TTC Super Ovulation part 3

[Arianrhod]

Hey ladies -

There are a few of us who are ttc after mc's, however there will be ladies out there who are also ttc for the first time or second or third without success. If anyone is on, considering or had success on a super ovulation programme then do join us. How long did it take ? Did you try IUI with it.. ? Did you have PCOS?

Kicking this off and hoping some of you will join....

part 1 here:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/conception/1385998-TTC-Super-Ovulation

Part 2 here:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/conception/1475108-TTC-Super-Ovulation-part-2?pg=1

belly Echoing sue's comment on the pred thread, acupuncture triggered one of my miscarriages for me, that was hanging on and didn't seem to be happening naturally. I was cramping by the end of the evening I had it done (I had had no cramps at all prior to the acupuncture) and full-on bleeding the next morning. Just thought if you don't want to wait, it might help?

Thanks ladies, tested again this morning and is feinter than yesterday but wider. Yesterday's is very thin but darker so am thinking could still just be from the ovitrelle or an evaporation line. Oh the mentalling!

I'm with you pebbles- I did a test last night which was stronger. This morning it was about the same. Just going to keep testing with the IC and keeps fingers crossed.
Good luck to you but it does sound promising, it's do hard to feel excited as its all fraught with worry. Guess only time will tell x

I maintain that HPTs are truly the work of the devil!!! Drive you insane, they will .. :(

Still crossing fingers for you both!

Thanks Ari! Hope things are going ok with you?

Wishing you loads of luck Holl, your sounds very promising. Well when I just went to the toilet there was light pink discharge (sorry for the tmi!) so think af is on its way and the lined must be from the ovitrelle. That's shady you get for testing early, I should know better by now!

Hope everyone ok and looking forward to the weekend, I am off to see Breaking Dawn tonight do should hopefully take my mind off things.

Oh bldy hell pebbles, that evil witch should've buggered off at Hallowe'en, didn't she get the message? I hope it's not, but if it is, on to TNF-alpha testing? Maybe that holds the answer? I forget, did you get yours and DH's DQa tested? Just wondered if that might be a factor.

Me ... nothing doing here right now, waiting for follie scan with Mr S on Monday in Harley St, at CD13 it's the latest I've been in my cycle. Have to try to pin OH down for some SWI this weekend I guess (oh shame on me for the lack of enthusiasm, how rubbish am I?!). I'm curious to see whether not taking agnus castus this cycle will have had any effect on my follies, given that it's apparently supposed to block the effect of things like Letrozole and Gonal-f .. whoops ... . If my follies are exactly the same as always I'll know that's yet another old wives tale, and will start taking it again!

Good luck Ari and let us know how you get on. Hope it makes a difference without the agnus castus.

Still feeling positive for you pebbles and holldoll. Don't want to add to the mentalling but I had light pink dc and so it could be implantation bleeding. Test again tomorrow is the best bet.

Thanks for tip re acupuncture Ari. I went yesterday and for reflexology today so hopefully I won't have to wait too long although part of me doesn't want it to end as it will probably be the last time I have a baby inside me - does that sound really deranged? Best of luck for Monday. Hope you have some big juicy follies. X

pebbles and holldoll another person keeping their fingers crossed for you. We could do with some luck on the board and I am feeling we are due some BFP.

BellyD hope everything gets a move on for you (I mean that in the nicest possible way). But I do understand what you mean about wanting to stay pregnant.

Ari our supplement trailblazer will be interesting to find out the effect of agnus catus

Oh pebbles, fingers crossed it could be implantation. I'm worried as I had this last month where had faint positives but got AF. It was either the ovitrelle or a chemical.
I hope tomorrow brings some good news and its not AF.
Keeping everything crossed. Ari I hope follies are looking hot, I know the feeling regarding planning the SWI. Luckily my partner is generally up for it but I must say this has taken all the spontaneity out the event!
Hope you all have good wk ends, going off to mental at my mums for a few days!!

Good luck ladies!!!! X

Good luck with all those possible BFPs everyone, and good luck Ari! Hopefully implantation Pebbles. Those thin but darker lines are usually where you haven't had the test exactly flat so it collects at the bottom. So the lighter but wider isn't necesarily fainter than the previous day.
I took agnus castus for a year or two in total, first for about 9 months after I came off the pill years ago before I had DS, and then again after coming off the pill 2 years ago. Nothing dramatic to report though my cycles did get gradually more regular. I've never taken it with any treatment though.

Hope testing goes ok today ladies! A quick Q for a v good friend of mine. She is 45 has a DS already 5 yrs old, been diagnosed with high TNF Alpha and recommended humira before her IVF round at ARGC. Question is humira is for IVF patients not patients trying to conceive naturally right? Is that because once u have injection u shouldn't get pregnant because they don't know affect of humira on fetus? Waiting 6 mths for her @ 45 is a long time - personally I'd have the injections- shag like mad and have IVF as soon as poss but wanted to get some input from u folk?

