TTC for 10+ months, part 10

[princesschick]

A very friendly and supportive thread for those taking way longer than they had ever expected to make a baby.

Heart - amazing news! Congrats congrats and may everything go smoothly from now on. Can you remind me how long you have been trying?

Mrsd - sorry about the second announcements. I have ignored several emails recently from old friends who just asked how am I in the email as I know they will be telling me their second is on the way. I don't want my chirpiness of late to be tested so am living in a bubble.

And for me i think the second announcement is more that horrible reminder that I have totally and utterly failed at this... It kin of reminds me of the ones who didn't bother to revise for exams and I would work my socks off yet get a lower grade than those who didn't work. Putting in the work yet not coming out on top. Irksome.

Ah Heart fab news! Congratulations :) Come join me and Eleth in the 12 ww tent! I know how you feel about the MC business. But we have to have a little hope and faith otherwise this business is utterly futile. I got a phone call about my scan today, having been referred by the GP and it's booked in for 29/11. I really hope that I get to it and that there's a live seamonkey at the womb show. Terrifying doesn't even come close.

Rabbit I hope that your spotting is going to be something else. Will you eat a hob nob over the weekend? Hope you have a nice relaxing weekend planned after your hectic and difficult week.

Buzzy Great news about DHs job! FX that he aces it. Hope Kayla is ok and glad that you got your Create appointment sorted. All this shit comes at once doesn't it?

Joy I hope that your job is safe. So stressful. If everything works out, I'm being moved to a different position in the company as my present role really does rely on me being here every day to deal with client's. I would be a bit sad, as the role has been my 'baby' and I've developed this little piece of the business over the last year but it's always good to have a change. And it's good that I can be accommodated rather than just kicked out for breeding as I so often saw happen at my old company (yes, it may be illegal, but it sure did happen a lot)

Sar sorry to hear about the anxiety dreams. Hope that you are sleeping better. Poor you and your rash. Even though it's nothing terrible that's not nice is it. Do you have a lovely weekend planned?

MrsD Bums to announcements from non-thread people (I hope I am excluded from the shitfest of bummers that is announcements from preggos) I hate those people that can plan their children. What a strange thing to be able to do though. Babies are miracles not carefully planned events. I was not a planned baby, in fact I caused great upheaval and all sorts of arguments, I could have been viewed as a great catastrophe by many but I was created by two people in love, who didn't expect to get a baby at 19 and 20 respectively, whilst at uni, but did and made the best of it and now here I am. I would never want to 'plan' a baby in the way that your friend has done. How unromantic and cold. Long term TTCers are almost lucky in that we never expect it and if it does turn up it's a wonderful surprise (IVF, IUI, EOD routine... etc etc) and cherished more than a "we wanted a xx month baby" "I wanted more time off work" FGS a baby is not a life excuse! and rant over. I am mega hormonal today. Excuse me.

Teu really sorry about yet more announcements. How crappola. I hope your friend is ok. Bringing children into the world is fragile and still seems an impossible task to me. For example, I know that if I lose this one, it will take about a year to get to the next one and there will be so much heartache and soul searching inbetween. I feel like I'm walking a tightrope over a big drop at the moment, it could go either way and it's really just sheer luck if I get to the other side. Glad to hear your hormones are all a-okay. That must be a small bit re-assuring?

Lemon thank you for the cake. Much appreciated :) Hope you are well and have a lovely weekend planned with Mr L. Do you have any more breaks planned?

Rum I've got my fingers crossed for you.

Artemis I hope that your shooting up goes ok. I'm thinking about you. This could be the one you know? There is no reason why it shouldn't work for you. Big hug and hand hold.

Gin ditto to you. I am thinking of you loads and reckon that this could be your time. I hope so anyway.

