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[MarthasHarbour]

There's cake for scoffing, backs for patting, and screeching death metal for all your METALLING moments. All welcome!

Our last thread reached 1000 posts so i hope you have all found your way here! I have steaming hot chocolate croissants (or as my colleague said 'chocolate pasties'), blueberry muffins, grapefruit segments and hot buttered toast for brekkie!

Settle into the mosh pit, we have special VIP area's for those on the 2WW, the new bumps metalling with segregated areas for the first/second/third trimesters and the club class cocktail bar for those who have just got AF and can get-pissed let loose for the first two weeks!

Evening ladies

My eye is better now but still got blurred vision in it I'm taking myself the opticians this week at some point though so should be sorted soon.

fairy welcome so sorry about your MCs I have been TTC%232 for 4.5 years so I get it IYSWIM I hope your stay on the TTC couch isn't a long one

Hope everyone has had a super sunday

Just popping it to say good evening.

I am home now, had a lovely time, the show was great!
I feel very sicky now and a bit tearful so I think I am going to have an early night, I have exams at college tomorrow morning.

I hope everyone is taking it easy and looking after themselves. :)

Thanks for the cake. Bloody s**t aint it - all those years of trying not to get pg with various ex's & now with DH its taking forever. I have PCOS but recent Lap & dye proved the cysts are gone & everything is well exceptn slight kink in left ovary.

I just feel like there is a major lack of support from the medical profession!

Hope your vision is sorted soon!

Evening all,

Been the longest day in history as my symptoms full throttle. Can't help but rejoice in this as I still feel deep down this one is a sticker. Bloody better be right.

Welcome fairy. Sorry you made it over here but it's a good place to be for tea, cake and sympathy.

Great story martha its lovely how virtual strangers can touch your life so briefly but deeply.

IQ I read the reviews on the contraception book. Genius.

Next scan Thursday. Manageable time to be a mentalist, even for me. It does feel like time has reversed though. Problem with being so obsessed with conception is that when you know about it from sperm meets eggs it feels like you've been pregnant for years. Not even 8 weeks yet! I'm off to pass out with yoghurt on my chin (that is because I am too slovenly to clean myself not because of any hidden innuendo. Sleep tight one and all x

martha that was a lovely story

tits hope your not so tearful today

Welcome to honey sorry you found your way here to but these ladies are all lovely I lurk more than post but it's just do supportive knowing that other ladies out there understand the worry and metalling x

Myself? 6 dpo and I've already poas. Someone please slap me!!! Needless to say bfn!! But I'm symptom spotting I really am deluded but I'm sure my boobs are tingling ....

honeywhere did that come from damn phone ! I meant fairy

And midget yay for the reassuring symptoms but sorry u suffering x

Hello ladies, sorry about huge aromatherapy metal. Have calmed down a lot now, and think a lot of my strong physical reaction to it was down to my pregnant nose. I got stuck in a traffic jam with my mum yesterday and her perfume made me really nauseous. I was like a dog with the window down trying to breathe in fresh air.

I did a cb digi this morning for the first time in ages, at 5+3, and I got 3+. It came up within a minute, so feeling at least this one is not going to be like my low hcg miscarriage. It reads 3+ once levels are over at 2000, well my highest score in January was 760 or something. Trying to be a little bit cheered by this.

Hello Fairy, welcome to the thread.

martha, hope you are ok as you approach your anniversary. I found your story very moving.

midgetm hope you can keep a lid on the metalling this week as your scan approaches.

marbles hope you get appointment early in the week for your eye.

tas, you are in my thoughts as ever. I think you are being very strong and wise, making sure you are out and about every day.

Hello to everyone I have missed.

< lays out breakfast tray with lots of fruit juice, yoghurts, (midgetm these are for you), cereals, hot cross buns and scrambled eggs.>

well ladies this is the week i am trying not to dwell on it as it is DH's birthday tomorrow and i want it to be special for him. i think seeing 'N' at the weekend actually helped me move on (bizarre that i saw her almost a year to the day since we met ) I am looking forward to a nice day with DH tomorrow, lunch in a swanky gastropub followed by a walk round Dunham Massey National Trust park.

This is it - the anniversary means i need to move on

Gotta dash as am in a meeting in a bit but just wante dto say IQ i am holding your hand sister!

