The BESH Fillies Are Under Starters Orders

[CaveMum]

Welcome to the 2.30 from Mumsnet Towers. The fillies have been groomed to within an inch of their lives and are raring to go.

Late entries for the race are required to locate and fill in the BESHtionnaire so that their form can be assessed.

Bring on the stallions!

That is what we speculated as we drive past a big pile!

cave, stumbling onto a baby dust thread? You know better than that! I flicked over after you posted and saw someone suggesting starting a thread for prolonged TTC. At cycle 3.

I've discoved BESH style chatter is both unwelcome and misunderstood on the sparkly freds. He he.

Oh that's shyte, Cavey.

I'm finding having no cycle at the moment as a result of the IVF drugs rather freeing. It's back to sff any way we fancy it. I don't automatically know all the time what cycle day I am on. If I didn't have a slight worry about my cycle coming back and a bigger worry about the fanny verrucae (as we have christened it), this would be wonderfully relaxing. I highly recomment taking a cycle or two off when it all gets too much for the sake of your sanity!

Oh I know I should know better by now sinky
The one that really confused me was the poster who had declared that she was on cycle 3, even though she'd only had 1 period since coming off the Pill. Something to do with there had been 3 lots of 28 days in that time and she "knew" she was ovulating. Er, that's not how it works. No one corrected her either

[being a real B.E.S.H. and blaming the droid for it]

I remember talking to one girl on MN about TTC and she said its just taking so long She was in the TWW and she got her BFP that cycle. It had been four months. I find saying how long I've been TTC on normal threads tends to lead to pity or just I keep me distance.

Now, now ladies. I have to say by month 4/5 of proper trying, I just knew something was wrong. Ok, we had been quite careless for a long while before that and I'd managed to rech 35 without an inkling of an unwanted pregnancy, but I just knew and was already starting to get quite disheartened about ttc.

Yup Cave, that's the same special soldier that was talking about 3 cycles as long term TTC. Sigh. I might have got involved, but it made my brain itch even reading the post so uncharacteristically stepped away from the fred

I have no droidal hormones to blame for my intolerance, but tend to not suffer fools gladly at any time.

So, back to menkulling madness, am cd10 after mammoth 77day cycles. Have been getting what looks suspiciously like ewcm since cd8. Early ovulation signs? It could be, right?

"the definition of insanity, doing the same thing repeatly and expecting a different result"..

Heh@definition of insanity. I think that makes us all completely loopy then!

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Yes, I guess some of these women are actually next generation BESH. Unless any of them has said "hun" in which case they can cock off. I might start a spreadsheet now to keep track of who needs a pointed rebuff later. Oh the meanness of me.

Of course you could be ovulating, sinkingflameofmenkul! Anyway, as I understood it, all bets are off when it comes to identifying ovulation in a PCOSer, so I should definitely go for it.

euro, you'll be relieved to hear that this evening's sechs didn't feature you at all :o

Arf at definition of insanity! Although don't we all attempt 'something different' every so often in the hope it will achieve a different outcome?!

Weirdly I got a letter from my GP saying although my smear was normal it showed thrush. I'm currently treating so I doubt there'll be too much sechsing here for now.

sinky definitely could be - get your nicest under crackers on to be taken off!

I think I knew by 5 months something wasn't right with us, although perhaps only because we weren't sechsing as much as I knew we needed to (despite MSB saying he wanted to make a baybee). I remember being upset at my friend's hen do when two girls were pregnant, which would have been us TTC for about 7 months. That was two years ago The two preggos are now diffed with #2 and the bride who started TTC on honeymoon has an 8 month old. Ah well.

No alcohol yesterday means less calories in, I've eaten well today and been for a 4k walk. I will get my BMI down!

I had always thought something might be wrong with my plumbing. I didn't get my first period until I was about 15 and they were so irregular, sometimes as little as 2 weeks between bleeds, that I asked to go on the Pill at 16.
Despite a nagging feeling that all might not be well, I didn't think to go and get checked out until we decided to start TTC. The 7 month gap between my first period after coming off the pill and the second kinda made me think my original gut instincts were right
[have to laugh or I'll cry. Again]

Fear not BESH, have gone against the laws of TTC and jumped GHJ Friday, sat and sun! and hoping for a double later on tonight

After having one period aged 14? Maybe 16? I didn't have any until I went on the pill at 19. Told then on my history that I most likely had PCOS and "would need help to have a baby". So I suppose I have had 13yrs to get used to the idea...

Oh, and Norf, I think it is our duty to compile said spreadsheet. Not to refuse entry, should it be requested, but to make sure they understand their foolishness.

Hon.

Sheesh.

Jump in with any comments

I was a late starter with periods at 15, had no idea there was supposed to be a 'pattern' to my periods and went on the pill at 16.....i stayed on it until I was 28, when I came off to TTC DS. Irregular cycles, my GP fobbed me off after I told her I stopped the pill in March and still hadn't had a period by mid June (it arrived in style the last weekend of June while I was at Glastonbury festival). I was offered one measly blood test in the Nov and was told all was well (i had no idea about day3/21 bloods) and then a BFP. After DS was born i settled to a regular cycle......
Back on the pill when I split from DS dad and back to the crappy long cycles when I came off to TTC this time. It was during these investigations that it transpired DS was somewhat of a miracle conception given the state of my insides.
The thing is if you're not TTC or suffering really badly healthwise with the droid you just don't think to go and get it checked out. There's no reason to is there?