Wow there are so many of us on here now. I'm sorry for still hanging around. I've dipped my toe into other threads, but there isn't one that makes me feel at home like this one and you are all way more than just people to bitch about TTC too. I don't like playing with the other MNers. Whispers they are all a little bit self absorbed and no-where near as funny or kind or wonderful as you lot Big sloppy snogs all-round. Babies are catching don't you know.

Well. It's scary weekend for me. I miscarried on the 13th and the 14th. I so hope that I can at least get through the weekend and next week. I have to take this tiny step at a time. We're going out for burgers with onion relish tonight. I'm not supposed to but it's going to be a non-booze, non-brown diet treat. I may even have cheese in said burger. Naughty! Mr Princess and I have been together for 6 years tomorrow and got engaged 3 years ago. That was just a few months after I had the first MC. I can't believe how quickly time flies. 6 years ago, slightly slutty, malborough smoking, vodka slinging, blond 24-year-old in a grimy, dank, rough Brighton night club (that she hated) with a funk band met very cool music biz, best looking man she'd ever seen dancing on his own with little roll ups and a bottle of beer watching said band. Slightly slutty girl drunkenly approached said man and danced her bum on his crotch in bad, drunken way that didn't illicit any kind of response so wandered back to friends, who decided to take matters into their own drunken hands and went over to talk to man. Slightly slutty blond was then beckoned over, shook hands with man and told him about books she was reading. They went to the bar, he had no money and asked to 'pool resources' and then they talked and talked and talked. A strange man told them that they would get married. Girl sent man to cash point to get money despite have 50 quid in her purse, because she wasn't about to buy all of this mans beers. He came back and tickled a spanish man with a feather duster. They took the spanish mans last cigarette because they had left theirs downstairs on the bar because they had been too engrossed in conversation snogging . Sexy man invitied his sorry ass into girls flat for coffee (I kid you not) and got thrown out at 8am because girls dad was arriving soon. Girl got angry call from mum because angry dad had been waiting on the door step for 2 hours. Someone had fallen asleep because they had been up all night talking yes talking Anyway, I won't tell you the whole story. But yes, I did dig his telephone number out of a rubbish bin, 4 days later. 6 years later, not at all slutty, VERY sensible, 30-year-old has turned very cool man into a bit more sensible man (who now has a real job and earns money so that less pooling of resources happens) and has cooerced him (eternal bachelor...as she was told 6 years ago) into not only marrying her but putting another sea monkey in her. They hope that it works. The end. Oh and we're celebrating with burgers and onion relish in a naice pub in Brighton. Did I say that already.

I am very scared. I think you are all great. Have nice weekends all of you. :)

heart congrats :-)

mrsd I now worry about second announcements

rabbit it sounds promising, not trying to add to your mentalling perhaps you should give me a fish slap :)

princess sorry you are still feeling scared but its totally natural, Mr B doesn't have a job just interviews at the moment

rum your ovaries haven't given up they are just being lazy at the moment

teu its hard when you just find out that they given birth!! at least pregnancy announcements prepares you for it, sorry about your friend and her miscarriages, at the panda story, I am starting to think I am one too, it is all shit isn't it. Kayla has made a big difference to me as she might be the closest thing to a baby that I'll ever have.

euro sorry I won't get to meet you tomorrow

joyce sorry things are hair raising at work, the uncertainty of work never helps, fingers crossed for your miracle and 32 isn't old my dear :)

well I heard crashing and banging in the kitchen this morning, I found Kayla had knocked her treat box onto the floor and had managed to get the top off it and was scoffing her little furry face, I've also had a tiny bit of pink spotting so praying for AF over the weekend

waves to everyone

Mrsden, 31. Dh 32. Ttc for 27 months. Dh has very low count and poor morphology. First gynae said I have pcos but new one doesn't think I do. However, I'm pretty sure I don't ovulate every month. Now we're all ready for ivf, we're going to start in december.

