Just MC and ready to try again? Pregnant after MC and seeking somewhere safe to hide? Come on down to the shiny new baby-friendly MOSH PIT.

[MarthasHarbour]

There's cake for scoffing, backs for patting, and screeching death metal for all your METALLING moments. All welcome!

Our last thread reached 1000 posts so i hope you have all found your way here! I have steaming hot chocolate croissants (or as my colleague said 'chocolate pasties'), blueberry muffins, grapefruit segments and hot buttered toast for brekkie!

Settle into the mosh pit, we have special VIP area's for those on the 2WW, the new bumps metalling with segregated areas for the first/second/third trimesters and the club class cocktail bar for those who have just got AF and can get-pissed let loose for the first two weeks!

marbles I'm keeping it crossed for you - hopefully it is all nothing - I had this with my current pg and it was like a knife to the heart thinking that it was all happening again BUT it's not over till its over and Im hoping this is just your little one burrowing down!!! Hugs xxx

missc so glad all was well with your scan - Hopi it all continues like this and you can stay positive about it all even if not metal free.

tas how are you feeling today?? As well as you can I imagine, sending you continued support and hugs!!!

Well I've been away for a few days - why you may ask - false labour/latent labour I answer, still not sure which one it is but leaning towards false labour!!! Damn it all to hell my body is messing with me in a big way......I had all the symptoms of being in the latent phase (contractions every 15 mins, terrible back pain, abdominal pain, paracetamol and hot bath doing nothing, puked twice) all of this continued for 18 hours in total and I thought "this is different to the other times I thought I was starting to labour so maybe this really is it" BUT I managed to get a nap in this afternoon and the whole lot stopped.....can't believe I was awake most of the night and feeling like crap and now.....nothing!!!! I'm quite happy to be pg for the next few weeks, I have no issues going overdue (after all what's a few days in a life time of motherhood) and would happily just carry on as I am because I finally feel pg and well but all this am I/aren't I business is frustrating.

Tell me to pull myself together ladies - I know this is all part of it and I know I'm bloody well blessed to have this little baby sooooo close to coming home.......just wish I could finally enjoy this pg after weeks of worrying and pain rather than all this malarky......sigh!!!!

IQ hope you're more comfortable now, I'm very happy for you you know! You get to meet your baby soon , just focus on that. The moment I first held DD in my arms was one of the best in my life. Thanks for the support and hugs, I am feeling a bit better today, we had a mini party for DD's 3rd bday. She is so wonderful and lovely, it is helping me get through this rubbish time. DH is peering over my shoulder whispering about him being great too

Ahhhh that's fab tas - I'm so glad your getting this comfort from having your DD and enjoying what she brings to your life. I can't imagine having birthday parties ect but your right - soon enough I shall have my own little treasure and all this will be worth it!

Have decided that im in need of distraction so I'm going to sit at my machine and make those spare bumpers I'd promised myself I as going to get done before she arrived.

On the subjects of DHs i have one who also thinks he is amazing - in fairness he is but I don't like to tell him otherwise his head would never get in the house and then who would do the cleaning !!!!

OneDay So sorry about your MC. It really is a horrible horrible thing. I've had 3 MCs. The first one MMC (died at 9 wks, diagnosed at 12wk scan), then a chemical, then one at 6 wks.

I had an ERPC with the first one. Well i actually had 2 because they didn't do the first one properly. So if you do have an ERPC insist on a scan to check that it was done correclty as I didn't find out until 2 months later because I was getting odd abdominal pains.

With my last MC i bled naturally. I knew from HCG tests that the pregnancy hadn't progressed past 5 weeks so just waited a bit and bleeding started at 8 wks. I treated that as a period, as knew the preg hormones must have gone for me to bleed it out naturally and I conceived that cycle. I am now 10+4.

I have having lots of interevention (through a private clinic) with this pregnancy, but thats because I had 3 previous MCs. As this is your first I wouldn't suggest that for you. 80% of people I know with children have had 1 MC, so it is unfortunately very common.

Take some time to lick your wounds before thinking about the future.

