Just MC and ready to try again? Pregnant after MC and seeking somewhere safe to hide? Come on down to the shiny new baby-friendly MOSH PIT.

[MarthasHarbour]

There's cake for scoffing, backs for patting, and screeching death metal for all your METALLING moments. All welcome!

Our last thread reached 1000 posts so i hope you have all found your way here! I have steaming hot chocolate croissants (or as my colleague said 'chocolate pasties'), blueberry muffins, grapefruit segments and hot buttered toast for brekkie!

Settle into the mosh pit, we have special VIP area's for those on the 2WW, the new bumps metalling with segregated areas for the first/second/third trimesters and the club class cocktail bar for those who have just got AF and can get-pissed let loose for the first two weeks!

Hello all again, and a huge GOOD LUCK to everyone awaiting scans xxx
These threads really do help me to get a sense of hope, its DEVASTATING to realise how many people go through mc but also lovely to see positive outcomes arise also.
Its been exactly a week now since I had my ERPC, and the difference in my emotions have been huge....Im still off work (going back Monday) as still feel quite weak and wobbly.....but the gut wrenching despair has given away to a bit more hope....I believe it WILL happen.
However, I cant help but think how things 'would be' if I had not had a mmc....I would be just coming up to 14 weeks....bump would be bigger etc etc, maybe these are going to be feelings that will never really go away???
Move into our first bought home next Friday which will feel like a fresh start and have finally stopped bleeding so going to start TTC asap, doc has assured me I can have an early scan this time so thats good I guess.
A friend sent a message yesterday that sums it all up

"for a very special time you had a baby, and that baby was very much loved and even though the baby was so so small your love and hopes for the babies future were big and strong'.

Welling up just writing that again :( I hope I will end this year with a healthy pregnancy and my wishes to everyone else too xxx

Feel like I'm dying with an awful cold/flu thing (I seem to be getting ill a lot lately. BAH to depressed immune system) so please excuse the brevity of my post (given I usually waffle on and on this could be a blessing in disguise )

Hello, welcome and so sorry you've had to find us to all the newcomers. You've found somewhere there is a lot of positivity and 'good news' that offers hope to us all but where, also, it is absolutely FINE to say the 'other stuff' - y'know, express the darker thoughts, rant about how insensitive others can be, worry, panic, just... cry. All the crap that goes hand in hand with a loss whenever it occurs.

jaffa Really could NOT be happier for you, my love. Through my fog of feeling utterly SHIOTE, I'm smiling. And love that you feel different, more secure this time - long may that continue!

IQ All the ante-natal threads turn into post natal threads once the time comes. As you really will be in new territory then, it may be a good time to join them? That doesn't mean absolute desertion, you understand? I We will still expect updates!

Ah, jeeze I know I'm missing so much but DS2 is climbing all over me and I can't cope! I missed my consultant appt yesterday from being ill, but did call for my GTT results and after the woman covered the mouthpiece with her hand and I heard muffled whispers she say 'yes, it's 'normal'' Had I been myself I'd have asked for numbers but as I was feeling so ill I just weakly said 'thank you' and put the phone down. So, woe. I was kinda hoping it'd be positive so that I had a 'reason' for growing whoppers and that if I just altered my diet (which isn't even bad!) I could loot forward to something less than ten pound this time. Maybe not! Eh, gotta go. Love to all.

hi everyone,

allchik so sorry to hear about your loss, your friend is lovely, her words do just sum it up beautifully, she really understands.

midget hi, thanks, I am vegging, might go out for a stroll as it's nice weather here. Congrats this one is in the right place! That's one hurdle over. So sorry you've been through such shit, keep us posted on the next scan.

marbles rubbish news about the job

misscoffee fingers crossed for your scan, hope to hear good news soon!

I'm not at full mental speed atm, so can't namecheck everyone, but it's lovely to hear all your good news, it gives me hope. Thanks so much for all your messages I can hardly remember the old me who had no worries about pregnancy, couldn't imagine anything going wrong I just could never have understood, I don't know anyone in RL that's been through all this, I'm so glad you're here

I know I was a tit to test early and I can promise not to test again until Sunday at the earliest, it's our anniversary of when we met so we shall be doing something that day, although I'm not sure what.
I just cannot wait for that moment when I can either hand over or text a picture or a clear positive and say "congrats you're gonna be a daddy" to DP, although I guess you already knew that!
Maybe I should hide the tests from myself or get DP to do it so I'm not tempted? :D

I agree that the antenatal threads are (for me at least) too optimistic. I did try, and I've found the November one, but people really extremely optimistic and I don't think my particular brand of 'well, we'll see' will work be appropriate. I shall just lurk here where my high paranoia is understood.

