BFP in 2012- a thread for winkling-advice and COD-avoidance!

[wishfulthinking1]

So... here we are!
In a positive move to avoid monthly heartache this is the thread where we'll ttc in 2012.

"will there be winkling?" of course!
"will there be tinkling?" too right! you filthy buggers
"will there be time in the COD?" probably- but it'll only be short lived!
"will there be BFPs?" YES YES YES!

A pledge! do you think I'm taking this too seriously?
I, wishfulthinking, promise to ttc with all my might. I accept that ttc is a long, drawn out process and I shant allow myself to become too obsessed with the process in 2012. (if I remain in-duffed at new year, however, I reserve the right to be right royally pissed off with life and everyone in general!)

Who's with me?

Wishfulthinkng1- ttc numero 1- expecting a sticky BFP on July 31st (and at 28 day intervals thereafter!) Days till wedding - 6!

Xxx

yes I am not a fan of digis - Going to buy me some superdrug ones next time.
I received my copy of "what to expect" this morning. Another slap in the face! Felt more like a punch.

Like you say kick if the line isn't dark enough I am not believing the 'line is a line' theory again. I just want to get on with shagging. DH cant wait either.

If anything it has made me even more determined to get pregnant. And I am going all out this month. God! If someone opened my bedside drawer they would be shocked to see the contents - Pregnacare, Omega Plus, EPO, Conceive Plus, OPKs and FRER. I think I need a lock on that drawer.

I keep wondering if EPO caused the failed implantation? I stopped on CD14 and took 2000mg. I just feel tempted to skip EPO this month. Any theories on that?

The "line is a line" theory is actually rubbish. The line is VERY clearly a coloured line when you're pregnant and that's the safest way to go about it. The manufacturers can't even guarantee no lines (evap lines) so they say that you need to be able to SEE the line, very clearly.

Go to this site and read around it: www.peeonastick.com/

Evaporation ("evap") lines result with the test's antibody strip just looks slightly different than the space around it. There is a line of antibodies (usually made from mouse cells) in the Control and Test section. The Control line binds with any liquid and turns pink (or blue, in tests using blue dye.) The Test/Result line turns pink only if pregnancy hormone is detected. If not, the moisture passes over this strip and does not turn pink. It may, however, become more visible when the light hits the moisture on the strip it may appear gray, colorless, like a "dent" in the test, or like a "ghost line." It may appear at any time as soon as the urine hits it, after a few minutes as the test absorbs the moisture, or after the 10-minute time limit. It may appear when the test is drying, or after it has dried. It may disappear as the test is drying, or after the test has dried, or not disappear at all.

The simple fact is that there is always "something there" that is slightly visible-- it's simply the antibodies on the test that would turn pink in the presence of hCG. When the test becomes wet, or as it dries, or after it dries, the antibody strip may become more visible. Therefore, all tests may have them. It is not a defect; it's just how tests are made.

As for EPO, I think just so long as you stopped it before OV, you should be fine. I've noticed it gets into your system fairly quickly and then gets out quickly.

I can't take 2000mg. I develop so much CM, I get very uncomfortable. I've reduced it 1000mg and will stop soon.

And I have a box in the bathroom with the pregnancy tests, OPK's and ph tests (I believe in getting your body alkaline so I have alkaline powders on the way as well)

I am taking the 5mg Folic Avid (prescribed by my doctor), the Pregnacare, Zinc, EPO and every third day, another 400mg folic acid.

My folic acid is just because of the diabetes - they are trying to reduce the spina bifida I guess. Not sure why but I've been taking the 400mg folic acid for well over a year now.

Red I took epo this month too and had stoped well before half way but in still not going to risk it again!
As for the line things, really I don't think it makes any difference to being spared heartache ect, I did the digi this morning and was told pregnant and waited well over a week, was convinced on the sat and sun too as although faint were pink lines and now it's probably a cp, last time I got an immediate positive well over a few weeks late a digi 3+, 2 weeks later I still miscarried, TTC is just something we have no control over

kitty so so sorry it looks like the bleeding is getting worse. You are right out ttc being out of our control. I had feeling like that, just want to be pregnant with a sticky pregnancy getting sick of it all. (oh dear looks like today is going to be a bad day).

I think we can only go forward and only keep plugging on. The thing is that we all feel pregnant every month - we really do. It's only certain months where we get to confirm that feeling.

It's hard :(

Yes I am torn about EPO decision. Kick the docs refused to do a blood test, said the surgery only offers a urine test not the bloods for pregnancy unless you are further than 7 weeks pregnant. Tests come back on thur - i think everything will be flushed out by now. I don't feel pregnant today.

Thinking I might take 1000mg only, instead of 2000. I don't know whether it affected OV by delaying it and making luteal phase shorter, which could lead to implantation issues. So doubting if I should take it at all. Got conceive plus instead.

TTC is def emotionally draining :( kitty i don't know what to say - lesbian hug sounds good xx be good to yourself today.

red You would not have had a positive test if you didn't implant properly. Remember that in order for your body to release HCG, there needs to be implantation and the release of HCG subsequent to that.