Mr s said for me to have humira if I test positive for alpha and I'm trying using just gonal f? Then if that fails its then onto ivf after that? X

Have you tested again Holl? Fingers crossed for you? I haven't bothered as pretty sure this will be af although it seems to be dragging itself out. Have gone from pink spotting to watery brown now but still not full af yet. Just for info I read on a forum somewhere that the cheap Sainsburys ones are notorious for evap lines so make sure you avoid them!!
Not sure if I should carry on with steroids until I get proper af?

I don't know that much about it but generally what I have seen is that humira is normally to help ivf patients. Mr S did say to me tough that a couple of ladies he treated with humira got pregnant naturally while waiting for their ivf cycle. I am I pretty sure you have to wait to try as they then do another blood test to see if the humira worked.

I am going to be taking a break now as if af shows up properly we will be away to Thailand for Xmas and don't want to be worrying about being pregnant or not. Will get the tnf alpha test done and see what that brings up then on to ivf after Xmas. I have to say though that I really am feeling like I will never be pregnant again..,

Ari couldn't agree more about the hpt's!!

pebbles big hugs .. I feel exactly the same way, that I'll never be properly pregnant again. Feels like my third miscarriage, before I saw Mr S, where the baby got to 9 weeks, was my last real chance and that my eggs are just too damn old now.

duggs Hopefully choccy will be along shortly to answer but remember she had humira and she's not doing IVF .. I understood it to be ok for natural TTC as well? I'm not sure, but that was what I thought?

/waves to everyone, feeling rather meh about it all again today.

Big hugs back to you Ari, it's hard trying to stay positive all the time isn't it? I think sometimes you just have to give into it a bit, feel a bit sorry for yourself/have a good cry and then move on. Well be looking to see how you get on Monday, hopefully you will have a good result making you feel a bit more positive and ready to go again.

You called?! ;)

Right. In no particular order:

• humira stays in your system for a few months, it's not a permanent fix, so I wouldn't wait to ttc/undergo IVF afterwards, subject to other meds or issues that require delay or lead in period.
• there's no research about safety of humira with pregnancy but it's used commonly as I understand it and most importantly, I trust that I wouldn't have been given something and told to crack on ttc if it wasn't safe to do so.
• you can't be on any immuno meds when you have the TNF alpha test, I believe, as they'd potentially give skewed results. I was off everything when I had my TNF alpha tested so that was fine, but I don't know if you have to stop Pred or Hydroxy and if so for how long before testing if you aren't on a break when you get tested.
• Duggs bear in mind that I'm on Hydroxy so had a "natural" delay/ lead in period of six weeks after getting TNF alpha results and before starting to ttc while the Hydroxy built up again.

Hope this helps!

Good luck to the testers... I feel like a bit of an interloper here, but am lurking and thinking of you all :)

Ok thanks ladies, have passed into her! How r u finding hydroxy? R u on hydroxy alone - no more pred? X

Thanks for all the good luck messages.
Pebbles - yes did test and it seems to be getter a bit darker but I'm only day 25 of a 26-28 day cycle. Just trying to keep busy and not stress which is soooo hard.
It does sound more implantation than AF?? I've been having loads of cramps too. I can def see why you are taking a break but I'm keeping fingers crossed for you that you won't need too.

Thanks again to everyone for support and hope having a good wk end x

Meant to day that using superdrug as seem
Better than FRER, and IC as these are cheaper for mentalling.
I agree Ari too it's do hard to keep positive. There is no excitement anymore, no naivety to it not like when I first got pregnant and just rolled with it as knew no better.
I don't know anything about humira so can't offer any experience.

Sorry for double post but couldn't scroll back up x x

Duggs, I am certainly assuming that Humira is for patients trying naturally too or else why would Mr S be offering this test now?; not many of us are having IVF.
Had what I'm pretty sure is an evaporation line this morning, 9dpo, but took 10mg pred just in case.
Ari, what dose of agnus castus are you taking? At the point when I stopped taking mine (this time last year) it was becoming increasingly difficult to get a decent strength because of new EU laws about herbal medicines. I took 1000mg.

Duggs, also meant to say, do you think your friend mistook waiting 6 weeks for 6 months?, having read what Choccypud said.

Hey guys - hope u testers are doing ok this morning? I think as she is new to all this she is nervous taking a drug that hasn't been "officially" marked as safe for pregnancy - but as we know with all our drugs plenty of people have conceived after taking humira whilst waiting for IVF so reckon she should have injection and try to conceive naturally as her chances without it are minimal. Thanks ladies. .