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TTC Super Ovulation part 2

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suemays · 17/05/2012 17:45

hey ladies,

There are a few of us who are ttc after mc's, however there will be ladies out there who are also ttc for the first time or second or third without success. If anyone is on, considering or had success on a super ovulation programme then do join us. How long did it take ? Did you try IUI with it.. ? Did you have PCOS?

Kicking this off and hoping some of you will join....

part 1 here:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/conception/1385998-TTC-Super-Ovulation

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suemays · 17/05/2012 17:50

I have tried to message you all so sorry if I have missed anyone out. Now lets try and start this with some good news!

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Pebbles73 · 17/05/2012 18:31

Hey Sue yep we desperately need some good news on here soon!!

suemays · 17/05/2012 20:25

Not long until you test Pebbles! Are you feeling anything yet? I'm not so expecting AF to turn up over the weekend/early next week.

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Abney · 17/05/2012 20:53

Hi all, Just an update from me on the SO thread. A shortened version of what is on the pred thread. I had another SO scan on Monday 2 follies (1 shaded so Dr S says it looks like no egg is inside). No follies on left which is a common theme with me now. I asked about Hydroxy as I said that I could see that quite a lot of people were on it on the 'forum'. Dr S said that Hydroxy was for people who had failed on his pred treatment and I said I have failed 4 times. He then sincerely apologised and wrote me a prescription. Lastly he asked about the timing of my AF's and I said before the last one you could time it to a T (about 27 days) but the last AF was about 21 days. Dr S said that unfortunatley that is what medication does sometimes. Louise also explained that most BFP's happen on SO 4 or 5 which is the same as what everyone else on here has been saying. Good luck to everyone waiting to test.

One more thing if you go to Epsom for the SO scan you can get the SO injection for £20 as they stock it. If you go to Harley St they don't so as Dr S did not give me a prescription the last time I saw him at Epsom he had to write me one at Harley St and the local chemist charged me £55. I asked about the cost of Hydroxy and they said £25 but then I went to Boots and got it for £7 odd. Unfortunately I did not have a chance to shop around for the SO injection.

Pebbles73 · 17/05/2012 21:01

Bugger replied to you Sue but somehow lost the post!! Had some cramping on Sunday but that could be cyclogest as upsets my stomach! Feeling shattered today even though I slept well, unusual for me on pred but probably nothing! God I hate this wait!!!!
Sorry you feel like af ison the way but you never an tell......

Good news about the hydroxy Abney I hope it does the tick for you and good luck this month.

Hope Snoopys other tests this week went ok.

pinkdragon · 17/05/2012 21:56

Interesting Abney. Thanks for the info and good luck this month. I am still wondering and waiting for AF or OV this month. Have taken no Pred, prog or anything as no idea if have ovulated. All my cheapy OPKS are feint. I guess AF will show when she's ready. Did anyone else have a weird cycle first time on Letrozole? I have never experienced anything like this before. Am now day 24

suemays · 18/05/2012 09:22

Got a faint bfp today but am only 10dpo. I wasn't on super ov this month so it's not the hcg shot giving it a false reading. Knowing my luck it will turn into another chemical seeing as I have had two already this year! Just goes to show you that symptom spotting does not work as I didn't feel at all different. Please let this one work!

pink my cycles were all over the place with the steroids so it was hard to tell if it was the letrozole too.

Good luck pebbles I have been feeling really tired too so it's a good sign if you are.

abney don't forget you only need one good egg to fertilise so don't worry too much about the left ovary. At least superov increases your chances.

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Buster76 · 18/05/2012 09:36

whispers congratulations sue Third time lucky!! Smile

Fingers crossed for pebbles too!
Hope your appointment was fruitful duggs

Are you still seeing Mr S pebbles for your steroid treatment? I know you said Oxford dont know about you taking the steroids. Was Mr S happy for you to have IVF somewhere else?

Hello to everyone else!
xx

Havingkittens · 18/05/2012 10:11

Just popping in to mark my place. Fingers firmly crossed for sue and pebbles (shattered sounds good!)

Not much to report here. I'm on a month off TTC whilst waiting for my hysteroscopy. Also waiting for the results of my blood test. Have emailed Cheryl, but don't know whether she will give me the results or whether I have to wait until I next see Mr S, which won't be for a good month or so yet. I really hope I don't have another 33 day cycle again!

I will be on SO 4 next time. I wonder if the accumulative effect still works if you've had to take a month off?

My friend's dad used some hokum, which I don't believe in (numerology) to deduce that I would become pregnant in June. Be funny if it came true. Although becoming pregnant, as we know, is only half the battle. Or perhaps even a third in my case.

Pebbles73 · 18/05/2012 13:24

Oh wow Sue, whispered congrats and everything crossed it sticks Grin. How are you feeling mentally, do you have intralipids?

pink my first cycle of letrezole was also my first on pred and my cycle was a bit weird but not sure which it was down to. Had a short cycle and only lasted a couple if days with lots if spotting. Normally have really bad cramp for two or three days but hardly had any which was nice!

Buster I already had the steroids so didn't go and see Mr S but emailed Louise advising we were going to try ivf again. They were fine and sent me a prescription for the clexane (was £180 for 5 wks worth!!) and gave me instructions. They wanted me to go for an appointment but all the info was on the website so didn't bother.

