TTC for 10+ months, part 8

[eurochick]

A friendly, supportive thread for those taking a blooming long time to conceive!

akua - that?s good you didn?t think about ttc. It?s nice to know that one?s mind can be diverted after adoption.

lady - wow what a boost of hope you have given us all. Crap sperm, dodgy tubes, short LP, failed icsi and you have got there naturally. It says it all really. [now quickly running out to get omega3 and baby aspirin]. And thank you for saying you haven?t been relaxing. What a relief! I have a weird pregnancy radar I think. The weirdest was last year when i just thought that Kate Hudson would end up getting pregnant with that Muse guy and the following day they announced their pregnancy. That was totally bizarre.

I?m sick of pregnacare, i have been thinking of going on to basic folic acid. I have spent over £500 on his and her pregnacare over the last 27 months. I must be mad continuing it.

nelly - i believe i conceived after having sex sessions on the floor. I didn?t think much of it until i read some time later that if you have a soft bed, it would be better to do swi on the floor. Apparently the hard surface helps. I can?t be bothered these days to move from the bed though. What the hell is this writing in thing about? FFS. I have never heard of that.

kitty - how are you getting on - are you close to your due date yet?

missm - oh no you poor cat. I hope she turns up . My best friend?s cat disappeared for 4 months last year. Then one day the vet called up and said this cat had turned up at the vet...and there MrCat was again. They have no idea where he had been but he was huge apparently!

Push those utilities people! I can think back to that time fondly now. Almost . I've moved too many times and lived in many many places at one point moving every few months. When I moved in the house we are still doing up, it wasn't especially pretty and I hadn't had the madly falling in love thing but I made a vow - that I would never ever ever move again. I'm here til I die. And at our current rate of reproducing we won't even need the extension which is my very long winded way of saying, I feel your pain! Moving is very very stressful so it might not be pms? But it will all fade away to a hazy memory when you are in your new lovely project house.

joycep I'm not on any supplements at all now, not even futile acid. I feel bad about that but I've been taking them for three effing years (they were just in case for a while) and the pregnant lady on the front was getting to me. I should probably do something about it now. But I figured that a massive percentage of people don't take them til they get two lines. Everyone please feel free to tell me this is bad ttc behaviour, I know you're right.

Hi, I am well thanks for asking. Despite the constant worrying, everything has been fine so far (touch wood etc). We had our 20 week scan this week and saw a very wriggly baby boy. I still can't quite believe how lucky we were to conceive though. I have told pretty much everyone who will listen that it took us nearly two years.

Due to recent lack of big lazy stupid finger activity, it has gone quiet on the grads thread. I will have to post there to try and get it going for ladygee and the rest of you when more bfp's arrive. They do tend to come in bunches after all!

Thinking of you all x

Wow ladygee that is absolutely amazing news. I am so happy for you. What a wonderful surprise. Congratulations and I second what people have said about not going leaving the thread.

doll Gosh at having to take blood to the hospital. I know we all moan about the NHS from time to time but it is easy to forget how lucky we are.
SWI with house guests won't be that bad I suppose as long as you don't have a creaky bed which we do. I am convinced that the neighbours must know that we are TTC because for two weeks of the month the bed goes hell for leather then absolute silence for a while

nelly You are kidding about needing MrN's signature to get YOUR results. Surely someone is just being lazy and telling you crap to get rid of you.

kitty hello and how lovely to catch up on your news. A baby boy is so lovely.

MissM is you cat back yet? Thinking of you.

rabbit Hope that you are a bit more cheery today.
Clomid treatment is a weird one. My old consultant in W. Sussex was adament that Clomid was dangerous in ovulating women and wouldn't prescribe it.

Princess It's good that you have sold your flat but deepest sympathies on having to move in with the ILS. Do you get along?

euro Rooting for a normal period for you so you can get back to normal. Also hoping that your appointment goes well for your cervical stuff.

buzzy Is your MIL making excuses by any chance for having been insensitive?
BTW I'm not on any immune treatment

Joycep Cripes at £500 spent on vits. I am on the bog standard Tesco Folic Acid.
at your witchiness over Kate Hudson. Do you forsee any more Part 8 Fred babies

lemons Hope you are okay. Injections sound horrible especially with side effects. Thinking of you.

