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TTC for 10+ months, part 9

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akuabadoll · 10/08/2012 12:52

Ladies, number 9. The lucky one.

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buzzybee123 · 05/09/2012 18:17

sar alot of the websites state abit about FET but will keep those questions in mind, so much to remember. Mr B has been looking stuff up, bless him, he then came and spoke to me about FET. I think at my age and from what I've read on websites they would only put two in max.

joycep fingers crossed they are not updiffed

princess I too have ordered that book, might look into life coaching a bit, I have that CD of cares if you want I can post it to you.

critter have they sorted out your medication

ArtemisTheHunter · 05/09/2012 18:26

Hi all

Quick post between conference sessions and dinner. UTI is clearing up at last though i think I'll give the ABs another day or two just to make sure. Rabbit thanks very much for the helpful advice. Some of it is similar to the advice given for thrush (I have long since binned evil thongs) but some was new. I am curious about bicarb of soda being helpful in light of previous conversations about the bicarb douche and wondering if there is a general pH thing going on. Hmm.

For those who asked, the AB I've been given is called Nitrofurantoin, brand name Macrodantin. I'm sorry but I can't remember the name of the one I wasn't allowed to take - I'm not sure the dr even said but I guess if you look up ABs for UTIs you might be able to work it out. Nitro whatsit is an older antibiotic but safe to take right up until the late stages of pregnancy.

I'm sorry I can't catch up properly, got to go and make polite conversation with people I don't know very well, but will be back in a few days. Finding the IVF info really helpful. And hopefully I can make the London meet too so there will be a small northern contingent flying the flag. You'll recognise me by the flat cap and the whippet :)

Love to all. To the mn junkies: I am reading on my phone during the boring presentations :)

rabbitonthemoon · 05/09/2012 19:04

artemis I think the bicarb neutralises the stingy wee, I think it's whats in those sachets you buy? But a lot cheaper. it really helps but doesn't get rid.

joyce fingers crossed they are buying a new house/puppy, have a new job or some posh shoes or something. I'm willing for this very much. Lately I'm even irked by 10 plusser announcements too! Let us know how it went.

sarlat I love your informative posts, it really helps me to picture it and has told me more than any book I've read. Did you see the thing on the news about how fab fet is?

princess I bought the book for my brother! and will read it myself too it looks like it creates good visual layers to hang things on, which I really like.

Cooker beeper went off. I've made a tray bake of sausage, apples, garden pots and cider. Yum. I want to retire.

rabbitonthemoon · 05/09/2012 19:06

I mean announcements 10 plussers get, not make Blush they are still D category!

buzzybee123 · 05/09/2012 19:16

rabbit I think that is what Mr B looked up online, he was saying taht it was supposed to be better than fresh?? Only 2 more days of the working week left :)

doopington · 05/09/2012 20:36

Hi ladies, can I join your thread? Me and dh have been ttc for 16 months but no bfps. We are in the early stages of having tests done, dh's test came back with great morphology and motility but sperm count on the low end of average. My blood tests have come back ok except for really high prolactin (think this is also know as LH) in two seperate tests. I'm now waiting for a referral for further tests. Oh and I'm 31, DH is 32.
TTC is really getting to me now, every other week there's a pregnancy announcement or I get asked when I think I'll try for a baby (or worse getting asked if I am pregnant because I look "healthy"). It seems from this thread I am far from alone in being on the receiving end of peoples insensitivity. Here's hoping for lots of BFP's!

Eletheomel · 05/09/2012 20:54

Hi doop just wanted to give you a quick wave hello and welcome to the thread. I plan on having an early night tonight (shag week for me Smile ) but didn't want to run off without saying hello. I'm sorry you've found yourself here, but good news that so far all you tests are okay, maybe you won't be with us for long?
I'm sure that people who ask 'when are you starting a family' or 'when can we expect the pitter patter of tiny feet' have no idea how crap they are making us feel as there is just always that (wrong) presumption that conception is 'natural' and therefore easy, when for a large number of women it's bloody hard!

I will join you in your hope for some BFP's, come on eggs and swimmers lets get together - you know you want to!

doopington · 05/09/2012 21:10

Thanks Eletheomel. Smile I agree that people do make the presumption that conception is easy and just take fertility for granted. I'm hoping for some good news soon but I know I could have a long hard road ahead of me yet. Until then I am going to try and be as healthy as possible and hope like mad that it makes a difference.