Good luck with the scan, missc!

And tits, yes, HIDE THE STICKS!

Also no, I didn't POAS myself (I appear to treat my pee sticks as if made of solid gold and not to be wasted), temps are right down again now so all seems normal now. WEIRD BODY.

Gah, bit down again today. Keep thinking that I should be seven months pregnant.

Hi ladies have been lurking for a while just aching to join properly so I hope it's ok if I do. I had a mc dec 2010 and then a mmc mar 2011 by this time we had booked our wedding do agreed not ttc till after the wedding which is in 4 weeks time! So here I am scared beyond belief but so so broody next af due 21st march so if we time it right my wedding pressie to the dh2b could be a bfp on a stick ( then months of metalling natch!)

It's lovely to see all the good news on here so if u will have me that would be great x

Thanks everyone for the good luck we'll be off in a bit. If I don't get back on tonight try not to worry we've got a few other places to go after, provided everything is OK.

marbles I barely bought anything for DD, friends and family literally started giving me stuff at about 36w as they were stressed I had nothing for the baby, most of her stuff I got well after she was born including cot and carseat and so on. mini-toe I got nothing. So it's out of character as martha says. We were in the baby clothes section for clothes for my god-daughter's birthday and we saw this little thing, DD asked if we could buy it for our baby - so we did, amidst frantic rationalisations that SIL is pregnant so if something happens we can give it to her. (Just for those of you who don't know I lost my first at 14 weeks my third at 17 weeks (DS) and I'm 12 weeks with a fourth)

tits - sounding very promising I bet there will be another line tomorrow.

I'm out there on the baby bus - yes they are all optimistic, yes that often does my head in, but I refuse to refrain from metaling in public in case I upset someone else like I've got some kind of pregnancy disease. MC at whatever stage shouldn't be a guilty secret - my babies existed and I carried them and held them and I won't not tell people in case they get upset. No amount of metalling on the baby bus threads will convince them that it actually might happen to them until it does. I know I'm ranting now because I've got my full metal jacket on and I know none of you here said that and you all get it and it's much more protective for us than them - but sometimes I want to go and pretend to be normal on the baby bus threads, and sometimes I want to come here and be understood without constant explanation. I'm very glad to have both (and I'll carry on hanging about like a bad smell over there reminding them that they could still lose their babies even after 12 week scans, like I'm doing at the moment) We might be at the ridiculous end of the scale patting me on the back for babygro buying at 12 weeks but there are people on the othe ridiculous end buying £500 double pushchairs 2 days after a BFP because they also have a one year old.

Sorry about the head fuck far fingers crossed.

Get better soon manda

IQ stay here. Lots of us here have kids as well we'll see you right, I'm sure collectively we know just as much about babies (and look in just a few short months mini-IQ will have playmates!) Then you can metal here when you TTC number 2

Just wanted to say I think I have found my spiritual home. (sigh)

missC full metal jacket is my new fave saying!! looking forward to your update later/tomorrow

midget me too!

hope everyone is ok this afternoon

Sitting in car with sleeping DD, looking forward to rambling round national trust garden when she wakes up! Hurray for sunshine!

I am finally feeling a bit better after huge sleep last night. And I am definitely pregnant because I am having mad dreams. Last night I was trying to seduce the Duke of York, (not Andrew, which would have been bad enough, but some strange old buffer that looked like a big toad).

Fx for msC, and also for pebs tomorrow.

Manda. Get well soon love, you have had more than your fair share of lurgy since you Germany trip.

Welcome to all the new ladies, mumtum, allchick, midget and lilmonsty, and anybody else I have missed.

tas, you are in my thoughts every day. I hope some of your post op soreness is fading a bit.

iq, how are you doing on the last lap as a pregnant lady? I would just like to say I found the last month of being pregnant harder than having a newborn, so you have my sympathies.

Hello to all other ladies. Have to go, DD is stirring, muttering something about ladybirds!

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

I just did thorough, complete personals and accidentally clicked off the page just before I pressed post.