Had my appointment today. Am a little bit concerned in that the consultant said that she is certain there are at least 3 large follies. She said that she will half the Clomid dose next cycle so "we don't have this worry again". I don't care, 1 baby, 6 babies, I just want a ruddy baby!!!!!! mentally tots up the Child Benefit for 6 babies
Anyways they look ready to pop but if I don't get the LH surge by Friday I will be triggered then. So here's to a clutch of eggs that MrP's swimmers will no doubt miss, that will fail to implant or simply be old and crusty!

pout if it's sextuplets you really will have to share

Lol at pout sharing! Will you go by age, years of trying, or dedication to the thread?.

joy I googled conception soft bed. Instead found lots of articles on cot death . And also feng shui for conception. I now have to go home and clear out under my bed . Now I have to do housework to win a baby .

nelly under my side of the bed is pristine and dust free. His side is frightening. Im not allowed to touch it. But now I have ammunition

Kitty - that's great news. I can imagine it's very difficult to relax but you are half way now! And a boy will be lovely.

Rabbit- I must say I have become very slack with the folic pills as well. I probably take one a week nowadays.

Pout - triplets, triplets - it would be great if someone on here had a multiples pregnancy. Finger, you Pout.

Nelly - feng shui to get preggers? Oh dear it will never happen for me then.

My MiL has finally left , she has been staying for several days. She has left me 50 Shades of Grey, I am quite disturbed by this, I hear it is extremely raunchy....I hope it isn't a hint!

lemonbig hugs, this is such a shit journey, you need to tell them that this medication is difficult to administer and has side affects for you, it really does sound like a faff. Like I have said many times how good counselling is, maybe you could ask your GP about some sessions, in the mean time we are all here for you.
Well my butt smells like roses no I was closing the gate so this massive dog couldn't get out, when she came to say hello my pool back home wasn't bad for talent, got asked out a couple of times when I was there, one was Italian, obviously in my younger,thinner didn't mind being seen in a bikini day has to think back for a very long time to those days

medusa I only pump myself full of drugs because I just want my fucking baby and if this increases my chances then I'll do it, I HATE IT though, I would have thought maybe SO with IUI would be better than ISCI but I'm no expert, I'd ask the con next time you are there why she has suggested this, I too like to plan in advance and to have some idea before it happens, its best to be prepared then to have to make an on the spot choice, I should have been a girl guide :) MIL doesn't smoke but I doubt she looked much into what she should or should not do whilst pregnant, thankfully some other family members are coming on Sunday
Hope your kitty gets home safely

doll how does one procure blood?? Are you allowed to say where in Africa, i lived in Zambia as a small child and have very fond memories of my time there as i'm sure 'mini doll' will too at Let's put it in buzzy's Dr's "can't hurt" bucket I'm sure that is what he would say, he doesn't make me feel crazy

nelly coloured pens are good for sticking up useless peoples backsides :) funnily enough a patient was telling me yesterday that she needed her husbands signature to go on the pill

kitty that is great news :) any ideas on names

rabbit SUPER BIG HUGS I really am sorry that you feel like this

princess well its no surprise, he is Greek, how long would you have to stay with PIL'S for, could you spend some time with your parents?? if you can't get the gas etc sorted out. My former BIL/SIL lived for months and months in a small tent whilst they literally built their house from scratch, this was in Oz though, I thought they were crazy

pout sorry I thought you were on treatment, do you think its a problem for you?? Usually with SO they like you to have 2-3 follies anything more and they will tell you to abort the cycle, they don't want the responsibility of you having a mulitple pregnancy, although there is nothing to stop people from trying, you stand a very good chance finger crossed