euro, 36, the bloke is 37. TTC properly for 24 cycles with a casual approach to contraception for a long while before that. We are "unexplained" although I did have high NK cells when tested last year. Had 3xsuperovulation cycles, 2xIUI and 1xvery failed IVF cycle (stopped halfway through because I couldn't tolerate the drugs). Now back to au naturel ttc with some acu. Contemplating mild/natural IVF in early 2013.

princesschick 30, DH 34. TTC actively for 24 months over 3.5 year period, BFP Oct '12. Previously unexplained, bobbly right ovary, borderline progesterone @ 7DPO test (30.2), 2 MCs at 6wks (June '09 and May '11). Have been embracing the brown diet, woo and life coaching to 'chill out'. Now have my FX for Sea Monkey III.

critter 32, DH 33. TTC for 18 months, no ovulation at all (apart from a single clomid-and-hcg-trigger-induced one this summer). PCOS and post-pill amenorrhea. Six cycles of clomid, one cycle of injectibles cancelled because of overstimming and risk of octomom-style multiples. DH all fine. Moving onto IVF this winter.

MissMedusa 33, DH 39. TTC for 14 months. Me: dermoid tumour on ovary removed May '12. Him: asthenoteratospermia (low motility/morphology) but most recent SA came back normal after a course of Tamoxifen, Wellman tablets and healthy living. 1 BFP which ended in MC Sept. '12. We have decided to continue trying naturally for at least the next 6 months.

Eletheomel, me 40, DH 35, TTC No2 for 21 months (took 3 years of ttc to get No1) unexplained subfertility, we're just a lot slower than most other people. I've had one failed IVF before No 1 arrived, and since ttc No2, I've had one miscarriage at 10 weeks (last May) and maybe 1 chemical pg since then (until current BFP - here's hoping it goes the course - not much time left on my biological clock!)

Freedom I'm 34, dh 39. TTC #1 - too long. yesterday I went to the clinic to see if I've managed to grow an egg this month. I feel like a less-than-golden goose. Nothing yet so I got sent home to take more drugs and try and coax this egg into existence so we can go for IUI mark II.

Artemis me 38, DP 41, ttc too bloody long about 30 months with 1 mc at 6 weeks March 2011. All tests fine so we are technically unexplained. 5 months of clomid did nothing so I am now reluctantly and nervously starting self-funded IVF. On the waiting list for an NHS round next year if this one doesn't work

Sarlat, me 32, DH 48. TTC 30 months. BFP after first month of TTC. Ended in mc at 5.5 weeks. Nothing since. DH boderline / normal SA. In Jan 2012, discovered partially bloked and possibly swollen fallopian tubes at HSG - likely caused by mc or endo. No symptoms of either. May 2012, IVF resulting in BFN and FET natural cycle Sept 2012, BFN. Waiting to see if we go ahead with another FET.

buzzy 39 Mr B 38, TTC 18 months, BFP after first month then miscarried @ 6 weeks, again miscarried @ 10 weeks. Nothing for 13 months, Diagnosed with high NK cells, DH not the best SA low motility/morphology, 5 x Super Ovulation 1 x IUI, looking into IVF for the beginning of 2013. Tried woo, on lots of meds

rum 31, OH 30, TTC 27 months/33 cycles, 2 BFPs with early losses in that time, nowt since Feb 2011. Unexplained, theoretically perfect physical specimens both (on testing so far). Awaiting HSG, about a year to wait for NHS IVF, having much woo and carrying on shagging in meantime.

lemon, both 33, TTC forever (27/28 months), totally unexplained, 1 MC Sept 2012 after SO+IUI, patiently waiting for The Return of The Cycle or actually mentalling about natural diffage on the cycle after MC, yeah right SO+IUI to start again after two post-MC cycles, which won't be before December.

teu, 36, DH 38, TTC 17 months, only just starting investigations. Day 3 & 21 bloods 'normal', waiting on DHs SA to complete public system referral.
Top ↑Mrsden, 31. Dh 32. Ttc for 27 months. Dh has very low count and poor morphology. First gynae said I have pcos but new one doesn't think I do. However, I'm pretty sure I don't ovulate every month. Now we're all ready for ivf, we're going to start in december.