Just had to skim the thread to catch up, just want to quickly say congrats to Marbles hang on in there - the spotting could be absolutely nothing to worry about, easy for me to say i know but take it easy.

oneday i too am a 1973 bubba and have an almost 3yo, i was going through the same as you this time last year, my GP told me to wait one cycle but then said that was only psychological advice - he said that medically if we wanted to we could start TTC straight away, but did advise us to wait a month. I would say it is best to get the WTF cycle out of the way (the one where you havent a clue when/if you ovulate and have no clue when AF will arrive)

IQ oooooooooooo not long now! I am so excited that our first metaller will soon be graduating, I have 'known' you for over 9 months now - dyou realise that?!! I was also at mandas revelation that she is 29weeks...

me and DH really need to get in the sack and get going!!

limonsty i have a question about this:

Got to go to hospital on Tuesday for colposcopy (had another pesky abnormal smear 2 weeks before BFP) going to take superhuman strength not to drop into EPU!

Is it wise to have a colposcopy when PG? I would be having a word with the consultant if i were you, i was worried about having a smear test when i thought i was pg and the practice nurse advised me against it... just a thought

As for me, I. Just. Want. To. Be. Pregnant........ thats all!

Another skimmer here.

IQ very excited on your behalf. I remember doing lots of nesting activities in the last couple of weeks before DS arrived. Washing and ironing and removing labels from tiny clothes . Then realised once he had grown out of them that I would never know what size they were as the labels were gone. But of course I will, because that was the last time I had time for label excision!

limonsty I second martha on questioning the need for colposcopy. Cervical cells are bit odd during pregnancy, and it's hard to do pathology on them. Never mind the fact that if something went wrong with the pg you would always worry if the procedure was the cause, so add to the metalling.

marbles we all know spotting can mean everything and nothing, so whatever I say on that is redundant. But if there is any power in all our positive thoughts for you, the outlook has got to be sunny.

oneday I am also sorry for your loss. It's normal to feel all the things you are feeling, we've all been there at some point or another. WRT to cycles, I counted the day after my ERPC as day 1, as it was done late in the evening. Had it been earlier I would have counted day one as the day of the op. I did ovulate that cylce, but had a very short luteal phase, and did not concieve. The next cycle was longer, but could not pin point ovulation day, as CBFM said one thing, and FF kept moving the day. I was pretty ill with cold etc, so will put it down to that. I'm now CD6 of a new cycle, and hoping things will be more normal this time. Pre mc my cycle varied from 29 to 34 days, but LP always 14 days, so who knows where things will settle to now.

This was my first mc, and I also already have a DS, so I am putting it down as "one of those things" for now. I know that DH and I are able to conceive, we've done it twice, and can produce a baby and carry it to term (done that once), so unless something has changed I'm pretty confident it will happen again. DS was conceived so easily, on honeymoon, 2 weeks after stopping the pill I'd been on for 10 years. It seemed so far fetched that I was pregnant that by the time I POAS I nearly missed the opportunity to get a 12 week scan (I got the last available appointment at my preferred hospital just in time for a NT scan). Its now been 12 months with no contraception, less the 4 "wasted" with the whole pg/ mmc/ WTF cycle thing. Sorry, rambling there.....

tas hope you are bearing up through this shitty time.

martha As for me, I. Just. Want. To. Be. Pregnant........ thats all! oh, ditto a million times over.

I agree with what others have said about the calposcopy, don't want to scare you but it can cause incompetant cervix which is why I lost ds4 at 20 weeks. Although they do monitor you more closely if you've had one to check the cervix isn't weakening.

I would be asking some questions about how safe it is when pg x

Hello all, I'm new to this thread. Was in the due in oct 2012 thread but have just had a natural miscarriage yesterday at 9 and a half weeks (baby had not developed beyond 6 weeks) this was my 2nd MMC within the year. I've been TTC for about two and a half years. I've got an appoinment for a scan on Thursday to check if the miscarriage is complete I'm really hoping that it is so that I can begin to recover.

hi mrsclaire, so sorry you have to join us. 2 MMC is awful , I had one in Nov, everyone says oh it'll be alright next time. Then when next time comes, it's shit all over again (Then I had an ectopic, was also due in Oct 2012 ). Hope that Thursday brings some closure so you can start to plod on with your life. Sorry maybe you'll be dancing on with a spring in your step! It's just me that's plodding!

lil I had also wondered about having a colposcopy when pregnant, but thought I was maybe being over anxious (as I am generally atm). Did they say anything about the risks?