Well Simon the Squirrel stayed with us for about an hour or so, I called the RSPCA but then cancelled them, Mr B gave him some nuts, he kept banging on the window and then threw himself at it, Simon the squirrel not Mr B, anyway he finally realised he wasn't going to become the lodger so managed to climb his way down.
So I tested and got a bfn which means the ovitrelle is out of my system, so as to why I feel exhausted and why my boobs are so sore, had a bid of spotting so feel ERTD might appear early oh and I feel tearful like every month

On a non ttc moan I went to my GP about my hallux bulgus a bit like a bunion but not one, I have been having knee problems and got one of the physios to take a look they advised me to see GP and gave me some exercises, they reckon the knee problem is related to the foot problem.
So GP says that I won't get referred for surgery as they don't do that here in Faux Surrey, unless I am in incredible pain and I am unable to walk etc etc
I felt like saying then stop fucking charging me 11% of my pay then, I can be referred to the specialist podiatry team who will advise me on things like insoles I already have those and do exercises already do exercises if I'm lucky I might get some new insoles, I need to have an x-ray, on the form she ticked no to possibly being pregnant :(
I did also ask rather sarcastically that if I do end up needing surgery will they do my knee and foot at the same time

waves to everyone :)

x posts joycep yay to MIL leaving I have heard the book is crap, although amused at how many men in Tecso's kept looking at it and popped it into his trolley, for the Mrs I'm sure

Ha ha joyce I'm afraid to say I've read it. It's badly written and about the message it gives young girls and lads about what equals good sex (ie orgasm via nipple touching yeah right) not to mention its message about relationships and women etc etc but I still read it then my mum saw it and took it and wanted to talk to me about it and told me my dad had read bits of it no no no all v wrong. Anyway I won't be reading two and three. You made me feel better about the folic acid thank you.

ladygee apologies for prying but do you have symptoms? And have you been drinking any booze?!! Might help my current glass slip down more guilt free if you have

joycep Stutters and chokes at the thought of MIL leaving you 50 Shades of Grey I really am sat here typing, mouth agape!

nelly Big laughs at shaking fists at fertility Gods over needing to do housework to win a baby. Is there no end to the unfairness??????? I bet the laydees who have a quick bunk up against Sainsbos bins then go on Jeremy Vile have all manner of crap under their beds.

at sharing out the Clomid spoils. Well Mrsd first dibbed further up the Fred and rabbit was second......

buzzy another rabbit story, once when I was a mere child (24) I was house hunting and accidentally, I kid you not, went to work that day without any knickers on and a knee length skirt. I decided that no one would notice, had a with friends about it but the house I viewed had two big Labradors that sussed me out and wouldn't leave me alone and kept pushing my skirt up. Mortifying. And the house was horrible.

rabbit dogs can be quite pesky and persistent I heard the book was poorly written and didn't send out a good message to girls

oooh pout I also dib a baybee if you have one spare

bloody hell Simon is back

Ha ha buzzy he's imprinted on you.

its Mr B's fault for giving him nuts !! Actually I think its Simon's cousin as his tail looks bushier, almost came indoors, he'll be sitting on the sofa watching the Olympics tomorrow :)

Quick phone post for rabbit - enjoy your glass of wine! I didn't stop drinking, just keeping to a couple of glasses/less than 6 units a week.

Symptoms wise I have sore boobs, need to pee a lot but mainly am ridiculously tired - though mr gee would say there's not much change there!

Ladygee - congratulations! I am delighted for you. Like Rabbit said - just think there may have been a mini Gee joining us for pizza 3 weeks a go when we met up. This is a hard earned win and you should enjoy every minute as much as you can. Baby asprin you say???? Did a Dr advise you to take this or did you decide? What is the reason for taking it - immune related?? Sorry for all the questions. Am putting on trainers and joining Joyce in a mad dash to the chemist for some baby asprin to guzzle. Oh, and how far along do you think you are? Do stay with us and rub your success off on us - yes please.