euro, 36, the bloke is 37. TTC properly for 24 cycles with a casual approach to contraception for a long while before that. We are "unexplained" although I did have high NK cells when tested last year. Had 3xsuperovulation cycles, 2xIUI and 1xvery failed IVF cycle (stopped halfway through because I couldn't tolerate the drugs). Now back to au naturel ttc with some acu. Contemplating mild/natural IVF in early 2013.

princesschick 30, DH 34. TTC actively for 24 months over 3.5 year period, BFP Oct '12. Previously unexplained, bobbly right ovary, borderline progesterone @ 7DPO test (30.2), 2 MCs at 6wks (June '09 and May '11). Have been embracing the brown diet, woo and life coaching to 'chill out'. Now have my FX for Sea Monkey III.

critter 32, DH 33. TTC for 18 months, no ovulation at all (apart from a single clomid-and-hcg-trigger-induced one this summer). PCOS and post-pill amenorrhea. Six cycles of clomid, one cycle of injectibles cancelled because of overstimming and risk of octomom-style multiples. DH all fine. Moving onto IVF this winter.

MissMedusa 33, DH 39. TTC for 14 months. Me: dermoid tumour on ovary removed May '12. Him: asthenoteratospermia (low motility/morphology) but most recent SA came back normal after a course of Tamoxifen, Wellman tablets and healthy living. 1 BFP which ended in MC Sept. '12. We have decided to continue trying naturally for at least the next 6 months.

Eletheomel, me 40, DH 35, TTC No2 for 21 months (took 3 years of ttc to get No1) unexplained subfertility, we're just a lot slower than most other people. I've had one failed IVF before No 1 arrived, and since ttc No2, I've had one miscarriage at 10 weeks (last May) and maybe 1 chemical pg since then (until current BFP - here's hoping it goes the course - not much time left on my biological clock!)

Freedom I'm 34, dh 39. TTC #1 - too long. yesterday I went to the clinic to see if I've managed to grow an egg this month. I feel like a less-than-golden goose. Nothing yet so I got sent home to take more drugs and try and coax this egg into existence so we can go for IUI mark II.

Artemis me 38, DP 41, ttc too bloody long about 30 months with 1 mc at 6 weeks March 2011. All tests fine so we are technically unexplained. 5 months of clomid did nothing so I am now reluctantly and nervously starting self-funded IVF. On the waiting list for an NHS round next year if this one doesn't work

Sarlat, me 32, DH 48. TTC 30 months. BFP after first month of TTC. Ended in mc at 5.5 weeks. Nothing since. DH boderline / normal SA. In Jan 2012, discovered partially bloked and possibly swollen fallopian tubes at HSG - likely caused by mc or endo. No symptoms of either. May 2012, IVF resulting in BFN and FET natural cycle Sept 2012, BFN. Waiting to see if we go ahead with another FET.

buzzy 39 Mr B 38, TTC 18 months, BFP after first month then miscarried @ 6 weeks, again miscarried @ 10 weeks. Nothing for 13 months, Diagnosed with high NK cells, DH not the best SA low motility/morphology, 5 x Super Ovulation 1 x IUI, looking into IVF for the beginning of 2013. Tried woo, on lots of meds

rum 31, OH 30, TTC 27 months/33 cycles, 2 BFPs with early losses in that time, nowt since Feb 2011. Unexplained, theoretically perfect physical specimens both (on testing so far). Awaiting HSG, about a year to wait for NHS IVF, having much woo and carrying on shagging in meantime.

lemon, both 33, TTC forever (27/28 months), totally unexplained, 1 MC Sept 2012 after SO+IUI, patiently waiting for The Return of The Cycle or actually mentalling about natural diffage on the cycle after MC, yeah right SO+IUI to start again after two post-MC cycles, which won't be before December.