Wouldn't it be mad if he was right and you did get pregnant in June Kittens Wink
I found they are always reluctant to give results on the phone and make you book an appointment so you can top up Mr S holiday fund/new tyres for his Bentley!

pinkdragon · 18/05/2012 13:52

ha ha pebbles, I just got a bill for £10 for a prescription from Mr S for the first time ever. Same as you, I didn't need an appt just the script. I am not paying it. Seriously, are they just out to make as much money as possible from us!? Fingers crossed for you Sue, am hoping it's going to go well x,

suemays · 18/05/2012 14:20

I am booked in for intrallipids on Monday morning but will do another test before I go. I don't want to waste another £350 if this pregnancy is set to fail. I remember the days when I used to be hopeful but not any more! At least I feel quite relaxed about it all as already expecting it not to work!

Can't believe they are charging for prescriptions, I know they do on super ov if you have a scan elsewhere and then mr s looks at your results.

kittens I am proof that the break and hysteroscopy made me more fertile so you could be preg in June. Like you say though, that's almost the easiest bit for some of us, keeping it is even harder.

I am so tired I could fall asleep! Waiting for dd to finish her ballet class.

pebbles when are you testing? I was going to hold off until tomorrow but thought I could attack the killer cells quicker if I got an early bfp. Plus I could get the intrallipids in quick. Still can't believe I did get a bfp so will prob be testing every day now and will drive myself mad! Did I say earlier I felt relaxed?

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eurochick · 18/05/2012 14:35

Pink my first superov cycle was usually long. I didn't ov until day 20 when it is usually 14-16 for me. When he upped the dose it brought ov forward to 12/13 so it seemed to be a dosage issue for me.

Buster Mr S had no issue at all working alongside my NHS IVF. He just gave me a copy of the protocol and the prescriptions.

Havingkittens · 18/05/2012 14:53

I'm not paying £150 for a consultation for him to tell me my test results! I've paid £150 for the bloody results so I don't need a total of £300 bill to tell me if my egg supply has dried up. That's just insult to injury! I guess I'll just have to wait until my next Follicle tracking scan next cycle to find out the results. I mean, short of recommending IVF (perhaps with donor eggs if mine are a lost cause?), what else is he going to do in the meantime that will make it necessary to pay to see him before then? I'm going to be on Gonal F and Tamoxifen next cycle anyway. So he's already got the "big guns" out as far as I can tell!

I didn't know he charged £10 for a prescription if you don't go and see him. I've not been charged before for them faxing prescriptions to the pharmacy or Healthcare at Home. I know he charges to analyse and advise on follicle tracking scans done elsewhere which does make me wonder if it's not worth those living far away from him having their SO treatment elsewhere and just continuing the Immune treatment with him. I don't suppose he'd be thrilled with that though.

buzzybee123 · 18/05/2012 18:40

sue whispering congrats

kittens can't you have the blood tests on the NHS, Dr S told which ones he wanted and I asked my GP for the form

duggs1976 · 18/05/2012 19:05

sue you fertile rabbit you! Let's hope this fekkin sticks or else you'd better be off onto you next mission. I sincerely hope it does but if not at least u know your eggs and DH sperm doing to journey.

duggs1976 · 18/05/2012 19:26

Sorry sue last post on train ! At least u r v v fertile and pred doesnt help u! Don't think u even need SO is just dr s holiday fund top up !

suemays · 18/05/2012 21:08

duggs it's not much use being fertile if I can't hold it! I feel like nature is mocking me by taunting me with getting preg fast and then taking it away each time. I could still have bad eggs but a lot of them. Time will tell! Still not at all positive! I only needed SO when the preds messed up my ovulation so I am glad I have snuck a bfp in before the steroids took full effect again. I have decided to double up on vitd3 and the hydroxy seeing as some of the other ladies have been told they can do this. The hydroxy does say on the info take 1or 2 a day but I will check on Monday if/when I go to nlc.

kittens I had a lot of blood tests free on the nhs. I agree you shouldn't have to pay for your test results. Why don't you call Louise and ask her if she can tell you over the phone?

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duggs1976 · 18/05/2012 21:35

If you do double hydroxy and vit d will you still take pred from ov? Anyone watch piers Morgan and lulu life stories ? When she talked about her miscarriage?

Arianrhod · 19/05/2012 09:06

Aarrgghh Morning ladies .. 12 dpo and I just got a faint BFP on a FRER. I don't know what to do - I feel like sue, I just think because it's faint it's going to turn out to be another chemical. Second cycle of no Pred. I don't know whether to take te Pred and book intralipids for Mon if poss or just wait a few days and see what happens. sue how are you doing?

Arianrhod · 19/05/2012 09:08

I should just say, the pregnancies that have turned out as 'real' although I then miscarried, I always got a really strong BFP on 12dpo. The ones that turned out to be chemicals I only got a faint at 12dpo. :(

duggs1976 · 19/05/2012 09:13

Are you not on pred ari? I would start to take some now. Fingers crossed and book intrallipids as u have to expect it to work. X

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Arianrhod · 19/05/2012 09:25

Nope I stopped taking it 2 cycles ago as I'm certain it was stopping me getting pregnant (and destroying my AFs as well). Spoken with OH an he thinks we should do nothing till 14dpo. If I get a stronger positive then I'll start the Pred (I am on hydroxy and DHEA is a steroid too, although a different type) and book intralipids. I just don't know - the steroids have such a bad effect on me, I don't want to take them unless I have to.

duggs1976 · 19/05/2012 10:47

I think these 2 BFP's Sue and Ari are pretty strong evidence how much PRED can F?**k up our cycles... take another hydroxy x

Arianrhod · 19/05/2012 10:59

Mmm I was thinking the exact same thing. Trouble is I don't think Mr S will believe there's anything in it - I expect him to say it's coincidence. Another hydroxy? Good idea! :)

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