Thanks bonzo I'm just plodding on, not even really sure how I feel atm. I think it's taken the pressure off TTC, which is a good thing. I really can't face it, especially imagining it happening again and losing the other tube. Then I really will be f**ked. I'm just resting and avoiding hassle.

bonzo

mrsclaire so sorry for your loss, it is very early and raw for you but we are here for support and lots and lots of cake

tas i know you arent ready yet but 'you only need one tube' one would hope they will monitor you more closely next time (FX)

Afternoon all,

IQ - hope you are settled now and are at least being able to get comfy. My one success story I was induced so never had to face the am I, aren't I issue so I can offer no practlcal advice.

MrsClaireMarie so sorry you found yourself here. Except here seems a good place to be for kind words and empathy. I do both threads depending on the mood of the day. These poor ladies on here get to hear my metalling side.

Tas after my ectopic experience last year (where I was lucky enough not to need intervention) I was terrified to try again for a bit. Always after M/C I am keen to go again but this was different. It took me a while to be brave enough to have sex (the consequences were too alarming for my tiny mind and too likely to involve a blue flashing light). My poor DH only got sex once before I got upduffed and now too scared to do it again becasue of my MC history. What I am trying to say is give yourself time. Each persons time is different and you need to recover physically as well as emotionally.

Marbles any update on how you are feeling? My spotting has stopped, hope yours is going the same way too. Sending waves of empathy at you (again no emoticon for that and there bloody well should be)

I am still managing to take one day at a time and like IQ says it aint over till it's over. I try and steele myself for the worst for self preservation but this time I am trying to remain positive. I really am. Scan in less than 48hours will at least reduce some of the craziness one way or another (ok so maybe only temporarily).

Martha and Bonzo seems to be something in the air on these threads so hopfully you will be very soon.

Big hugs to those who need them and slaps round the head to me (I certainly need that at the moment.)

I've only had a brief skim, sorry, not long gotten back from the dreaded Butlins... where I have been incredibly poorly. I was crying on the way as just so bloody ill. DF told me to stay home but I wasn't in any state to look after myself so if I could just get there and plot up, I says... which is kinda what I did. Didn't leave the room very much at all, but ate plenty (would never have fed myself stuck here on my own as zero appetite plus zero energy = can't).

Baby started bopping about on Friday evening at his usual time so it must have been where I was so ill and not eating leaving him v low on energy too. ANyway, usual service seems to have resumed so I figure he's ok... and I have the consultant on Wednesday anyway. When I'll be 30 weeks... and looking for a date for induction. Consumed by scary thoughts of delivery lately but still not seeing a baby at the end of it. It'll all work out, I know, but for now he just doesn't figure in my 'future thoughts'.

So, anyway, just letting you know I'm/we're ok. Well, I'm still freaking ill - so wishing I'd had my flu jab now, I can tell you. Thank you all for your thoughts x

hi ladies

so all is lost (again! unusually heavy AF type bleeding etc) but seeing as how i knew for less than 24 hours and AF arrived on time (early actually- thanks to B100/D3 combi) i am not counting it as a loss... mainly as if i hadnt have tested on saturday i would have assumed that when i got Af on sunday morning that B100s had done their duty and sorted my Ov out... i assume that i Oved on CD 15 and funnily enough that was the only day we didnt DTD since CD5 and actually the day Dh had an "issue" so we couldnt DTD im not adding it to the stats for that reason too...

hope evryone is ok

tas I know what you mean, everyone said to me it'll be fine this time it won't happen again... and then it did :( I am definitely still at the plodding stage. I'm sorry to hear of what you've been through, an ectopic as well as MMC how awful life can be so cruel.
I've been signed off work for 2 weeks but am worrying work will think I'm having too long off, I know I shouldn't worry about what they are thinking but I'm a born worrier!
Midgetm nice to see a familiar name, thanks for recommending this thread to me.

manda glad to hear LO is ok and has 'resumed normal service' in terms of movement etc, but so sorry to hear you're feeling so ill - is it a flu type bug? Take care and make sure you rest, keep fluids up etc

IQ I have all this fun to come with the is it/isn't it starting debate and know my impatient side will turn me into nightmare company for my DM and DH hang in there!!

marbles so to hear your news! Good that the B100 seems to be working it's magic but pants that AF seems to have arrived!

mrsclaire so sorry you have found yourself here but please know this is an excellent place to be for support!

tas I can't even begin to imagine what you must be going through take care

bonzo and marthas thinking sticky bean thoughts for you...we do seem to have had a bit of a rush of bfps lately and it is definitely your turn so to speak!!

