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MarthasHarbour · 07/02/2012 11:30

There's cake for scoffing, backs for patting, and screeching death metal for all your METALLING moments. All welcome!

Our last thread reached 1000 posts so i hope you have all found your way here! I have steaming hot Brew chocolate croissants (or as my colleague said 'chocolate pasties'), blueberry muffins, grapefruit segments and hot buttered toast for brekkie!

Settle into the mosh pit, we have special VIP area's for those on the 2WW, the new bumps metalling with segregated areas for the first/second/third trimesters and the club class cocktail bar for those who have just got AF and can get-pissed let loose for the first two weeks!

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Lilmonsty · 06/03/2012 08:07

DH just gone to work and now I'm thinking I reeeeeally want to go to the EPU whilst I'm at the hospital. I mustn't. I mustn't. I mustn't. I mustn't.

Must I?

MarthasHarbour · 06/03/2012 09:18

lilmon what harm can it do? just nip in and introduce yourself Smile and yes i take your point that your own health comes first, i didnt want to add to your metalling, just be sure that all was ok.

manda pants about your Butlins weekend, but i am glad that mini manda is back to the bump n grind

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mrsclairemarie · 06/03/2012 10:21

Thanks all for for making me feel less worried about the time off. Its true I shouldn't care at all what they all think. I need time to heal emotionally not just physically and after going through this twice and well over 2 years of TTC I don't think its too outrageous to have 2 weeks to help get over it all.
twoliitlemonkeys welcome, I'm sorry you have had to join us and sorry for what you are going through. Btw I do believe that B vits help in some way. I take additional B6 as I had a problem with ovulating late in my cycle (too late for the egg to implant even if it is fertilized) I think that it may have helped me ovulate earlier on a couple of cycles. Could just be a coincidence though.
My dr has said she will refer me and my DH to a specialist as I've now had 2 identical miscarriages and that we've been trying for so long. I'm pleased at the idea of a possible answer but also terrified we'll find out there is an issue that can't be solved. I also what to try again as soon as possible, but also worried of the strain it puts on our relationship feels like all the fun has now been taken out of trying and I wish it didn't feel like that :(

NoMoreMarbles · 06/03/2012 12:13

morning ladiesSmile

tits sorry for the BFNSad when is it your birthday? i will contribute to a thread cake for youWink i will post a pic of one of my fancier cakes on my profile later so you can see what you will be eating through the mosh-pit black velvet and blacklit roomSmile

martha thats the problem with these farking CPs! we get about 2 days weeks of excitement and then alls lost...i bloody hate my uterus at the mo (ridiculous i know...) but there again it kept Dd in and safe so if it can do it once it can most certainly do it again...

how is everyone today?

NoMoreMarbles · 06/03/2012 12:24

mrsclaire i seem to have posted a few times since you popped on here and i have yet to say helloBlush sorry! hello! so sorry you find yourself hereSad but this is great place for metalling and general chitchat and some laughsSmile

Dunnitt · 06/03/2012 14:12

Hi twolittle and mrsclaire. You've come to the right place. Lots of experiences to be shared here.

twolittle great that you are getting referred. I always think its better to find something so that action can be taken as opposed to feeling in limbo.

With me it is natural killer cells, they are double the average, but I'm having treatment for it (privately unfortunately as NHS don't always recognise it as a factor) and I am currently 10+4. Which is the furthest along I've ever been.

I'm also on lots of progesterone supplements and blood thinners daily. A lot to handle but again I feel so much better knowing I am doing as much as I can.

And in terms of time off. I had a week after my first but went straight back next day after 2nd and 3rd. Both of which was a mistake as I did find myself crying in the loos and every day I felt sick with dread going to the office. Didn't help that there were 5 pregnant women sat in spitting distance. So I think you take as much time as you both need. Work is soooo not important at times like this

JaffaSnaffle · 06/03/2012 15:16

Hello dunnit, twolittle and mrsclaire, and oneday. Welcome to the thread. So sorry for your losses. I hope you find this thread as helpful as I have.

sorry about typos, I am on my phone, and it is not the best.

oneday, I have had 2 miscarriages, one at 17 weeks last summer and one at 8 weeks in January. I am pregnant again, I conceived straight after the miscarriage. I think I am about 4 and a half week pregnant, based on the only time we dtd after the miscarriage. I took megadose b vitamins following the miscarriage for about 2 weeks, I really think they helped get me on track, and I think they lifted my mood a bit as well. I am not taking them now because I am scared to take anything when pregnant, but would definitely recommend them.

iq sorry your body is playing tricks on you. You are so very nearly there now! So excited for you! I remember being so uncomfortable at thd end, but it is so worth it when you get to see your little one for the first time!