teu, 36, DH 38, TTC 17 months, only just starting investigations. Day 3 & 21 bloods 'normal', waiting on DHs SA to complete public system

rabbit 35 dh 33 on 19th cycle of ttc, almost 2 years in real time, derailed by a small op and a big op to hunt down a mammoth fibroid that turned out to have vanished like a thief in the night. According to latest batch of tests we should be fertile but clearly we aren't. But these are now a year old. Plans for three cycles of clomid in the New Year, then IUI, then ivf in the summer. Or maybe not, it scares the pants off me

Joycep - me 32, mr 30. Ttc 2.5 yrs. 1 mc 7wks July 2010. Tried clomid, gonalf and iui, hsg, vitamins and prayer. Amh now suddenly extremely low but afc and fsh isnt disastrous. Everything else normal but hidden C detected. Lap & hysteo in next few weeks.. Ivf appt and immune testing in Nov.

Frannie- me 35, mr 37. Ttc 2.5 yrs. no BFPs. Mr all fine. Me PCOS but unexplained due to regular albeit late ovulation. All else ok on basic tests. 3xIUI, last couple with metformin. Couple of clomid cycles upcoming then IVF in the New Year.

Happy friday ladies!

Firstly wow, another BFP on the Fred, yay hart and some potentials . Speaking of which, mrsd are you tempted to try one of princess' hobnob and buzzy is there no chance you may get a stripy one too?

buzzy kayla sounds adorable and a little naughty :) I'm so pleased she is helping you a little. They really are our fur babies. Are you at create tomorrow? Good luck if you are.

joy gosh your work situation sounds scary, poor you. One of the few good things about the civil service is the relative job security, although the pay's crap! I too am hoping for an ironic pre op BFP for you.

princess you are doing soooo well so far. You will get through this weekend! I have a feeling about sea monkey iii. I love the story of how you met mr p. Mine is far worse - we got hammered on fake Pimms at a party and I snogged his housemate, ahem, from whom he 'rescued me'.

Oh and I'm very happy for pregnant 10+ ttcers to stay here. I keep thinking I should post on an ivf Fred and do read other Freds (I esp like the witty ladies on besh -what does that stand for euro?!), but feel this is my natural home, particularly having met some of you.

mrsd and teu sorry about the announcements. They just don't get easier...

sar I really hope you are ok. Thinking of you.

Did people have appointments this week? I can't remember.

I realllly feel like getting a bit hammered tonight. Busy week, big deadline almost over, shit journey home (I'm still en route) and I just quite fancy some wine. Hmm maybe I'll treat myself to a glass or two...

gin I am at Create tomorrow, no hobnobs here, I didn't ovulate until around cd 30 ish, we shagged way before then, I've never been this late so want AF to come so we can get on with things, have a glass for me :)

Wanted to add my stats because i still read and think about you ladies lots and like to still think of myself as one of the thread! Somehow I managed to cut and paste some of you twice . Could someone help granniefrannie by editing? So sorry. Mind you, there are still loads of us! That's not to say that anyone should disappear in their 12ww, or after. We'd miss you too much! Heart a massive congrats for joining the little gang. I really hope this is a sticky one. princess your little story was like a film montage, so heart warming. Hope this is the icing on your happy ever after! Hope you're keeping well too elu.

Sorry to hear of crying in cupboards, second announcements and wonky cycles. Glad to hear of positive woo, blue ovulation dreams and some of us moving towards IVF (even if bloody scary).

Wish I could meet you all next week. I have hellish baby shower to attend . Nearly everyone there will be preggo or with baby under 8 months. Can't wait

Thank you for all of your advice last week when I was stressing about my situ/ my nephew's. my mum had been a bit exasperated that I still couldn't 'count my blessings' but I realise she's going through hell and I needed to choose my audience to have a wobble with.

