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MarthasHarbour · 07/02/2012 11:30

There's cake for scoffing, backs for patting, and screeching death metal for all your METALLING moments. All welcome!

Our last thread reached 1000 posts so i hope you have all found your way here! I have steaming hot Brew chocolate croissants (or as my colleague said 'chocolate pasties'), blueberry muffins, grapefruit segments and hot buttered toast for brekkie!

Settle into the mosh pit, we have special VIP area's for those on the 2WW, the new bumps metalling with segregated areas for the first/second/third trimesters and the club class cocktail bar for those who have just got AF and can get-pissed let loose for the first two weeks!

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Poppyjen · 09/02/2012 13:43

Frozen my midwife was really pro-VBAC and even talked about some ladies liking to use the birth pool etc and said that things like continuous monitoring etc were "up for negotiation" but I do get the impression that things may not be so positive with the obstetric team. If all goes well I just want to be left alone to get on with it when the time comes. I was induced last time at 42+2 and I was hooked up to so many monitors and tubes I just wanted to tell everyone to bugger off and leave me in a corner in the dark. Ah well, we'll see what they have to say.

pebspop · 09/02/2012 13:58

i'm not even going to google endometriosis. don't need any more worries!! i always thought endo was when you have very heavy, long, painful periods. i don't have any of those problems. Always have 3-4 days of medium flow and just the odd twinge of period pain with regular cycles. am i wrong? really don't want to google - i got my self in a right tizz with ashermans syndrome when af went awol for 12 weeks after my 20 week mc. contacting private specialist on harley st - i think i lost my mind that day!!

dh is wondering if all the swi'ing we were doing has caused cystitis. could have i suppose as we were going for it this month!

i will just wait and see if af turns up this weekend. i should really wait until monday and test again but will probably try again in the morning. i have given up on my opks since i have been feeling ill all week. if af arrives it will be a fresh start on a new cycle and i will start the opks again.

MandaHugNKiss · 09/02/2012 14:25

marff You are just a meany. You're a mean girl! And I hope you have a fab meal tonight get food poisoning!

Grin

frozen Because I'm very much 'arm myself with the facts (even if you don't really wanna hear them) and take charge!' I'm au fait with most things ttc (well, the natural route anyway; but have somehow picked up a bit of assisted stuff along the way too). I do find it surprising at how little many women know about their bodies (not forgetting I was the same until I taught myself). How much does the average woman know about ewcm and what it means for fertility? And that if you don't produce much you can take steps (drink grapefuit juice/up water intake, take an expectorant, try evening primrose oil) or 'fake it' (with preseed and the like never liked the sound of using ACTUAL egg whites but it apparently helps! ) . So much of the scant sex education in school is directed to the mechanics and avoiding pregnancy that it's not surprising really.

Moominsarescary · 09/02/2012 14:41

Hello everyone

Well all blood tests came back negative for infection, placenta was fine but we expected that.

Consultant has said he will put a mcdonald stitch in between 12 and 14 weeks next time. I meet the criteria due to having two preterm baby's and a second trimester loss. I could wait and have scans to see how my cervix was doing but Im not prepared to take that chance as the cervix failed so quickly last time .

He doesn't know what has caused it, ds1 was 11 lb 2 which he says points to my cervix being able to carry a large baby at that point, although he couldn't rule out his weight and the problems in the later pregnancys all contributing to it weakening.

If I got to 36 weeks they would then take out the stitch, which might cause the cervix to start opening in which case I could have a vbac with close monitoring, if my waters broke earlier then as long as the baby was in the right position we could also try vbac. Anything after 38 weeks would be csection.

If my waters break very early like with ds3 (31 weeks) thEn the stitch could stay in untill labour started, as long as I wasn't showing signs of infection

MandaHugNKiss · 09/02/2012 14:52

Oh, moomin mixed news then - but at least they have another strategy to keep baby put this time (although is it very wrong indeed that I'm imagining them placing a big mac for the duration? Would you like fries with that?)

(I'm so sorry, my humour can be terribly dark at times)

So, do you feel confident enough to carry on ttc? I suppose that's what it all really boils down to.

Moominsarescary · 09/02/2012 15:12

I was thinking big macs too, could just eat one!

We pretty much knew that would be the course of action so yes will still be ttc, I think I'd regret it if we didn't and I'd realy like a small age gap this time , there is 8 years between each of the ds.

I'm quite pleased that I can try vbac, I was booked in for an elcs with Jacob due to having vertical cuts in the womb with ds3

MissCoffeeNWine · 09/02/2012 15:13

Ahhh I lost you all Blush

Sorry I missed so much will try to read through. Hope everyone is okay. I am, I think - 9 weeks Shock

I think I need a stats list because I'm getting boggled ... can I make one?