Manda bleurgh to the flu! Hope you get better soon. I tried to nuke mine away with homemade lemonade and gargling with salt water every few hours, and I am much better now, but it was a rotter.

tas how are you doing today? I bet you have ups and downs. Hope you are ok today x

So sorry marbles. tits as well if you are sure AF is on her way.

martha, I am enjoying hoovering up the leftovers from brekkie.

I am feeling very slightly sick these days, which I am willing on. Please let this be a pregnancy with morning sickness. DD was, other 2 weren't.

TitsalinaBumSquash · 06/03/2012 17:37

Don't panic! My birthday is on Saturday, I fancy something chocolatey and cakey. :D

onedayatatime73 · 06/03/2012 19:48

Thank you to everyone for the responses. I have been obsessively hovering on mumsnet reading the replies a each one makes me feel just a tiny bit better. Or certainly that there is life after mc at least.

A couple of questions

The bleeding has stopped, but I now have slightly brownish disharge [odourless]. Does this sound normal? Sorry if tmi.

And did people go back to using opks after mc and did they work as normal? I realise it might take longer though.

I feel so miserable and the only thing I feel I can do that is positive is ttc again and I just want to get on with it so badly. I really miss being pregnant and feel really upset that already I feel I have forgotten what it felt like, if that makes sense.

whatsoever · 06/03/2012 20:10

OneDay hello and so sorry for your recent loss. I had brownish discharge for quite a while after the proper bleeding stopped following my MMC/ERPC. I think it's pretty normal and you only need worry if it smells or you have abdominal pains.

Waves to everyone else! Apologies for my lack of personals and scant appearances, busy weekend just gone. The highlight was a viability scan on Saturday morning and it went well Smile The baby measured 8+4 (2 days more than my expected dates), had a 168 bpm heartbeat and nothing else of concern. Also had my booking appointment with the midwife on Monday and have a dating scan booked in for 26 March.

Told our siblings based on the good scan news, but waiting for the next scan - fingers crossed - to tell anyone else.

BlueCrane · 06/03/2012 20:10

oneday the brown discharge does sound normal...it could last a while too unfortunately, or even go and then start again and still be perfectly normal. I'm not the best one to ask about opk's as I never really used them but I know others on here have had varying degrees of success and non success during the wtf cycle after mc as our bodies don't necessarily produce the hormones in a textbook fashion at that point iyswim. Hope that helps

tits a triple layer chocolate fudge cake with cream sounds like just what you need!! So sorry about af!

NoMoreMarbles · 06/03/2012 22:33

oneday i have had brown discharge after all of my MCs and as long as you dont have any pain or a smell to it then you should be ok (physically at least)...i hope you are feeling ok. we are all here to talk if you need it {{hugs}}

tits i have put a couple of pics on my profile of cake...enjoyWink

hope everyone is okSmile

i had a bit of an AF related accident at work todayBlush i am bleeding REALLY heavily and i flooded whilst sat at my desk! i leaked onto my dress (petrol blue colour) and the stain was really obviousBlush i ended up wearing my coat for the last hour of the day and had to emergency-call my mum to collect me from work she brought my dad and then said really loudly "sit on the carrier bag love, i dont want you bleeding all over the car seat" i felt about 14 Blush bloody uterus!!(literally)

bonzo77 · 06/03/2012 22:54

marbles Blush for you over the AF incident. It's never happened to me, but if it did I'd have to leave work immediately, you were most brave to -hide in your coat- stay for another hour. Pleased your mum was of practical help, if not that sensitive with it! Oh, and your cake photos are ace: I'm about to embark on a bus cake for DS, there's a whole thread on it [http://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/arts_and_crafts/1420829-Making-a-Bus-Cake here].