Will come on for a full catch up later. Oh btw i was metalling full throttle last night, felt nauseous and was prodding my boobies - am only CD17

Only just got up (DS2 didn't go to sleep until midnight and so slept in and naturally I slept in with him...) and only taken a sip[ of my coffee so ti won't be a full on namecheck but just this:

marff How beautiful. That firstly there were 'strangers' in your time of need who were a comfort and that you should then meet one of them again as the difficult first anniversary approaches. I swing wildly between believing in 'fate' and not but when you hear stuff like this, when you feel stuff like this, it's hard to not believe the 'universe' (or if you have faith, the G Man) has a plan for us and that things really do happen for a reason. Even if it's only a happy coincidence, serendipity, then that in itself is lovely and I'm so happy you got to have one of 'those' moments

For the DPO metallers, remember this: you're not imagining symptoms, even if it's only a couple of days past ovulation, because many of the very early pregnancy symptoms we feel are down to increased progesterone - and right after O progesterone shoots up whether you are pregnant or not so you most likely WILL notice something just from that as when ttc we become more acutely aware of our bodies and what they're doing.

I don't mean that as a doom-mongering 'you silly cows, of course you're gonna get symptoms, it doesn't mean jack' I mean it as a 'yes, you ARE getting symptoms so don't feel like a crazy woman because it's too 'early' - but it may just be the progesterone - although I HOPE it's not!'

Innyhoo. Coffee. And the hope today is a better day - poor DS2 spent most of yesterday crying. He's full of cold again and was miserable all day long. Seems brighter today even though there is still plenty of snot about (his, not mine!)

i know what you mean manda i am not an advocate of the G-Man but i do think there is some sort of Karma out there, and in a weird sort of way i knew i would bump into her one day so i could say thank you (is it odd for me to say i knew i would bump into her in that particular Sainsbo's - really i did )

it has happened to me before; 10 years ago when i moved darn sarf after a relationship break up i had this image of a bloke i would meet and fall in love with, he was younger than me, had shaggy dark hair, wore a pale blue tshirt and we would be part of a group of friends who used to meet in a pub, he would also be into indie music and play guitar. Now i dismissed this notion as just wishful thinking as that is the type of bloke i go for anyway.

Well, me and DH met 6 months after i moved down there, but he was just part of our circle of friends for 2 years before we got together, and anyway he was , why did it never click when i noted the shaggy dark hair, the love of indie music and guitars yada yada, it was only when i bumped into him walking down the street one sunny day with his favourit pale blue tshirt on when the penny dropped......

i-am a witch donchaknow?

i meant to say 'anyway he was younger than me'..... totally lost the irony of the post there now!

manda hope DS gets better today, colds in toddlers is rubbish, my DS still wont blow his nose, just wipes it with his sleeve.....

hello everyone!

i am absolutley knackered today. this early pg malarkey really takes it out of you doesn't it? can't wait to get home and get back in bed!

got my next scan on thursday so looking forward to it a little bit. hoping everything is still ok but feeling like i am in a safe bit of pg (nothing has gone wrong for me before 12 weeks in the past).

i have a bit of tummy ache today but it just feels a bit stretchy. i seem to get pain below my ribs where my diapragm(if thats the right word - remember it from school but dh looked at me strange when i said it!) is, i have had it in all my pg's so far. does anyone else get it?

the spotting is still there. had to wear a liner a couple of days so not sure if they are going to give me my injections or not on thursday. i think i am seeing my consultant anyway so that will be good. if everything is ok i am going to sort out a midwife as well.

thanks manda for the stiff talking, you are right, I have had good news, I should be more upbeat! Happy birthday to your DS and mad's DS too!

Lovely story mystic martha

You sound like you're holding up well tas hope you're ok.

Glad you're ok pebs I know what you mean about the safe bit (hence my current metalling!) I had needling pain in that place between 8-10 weeks or so, I'd forgotten. Very sudden things they were.

Hope you get some answers soon fairy

Hope you are resting up and enjoying the peace IQ no seriously all the doom mongers lie, it's so much easier looking after a newborn than it is being heavily pregnant and you get so much more sleep! Honest. Can't wait for mini-IQ news!

As for me, I'm 14 weeks. So that's the second trimester well and truly here. What it means for me is I can't call EPU any more , if I start with problems now it's into the mat unit and if I MC again, it's labour ward. Again. Makes a difference! It also means that this pregnancy has outlasted my first. Now all it needs to do is outlast mini-toe, though I would live without it outlasting DD's Being positive - no sign of any problems at all so far apart from my constant paranoia over watery discharge (god I HATE that word, makes me want to vom) which is very likely just my own metalling. Had a horrific ramping up of symptoms this week. Aren't they supposed to be tailing off? Everything has gotten worse! Anyone so much as brushes a boob and they'll get their heads bitten off, and I seem to be walking like John Wayne oh the glamour!

pebs, I got that below-ribs pain when I was pg with DS. V annoying.

I am having to talk myself down from being convinced that This Month Is It, Sure Didn't We Do It When The Magic Wee Stick Told Us To, as I know I am setting myself up for disappointment if it doesn't work out. Also small son informed me that I was "going to have a baby in my belly", in manner of Twilight Zone psychic child, except probably because his nursery teacher is pregnant and we had just read a story where a little rabbit got a baby brother.