Rabbit -I am shocked by the inappropriate and unfounded informtation from the nurse post op . In one of your earlier posts today, you summed up anxiety and hospital stuff and ttc perfectly! Also sod the futile acid - it's in food stuff anyway and get thee a glass of wine pronto! Sarlat's orders.

Miss M -IUI straight to ISCI does seem like a masive jump. As per my earier posts - question, question, question - what is the rationale for this? And so sorry for your missing cat - any updates?

Princess - well done on the flat sale. You know what they say, new house, new........ And I like your positive watery feeling about an autumn BFP. This type of attitude is what my reflexologist is trying to install in me. I have noticed that you have been very positive overall and excited for the future ever since you went to that crazy wedding and got your mojo back. I like how you put your neck on the block and said you think it will happen some time soon. On that note, I am going to say something similar............ I have been secretly feeling that the end of this summer / early autumn around my September FET will bring good news or some sort of change........There - I have said it. And if I'm wrong......well, I'm wrong.....who cares, it's what I feel. And I won't get shot will I.

Lemon - sorry about the injecton troubles - any chance you could get one of those spongy flesh practise injection kits? I'm sure I have seen them at my clinic. Counselling is a great idea - it can only bring you some peace. Good on you!

Joyce - thanks for the wise words about crappy clinic staff. Such a shame that my recent experience doesn't come as a suprise. I was going to ask you - with your recent ? "near miss", did you do anthing differently this month? But overall, that is great about a 28 day cycle.

Euro - good luck for Friday. I know that stomach churning feeling very well before hospital visits. In fact I think it may be my twin, it and I can often be found together. But stay strong with your non-treatment route (I know you will). Was it Princess who said some non urgent medical things should just be left alone with a management plan only. E.g. you maybe just need yearly smears? And the idea of a private HCG test is great idea - thank you. Think I have missed the boat this month but will remember for the future. I had no idea there were such things as private GPs.

Doll - wow at you for giving emergency blood. Have and x

Nelly - cann't belive this HSG form filling debarcle. Coloured pens you say But hooray for EWCM!!!!

Pout - very excited about your three follie fandango. Pop Pop Pop!

Buzzy - sorry abou the hallux bulgus - that's a new one on me. So even non TTC Dr's are being obstructuve now I see. Flipping heck. Pester your Physio and Podiatry freinds for sneaky ways in to treatment / surgery. Sorry about the BFN.

Well I am delighted to hear that the baby carrots are potentially making baby humans. .

I have had a slight temp drop and 'stomach gurgles / gas' which for me means AF the witch head will be here in a few hours. Also got small red spots of blood mixed in with sticky cm from cervix. (sorry to be gross). I honestly don't think the flutters were period related as now my period is on its way they have dissapeared. This has been an odd 2WW and one of the 'longest' I have had for a long time. Had no cm barley in letual phase which is weird for me but I know I ovulated due to tests. Am going to ask maya massage lady what the flutters and other weird stuff mean - it could be changes due to this new treatment I guess. Having some wobbles, but still trying to be hopeful.

Buzzy I heart Simon the Squirrel! He knows where his breads buttered :) No hope of staying with my parents as they live on craggy Island (a.k.a. The Isle of Man). PIL live 10 miles away from us... we think that DH's old bedroom will become a temporary storage room for all the shit stuff we don't need whist we finish the house.

Pout possibly more than 3 follies? Don't calculate the child bens for 6, think of the potential telly coverage and fees that you could rack up You'll be besties with the dead behind the eyes willo-boobies before you know it! Very exciting. That finger has been saving up I can feel it in me waters, I can, I tell ya, it's a dead cert water jiggling a-going on

Joy and that's all. I am thoroughly grossed out. But woooo-hooo she's gone :)

Kitty congrats on the baby boy! That's super news!

Joy Nelly and anyone else talking under bed....oh gawd, ours is empty but filthy. Well it is empty now I've started packing. Under the bed? A dusty CBFM and instructions, a single stick for said CBFM, a hair band and some crusty contact lenses (DH's side). So, bed and CBFM are now on ebay. CBFM advert:

^Clearblue fertility monitor only used for one cycle!

