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BFP in 2012- a thread for winkling-advice and COD-avoidance!

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wishfulthinking1 · 15/07/2012 14:37

So... here we are!
In a positive move to avoid monthly heartache this is the thread where we'll ttc in 2012.

"will there be winkling?" of course!
"will there be tinkling?" too right! you filthy buggers
"will there be time in the COD?" probably- but it'll only be short lived!
"will there be BFPs?" YES YES YES!

A pledge! do you think I'm taking this too seriously?
I, wishfulthinking, promise to ttc with all my might. I accept that ttc is a long, drawn out process and I shant allow myself to become too obsessed with the process in 2012. (if I remain in-duffed at new year, however, I reserve the right to be right royally pissed off with life and everyone in general!)

Who's with me?

Wishfulthinkng1- ttc numero 1- expecting a sticky BFP on July 31st (and at 28 day intervals thereafter!) Days till wedding - 6!

Xxx

OP posts:
KickTheGuru · 08/08/2012 11:22

Also remember whenshewas - when did you get the positive OPK? Because that's not actually when ovulation occurs - it's not when the egg drops. It's a day or two later than that!

I reckon I am now about 2 or 3 dpo. Can't really tell though - got the positive on Friday but the eggie could have dropped a MINIMUM of Saturday then...

WhenSheWasBadSheWasHorrid · 08/08/2012 11:40

Positive opk was on tues & wed last week so I think I oved on Thursday (but it is just a guess). Dh is very supportive it this month he seems convinced I am knocked up, keeps giving me sly looks every time I yawn.

Think it is easier for my dh, his job is provide sperm which he has proved he is able to do. My job is harder need to provide the egg and a nice safe womb for it to implant into.

KickTheGuru · 08/08/2012 11:56

It's infinitely easier to be them. My DH goes on about how he can put it to the back of his mind and I punch him and say it's not his body anyway. He doesn't feel the tweaks and every little thing so it's not him like...wondering if any little movement is positive.

Mine is very supportive but I think he gets a bit worried when I obsess. Which is a LOT.

I am just glad I don't obsess about the symptoms any more. One less thing to be all freaked out about

resipsa · 08/08/2012 12:08

Whenshe we're in this together at the moment! I'm getting AF cramps which is a small worry as although I'm at CD27, ovulation was on 31/7 at earliest so if AF turns up soon, that's a seriously short LP Confused. Oh God, something else to stress about endlessly!

Impressed by the cleaning. DH always says cleaning is not my strong point (so just as well he does most of it himself).

DulcetMoans · 08/08/2012 12:21

My DP doesn't seem to be sad as such when we get the BFN, but he seems more confused. I think he expects to DTD and make a baby and he is a bit put out as to why that hasn't worked so far.

So, since we are talking ov, I got my smiley on Saturday morning but I started to feel the familiar ov pains Friday afternoon. I didn't do a stick then but assuming I would have got a smiley on the Friday afternoon, I could have ov'd on the Saturday? Or does the surge have to be over before you ov?

Getting technical!

resipsa · 08/08/2012 12:25

Good Q. Do you think anyone really knows the answers to most of the queries we have along those lines? You'd think that if the answers were out there, someone would put together all of the good stuff in one easily accessible place so we'd be spaed the endless googling.

resipsa · 08/08/2012 12:26

Or, indeed, spaRed.

winkle2 · 08/08/2012 12:28

Grin at clenching and wiping it off the headboard!!!

KickTheGuru · 08/08/2012 12:34

The surge will be over before you OV. So what you should do is test every day after you get the first smiley and when the smiley disappears, then you know you should (theoretically) drop the egg within 3 days of the LH surge

Remember that the surge basically tells the eggs to drop and provides the right hormones to allow the drop. It doesn't mean that they do drop or that they drop within a certain time but as far as boxes ticked goes, you should drop the egg within 72 hours of the last detected LH surge.

WhenSheWasBadSheWasHorrid · 08/08/2012 12:39

@ resipsa whispers - implantation cramps not af ????

KickTheGuru · 08/08/2012 12:51

The job is looking positive.

It means that my career is going to take a nice step into a big brand although it's a 9 month contract so could potentially also work well with a pregnancy??

But we won't be able to move to where we want to move to. The commute will just be too long

I am very torn. VERY torn.

redstrawberry · 08/08/2012 12:59

clenching legs at work RIBS! Ditto Ditto.
I pee my last one at 4pm then clench legs, drive home for 6pm and wee in a cup.

Thats the thing the digis are so expensive and I might invest in them if ttc takes longer. But will test with the cheapies and see how far I get.

I know I shouldn't be looking at CM but omg I had the largest lump - 1 whole tea spoon of EWCM. Last month nothing. This month it was stretchy stringy and I feel so wet. OPKs still showing -ve. Will test again tonight. It might be on its way to pop.

All you 2ww - not too long for you to go. Fx for all....and yes its difficult for men to feel as we do. DH doesn't understand it because its all happening in my body. He never asks when my period is due. I asked him if he's not curious - but he said he didn't want to know unless its late :) I love him for it because it takes a bit of pressure off.

redstrawberry · 08/08/2012 13:00

yay on the job kick - i forgot to ask did the interview go well? but i guess it did :)

KickTheGuru · 08/08/2012 13:11

Wow holy crap on the EWCM. I don't get that. I used to - when I was a teenager. I used to be soooo worried because I had NO idea what it was. Now I know. I wish I knew my DH back then... :(

Maybe I'm not as fertile now because I don't get that???