Had IUI today and, as you can see from stats am moving onto 2/3 x clomid then IVF. Could have skipped the clomid but mr f needs more time before the big guns. Nice to know that there are a few of us that will be going through it together, although it would be great to continue the run of BFPs with some natural, shock pre-IVF updiffs!

Will enjoy the carrot cake and add a Lady Mary Berry lemon yoghurt cake to the mix. Loads of love to all!

Wow, heart, congratulations! Have a sticky paw to squeeze. Really lovely news.

rabbit I am so hoping that this is your month.

princess I loved your story about meeting your DH. Funny and romantic, like all the best boy meets girl beginnings. I hope that you can get over the hump of this weekend.

teu I too feel like a panda, ovulating once a year (if that)

buzzy best of luck tomorrow. Spotting sounds promising.

gin the glass of wine sounds nice.

joy sorry work is so stressful. Stay in the bubble of peace!

mrsd sorry about colleagues serial-sprogging.

eleuth hope all is well in the 12ww tent.

frannie I'm sorry about your mum telling you to count your blessings - people don't realise that pain isn't relative. Well done on the IUI and I hope it works! I too have two baby showers to go to this weekend.

My hormones seem to have settled down a bit and the spotting is tailing off - I no longer feel batsh*t crazy, and have started thinking about other things again - my writing hobby and doing crafty stuff. It's such a relief, the constant stressing is exhausting. Waves to all that I've missed.

Hi ladies. I'll try to catch up a little bit. Firstly congrats to Heart, that is great news, fingers crossed for stickiness :)

Loved the boy meets girl story Princess. I am sure all is different this time around, and Seamonkey The Third has a nice ring to it. I can only imagine the worry doesn't go with the stripey hobnob. And on that note I'm hoping that some more turn up on here soon. Rabbit, spotting etc sounds interesting. And I'll say no more than that

Glad things have settled down a bit Critter. Are you decided to wait until the new year for IVF now?

I hope your nephew is doing as well as can be expected Frannie, the wee soul. I think you've summarised well about choosing your audience. Sometimes, much as it always surprises me, our parents aren't superheros after all, and can only cope with so much. We will be your broad shoulders in the meantime.

MrsDen your post about thinking you'd never have that cling-on child resonated so much with me, more on that later. But for what it's worth I think you WILL get there. From what I've read, you are one of those incredibly frustrating cases (from your perspective) when there is no real reason why it's not working; but as my NHS consultant said, IVF works for you. That's not to say it will work first time, but I don't think you're that far away :)

Joy sorry about the job woes. Good for you on fighting for the positivity.

Buzzy hooray for the job interview for MrB. Fingers crossed.

Euro are you at Create this weekend?

Hello to Lemon, Medusa, Mellow, Gin, Eleth, Sar, Artemis, Freedom, Rum and anyone else I've shockingly missed.

So for me, after my AFC and repeat AMH, I got the results back yesterday. Sadly they completely confirmed my previous test. AMH of less than 1.5. The AFC was classed as very low. So although I had 4 or 5 follicles on each ovary, they only measure those at 6-9mm as worthwhile, and I only had one on each ovary plus the one that had ruptured (in my mind that was the ovulation one). All the paperwork essentially says they would rarely recommend IVF with own eggs with my results. That said, it was a standard documentation, and I don't think anything has changed from my meeting with the doc previously, who was happy to go ahead. But it was a repeat of the heartbreak I experienced when I got the initial AMH result, and I sobbed inconsolably cried a bit more. I have had a pretty low 24 hours and am back to feeling that this is never going to happen for me. Berating myself for waiting, and coincidentally was feeling exactly like MrsD. That I'll never have a child who sometimes cannot be consoled by anyone except by me. That will consider me to be the best most important person in their world. That will call me mummy. And you know when I read all your histories, I see it happening for all of you. But not me. There is nothing I can do. The cards have been dealt and I got the joker :(

I don't know if this makes me feel better or worse - tonight MrN stopped in past to see his sister and her kids - 2yo boy and new little niece. Apparently my nephew had been asking where I was and kept asking why I wasn't there. I couldn't face it tonight. He is lovely, and while it's gorgeous that he was saying all these things, sometimes I get upset when say he gets tired and immediately gravitates to one of his parents; it just highlights that, at the end of the day, I'm an auntie. Not a Mummy :(

Clearly feeling rather sorry for myself. I am very tired, work has been crappily busy. Have wedding stuff needing doing and not feeling very excited. Meh.