Right, will return tonight for attempt number two. Sorry

First of all IQ you aint goin nowhere girlfriend, well you can go to a post natal thread but you aint leaving us! As MsC put it, a lot of us here have DC's and we can give you all kinds of advice re Bf-v-FF Colic, nappies, baby bugs, calpol etc etc - aaaaand we can virtually babysit for you (dont take that literally and nip off to the pub with MN on the laptop )

MissC i really liked your post about wanting to feel normal. A part of me when i do get that BFP wants to wallow in the naivety again and join a bus, but come back here for cake support when i wibble.

manda get better soon will ya, you are a right grump when you are poorly

How are you today tas? hope you are looking after yourself

midget aww blessya - this truly is 'metal nirvana' innit?

Oh, I see how it is - I get leftovers

oh jaffa thanks! You're making my surgery bits sore from laughing! Duke of York??!!

martha I had a shower and peeling the plasters off the keyhole incisions - that is my achievement for today. It all looks remarkably ok. Including the belly button one, for some reason I am seriously wierded out by them going in through the belly button!!!

misscoffee thinking of you, hoping for good news

hiya mumtum sorry to hear about your losses, you're in good company here! Hope all your wedding plans are going well

lil fingers crossed for good news, the waiting is awful I know x

Hello everyone. Had a realy good holiday although af got me on the second day.

Jaffa lol at the old toad looking duke

Finger x for MissC and pebs

Sorry to see you here to all the new comers

Sorry to anyone I've missed, haven't had time to have a good read through yet, have brought a horrid virus back with me so feeling yack!

Did anyone get bfp in the last week?

'Did anyone get bfp in the last week?'

Oh, moomin you're funny!

Sorry you're poorly, me too. If you're lucky you might get left over cake and stuff from marff

I realised I hadn't felt baby all day about 5.30pm... so I whip out my doppler and his usual 140-150 heartrate is a steady, constant... 120-125. Hmmm.

So I drank a bottle of lucozade, call DF and tell him we should probably go in for a trace even though everything is probably fine. THen I had a bath. And it was tooooo hot. I now feel ill (still) hot and faint. I'm a bloody idiot. But had a couple of nudges from the baby (lucozade and the bath usually have him moving about) and his hb is up to 130-35. I'm ummming and ahhhing about whether to go in or not. I know DF is worrying now and tryting to finish up the stuff he needs to get done (we're off tomorrow, to Butlins (ack, ack, HATE it but the kids love it)) but I hate the whole 'it's more than likely a waste of time, and we're short on time at the mo anyway' thing.

I'm 29+1. So thought I was over the proper metalling!

Manda,for what it is worth, I think you should go in. There is more likely than not absolutely nothing wrong, but you will not feel peace until that is confirmed properly. You will spend your time away on edge. Big hugs x

I also think you should go in, for peace of mind alone.

On the issue of the antenatal threads - I to have seen people buying prams/cots/etc mere days after a BFP. Hell, I was never that optimistic.

Had to tell work today as there is a risk that on one of my matters I'd have to spend a fair bit of time in the Caribbean over the next few months and, as fun as that sounds, I seriously do not was to be MCing that far from home if it does all go wrong - not least because I react badly to penicillin and I will need DH. So I had to fill in a form for occupational health, which should result in a travel ban for me :)

manda please go in if you've not already. It's really important. The mw's will be fine about it even if it's a false alarm. Please.

Hope all is okay manda and you've gone in and they've reassured you x

I haven't got a doppler

How did work take the news tiago? I'm not allowed to fly (for work) or drive the company car when pregnant!

I haven't gone anywhere near a June bus!

HR was fine about it pie and said the most important thing was to try and keep me and my baby as safe as possible. Still have to tell the relevant partner - though he is a lovely man so it should be fine. HR is otherwise sworn to secrecy though.

leedy I hope you are feeling less down this evening.

Was popping on to check on Manda and MsC, ( I know msc you warned us you might not get back today but I am the sort of person who just has to check anyway). compulsive POAS er

Right, just updating (for what it is) because I know how I wait for news from you guys so...

Before Df could even get home I realised that I have eaten very little indeed in the last 48 hours. A few spoonfuls of macaroni cheese and yoghurt yesterday nd two shredded wheat and yoghurt today. Naff all, really. So we decided that I really needed to get some food in me and see if that would make a difference. We popped round the corner to a restaurant and as I ate I got a few nudges which was somewhat reassuring. But heartrate is still 120 ish on the doppler so I'm not completely reassured. However, to go now is far too difficult/inconvenient - DS2 is still up - I'm waiting and seeing how things are in the morning.