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MarthasHarbour · 07/02/2012 11:30

There's cake for scoffing, backs for patting, and screeching death metal for all your METALLING moments. All welcome!

Our last thread reached 1000 posts so i hope you have all found your way here! I have steaming hot Brew chocolate croissants (or as my colleague said 'chocolate pasties'), blueberry muffins, grapefruit segments and hot buttered toast for brekkie!

Settle into the mosh pit, we have special VIP area's for those on the 2WW, the new bumps metalling with segregated areas for the first/second/third trimesters and the club class cocktail bar for those who have just got AF and can get-pissed let loose for the first two weeks!

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Moominsarescary · 14/02/2012 09:15

Congratulations pebs x

pebspop · 14/02/2012 09:23

thanks for the congrats girls. it was a faint line but definatly there. i am just going to see what happens. all the spotting and uti last week hasn't really got me off to a good start but maybe thats ok. the good starts never worked out anyway.

i will be testing again tomorrow with fmu just to make sure the line is darker.

i have started taking my asprin and will ring my consultant on monday to arrange the next steps.

marbles my 20 week mc was caused by my placenta being full of blood clots so nothing could get through to the baby. the consultant is hoping the blood thining stuff will sort that out this time. i am not sure what caused my 12 week mc but it was probably the same thing.

pebspop · 14/02/2012 09:27

if my last af started on 15 jan how many weeks/days am i?

MarthasHarbour · 14/02/2012 09:41

Waves to everyone, sorry have been a bit AWOL this weekend, have had a busy one, my mother even rang me at work yesterday to see if i was still alive, seriously that is what she asked, i wouldnt care but i had a long telephone conversation with her on Friday Hmm prob because i didnt respond to her text about the football on Saturday - she knows i couldnt give a flying fuck about football Angry, then she heard about the crash on the M6 on Sunday and knew that we had been visiting family in Cumbria so she thought we were in the crash (although why it took her almost a day to ring me to find out - nobody knows Hmm)

Some of the longer serving posters will know about my mother's irrational outbursts, she will either not speak to me for two weeks as she is too busy or have a fecking coronary if i dont speak to her everyday. I just watched Great Expectations at the weekend (the Gillian Anderson one) and i swear to god that Miss Havisham is a morph of my sister and mother.......

Jeeezuz

Everyone ok? Wink Grin

Sorry about that ladies, you know i like to have a rant about my mother every so often!!

Just want to say a huge congrats to pebs that is fantastic news!

Manda your dinner date sounds fabulous, the meal sounded amazing and what fantastic service, although i should blardy well think so after Basil Fawlty's crazy phonecall to you last week!

Cant catch up with everyone yet but i can see we have had a fraught weekend, hope everyone is feeling a little brigher this week. Sorry for not fully namechecking but i will try and catch up properly today.

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MarthasHarbour · 14/02/2012 09:42

4+2 pebs Smile

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MarthasHarbour · 14/02/2012 09:45

sorry when i say 'fraught' i didnt quite mean it like that IYSWIM... as i say i hope everyone feeling a little better this week

BTW i have missed the OV window this week for two reasons, one reason is that i have my smear test on Thursday and i didnt want to theoretically be pregnant and then jeopardise it, also your cervix changes when pg, the nurse said they dont get an effective test.

Secondly we just needed a break after all the emotional turmoil of the last few months, i have to say that it is most refreshing just having a month off, i know that we will be back shagging on the wagon next month, but it is good to know i can have a guilt free drink and some fully loaded coffee in the 2WW

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MandaHugNKiss · 14/02/2012 09:59

Woohoo pebs ! Fantastic news, and as far says, they know what happened last time (and probably the time before too) so it should follow with the treatment that you won't need to worry that issue is gonna hit you again. And, yup, I make you 4+2, too... although obviously as you didn't get your positive opk you didn't ovulate Grin That is to say we don't know when you ovulated, so once you get scanned it may change by a couple o' days.

marff Muvvers, eh? Can't exist without 'em, can't bear them... no, wait, that's not the phrase. But it applies to me, too, often, so much sympathy!

pebspop · 14/02/2012 10:28

i don't know what happened to my smiley face - those opks weren't a total waste though as we kept swi'ing everyday just in case! i think they must have done the trick, even without the smiley face. i didn't swi after cd20 as i was on the spa break, then got the uti so i must have ov'd earlier than usual this month. when i was temping it seemed to be around cd21.

thanks for calulating my weeks+days. i will keep a track of it now.

kalidasa · 14/02/2012 10:35

I haven't read the whole thread but congrats to pebs!

Rejoining this thread as I'm finding this month hard. I had a v. early miscarriage last month (4w5d) and I'm pretty sure I ovulated normally just a couple of weeks later. We didn't "try" quite as doggedly (!) as the month before, but we definitely had sex at the right time.