Thank you for your kind words nelly. I am so so sorry about yesterday. You poor thing. I hope you are getting RL support from mr n and family. What options are the hospital giving you? Have they given you further guidance or support?

In RL my auntie's friend was in the same boat with similar results. I have been in contact with her through some of my low points recently and she has been really helpful. When or if you feel up to it, I'm sure I could ask her any questions you may have. She did mention a website/board that she gained a lot of support from, which was less of a hand-hold than us but more medically based (not to diss Dr Joy!). If you wanted me to find out what it was then of course i will. I'm so sure this will happen for you nelly, i just wish it could be effing easier. we're all here for you. ,and a massive hug.

Frannie how incredibly lovely of you to say such nice things, when you have so much more on your plate. A shining example of why this thread is so amazing, not least because I've been so lacking in support for everyone else recently, in my self absorbed way. Thank you for your kind offer. I have allowed myself a bit of Google torture tonight but trying to heed the words of my woo lady, who would steer me away from internet forums. In fact I basically lie and you lot are now my dirty secret .

I should probably go to sleep. I have indeed been on the wine tonight, even though I am supposed to be on pre IVF boring healthy stuff. Fat lot of good that's going to do.

Sorry critter, I missed your post. Glad your hormones are more settled. Not surprising you were skuwiff (sp?) after being a potential octomum. One shot of ovitrelle and I nearly lost it with the self scanning checkout in tescos today. Was shouting 'I AM putting it in the bagging area' to it, when the cashier pointed out that I was putting it on the wrong side. I think we are in a similar boat with the decision making this week. I have swung wildly between no clomid and going for it in jan to leaving it for a few more months. I'm not worried about doing it but I'm incredibly worried about it failing.

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Congratulations, heart! Here's hoping it's a sticky one. And I love the positive news - it engenders so much hope.

rabbit fear not, I shall menkul quietly on your behalf...

joy I've slept wonderfully since giving up charting, whereas I was waking multiple times in the night before, which I think was just out of anxiety. It's like every morning's temp was a test for my body to (inevitably) fail. Ugh. I'm well shot of that for now.

Aww, princess, such a luffly story. Happy anniversary - I hope the celebratory burgers were ace. And good luck getting through the weekend.

buzzy is Kayla a cat, perchance? Because her behaviour sounds suspiciously like that of ours. Who is most naughty but babied beyond belief.

Bugger about the low AMH nelly. I sometimes think that I'd really rather not have any more testing because I dread what might be unearthed. That must have been really hard news to hear.

I'm working this weekend. How dull. Thankfully, there is drama on the boards to liven my evening up.

I hope everyone has a lovely weekend. Cheery waves to all.

Ooh, frannie, I missed your post - IUI today? Fingers crossed for it! Although you don't seem very hopeful that it will work, thinking forward to the IVF cycles already? Well, I'll keep my fingers crossed in the meantime.

Nelly, you've given so much support, please don't think that. I am the worst for dropping in, needing advice and support than buggering off. But you're all still lovely and put up with me! I think we all know that our jobs and hobbles can mean that we just don't have the time to post sometimes. Totally understand about the googling. I know it's bad when I end up googling symptoms but then find myself trawling through threads on 'baby and bump' and 'soulcysters'!