CareBear1 · 05/09/2012 22:40

Welcome doop

Yes Joy of course, have got loads, message me your address. For anyone else pondering meditation, the ones I've got are the zita west for ivf one (which I think is very similar to the non-ivf one- heart shaped hands and coloured lights), for ivf it's really good as its simple and to the point and when you're nervous about what's going on during the cycle I found it really helpful. Also the Jon kabat-zinn mindfulness meditation, which I love as its non ttc related, there's a body scan which just totally clears my mind. I've got Randine Lewis ones which are very woo (let go of the hurts, allow the soul of your future child to find you, step out into the healing place etc) but if you don't take It too literally and listening to the twinkly music I find it soothing. I've got a few other random Internet downloads. Anyway have a stash of blank CDs so happy to send out copies.

CareBear1 · 05/09/2012 22:41

Ps Artemis am loving the brazen mn surfing during presentations!

CritterPants · 05/09/2012 23:30

Hi ladies, another quick phone post, sorry. So doc says I can take the gonal f instead of the follistim - I will have to take a higher dose as it only comes in 37.5 increments so you can't get as specific with the dosage - so will take 75 instead of 50 initial dose. I am picking it up tomorrow and will start tomorrow evening, four injections for four days, then blood work on Monday. I'm kind of excited. I asked how much a cycle would cost without insurance and it was 870 dollars - luckily I only have to pay ten bucks. Crazy. Again, apols for lack of name checking - am reading along, welcome doop! And care, I love Jon kabat zinn. I have done his body scan, it's awesome. Waves to Artemis, princess, buzzy, sarlat, rabbit and joy - and eleth! And those I have missed.

CocoAndNuts · 06/09/2012 06:36

I've turned it to such a lightweight!

buzzy Grin at your chocolate factory dream. Wish I had some like that! I also have a obsession withlove of pretty little notebooks but I can never bring myself to use them because they look like they deserve something exciting, like a book from Indiana Jones with sketches and maps and hurried but perfectly formed scribblings Smile
It's great that MrB is being so supportive and helpful, looking stuff up for you.

joy fingers crossed it wasn't an updiffed announcement.

waves to everyone else. Ran out of time, have to get up for work.

akuabadoll · 06/09/2012 07:06

Artemis good to hear it's clearing up at last. Hope the twat wear is working out nicely.

Welcome doop

sar that was a really useful set of ideas for questions, thanks a lot. I had a bit of a read here and there last night on natural, mild, short and long protocol, message boards and a few articles. I guess the (exclusive?) focus here will be on conventional IVF, perhaps even only on long protocol. From what I have read so far, the dr will have a hard time convincing me if they do exclusive long protocol. As I understand, older women = fewer eggs whatever the treatment = higher doses of drugs pointless. That is enough in itself but there also seems to be good arguments that suggest higher doses are more likely to compromise results. I'm sure that is all very simplistic but as you say sar he needs to prove he would treat me as an individual. I have read that it's hard on the first round to make these choices as they don't know how you will react, but with info out there on lower ovarian reserve and post +35 ladies, surely this is a good starting point, no? nelly I know you have also been wrestling this one recently. Anything I'm misunderstanding?

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rumisyum · 06/09/2012 07:27

Every time I read twat wear I keep thinking of bits being worn out from shag week. Grin (No points for guessing where I am in my cycle.)

Hi doop! Welcome. You sound in a similar mindset to me at the moment. And ARGH bloody ARGH at the neverending stream of queries about the current state of occupancy of my uterus and my future plans for it. How is that even anyone else's business? ARGH.

Sigh. Hope everyone's enjoying the sunshine. Judging by our midafternoon sunsoaked quickie yesterday, I'd say we are. Grin Wink

MissMedusa · 06/09/2012 08:26

Hello ladies, I'm back from a wonderful vacation and missed you all! I'm still catching up (on page 11) and it looks like we've had some good news on this thread but I'll write properly when I've caught up.