KickTheGuru · 08/08/2012 13:13

The interview did go well. I never really understood that a "competency-based" interview is about your take on how to do things. I always thought when they ask a competency-based question, there is a right or a wrong answer. That you will have to say "Ah yes. Well that would be the Kicking Method and the steps are as follows:.." Kind of thing. I've never been told that it's more about how I would approach those situations...

That said, that was how I approached this interview and the feedback was positive. I just need a telephone interview with another one of the guys and then we hear.

redstrawberry · 08/08/2012 13:13

Kick I never get this much either. I think i have seen it once or twice as a tiny stringy bit but never like this. Could it be because of the CP?

I was just amazed to see it but also grumpy because DH is nowhere near me. Oh hes so not going to know whats hit him when he gets home. I WANT SPERM. I NEED SPERM. Grin

KickTheGuru · 08/08/2012 13:14

Are you taking anything for the EWCM?

I feel jealous. I've not had ANY

KickTheGuru · 08/08/2012 13:19

CP doesn't make your more fertile at all. It doesn't change your fertility.

I think what potentially started that off is that when you have a miscarriage later in the pregnancy, they will typically do a procedure known as a "D&C"

They basically scrape the uterus clean. It's a procedure that they use in terminations but also when you have endometriosis (for instance). In endo, the uterus lining builds up and up and gets thicker with scar tissue and the result is that the egg can't burrow into the lining and therefore, no pregnancy. The D&C helps because for about 6 months after the procedure, that lining is clean and clear and therefore the egg won't have any issues burrowing into the lining.

Anyway, where I think people have stretched it is that a CP is also classified as an early miscarriage and they have given it the attribution of the above because a miscarriage may result in a higher fertility based on whether or not you have a D&C and whether or not there were any issues with the lining.

I know you queried it just after your CP but I didn't think it was the right time to tell you that... :)

redstrawberry · 08/08/2012 13:21

Nope no EPO this month, just folic acid. Since I started TTC theres been an absence of EWCM. I used to get it as a teenager... and none on the pill. I had it in June and now this month. but june was nothing compared to today.

I think I will skip the conceive plus too. doesnt look like i'll need it for the first time in ages.

But at times I wonder if im going to have a wtf cycle because of the CP last month. No point getting excited over EWCM right?! I could still not OV.

I love interviews - my phobia is assessment centre. I sail through most interviews just used to get intimidated by suits and well spoken red-brick uni students back in the graduate days. no offence to anyone from a well-reputed uni!

KickTheGuru · 08/08/2012 13:24

Maybe it's really not a reliable indicator then?

I know that the more EWCM you have, the more chance the sperm have of being protected in the environment?

I've definitely got a lot CM at vital times of month. Me knickers do get a fair bit wet Blush but I don't get those globules and it's not necessarily stretchy.

Started puberty at 9 though so I worry all my fertility is used up

redstrawberry · 08/08/2012 13:31

lol we've had this chat before - it doesn't matter when you start puberty, you are still fertile. Conceive Plus looks and feels just like EWCM - and feels very cool inside. The sex feels good too. So I would highly recommend it.

Thanks for explaining the more fertile after a mc thing. I understand now what that means. I am okay about the CP now, honestly. I was analysing how I felt about it and why. I concluded that I cried more over the loss of what could have been than the loss itself. It never became a part of me. If you understand what I mean.

woody17 · 08/08/2012 13:46

House all cleaned now thank goodness!

My DH is so laid back about getting pg - just thinks it'll happen when it happens, if that makes sense. I was more like that before mc but now I am so impatient for it to happen.

Could you take the job kick and then look to move when the contract is finished?

KickTheGuru · 08/08/2012 13:46

Amazing how we all have our own fears and concerns and how they play out. I think the funny thing is that I am the poster girl for "bodies are all unique" but I still hope and wish and ask and check to see how similar we are.

I know what you mean about the CP. I'd never looked up the date I was due though - guess I never really believed it would stick?? I only told my best mate as well and that was shit enough having to go back and say..."whoops no - I was wrong"

redstrawberry · 08/08/2012 14:18

yes the un-telling bit must be so awful. I was about to tell someone but I am glad I didn't. Smile at poster girl for unique body :) I am hoping your body is finally going to listen to what you want and hoping for magic to happen at the end of 2ww.

Kittenkatzen · 08/08/2012 14:44

Hmmm..on the epic CM red, I had a serious amount the very first month off the pill - it was a bit ridiculous actually, I was in the bathroom for about 5mins poking it about going wtf?! Blush. But since then I've had nothing of any note, so I have wondered if that kind of massive change could have been down to some kind of post-pill hormone rush. Which would lead me to believe that potentially you could find yourself in a similar position post CP? No scientific basis for this of course, just my own musings....

My DH is another one who just seems to look a bit frowny and bewildered at the end of each month, bless him. It's like he's made the decision to do it now, so it's supposed to just happen right?! He has started showing a bit of interest in my cycle though - I've been asked "is it the right time now?" once or twice. I love him for being interested but I'm really trying to not make a massive deal of it at home just for the moment.

kick if it's a contract job and it's that good, then I would be tempted to move to where you want to anyway and just suck up the crap commute for the 9 months. Is there any chance of being able to work from home sometimes?