clinic? (nosy, aren't I .. :) )

mel I'd echo pebbles, I don't know what to advise re the steroids but Louise is definitely the person to ask.

Very quiet around here, maybe people are hibernating early for the winter .. I know I'd like to! :)

[Mel3062]

She said steroids can delay af so good job I stopped them and to test again in a few days xx

[duggs1976]

Ladies some of us from pred thread are meeting tomorrow check out pred thread think 4 of us If u fancy it 12.30 at strada on south bank LJ71, brown stag a new last swlondonnanny and me.

[duggs1976]

lemon how are you doing? are you still going to see dr G ?
Pebbles what about you .. how are you?

AF arrived on Friday for me..loud and clear.
Just started 7.5mg letrozole for my final SO cycle...

Nice meet up yesterday...missed some of you I was totally late as trains and tubes were hideous.. but still what SO cycle are people on now?

[Pebbles73]

Hi all, so sorry I couldn't make it yesterday. Hope you all had a good natter about stuff that you can't talk about with real life friends.

Ari don't think you are nosey at all . I have only ever got pregnant with ivf so unfortunately I think us the only way forward although will speak to Mr S about having done more tests done first although us more expense! Not going back to my original clinic as they don't really deal with immune issues so looking elsewhere. My ideal choice would be ARGC but they are so expensive and have read stories if people spending £10,000 and £15,000 so not sure at the mo. Sthens seems good but they don't publish thier sucsess rates and may sound silly but after embryo transfer don't really want to do anything other than lie on the sofa at home! Will also check how much Mr S charges and get some info which they forgot to give me last time. Can't believe am on last cycle of super ov
already, hope I get lots of follies.

Duggs I wish you luck on this cycle and hope you get lots of follies. Watch out for those night sweats!

Lemon I hope you are doing ok, have been thinking if you.
Any sign of af yet Mel?

[Mel3062]

No af yet day 38 but got a bfn today :( got migraine since yesterday so she should be on her way, bloody hurry up!!!
Good luck to everyone xx

[lemonsherbet]

Hi all, am doing OK. I saw a male GP who had no problems referring me on the NHS to a recurrent miscarriage clinic. Previously when I have seen a different GP they have said no because of the late miscarriage. So am planning on seeing Mr G after that. Since it may save me a bit of money. The appointment even came through really fast-middle of November. I need to rearrange it because I am away that week, but was really impressed. Have always seen the female GP but he was really sympathetic and thought it was important that all the basics were done before I went off to see another specialist!! (Best experience I have ever had with my GP surgery)

Mel am sorry that SO seems to have messed up your cycle this month hope it sorts itself out

Pebbles I know that duggs had ivf in the past although it ended in miscarriage. Thinks she had intralipids prior to embryo transfer. Think that may have been with Mr S so she may be able to give you more details. I have heard CARE mentioned a few times, not sure if they are any good. I have not had IVF-just thinking what has been mentioned in the past.

Duggs do you think you would try IVF again if this cycle does not work? or do you think you would ask Mr S for further cycles of SO. If I am right some of the cycles were when the DNA fragmentation was not diagnosed or the infections so surely they do not count or am I being thick?

Ari I know a little while back you were talking about LIT. At present am reading a book called "coming to term uncovering the truth about miscarriage" it mentions there that the group receiving LIT had a higher miscarriage rate than the placebo group. Although have only just started reading it I am finding it an enjoyable book (if that makes any sense). The authors wife suffered with recurrent miscarriage. It got a lot of personal stories in each section.

Frank hope you are doing OK.

[brownstag]

Hallo all; I am sneaking back onto the superovulation thread just for this cycle. I can't afford any more SO with Mr S at the moment so I'm taking good old-fashioned Clomid from the NHS, which I've had knocking around the cupboard for ages, hoping that the three months of DHEA I've been taking will be enough to counteract its anti-oestrogenic effects. CD 5 today.
I rang my NHS consultant's secretary to ask if it's okay that I'm taking the Clomid alongside DHEA without a follicle tracking scan, as is the practice in this trust. She wasn't there so I left a message. The prospect of multiples might be enough to squeeze out a free scan on the NHS, who knows? Would be very interested to know what's going on in there after the DHEA.

A question for people taking hydroxy: have you had any more infections than usual since being on it for three months? I have had an outer ear infection, then labyrynthitis and now laryngitis and I've never had any of those in my life before. Probably just the time of year though.