I'm now 12 dpo and I just feel really stressed about it all. My temps are high but I feel really gloomy about it, I don't feel well, have pre-period cramps and I had the tiniest amount of spotting - just a transient light brown stain - a couple of days ago. I know all these could be good signs too I'm just not really coping with the uncertainty very well! I have long luteal phases (often 15 or 16 days) so even if my period doesn't appear for another four days it still won't be proof of anything. Last month I only got a (faint) positive on 17 dpo so I'm not sure there's much point testing at the moment.

Agh! Just wanted to stress about it. Sorry.

WhyAlwaysBoris · 14/02/2012 10:56

pebs congratulations!! Smile

Kalidasa sending you a hug over the ether....

I've had a bit of a panic this morning...i've got a big family do this weekend, first time i've seen all the extended lot since christmas when they were all congratulating me over the pregnancy....feel so shit about it and really self conscious. Plus the amount of pie eaten in RL (not to mention the stuff on the thread) means that practically nothing fits me which doesn't help...

Can someone please tell me about this B100 stuff.....I feel left out and irrationally believe that having some would solve all my problems.

Probably shouldn't be let out of the house on my own today....

BlueCrane · 14/02/2012 11:03

Morning all

So sorry for my awol-ness, fell off the thread twice and had to come and find you again Blush but couldn't not pop in to say huge congrats to pebs fab news!!

Sorry to hear of rough weekends for all...hope the new week and Valentine's Day brings some more smiles (and SWI for those at the right time Wink )

I had a 'fun' afternoon in triage last week with suspected pre-eclampsia but thankfully the 'symptoms' weren't proven conclusive and if anything my blood pressure is on the low side so v unlikely to get PE but that does at least seem to explain my super light headedness in the mornings and I seem to have a return of feeling super queasy in the mornings too (sorry marthas partly explains my lack of breakfast provision recently!) at 25 weeks today I guess my body is also trying to adjust to the next batch of crazy hormones for the 3rd trimester Shock can't believe it's that time already!

I seem to have lost track a bit for a full name check catch up but will try and pay more attention in the coming days!!

BlueCrane · 14/02/2012 11:06

boris x-post not an easy weekend coming up for you! I also consumed a large amount of cake post-MC which didn't help my emotional well-being one bit as I just felt hideous in all my clothes Blush people are very gracious but it still doesn't help inside Is there any way that you could treat yourself to a new outfit which you do feel good in for the weekend? (and ignore the size labels when you go to get it...I even bought some clothes and then cut out the labels so I didn't have to see them again!!)

MarthasHarbour · 14/02/2012 11:07

manda get back over here and talk to boris about Bvits - i take them but haven't got a clue why i-only take them as manda bullied me into it-she is my dealer you see

boris you just need to keep that good old British stiff upper lip it might be a bit awkward but then maybe they might not refer to it at all, which could be a good thing. I would go with the flow, if you want to talk about it then just bloody talk about it, i was so grateful last year to my mums friend who just came out with it and asked how i was feeling when she could see that my sister was walking on eggshells, she was so matter of fact that i could have hugged her.

and yep manda muvva's - see mine can be lovely, she really can, sometimes she is so sincere and heartfelt then she comes out with something ridiculous (i will never forget after my CP 'well it is just a late period dear') but then last month she wished for us to have a baby this year, or whatever we decided we wanted as long as we were happy..... Confused

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MarthasHarbour · 14/02/2012 11:12

oh here she comes i am sorry but trips to A&E and morning sickness is no excuse for breakfast tardiness! Wink Oo but thanks for the toast and nutella - fine start to shrove tuesday!

good to hear from you blue i too am Shock that you are in the 3rd trimester, doesnt time go so quickly!! Hope the PE was just a false alarm.

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whatsoever · 14/02/2012 11:19

Adding myself to the stats - and congrats on the BFP Pebs Smile

BFPs and beyond...
Poppyjen: EDD 03.09.12 (so coming up for 11 weeks now shock ), 1 DS (almost 2) MC in May '11 at 6/7 weeks, CP1 August '11, CP2 November '11.
Newtonupontheheath DS 16mo, mmc Nov 11 @11 weeks (8+6) currently7+3 with dc2
PieMistress EDD 28.06.12 (20+5) with DC2, 1 DS (25mo), MC May 11 @ 7w
Whatsoever EDD 11.11.12 with 1st. MMC in May 11 (at 12 weeks, occurred at 8/9 weeks) currently 5+5

MissCoffeeNWine · 14/02/2012 11:42

Stats thread

MandaHugNKiss · 14/02/2012 12:34

Stats thread deffo a good idea, missC - not sure how I missed your post on the previous page but I did! I'll head over there to add myself.

Marff lies! I am not a dealer! by the way, you still owe me for the last fix and if you don't pay by sundown the heavies will be 'round, right?