Weird spotting here, after AF though. But taking your advice: no pain, no smell so assuming all OK. oneday I also had this stop start spot think after ERPC.

NoMoreMarbles · 06/03/2012 23:31

bonzo I have made car cakes etc so if you get stuck/need any tips etc I would be happy to helpSmile I will post a link to my cake profile (my little business ) on FB if everyone fancies a look/ doesn't mind! Weird about the spotting! Have you had that before? I only get post AF spotting when my stupid ovarian cyst grows... Last scan said it had shrunk...

MissCoffeeNWine · 06/03/2012 23:44

Evening all. I've been metalling quietly in the background.

mrsclairemarie, I had 2 weeks off around my 14 week MC (I had to wait 5 days to MC then the MC itself took a day which was like labour, then I had 8 days off after) and 1 week off for my 17 week MC (just one night in hospital) Neither of those were enough, especially as I work with pregnant women and newborn babies. Don't worry about them and worry about you.

Sorry about the AF marbles it sounds extreme. Good for you for sticking it out though.

oneday - you'll get there. You can't forget what it feels like as each one is so different and there is such a variation day to day.

IQ so close now. How is your Grandad? I'm sorry you've been so stop start, it's awful I know, I was like that for six weeks with DD (not what you want to hear I'm sure) but at least it made labour super-short! Can't wait to 'meet' our first grad :)

welcome to the mosh pit twolittlemonkeys I'm sorry you're having a hard time. Keep us updated.

Everything crossed for you this time dunnit

martha and bonzo :( oh for a magic wand. I'd impregnate you both in a flash Grin

sorry about af tits Happy birthday for Saturday though - hurray for cake! How is your DS?

Glad to hear about bouncing baby blue!

Nothing to report here. Continuing to metal about increases/amounts of discharge (TMI) JIC it might be my waters going again. I'm 13 weeks, so at prime time for some clue that this one won't make it. See the consultant next week, who knows what for. I'm still pondering the idea of a doppler to listen for a heartbeat. Will it increase or decrease the metalling? It might stop me having nightly horrid dreams - I alternate between dreaming I have MCed and am holding a dead baby and dreaming I gave birth and everything is wonderful, then I wake up and search the bed for a baby like a crazy person before bursting into tears because I don't have one and it's still inside my dangerous body Blush I'm actually crazy I think. I should give up babies and take up cats.

Moominsarescary · 07/03/2012 01:44

Hello all,
Have finally found the time to sit and read through the thread

tits sorry about the bfn

manda hope your feeling better

iq not long now till you meet your little one

Jaffa fingers x for sickness, never thought I'd say that to someone

oneday I had brown discharge on and off for a while after my losses

whatso realy pleased scan went well

marbles that has happened to me a couple of times, the first time at 14 in my dads car. He had to scrub the seat also would love to see your cakes, ds is one on Tuesday and I'm toying with the idea of making his cake myself.

MissC I've been having the same dreams, the night before Jacobs due date I had a dream about his birth and when he was born he was full term. I cried for days after that one.

Well it's time for the swi to start again here, where has this month gone

This time last year I was admitted into hospital at 31 weeks after my waters broke, can't believe ds is nearly 1, the last 5 months since loosing Jacob have been a bit hazy, I sometimes feel bad that a lot of my focus has been grieving for Jacob when ds is so young and my attention should have been on him and all the new things he was learning

Midgetm · 07/03/2012 07:24

MissCoffeeNWine and Moominsarescary those dreams sound horrible. And sure as hell stirred up my inner blubbing that is on full throtle at 7 weeks. I don't think cats will help. Honest. Moomin you shouldn't feel guilty - that you are functioning at all is to be commended.

Scan at 10am. After wanting this day to come for so long I am now terrified. I feel I cant get on the tube to get there even. Positivity disappeared and the reality that will my track record what the hell chance is there of this being any different. How many times have they shown me the screen with no lovely little flicker. Or slow flicker - that one is always worse.. May just bunk off my scan. In floods of tears just typing this.Not sure my positivity has helped as it is further to fall.METALLING.OUT OF MY MIND METALLING.

