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Just MC and ready to try again? Pregnant after MC and seeking somewhere safe to hide? Come on down to the mosh pit for some serious metalling and cake overindulgence

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WhyAlwaysBoris · 24/04/2012 20:36

Continuation of the last thread.

There's cake for scoffing, backs for patting, and screeching death metal for all your metalling moments. All welcome so come on in and get settled into the plush sofas!

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So settle into the mosh pit, we have special VIP area's for those on the 2WW, the new bumps metalling with segregated areas for the first/second/third trimesters and the club class cocktail bar for those who have just got AF and can get-pissed let loose for the first two weeks!

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InsomniaQueen · 23/05/2012 21:03

Sorry to hear your news boris - when I MC'd the Dr (private and abroad) gave me a chart which helped explain what was happening. Here is something quite similar:
www.hcglevelsinearlypregnancy.com/hcg-levels-chart/

HTH
Xx

JaffaSnaffle · 23/05/2012 21:10

Boris, I might have got the wrong end of the stick, but a home pg test would struggle to pick up 7 most are from 25, really sensitive ones are 10... If I am mistaken, I am sorry, but I am confused. Would like to call them some names tbh.

I think the results going down on their own is a good thing in terms of the mc starting because your body is recognising things are wrong but I am not sure.

leedy · 23/05/2012 21:16

I figured out what you meant, and thanks Jaffa!

boris, I'm so sorry to hear your news. Really not surprised you're feeling so upset even if you had a feeling something was wrong, and hopefully - as Jaffa said, it's a horrible feeling when you're just sort of in suspended animation waiting for SOMETHING to happen.

orangebowl · 23/05/2012 21:26

Hi ladies, so a couple of you lovelies directed me over here from a thread I started. bit of background (hopefully without boring you!)

I've got one DS age 3.3. I had Mmc in Dec 2010 at 10 wks. Then got pregnant again relatively soon after but again had a second MMC in June 2011. Since then had a nightmare not getting any periods. Went into hospital for a hysteroscopy as I convinced myself I had ashermans(!) ( I didn't thank god). Anyway consultant gave me some kind of progesterone tablets to basically force a period which did actually work and 4 weeks later i got another BFP (end Feb) alas! that wasnt to be and miscarried at 5 weeks.

now i am pregnant again- just 4 weeks preggers so early on- too scared to even work out my EDD as seems every time i do i need to forget the due date again soon after. I will read this thread and your stories and hope you dont mind me joining you

my next thing to do is rearrange my appointment with the gynaecologist as he didn't recommend i take baby asprin but so many consultants seem to recommend it and it seems to work for so many that i want to have a bit more of a discussion with him about it.

xx

icequeenkate · 23/05/2012 21:27

Boris, so sorry to hear your news.

From my googling in March to be considered 'not pregnant' I think you have to be below 5. To be pregnant, above 25. My EPU continued to do bloods until I reached 0. The levels dropped really quite quickly so I suspect you will start to mc soon? I suggest that if you don't in a few days, go back to the EPU and demand more than the response they gave you. As Jaffa says the only way to measure below 10(ish) is with bloods.

It sounds a bit trite to say, but well done on getting the signs changed. I had something similar with my mc (walking past very pg ladies happily waiting for their scans) and I had a shite rude consultant who made me feel like a piece of meat. I wrote in to complain but have heard nothing back. I'm feeling compelled to chase the matter further now. As you say, if it prevents another woman going through similar experiences at such an emotionally fragile time, it has to be worth a shot.

tasmaniandevilchaser · 23/05/2012 21:56

just popping in to say boris so sorry, you've had a rough time, hope it gets better soon. My due date for my MMC is close to yours (3rd June), I've been slowly sliding into unhappiness the closer it gets. It's not an easy time.

All the people with due dates in October are now sporting bumps and announcing their news Sad I keep thinking I should be due then too (if it wasn't for the ectopic). I had to sit in a meeting today with a pregnant lady who's due in October. I was struggling not to cry at one point having to take the minutes on everyone's pregnancy and maternity news. FFS!!!!

and manda congrats! I've been lurking for your news, glad he's a good sleeper (for now anyway! Wink)

hi to everyone else, sorry not to namecheck everyone, but glad to hear there is some good news on scans for leedy

Midgetm · 23/05/2012 22:02

Boris I am so so sorry. Sometimes life throws so much Shit and quite frankly it's not always evenly distributed. I agree that just leaving you isn't good enough. They should follow you up. Waiting out a mc for me is unacceptable when you have experienced losses like yours. I will come and duff them all up for you. Won't help anything but it will make me feel better.

leedy · 23/05/2012 22:02

Gah, managed to post last post without finishing it - meant to say hopefully you won't be waiting around for too long. And well done on getting the signs changed: it's a small thing but it can make a stressful time even more stressful.