FrozenNorthPole · 09/02/2012 15:54

Ah pebs, sorry for adding to the worries! From what you say it doesn't sound like endo, particularly if the bleeding when weeing isn't every cycle. Apologies Blush

MarthasHarbour · 09/02/2012 16:06

Stats for you MsC

TTC
MarthasHarbour: TTC no 2, MC @ 10 weeks on 14 March 2011, CP1 01/08/11, CP2 02/01/12. DS1 age 2yrs+8mo.

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PieMistress · 09/02/2012 16:08

Just lurking and popping in to say hello to all the lovely ladies on here!! I'm still around and reading most days to see how you all are! Am 20w today and still haven't told work (but 3 people have asked me directly, it's pretty obvious methinks) but have got my 20w scan on Monday morning and am totally and utterly shitting myself there will be something wrong. I don't remember feeling this petrified before with DS (but then again I wasn't practically 40!!).

Love Pie xx

Poppyjen · 09/02/2012 16:22

So nice to hear all is well with you, good luck with your scan I'll be thinking of you Smile Let us know how you get on won't you.

Stats for MsC :

BFPs and beyond...
Poppyjen: EDD 03.09.12 (so coming up for 11 weeks now Shock ), 1 DS (almost 2) MC in May '11 at 6/7 weeks, CP1 August '11, CP2 November '11.

TTC
MarthasHarbour: TTC no 2, MC @ 10 weeks on 14 March 2011, CP1 01/08/11, CP2 02/01/12. DS1 age 2yrs+8mo.

pebspop · 09/02/2012 16:36

no worries frozen it's good to get other peoples advice and experiences. i just got a bit carried away when someone mentioned ashermans syndrome (i thought my womb was sealed shut after eprc and thats why i wasn't having af) af came back after i went to accupuncture and has been regular ever since! i was ringing bloody private specialists in london wtf!?? just remembered a guy i emailed in america and he was trying to convince me i had it over email - what a day!!

this bleeding is only coming when i wee. weeing is awful as it is burning like hell and my wee is cloudy with a bit of blood in it. not really much on the toilet roll. it's doing my head in! might go to the doctors in the morning.

WhyAlwaysBoris · 09/02/2012 17:10

Hello everyone, i'm reading the thread rather than working....

Thanks for all the thoughts re the discrepancy between wanting a baby and not wanting to risk another mc.

Frozen congratulations on the scan, (and on your v impressive spelling)

It is very comforting to see so many PG ladies on this thread, hello to you all

Moomin sorry there was no definite cause found, but it sounds like you are getting really thorough and good care at least, good luck with the TTC.

Pebspop fingers crossed it is implantation and not AF-
I am a veteran of the UTI field of battle (my current record is 14 in one year!) so i commiserate- the powder from the chemist doesn't treat it at all but it does stop it hurting when you pee, be kind to yourself and get some OR (TMI coming up) get in a warm bath and pee, it works the same (sorry!)

Can someone tell me what the B100 is? There are a lot of different b vits so i'm confused...... also is it true what someone said upthread, can't remember who, that it is supposedly easier to conceive after mc?

Finally if we are doing stats don't know if i'm allowed as not officially TTC yet, i'm sort of warming up to the idea.....can we have a loiterers section please....if so
Boris- Loitering- MC @ 20 weeks in Jan, no DC's

WhyAlwaysBoris · 09/02/2012 17:42

The SECOND person has just said to me "at least it will be easier to give birth next time after having this one",

These two people don't even know each other, somehow they have separately come up with the idea that this is supposed to be a hidden benefit of having to give birth to my dead baby.

Is it just me????

MandaHugNKiss · 09/02/2012 17:49

boris - FFS! I know it's rare that people say something with the actual intention to hurt, but seriously?! No, no, it's not just you. It's a bloody weird-ass conclusion to come to and presumably arrived at through (blissful) ignorance. I'm sorry. DId you pull one of these: Confused or jump straight to: Angry

WhyAlwaysBoris · 09/02/2012 18:05

Fortunately i was on the phone, not face to face, just had a bit of a cry when i eventually got rid of them! It is so true what you say, not meant maliciously at all....they really are trying to say something comforting!

Moominsarescary · 09/02/2012 18:39

People can be bloody weird, I've had well these things happen for a reason. Then after a couple of weeks no one mentions it again, I'm wondering if anyone will remember my dd on the 17th, and if they do will they say anything

MandaHugNKiss · 09/02/2012 19:03

I had 'it happens for a reason' from a few people, including my dad and Mil... I think it's more of an older generationthing (in my experience it was, anyway) but I HATE the unspoken, read between the lines, part of it - there was something 'wrong' with the baby.

So, as the consultant agreed it was quite likely it was my flu/extreme high temp that doomed the pregnancy I answered both times 'Yup, it was that I got ill - there was nothing wrong with the baby at all'.

I suppose it's possible there may have been but even so there is something horribly callous in effectively saying to someone 'better it died now than you had to deal with a disabled child'.