TitsalinaBumSquash · 07/03/2012 07:41

Morning ladies. :)

I totally misread dates, so it's infact tomorrow af is due to arrive, I'm glad I realised or I would have spent today getting my hopes up when it didn't!

midgetm good luck on your scan, I shall keep everything crossed for your flicker to be strong. :)

Moominsarescary · 07/03/2012 08:03

Thankyou midgetm fingers x and will be thinking about you

NoMoreMarbles · 07/03/2012 08:47

midget GL and Fingers X'ed for the scan {{{hug}}} Smile

JaffaSnaffle · 07/03/2012 08:48

Midgetm, thinking about you today. Really hope you have a good scan.

Tits, not wanting to be voice of false hope, but if you have misread your dates, doesn't that mean your bfn test is less significant? Hope you get good news.

Misscoffee, so sorry you are having nightmares. I hope you can get through this difficult time somehow.

twolittlemonkeys · 07/03/2012 10:33

Thank you for the warm welcome. Not only have I been virtually scoffing lots of delicious chocolatey goodies on here, but a lovely friend brought us over dinner on Monday (enough for 2 meals!) including a massive plate of brownies, which I've been devouring for breakfast Blush

Midgetm thinking of you today, hope your scan is positive.
Titsalina fingers crossed for you
MissC and moomin so sorry about your nightmares. Sounds awful :(
Dunnit hoping that the treatment you're having this cycle will help this little one to stick...
NoMoreMarbles Blush for you, these things happen. I pulled up at kindergarten to drop off DS just last week and my friend parked next to me, rolled down her window and asked me to take her DS in for her as she'd just flooded and even the cardigan wrapped round her waist couldn't stem the flow Confused
Mrsclairemarie glad you are being referred. I hope they are able to help.

I'm dreading my scan tomorrow, thinking if I don't go, I can kid myself into thinking I'm still pregnant. Deep down I'm certain I've MC - it's all exactly like last time, same pain, same heavy bleeding, scan showing hb, then nothing :( Am frantically trying to be upbeat, as it's DS1's birthday today. TBH I think the celebration meal tomorrow night will be hardest, if the scan confirms my fears. Anyway, off to eat more chocolate, any excuse... :)

mrsclairemarie · 07/03/2012 10:55

Morning all,
Thanks for all the welcomes.
midgetm thinking of you today, I really hope you scan turns out well x
twolittlemonkeys will be thinking of you tomorrow, its so hard waiting for scans. I'll keep everything crossed for you x
I have a scan tomorrow to check if the miscarriage is complete, I really hope so as I would hate to go in for ERPC after going through the miscarriage at home. Unfortunately I have the scan in the normal maternity dept rather than an EPU which is quite tough in itself while all the feelings are still quite raw seeing lots happy heavily pregnant people is pretty tough. Also not looking forward to returning to work as several of the woman on my floor are pregnant always grouped together chatting, there was me thinking I was going to be part of that group :(
Anyway enough of the moaning, I'm off to put the kettle on! x

Dunnitt · 07/03/2012 12:52

Hi MissCoffee. Hope you don't mind me asking. Do they know why you MC'd at 14 and 17wks?

I guess I'm asking because I was hoping that once i got to the 12wk stage I could be confident that I would have a happy ending. But seems like it really is only the beginning.

pebspop · 07/03/2012 13:08

hello everyone

midget hope your scan goes well today.

dunnitt after 12 weeks most people are fine and do go on to have a happy ending. i am not one of them unfortunatley. my mc's have both happened after the 12 week scan. once a couple of days after and the second was found at the 20 week scan. theres usually a good reason for the late ones though. mine was because i had blood clots in my placenta. i am taking asprin this time and hopefully will be starting heparin injections next week to help thin my blood.

hanging around on here can make things seem a bit scary sometimes as you are hearing so many bad news stories. it's not the norm though.

i am feeling pretty good at the moment. not even metalling a little bit. think i am just waiting to get to next thursday for my next scan. this time in pg is relaxing for me as nothing as gone wrong at this stage before. i think i can get to 11 weeks before its time for history to start repeating itself.

not got much in the way of symptoms. i am really tired but thats about it. can't stay awake after 9pm.