In all seriousness I am an advocate of high dose B vits, and despite there being no 'official' studies (because there's no money to be made from vits for a pharmceutical company, see?) here's a 0-60 of why:

High dose b vits have a positive effect on the following: lengthening luetal phases that are short, or on the shorter side of normal. Good because it gives any potential baby the time it needs to implant before getting flushed away by af turning up too early. They also seem to balance the cycle more generally - so if you O on the late side, you may find this moves forward by a few days.

Hair, nails and skin will probably improve too.

There are a couple of studies with IVF patients that find if the women take high dose b vits in the follicular stage of their cycle that they produce 'better' eggs. With ivf, when the eggs are retrieved, they are graded, with only the best ones being used for treatment (although if a woman only gets fair eggs they may go ahead with those anyway...) I find this fascinating and to me it's a bit of a no-brainer that if you can improve the quality of your eggs (and therefore improve your chances of a outcome) with a simple vitamin pill then why wouldn't you?!

Many people (there are men that take high dose b vits too) report that they just inherently feel better - they apparently have a positive effect on low-grade depression and stress. Let's face it, most of us suffer to some degree with both following a loss and so potentially reducing the effect of that, again, can only be good (especially wrt ttc again - stress and/or depression doesn't usually lead to much swi, right? And can affect your cycle negatively too, usually with delayed O or no O at all).

As I say, this 'evidence' is very much anecdotal (and my own experience... plus just about everyone I've pushed to recommended take them seems to have a positive story to tell) but here's the kicker: In the face of so much positive anecdotal evidence if it were a herb/medicine/something with 'danger' attached then you'd think carefully... but because your body will take massive doses of B vits before it shows any sign of 'overdose' even the 'high dose' (compared to rda) is in no way dangerous. B vits are water soluable and so whatever your body doesn't utilise will be pee'd out (and give you bright yellow/neon wee - don't worry, you're not suddenly radioactive, it's absolutely fine!).

So, that's about it, in a nutshell. No need to take my word for it, there are lots of stories on t'net if you wanna research further Smile

Oh, apart from where to buy. I've always gotten mine from holland and barret - they often have an offer on, on one or the other two bottles they sell (one with fifty capsules, the other with one hundred).

Happy now, marff? and PAY UP!

MissCoffeeNWine · 14/02/2012 13:49

martha I thought shrove tuesday was next week? Don't want to be having a problem with premature pancakes now do we? Wink

farfallarocks · 14/02/2012 14:24

kalidasa totally normal to be feeling the way you are and wanting to be preggers again straight away, great that you have high temps. Why don;t you POAS?

MARBLES I just saw your stats on the other thread, 5/6 CPs!! You poor thing. I am sorry if I missed this but have you had some tests done?

boris you poor thing, can you get your DH on board so he can steer any awquard questions?

NoMoreMarbles · 14/02/2012 14:55

afternoonGrin

how has everyone's valentines day been? i was woken up with a present, card and balloon from DH and DD this morning before work

kalidasa · 14/02/2012 15:02

Thanks farfalla and others for kindness! I'm working at home today (recipe for distracted disaster!) so did a test just now but it is definitely negative. I feel very pre-period-y anyway so I think we're out this month. DP will be really disappointed - he thought it was promising as I've been feeling unwell in the same way as I did last month.

Right, must do some work now (meant to be speaking at a conference tomorrow and have not written the paper). But will add myself to the stats list first. Thanks for the support.

NoMoreMarbles · 14/02/2012 15:26

farfalla i have Systemic Lupus Erythematosis (SLE) which is the most likely "reason" for my losses. i am under Mr Farqharrson in LWH and they have been brilliant but cant do much until i get to 6 weeks preg and i will then be on heparin until 37 weeks and i am on 75mg asprin for life because of the symptoms that come with the condition! im convinced that my weight has alot to do with my early losses (im about 4 stone O/W) and i have an U/A thyroid that was Dx following DDs birth (i am an auto-immune nightmare!!) so basically my chances of a sucessful preg is slim (75-80% chance of MC without treatment 50/50 with) and i have been plodding along for 4.5 years (and rambling an AWFUL LOT!) wowee that was MEMEMEBlush

FrozenNorthPole · 14/02/2012 15:28

Diving in to say congrats to Peps - sending sticky thoughts Grin

farfallarocks · 14/02/2012 15:30

Oh marbles you poor thing! FX for you. I will also be on heparin from BFP but another reason - impaired fibrogynic response or my body does not break down clots quickly enough, seems like there are a few of us in this situation. My losses are also early doors, so frustrating as I am worried that by the time I can start treatment its already too late and the pregnancy is failing. Hmmmmm. Shall wait and see and hope for that sticky bean :)

pippilongsmurfing · 14/02/2012 15:31

Afternoon Ladies, I'm newish to the Conception board and am TTC#1 after mcing x 3.

Reason for MC's has been discovered and am now on Metformin and have taken my first ever lot of Clomid this cycle.

Congrats to the BFP'ers, and babydust to the rest of us Grin