I really don't believe that the EPO did it. A lot of women on here (I remember a couple) used EPO and have gone on to have sticky pregnancies. I can only assume they're sticky as I've not see them back on here.

I think 2000mg is too much and the point of EPO remember is more to help with very dry lady bits. If you're not overly dry, then don't take 2000mg...

And as far as I know, EPO doesn't effect ovulation time. Only increases CM.

Then later on, can cause small contractions in your uterus. But that would require an implanted embryo for there to be contractions enough to MC.

Get what I'm saying?

Stop blaming yourself, mate. You did nothing wrong.

WHICH means that you would have needed to take EPO after implantation for it to cause contractions enough to MC the implanted embryo...

I am sure I read somewhere on a chemical pregnancy thread or dr.google that a fertilized egg can release HcG which is what got faint positives and implantation is when it increases and doubles.

I read some women on the ttc threads taking upto 3000mg and some 1000mg all with sticky beans so I went for middle ground. Although my cm is not very dry - some cycles theres copious EWCM others theres zilch. So I guess a 1000 should be about enough.

Back to the beginning - CD4 :( i wish my cycles were shorter...this is going to be a long month again. I didnt think I'd have the strength to go through this again and again.

Nope that's wrong. The growing placenta is what releases the HCG and that only happens with implantation. The fertilised egg by itself doesn't release HCG.

Yeh it fucking sucks. I am tired of it now though. It's been too fucking long. :(

God, we all feel the same today. Doesn't help that my office now seems to be FULL of pregnant women, my friend had her second on Sun and I saw 3 pregnant women smoking outside the station today ; I'd say something pithy to them but they all look too hard and I'm a pussy.

I have something to take my mind off it at least

Find a new job and doing the whole diabetes thing.

Ah I am off to meet a recruiter now and it's ONLY one tube journey. No changes. How nice!!

Hello ladies,

I'm still hanging around but it hasn't felt right to post as I still have no idea whereabouts in my cycle I am and AF still hasn't arrived since my termination. However, I have lots of EWCM yesterday and today so I could be ovulating and to top it off I'm horny as hell (watch out DP) I just wish AF would show up so I felt a bit more in control knowing where I am in my cycle.

So sorry to read that some of you are feeling down about TTC. I know it's a hard slog, I remember those down days from when we were TTC#1 and I'm prepared for them this time round (that's probably shit and you'll all remind me when I'm banging on about how fed up I am LOL). I hope you guys can pep up soon, kicktheguru said it was just about 'plugging on' and your right, TTC is not as easy as people think ( alot more difficult for some) but hopefully you'll get where you want to be one way or another.

Fingers crossed for everyone and big hugs xxxx

I think I spoke too soon. More heavy AF all afternoon :(
I am def not pregnant. Dont even have to wait for the test on Thur to tell me that. After this much bleeding I really hope there is no pregnancy.

red

Fancy some wine?

cracking open a bottle tonight - a glass or two or maybe half
also got some brie and cheesecake to devour.

brie and red wine will do me well tonight :) I think I just want the AF to end. Got my opks today - eager to pee on them! Come on Aug!

That's the spirit!!
It will happen, mate. Unfortunately, there are a couple knocks along the way. But I always tell myself that every shit month and every shit occasion is one less piece of rubbish I have to go through in the future.

I nearly filled out a lawyers things for my practice but I really don't want to do that. I loved the NHS and I am really, really so thrilled with the hospital and I really don't want to take this out on the NHS (if you know what I mean). But I am so angry with the doctors practice. So very angry

Kick if it helps, if you sue the GP, the compensation comes from their defence union (to which they pay subs) so you wouldn't be hurting the NHS...

That is interesting. Will chat to my DH but I never know if it's worth it.

I may put in a formal complaint to the NHS. I think suing is counter-productive. And negative. I want to rather have a baby and focus on the positive, rather than have a ball of hate and anger and focus on the negative.

It's been so trying anyway the last few months that it will be nice to find a decent practice (already rung one!) and just try get on with life in general.

storm horny as hell sounds like a good sign to me. I normally get more interested in sex when I ov.

kick you did nearly die. They really should have taken you more seriously.

AF here too - bloody peed on opks for over 2 weeks solid, twice a day, dehydrated etc etc and didn't get a definitive positive so no idea what's going on - ahhh, so frustrating!

So sorry kitty and red - bring on August, we can do this!

My DH agrees that it's just negative energy if we focus on them. I spoke to another practice and will move over ASAP.

I will complain to the NHS though - just so they know. I don't think it's something that they shouldn't be made aware of and I would hate to think someone else goes through what I went through. Especially since it's normally a lot younger people and children so this practice really does need to have some extra help on making sure they do dipsticks and glucose tests. ESPECIALLY since I also could have been pregnant at the time. Just such a wealth of really, bad decisions on their part.

We are going to carry on though. I doubt I will fall pregnant this month so I am not going to further upset myself... :)