I've got my fingers crossed for you girls that end up following me out of the BESH and onto the glories of morning sickness and sore boobs.

I buck the trend. I was a fairly early starter with my periods (12). Over about 24 years, they varied in length from a min of 3 weeks to a max of 6 weeks (and those are the extremes, experienced once or twice, it averaged 4-5 weeks), so not exactly regular but not typical PCOS pattern either with huge gaps between periods. They were however painful and heavy.

I had a lap when I was about 20 because they were painful and heavy. I didn't ask many questions so I am not sure whether they found endo but I do remember them muttering something about probably PCOS and to come back when I wanted kids.

I didn't get on with the Pill so didn't take it after the age of 21, by which point I'd tried it twice and felt awful both times. It was an effective contraceptive because I was fat and depressed with no libido while I was on it!

But I always had an inkling something was wrong. I thought the PCOS would be the problem, but now they are not sure that I have it and even if I have, I ovulate every cycle so it doesn't seem to be the problem.

I was a relatively early starter at 13y 6onths but late compared with family. Massively struggled with pain, flow and horrendously irregular (generally too frequent). I carried tampax with me at all times. I recall having a 14 day bleed then another AF just 2 weeks later . I went on the pill at 17 to settle it all down but by my mid 20s the synthetic hormones made my pms worse so I stopped. Then I was great - regular cycles, not too bad pms, not too heavy. Went on mini pill (started with migraines in mean time) in anticipation of married sechsing, not too bad on that. It took about 18onths after coming off that to get any regularity in cycles so I was convinced I had PCOS - also struggle with weight, especially round middle but that's been ruled out.

Currently munching on a high protein lunch with carrot and pepper sticks :) with my BMI challenge!

I started at 12, I think, and, like faith, had hideous cycles. 14 days on, 14 days off was not uncommon for me either. And I used to flood through a super plus tampon and a super plus pad in under 35 minutes (troublesome at school, as it necessitated leaving every lesson halfway through to deal with the abbatoir of my pants (and inner thighs etc). Thins settled down at university, but afterwards stretched into the 90-100 day cycles of recent years. In retrospect I was an absolute fool not to get things sorted well in advance of ttc...

You just don't think it'll be a problem though, do you? In retrospect my Mum had bad endo - really painful, really heavy AF (mine weren't quite as bad as yours norf) but she only had it dealt with in her 40s by getting a hysterectomy and she never had fertility issues - BFP after one month with DSis and two with me most people don't think it'll effect them...the ironic thing with us was I, and my GP, assumed it was me because of my irregular cycles and rubbish progesterone results (difficult to time when cycles are irregular) but actually it was the other half and looking back he'd been symptomatic the whole time! But he'd seen the GP and been diagnosed as depression/anxiety. If we hadn't been having TTC issues I doubt they'd have picked it up

I don't think there are any guarantees. I've a friend with endometriosis who TTC at 38 conceived in months. I started my periods the day before my 12th birthday and bled every 28 days since despite being allegedly too fat too ovulate, too drunk, too high, etc. Still took a year.

It does seem completely random. I was a really early starter, just 9 or 10 when I got my first period. They were heavy and painful - though not as bad as yours, norf, that sounds horrid. After going on the pill at 17 I had no idea what to expect when I came off at 30. I miss the pill! Have found it hard to deal with the mood swings and less libido since. But now am ovulating appropriately (just got day 2 bloods and they apparently look normal to my GP) without a sniff of a BFP since last year.

On a different tack, I have my first acu appt tomorrow. What do I wear? Will I have to take my clothes off? And how do I politely run screaming if she's playing whale music?

I have no knowledge of the needles shredders but congratulations on the good day 2 bloods! what's next?

For a short time only there is a photo of me from the wedding on my profile if you want a nose :)

Thanks faith! Next step is to wait until December . GP won't refer until then as the ectopic has reset the clock, so to speak. In the meantime I will experiment with da needles - if nothing else I hope it will help me feel more positive. Good work on the bmi-bashing, by the way!

Hello -

Loved your fred cave!

Missed loads, so apologies, are we on endo, periods and PCOS? I clearly don't have the former (I now know...), the middle one is reliably here every 24-29days and PCOS I don't have either. Although I do have dark hairs everywhere . In fact my main complaint post-lap now is the in-growing hairs around my lower stitches (I did an extra trim before it, so the scar would be low and invisible...)

All is much better in the lemon household. Brain power came back on Sat and I have done a full day's work today but less MNing time...

Hope the kickingguru will come and join us, she'd fit right in!

PS How are you today euro?

GRRR at GP, shred, I can't believe ectopics reset the clock, that seems wrong.

Btw faif are you only visible for friends? Can I be a friend?