In the land of blue and mini-blue all is well, except that mini-blue seems to have morphed into a ferret! It just won't stop ferretting around in there, wriggling, kicking, somersaults etc...how much energy can such a little thing have?! Wondering whether it ever sleeps or whether it will ever sleep once it has arrived too! But...on the flip side, it is very comforting to feel the movement and if it does go quiet then the panic starts to kick in again so I am remaining thankful except maybe getting a little bit grumpy in the middle of the night when I need to pee (again!!) due to bouncing on my bladder

X-post mrsclaire I had three weeks off in total with my MMC/ERPC and it was so important to have time to work through some of the physical and emotional challenges before being back at work...they will think what they think but you need to prioritise 'you' for the time being so try not to worry.

mrsclaire I had 3 wks off as well for the MMC. Much better to take the time you need. I would've hated to go in feeling vulnerable and end up crying in the loos. It'll be 3 wks for this ectopic as well what with all the to and fro to the hospital before the op. You have no control over what work think. Concentrate on looking after yourself. I've been very matter of fact when I've contacted work - I have a sick note for x wks, I will be back in the office on this date. Take care x

marbles come and join me and manda on bluecrane's sofa for cakes and nice treats and then we'll plod on together, hoping for better luck next time

thanks everyone

martha i totally get your "just wanna be preg" feelings...my insensitive friend posted a pic on Fb of her 4D scan and tagged me in it im happy for her...but shes got millions of kids (3 really) and i wish it was me...hey ho...

for Marbles

Hello, may I join you?

I'm currently miscarrying at 7/8 weeks (again) and feeling immensely frustrated and anxious. There's a teeny weeny chance that something's still there - apparently there was still a heartbeat at 3am Sunday morning when I was in hospital due to the pain and heavy bleeding. However, today I passed some clots and significant-looking stuff (sorry for TMI). Got to go back on Thurs for another scan. I hate being in limbo.

The thing that's compounding my misery at the moment is that I need Clomid to ovulate and am pretty damn close to my maximum number of cycles - I think I have 2 more shots at it :(

Haven't read the whole thread (yet) but very interesting to read about the benefits of B vits. My mum is always going on about how beneficial Vitamin B supplements are, and bought me some super strong ones, so I will get on with taking them. Will go and read the whole thread once the DSs quieten down.

thanks midget for you though

twolittlemonkeys so sorry to hear you are MC stick around and eat some cake! we are all in the same boat (or have been in the past)

So sorry you made it over here TLM. It's the kind of club nobody wants to be in but it feels nice when you get here. Hope you are still being well looked after. I know nothing about clomid but didn't want to post and leave so just wanted to send you a welcome and a hug. X

Tas Moomin Bonzo Martha Thank you thank you ladies for your concern. I was mentalling a bit a lot until I read the leaflet from the hospital. It contains the exact words (I know because I've read it 100 times) "colposcopy is safe during pregnancy". Colposcopy by itself is just having a look with a microscope thingy and applying vinegar and iodine to help with identification of the bad cells. I can't believe that is any more harmful to the cervix than BD!

(leaflet again) Treatment is a different story and if you need treatment then they will usually wait until after delivery, exactly as you say, sometimes the cells go back to normal on their own and also to minimise chances of harming the pregnancy. It doesn't say either way about a biopsy, so I'm going to make sure they know (a) I am pregnant and (b) I am a mentalist so if there is any chance they wouldn't mind just checking that taking a piece of my cervix out of there when they leave is absolutely necessary, then I'd probably rather just leave it whole for now, thanks very much.

On the other hand if they say it is advised, then of course I will have to go ahead - can't stop thinking about Jade Goody and DH made it very clear that my health comes before that of any unborn full stop/poppy seed.

Appointment is at 10am and then have a GP appointment tonight to spill the BFP beans to her, so either way can involve her in a bit of healthy mentalling about colposcopy and life in general.

Manda Soooo pleased all is well. Please take it easy and look after you both!

Nomoremarbles and two so sorry to hear the news. Sending you big hugs and chocolate.

bfn for me this morning, so I shall just wait impatiently for af to come and ruin my birthday try again next cycle.
It's due tomorrow so big fat meh.

I have had some af type cramps so I wasn't suprised to have the bfn, they claim to be the 10mu tests so would be picking up a bfp by now, luckily only internet cheapies.

I forgot how tiring this whole ttc thing was, I recall now though getting so worn down from it all when ttc ds2.
Full day at college today. Really cba.