I didn't keep the box, but the monitor is immaculate and it will be sent together with the instruction manual^

This is absolutely correct. I didn't mention that I am pregnant HA HA HA just that it was only used for a cycle. It was! I couldn't bear the bloody thing and used it during the weird cycle earlier this year. I'm sure the next person with fall preggo on their first cycle too.

Rabbit hahahahahaha at your skirt / dog story. My Grandad's dog was a full on crotch sniffer. Every bloody morning when you got downstairs in your pjs or nighty. Nose, fanjo and even some butting with said nose. Oh the indignity! The big O will a nipple rub... oh pur-lease. It's like the scene in that film with Josh Hartnett from years ago when he made a girl belt one out by tickling her with a feather....

Anyway, chez Princess, the action plan is in full swing. Several items on ebay, gumtree, facebook, clothes for storage already packed, shoes not required packed, I've already sold the TV and the TV table stand, I have a huge to do list for the new house that we did over dinner and a glass of wine and list of peeps to call tomorrow, i am back on team renovations, we have our friend whose a carpenter coming in to do all new door frames tomorrow, we have the plasterer in to finish off next week, we will have electric by the end of the weekend, if the plan works out, we will be in post holiday. PIL will be used for storage only. New suitcases and holiday clothes are ready to be packed tomorrow, I have one load of washing left to do.... it's amazing what you can do in 5 hours!!! This is the best distraction from the 2ww ever!

Right, back to it! No time to rest!!!!!!!!

princess bloody hell you are organised, good mothering skills there:-)

sarlat my GP recommended baby aspirin after my 2nd miscarriage, also Shehata recommends it along with vitamin D,

Hellooooooo! Long time no speak! Just back from a lovely and v relaxing holiday then few days in my hometown. Have tried to find WiFi in the odd place, so have skim read bits and bobs from the thread over the past 3 weeks, but my knowledge of what has been going on is pretty patchy!

However, have been absolutely deeeeeelighted to see your news ladyg- congratulations! I am so, so thrilled for you- what a hard won fight. I'm hoping this is going to be like Team GB- one gold won... then a snowball effect? PCOS induced sideburns are giving me a good likeness to Wiggo Have been flagging in shag week and feeling very defeatist but I shall go again tonight with gusto now. Brilliant news and I hope you have a very healthy 9 months! Great to hear from you too kitty- brilliant news about a blue one!

joy I was sorry to read about your AMH test but, as others have said, your follie response doesn't seem to reflect this. This might be really bad of me but I really wanted to stick a finger up to either your mum?/ MIL?/ both of them? with the comment made a while back. It shows that you DO know your body and you knew that you needed further investigations. That's not to say that it won't happen naturally (as ladyg has just proved) but that 'just forgetting about it' is not the answer. Are you taking antibs for the results of your period test?

Sorry not to catch up with anyone else- I promise (sure I've done this before) to try to keep up now that my holiday is over.

Not much to catch up with for me. Period on holiday was fine because of having a month off (I often have those womb flutters too, although not this month, interestingly). Have started taking metformin, although had a massive wobble about whether I should take it or just try to be as disciplined as princess with all things brown. Really beat myself up about the fact that I was probably taking a drug just because I have such shit willpower and can't consistently resist wine/ bread/ pasta etc. I have started to take it and weirdly I now want none of the above, particularly booze! Side effects haven't been too bad apart from a fair bit of nausea but have to up dose tomorrow, so we'll see.

Anyway, lots of love to all, sorry that everyone has been feeling so crap recently. Hopefully Ladyg's news will give us all a boost.

Sorry to skip all of your messages - will respond when i am calmer. Tomorrow is embryo transfer day (blasto stage) and am currently doing mental backflips about the putting back 1 versus 2 question. What do you think? (pointless question I know, am just asking the universe for guidance i think!). for those of you who know people with twins, how bad is it? Have managed to convince myself the 2 likeliest options are either put back 1 and get none, or put back 2 and get twins.