Midgetm · 23/05/2012 22:06

school sorry you've had such a shit journey getting here but you are amongst people who know how you feel. Sorry not caught up with the whole day. Shit day at work. night night moshers

YikesHereWeGo · 23/05/2012 22:17

boris - shit shit shit shit shit. so sorry!

insomniaqueen - thank you for the link about hcg levels, very helpful

It would have been my 12 week scan today if I hadn't mc'd two weeks ago :( On the one hand I'm obviously v sad that I'm not jumping for joy today at being able to spread good news; on the other hand I'm relieved that I didn't have to wait until today to find out the baby had died.

Anyway, I've got a new game now, charting my daily temperature etc. Does anyone know what 'normal' temperature range before/after ovulating is? Or is there no such thing? I still haven't managed to find out for sure whether you can ovulate before HCG dropping to zero. Insomniaqueen's link seems to suggest that you can, but it's not totally clear.

mumtum - how did it all go? how are you?

MrsPear · 23/05/2012 22:27

Evening everyone boris i am sorry for another loss; i agree that the Mayday is treating you very badly.

I am afraid it has brought back horrible memories of being made to feel like i am mad by the medical establishment. I hope it is all over very soon.

Welcome to another newbie school the ladies on here are wonderful; everyone understands

NoMoreMarbles · 23/05/2012 22:42

evening ladiesSmile

borisSad so sorry the results were not goodSad at my 9wk MC i was told my levels were 8 and that meant i was no longer considered 'pregnant'!(she actually asked me whether i had actually had a BFP or did i just think i might be pregHmm) isnt it funny how advice varies from trust to trust. that preg had never developed further than the 4-5 week stage and i had already started to spot by then too... funnily enough though that MC was the least physically painful(mentally though...another story) i really hope that you are ok (aside from the emotional awfulness that is) {{{{{hugs}}}}

school good to see you over hereSmile sorry about your MCsSad and congrats on the BFPSmile i hope you find this thread as wondrous as i doSmile

mumtum i hope today went well

nowt new here...im about CD15 ish and sexually harrassing my DH on a regular basisWink not in the kitchen thoughGrin

hope everyone is doing well and sorry for not namechecking everyone...

StateofConfusion · 23/05/2012 23:23

So sorry boris what total shit, I'm glad you got those signs sorted.

YikesHereWeGo · 24/05/2012 07:54

Morning all? Another sunny day - yippee :o

Off to hospital this morning for my do-I-need-an-eprc scan. Fingers crossed the answer will be no. Eek.
Hope you all have a lovely day :)

MumTumWanted · 24/05/2012 08:00

Morning ladies

Just a quick one
Went in at 7.30 yesterday pessaries at 11.30 aftwr not seeing a single medical professional till 11am Hmmthough i was lucky enough to be in a private 1 bed sideroom maybe thats why they forgot about me and went down at 12 didn't get back from recovery until 5 major high temp. Causing issues. Then not home till 8 pm considering I was told it was day stay and would be in and out in 4 hours not sure how that works!

Pain is more than I expected somehow hurts to pee and walk and the car journey home most unpleasant and I feel sore and swollen. Only time I've ever gone to hospital in no pain and come out worse Confused

But I'm home now and dh is doing a sterling job of treating me as though I need wrapping in cotton wool looking after me and my dd

Will try and catch up later but painkillers making me very drowsy

Just to say though boris I am so sorry about your Hcg levels look after yourself Hun xxx

WhyAlwaysBoris · 24/05/2012 08:53

Mumtum i'm so glad you are home and at least it is over. Sounds like a truly horrid day. I hope the pain and discomfort pass really quickly.

Yikes fingers indeed crossed for your scan.

Quick question, sorry if it is daft- can i use tampons during the MC- bought some super duper would fit an elepahnt ones last night but then read somewhere on a board you aren't supposed to use them- is this true? Don't relish having to use pads only but if necessary obviously i will- feel a bit daft i don't know the answer but my other MC was labour and delivery so know idea what i'm doing.