Hi all

Glad your eye is feeling better marbles and congrats MissC - you are at trimester 2!

Now I need to wallow in sadness for a little while (sorry).

I am feeling generally depressed today. I am convinced that this is not going to work out and that the only benefit to it all will be that when it all goes wrong the Dr will at least have to admitI was properly pregnant :(. I shouldn't feel like this but I just cannot shake this misery. I am counting the days and keep wanting to POAS - but what I really want is for a CB Digi to tell me 3+ and I am too terrified to use one (partly because I should wait a bit longer and partly because if it does not get to 3+ I know it will liekly be the beginning of the end.

Mum you can call me honey if you like lol!

Thank you all for the warm welcome!

tiago, how far on are you? Have you got any early scans or hcg bloods booked? I know the cb digis are the devil's work, but I am a fellow addict. Sorry you are having a hard time. I hope it is all just post mc pessimism, rather than something to worry about. X

6 weeks tomorrow. I've been trying to work out if I should book an early scan for 25 march which is the earliest I can get. But I just don't know. It's before my official booking appointment so if it has all gone wrong again I would have to self refer to the hospital again and it would all be a repeat like last time. TBH I'm actually alarming myself with how down I feel atm.

I know cb digis would have been better never to have been invented - but since they exist I just can't stop obsessing about them.

Ah, tiago of course you're not skipping through the flowers, smiling serenely. Doesn't mean that it won't actually work out this time! I think you need to take some action because limbo is in many ways worse than even bad news. So. You say you're almost 6 weeks - are you pretty sure of your dates? I can't rememner if you chart/use opks/got a positive test before/around the time af was due (suggesting your lmp dates are correct, give or take a few days).

If you're pretty sure then, as much as they ARE the devils work, cb digi w/indicator may be, in the short term, an idea. Especially as they're in your obsessions thoughts anyway.

Then go from there...?

hi fairygodmother, sorry you have to join us, but you're in good company here.

tits hope your exams went well and you're feeling ok (well with lots of lovely pg symptoms)

marbles hope your eye is better

midget hope you're ok, it's good your instinct tells you this one is a sticker. When I had my MMC I had a sudden flash around 5 weeks where a thought popped unbidden into my head "Im going to have a mc". I was very surprised and ignored it as I felt ok, but it was true.

mumtum fingers crossed this month is lucky for you, there seems to be a lot of BFPs around this thread

jaffa thanks for your kind words, glad you're feeling better after your aromatherapy stress (bloody stuff is supposed to calm you down!). I am in full metalling mode today - had to go to the loos at DD's dance class and sob like a loon as I was sitting next to heavily pg woman stroking and looking lovingly at her bump while sad music was playing. God it was awful!

mysticmartha thinking of you this week, loved the story about meeting the lady in sainsbos.

pebs you have rib flare, it can get pretty sore, acupuncture sorted mine out.

misscoffee glad your symptoms are in full throttle, mine went bananas with DD around 12 weeks, she was a sticky bean and a bit contrary , fingers crossed this one is too

leedy that is so wierd what your DS said! DD said to me this time around "you got a baby coming in your tummy" to me around the time of conception. Maybe we have psychic DC?!

tiago sorry you're having a bad day hang on in there

hi to everyone else, sorry if I've missed anyone out x

tiago, I agree with Manda. What if you do first morning urine tomorrow, to give yourself the best chance? Not suggesting at all that you are miscarrying, but when I had my second mc, my GP said, 'you need to feel some control over the situation', when he sent me off for my early scan. It was strangely comforting to have a plan, rather than just fears and imaginings.

And rather than worrying about self referring, could you see your GP, before the mw booking? Mine put me in for hcg blood tests at first, at 5ish weeks. Even if you do the digi and it is good, would you consider going to see a GP to have a medical person to talk to, instead of metalling at home?

Could I ask, other than the digis, and mc history, are there any other reasons why you are worried?
I am thinking about you a lot Tiago and sending you a big hug.

Just marking my place and sending calming thoughts to tiago. So sorry you are feeling like this, it might just be your body's way of trying to protect you, not getting your hopes up too soon.

Oh tiago I'm sorry you feel so scared :( I don't like the CBs so I'd say stay away from them and try and get in for an early scan, but it's just so hard, I know it, I know. Can you plan something - anything - to look forward to and take your mind off it?

Everyone who isn't in full metal at the moment, please come along and tell me cramps and backache is normal, it's normal, it's normal. Normal normal! Ouch :(

Quick question to Jaffa re your post this morning (and anyone else who has the answer)

How do know a 3+ on CB digi means hcg of over 2,000? V. helpful!

projectg, just lots of googling. I don't think they are completely accurate, but I am an obsessive. I think the blood tests are completely accurate though. Don't know of any other ways to test. Just to warn you they are addictive and emotionally troubling things.

Mscoffee, hope you feel better soon