Thanks rum. I did have my biggest ever follie this cycle at 22mm, i needed to trigger and was 'done' on day 20. Usually I get a LH surge on an opk at 17mm, last month this wasn't til day 26. So I at least feel like the metformin might be helping a bit, maybe. I think if there was male factor I'd see more potential in the IUI. It's good to be scanned though and now feel like the nurses are really trying to fight my corner the more I've got to know them. Boo to weekend working- crapness.
Right I really need to get to bed!

Rum I said to MrN last night that all the AMH/AFC stuff was doing was pointing out, with a large sledgehammer, how undeniably fucked my body was. I am convinced I'd rather have innocently and hopefully TTC'd every single month between now and menopause, and failed, then have had these test results. I can't even begin to describe how it makes me feel. Sort of... shameful? I'm an achiever, I've worked hard to get the results I wanted out of life. But I feel like I've been caught cheating or something. So hard to put into words. :(

That's an interesting thread .

Oh I think I also missed the IUI bit Frannie :)

Morning lovely ladies.

Big hug to nelly for the shitty results. I really hope for you, but it is not what you want to hear. Feel free to rant and wail and be hand held. We're here for you.

Congrats heart. How wonderful the endo-surgery was worth it. I am keeping fingers crossed for a sticky one. at slutty princess meets cool man story. Good luck this weekend, everything is hoping for your third time lucky!!

Big waves to all of you. Yay for settling hormones critter and at ovitrelle check out moments frannie. I am flitting in and out too, as I got quite busy with work and am trying to exercise and do fun things with DH at the weekend.

oh nelly, i'm so sorry about your results yesterday. I feel sick on your behalf. I know it all looks utterly bleak but it's not over yet. It just takes one don't forget and there are extraordinary stories out there where people are told the grimmest of news but ivf still works. I'm sorry if that's not helpful but i wanted to give you some hope. We are here for you Nelly.

Ooh heart exciting!
princess loved the tale of how you met MrP. Ours is really boring - I stopped him eating his sandwiches.
buzzy we've got one of those too. Cheeky monkey and crazy for the Whiskers treats. Sometimes when Poppy is all cuddled in under my chin, I wonder if she is enough of a baby for me.
frannie FX for the IUI. Mary Berry Lemon Yoghurt Cake is yum. I didn't use the right sized tin so it spread all over the oven. Heck of a mess.
nelly more hugs for shitty results.

My massage lady is suggesting acupuncture. MrTeu thinks it's hokum, but I'm thinking even if it could do something for my constant anxiety. Exhausting. Wish I could just unplug the brain occasionally for some peace.
Hope you are all having lovely weekends.

Heart - wow, wow. Congratulations. That is the best news. These autumn BFP's are coming thick and fast. Every chance this is a sticky bean, be kind you yourself and stay positive.

Artemis - how exciting about starting the meds. Nothing but positive thoughts from now on!

Rum - the extended EWCM sounds promising. Your ovaries haven't given up as that is how you get EWCM.

Lemon - thanks for the cake, hope work settles down soon.

Mrs Den - I felt sad reading your post about time with your freind and her clingy baby. Big hugs from me, sometimes it does feel pants doesn't it.

Teu - big higs too. It is sometimes an uphill slog.

Rabbit - I am holding my breath. Didn't princess have 'backache' too. And the fact the spotting has gone sounds very intruiging!

Joy - really sorry AF has showed up. The next stages will move you forward, I promise. You are right about reading Dr Beer at bedtime - It is like being asked to be tormented.

Princess - loved reading your ge totgether story. And thanks for what you wrote about babies being precious things which shouldn't be planned to oder. So right. Take every day as it comes, stay strong and enjoy those oniony burgers.

Buzzy - Kayla sounds like a right character. Really really hope you cycle settles soon but spotting could be a good thing maybe? . Good luck for your DH's interview.

Frannie - oo good luck with the IUI. What you are going through is very very tough and you deserve a chance to talk to someone and let off steam - I guess your mum was very stressed (poor thing, must be awful for her) but counting our blessings doesn't really cut it for us does it.

Will post more later - got a visitor.