For now I just want to ask what the most common causes for a very late period are? Is it a progesterone problem? I'm on CD39 which is very late for me. I thought I had OV'd on CD22 but I stopped taking my temperature after 3 consecutive high temps so maybe it dropped again and wasn't a proper OV. I usually have a shortish luteal phase and my longest cycle ever was 36 days (norm 27-29 days). I am definitely not PG (have tested) so what's up? Any ideas? Temps have been hovering around the cover line for the past 3 days.

seaviewasia · 06/09/2012 09:06

Hi ladies,

Care how did you find the bridge?
Sar I will definitively get on the case with my nhs re results.
Joy & doop I know how you both feel re pregnancy announcements sfrom friends. I am genuinely happy to friends but whenever there is an announcement everyone else asks me ? ?so you have been married for 3 years, when are you going to have kids, you shouldn?t wait too much longer you know?. It?s v annoying. One of DH?s friends actually said to me ? ?maybe you can?t pregnant because you don?t believe in God? (I am an atheist). I was so angry but didn?t say anything. Deep breaths. Talking of which, I have to go to a baby shower this weekend. Again, I don?t mind but I can?t bear the questions about when I am going to have kids! I guess I am a private person in that respect.

General comment about therapy - I have been in therapy for a couple of years and I find it really useful. It helps me think more clearly and it?s a safe place for sharing your thoughts which it isn?t always so easy to even with your close friends.

One last question ? has any here had IUI or IVF at CRGH? I met them last night and I really liked the place. Think I might give it a go there. Any suggestions to particular doctor I should ask for there? They said they always aim to give you the same consultant every time you go in.

seaviewasia · 06/09/2012 09:12

care
I bought the randine lewis book recently. I have read good things about it. Looking forward.
I have also read Emma Cannon's The Baby Making Bible which I found really lovely. It has some very nice food recipes on there as well.

MuddyWellyNelly · 06/09/2012 13:29

Hello doop. Welcome to the madhouse Smile. I hope we can provide somewhere calm to weather the storm.

doll yes short protocol is deemed to be better for poor responders. The aim I guess is quality not quantity. That's why I was so cross with my first clinic. With the second one, no question that was their recommendation. BUT age alone doesn't determine how you'll respond.

Had my first acu today. Was ok. She suggested I try to put on just a few pounds as sometimes the body doesn't think you can cope with pregnancy. She's recommended cake brazil nuts and cashews. Bleurgh Envy

seaviewasia · 06/09/2012 14:36

Sorry should have said princess - i will definitely get ont he case re nhs results.
Still new to this.

princesschick · 06/09/2012 15:33

Sea Don't worry I'm new(ish) to this too. My first meeting with the consultant was my last one back in June. I didn't expect to hear from him, but couldn't bear to wait for my results so called up my GP and got the receptionist to read them out over the phone. I've learnt from these ladies that there is always a way and that the NHS need a lot of prodding to keep on track. Although I was quietly impressed that the consultant wrote to me and didn't need prodding. He may be a patronising old man but at least he is good at proper correspondence.

Nelly GL with the NHS. I'm looking forward to my next needle sesh, I felt really odd and like nothing had happened immediately after but did feel different later that day and the following day (although I did see Blur and go on hols, so whether I was just in a good mood anyway, I don't know!) Also a bit Envy that you have to put on weight. Cake with nuts in though, non? I'm not overweight, in fact I'm smack bang in the middle of my BMI, but I would like to be a bit down the scale again (holidays and family gatherings are evil to the waist line!) Grr.

MissM so glad you had a lovely hols. I don't know what would delay a period outside of the obvious (BFP). But I do seem to remember the TCOYF lady talking about delayed ovulation or when the body keeps trying to ovulate but doesn't and that the luteal phase doesn't usually change, it's the ov date that does. Sorry for uselessness

rum Grin Grin Grin at twat wear. Now you're just making me think about bald tyres. Why? I have no idea. Utterly wrong, but quite funny. I'm glad foofs don't wear out like tyres on cars. Imagine a foof pit stop? :) (the back and beyond of my mind is clearly warped and twisted)

joy how was your last minute gathering yesterday? A new kitchen and puppy respectively I hope? Just as Rabbit suggested.

buzzy glad Mr B is being so helpful, that's really amazing. I could never imagine Mr P researching fertility stuff.

Artemis hoorah the UTI is moving on. How is it going in conference land? Loving that you were reading during a boring talk.