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BlueCrane · 24/05/2012 08:53

Morning all...

mumtum glad your DH is looking after you well. So sorry it turned out to be such a long day and hopefully the pain will ease v soon.

boris gutted about your hcg results Sad hope you can get some closure soon.

Well...it looks as though mini-crane might be on the move!?!? Had a show yesterday evening and contractions started at 4:30am this morning...now every 4mins ish. Didn't actually get any sleep at all last night which is a tad frustrating given the amount of hard work (hopefully) ahead today!! Will be back to let you know how I get on as soon as I can...not rung hospital yet as waiting to get to the magic 3 in 10min point! If it does all happen today/tomorrow then it also means that I miss my MMC scan discovery anniversary (which is on Saturday).

BlueCrane · 24/05/2012 08:54

PS boris pads only I'm afraid due to risk of infection I think...have you started bleeding or just getting organised?

WhyAlwaysBoris · 24/05/2012 08:54

How fantastic! GOOD LUCK BLUE :)

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WhyAlwaysBoris · 24/05/2012 08:56

Thanks, no bleeding yet, just getting organised in case it starts at work today. You are so amazing to reply when you have other things to do today!! Hope it goes brilliantly, can't wait to hear your happy announcement.

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MarthasHarbour · 24/05/2012 09:41

oh boris i am so very sorry, i cant believe how Croydon are treating you but i just want to give you a and hope that you are getting some rest. i would second not using tampons, hideous i know but i would err on the side of caution. so very very very sorry Sad

icequeenkate i like the term 'grunge' it perfectly sums up how it has been! i should have worn DH's faded Nirvana tshirt over the last few days eh?? Wink

mumtum i hope you too are getting lots of rest, glad it went 'relatively' smoothly (these things never do!)

oh and boris small victories on the trust changing the signs! well done!

gothinrecovery · 24/05/2012 10:14

Just found this thread. I MC'd on Tuesday at 7 weeks aged 42, first confirmed pregnancy although had suspected (much earlier) MC in October last year.

Just wanted to ask what is the WTF cycle?

Unlikely to be on here much as all still too raw at the moment but was curious.

pebspop · 24/05/2012 10:58

omg! someone is actually doing a pregnancy annoucement in my office now. arrgghh! fuck. luckily she doesnt work in here.

everyone is talking about it. eeekkk. i will just pretend to work on here!

goth WTF cycle is the name for the first cycle while you are waiting for AF to return. anything can (and does) happen. crazy spotting, ov or no ov, early/late af you may get pg again or maybe not.

the pg one has gone now - phew!

boris hope things get sorted for you soon.

mumtum sorry to hear you erpc didn't go as well as expected. it's all over now though. hope you have a fast recovery and look after yourself.

the AF that never was has gone now. i googled and a lot of people seemed to have bleeding when ov was due in first proper cycle after mc. maybe thats what i have got.

MandaHugNKiss · 24/05/2012 11:04

Just quickly as DS1 & 2 do indeed have measles - it's pretty grim here at MandaTowers. Last night DS2 woke every hour coughing and crying (with 39.5 temp) so I had to go from the living room and baby to settle him... with new baby waking three times for a feed (luckily not at same time as DS2 needed me but itmeans Ihave had less than Very Little sleep).

mumtum And now the healing can begin Even if it doesn't actually feel like it just now. I was very sore the day after my erpc -thighs and bottom of ribs were agony... but I was in theatre for 2 hours vs the usual 20 mins and must have been from being in an unnatural position (in stirrups) for so long. It all improved quickly though so heres hoping you find the same.

boris So sorry, my lovely. In your sadness I hope you won't lose sight of what an achievement it was gettng those signs changed. I know it'll be small comfort right now, but good on you, lady. As your levels are falling, I would imagine you would start to bleed fairly soon but the hospital are still dishing out pretty crap advice. Angry

blue !! Today you'll have a baby! Or at the latest tomorrow... can't wait to hear the flavour Grin Wishing you a breeze of a birth (they happen! I've had them!). Wow, I was in your shoes this time last week

Love to everyone/welcome to newbies. Back at some point...

PieMistress · 24/05/2012 11:10

Quickly jumps on to wish blue lots and lots of luck and look forward to an announcement :) :) :)