DF is out at a wake so having a drink He and his buddys are continuing a convo we were having last night trying to come up with a name for this baby. Some of the suggestions, via a flurry of texts, are hilarious (Trevor, from his best friend of all people! sorry to anyone considering Trevor, but really, why would you do that to a child?! Grin )

Then I get a phonecall from him. I answer, laughing, saying if this is another shite suggestion... and he says 'actually, I'm feeling a bit emotional and I've only had two pints... The only name that keep popping into my head is Teddy and nothing else sounds right.'

Teddy was the name we gave to DS3, for those that didn't know.

Mostly, it feels like I'm the only one that still feels him in my heart. And, in all honesty, I do give him a brief thought almost every day. I realise it's not like that for just about everyone else that knew of his existence but sometimes as much as my heart aches that DF is still feeling pain over our little boy going too soon it's also a massive comfort that he IS still in his heart too. Eh. Bit rambly, not quite making sense but I think you guys will understand?

That said, moomin I think DF only remembered that actual due date because I was talking about it/my wish to mark to the day. And as that phonecall demonstrates, it's not because he doesn't rememner our baby or that he doesn't care... I guess grief and how it hits us/how we deal with it is different for everyone. And we can't judge anyone harshly for not feeling it in exactly the same way we do.

I suppose what I'm saying is don't make this a self-forfilling prophecy - if you would like your baby remembered on the day he was due to be born, MAKE IT SO. And if you really don't want to talk about it or mark the day then remember that just because people don't talk to you about him, that they don't remember him in their own way, too.

NoMoreMarbles · 09/02/2012 23:30

hi ladiesSmile

moomins so sorry that you didnt get a "reason" for your lossSad but it is good that the consultant is going to put a burgerWink stitch in on your next pregnancySmile

pebs im another victim of the UTI fairyHmm i am currently being investigated as i have had a UTI every 2-3 weeks for the past 2 yearsConfused im on antibiotics(trimethoprim low dose) for 3 months and i had a cystoscopy on 19th jan which came back as normal...so lupus related up to now but still unpleasant! do you suffer from UTIs regularly?

boris, moomin & manda (and probably everyone else too) i have had those kind of comments plus "maybe your body is trying to tell you not to have another baby"Angry i just irrationally snapped and bit the head off the person who said that (figuritively speaking obviouslyWink) and we are no longer in contact. i need insensitive comments like i need another arsehole... I know the reason for my losses and it 100% NOT the universe mystically speaking through my uterusAngry

im feeling a little sad todaySad i realised that tomorrow, aswell as being the 3rd anniversary of the passing of DHs granddad who i loved like he was my ownSad but it is also the EDD of the baby we lost in july 2010Sad we would have had a 1 year old...it stings a bitSad as that was the worst MC out of the 7 since starting TTC in 2007 and the furthest i had managed in that time too. i feel a little sick and heavy-hearted at the moSad

sorry for bringing the thread downSad

NoMoreMarbles · 09/02/2012 23:35

sorry about the emoticon bomb that just exploded in my post!!Blush

JaffaSnaffle · 10/02/2012 00:09

Marbles, I am so sorry for everything you have gone through.

And Manda, I am sorry you are down too.

I keepmeaning to write a proper post but never get to it. One day...

Staverton · 10/02/2012 00:53

Can I join?
I'm almost 8 weeks after 2 miscarriages. I'm know I'm lucky as I have 2 gorgeous dc but this is a very much wanted 3rd.

I seem to have lost all my symptoms apart from mild nausea. My nipples aren't tingling anymore and are only very slightly sore. Ive had a bit of spotting and mild cramping and am panicking!! Not sure I can go through this again...

I'm sorry havent read through the thread yet will do over next few days

Oh and should say had a scan 10 days ago which was normal and good hb.

WhyAlwaysBoris · 10/02/2012 10:12

Marbles thinking about you today on the anniversary, what a dreadful time it sounds like you have had over the past few years. I'm so sorry.

Staverton hello, welcome! I hope you got some sleep in the end and things are OK today with the baby

I'm feeling much better today after phonecall blip yesterday, but my DH appears to have fallen into a black hole emotionally, maybe it is just hitting him later as he has spent all his time looking after me up till now....its weird how people keep asking him how i am, no one seems to ask him how he is.

pebspop · 10/02/2012 10:14

staverton can you ring your midwife or local epu. you need to get checked out asap.

marble hope the due date goes ok for you tomorrow. are you trying for your first dc? i am.

i haven't really had many uti's in the past, maybe the odd one now and again over the years. my last one was about 4 years ago. i have got a gp appt this afternoon to speak to them about it and the spotting etc. still got the spotting but hasn't turned into af yet - never had this before.

JaffaSnaffle · 10/02/2012 10:29

Pebs, hope you get some answers this pm. Make sure you are, ahem, able to give them a wee sample...

Staverton, hope you get to speak to someone soon too.