Critter always impressed at how you deal with this. You are a true ledge. Blood work sounds terrifying. Can I ask... what the hell is blood work?

Rabbit I did laugh about your small accidental slip about even being annoyed by 10 + announcements Grin We all knew what you meant really!! But your post last night prompted me to go up off my arse and make dinner. Your dinner sounded lush. I made a delish lamb stir fry last night with courgettes, tomatoes, ginger, green beans, ginger, garlic, ginger and soy sauce. Did I mention the ginger? Served on a bed of not-so-fluffy brown rice. Mr Princess was quietly impressed! We had some of my mega smoothies for dessert too. It's amazing how much better I feel when I make an effort with my diet.

Well the chimp book is going well. I've been selectively doing some of the exercises. I've interspersed reading with planning the kitchen, which is so much fun. Although slightly daunting how much it all costs and may have to reign in some of the ideas. Boo hiss. However, I am thinking of getting some of the bigger (nicer) companies to design it and then give it to Mr P and his friend who makes kitchens so that Mr P can learn to make a kitchen (with supervision of kitchen making friend of course)... How hard can it be Wink ??? I've also been having loads of fun (yep, you heard it fun ) teasing Mr P, who is at home today about how much his inner chimp keeps coming out today. He has named his chimp too. He thinks I've gone mad with all my analogies and explanations but it's good to have another monkey to observe. It's certainly given me food for thought. And an increased appetite for bananas Hmm I haven't once been troubled by TTC in my head today, small babies and children made me smile and pregnant women were ignored. It's not entirely their fault that they're pregnant (true though Grin ) And my chimp, is calm and in her box makes a change . I even managed to negotiate a hostile chimp inducing phone call, a conversation battle about a plain roller blind or a spotty / floral blind in the new kitchen and a discussion about a birthday present for PiL, and whether or not they can feed me tarte au citron tonight or if not, are they are allowed to eat it in front of me. Or do I have any other suggestions for pud tonight. I have no idea how many times I have to tell them to have what they want and I'll either bring my own or not eat desert. Last time they bought out a plate of nuts, apple and dried fruit and they looked like they were going to cry whilst forcing down "health" food. I don't even have a sweet tooth FFS (small chimp slip). They don't need to worry. Grrr. Mr P reminded them that I have to keep calm and that their fussing causes me stress, so it would be better for them to carry on and not to flap about a bit of cake / crumble / pie.

Waves to everyone. Oh and anyone seen Pout around recently?

Big hugs, tail feather shakes and the rest of the routine xxxx

I'm off to buy a brown pudding (so the PiLs don't feel guilty) and kitchen magazines. Girly yay :)

CritterPants · 06/09/2012 15:37

nelly the acu sounds good, and do let us know how the NHS appointment goes!

medusa welcome back!

joy how did your evening go? Hope you didn't get the announcements you were dreading.

rum very impressed by your vigor!

doll good for you with doing all this research into IVF, I am really rooting for you. Did you find out anything more on how they go about it where you are?

sea I used to ask people questions like that - no more. Long-term TTC has made me a lot more tactful! On the other hand, I tell my woes to all and sundry, which isn't necessarily ideal either.

lovesLemonDrizzleCake · 06/09/2012 15:56

Sorry for posting and running, we had an early scan for reassurance, which was not reassuring. No heart beat at 6+4, which basically means it is a miscarriage waiting to happen. Another scan next week if it has not come out before. We're unsurprisingly devastated.

CritterPants · 06/09/2012 16:18

Oh no, no, no lemon - I am heartbroken for you. How incredibly, totally, awful and hellish. I don't know what to say other than that I am so very sorry that this has happened - you really don't deserve this terrible pain. I will pray for a miracle for you and Mrlemon.

rabbitonthemoon · 06/09/2012 16:23

lemon Sad I'm so sorry, that is so very sad to hear. I hope it isn't so, might it just have been too early? Sending so much love, you will be in my thoughts a lot.

princesschick · 06/09/2012 16:30

Oh god Lemons. Sad This is the worst news. I am so, so, so, so sorry. Take really good care of yourself and see what happens next week. I really hope that the next scan is more positive. Big, big hugs to you and Mr Lemons. Thinking of you both xxx lots of love xxx

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