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When's the best time to get pregnant? Use our interactive ovulation calculator to work out when you're most fertile and most likely to conceive.

Just MC and ready to try again? Pregnant after MC and seeking somewhere safe to hide? Come on down to the shiny new baby-friendly MOSH PIT.

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MarthasHarbour · 07/02/2012 11:30

There's cake for scoffing, backs for patting, and screeching death metal for all your METALLING moments. All welcome!

Our last thread reached 1000 posts so i hope you have all found your way here! I have steaming hot Brew chocolate croissants (or as my colleague said 'chocolate pasties'), blueberry muffins, grapefruit segments and hot buttered toast for brekkie!

Settle into the mosh pit, we have special VIP area's for those on the 2WW, the new bumps metalling with segregated areas for the first/second/third trimesters and the club class cocktail bar for those who have just got AF and can get-pissed let loose for the first two weeks!

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tasmaniandevilchaser · 26/02/2012 16:19

thanks manda didn't see your post til just now. So sorry about Teddy Sad. It is just bad luck, I can't help thinking, if it had just made it a couple of centimetres further, it would have been ok.

Physically I just have a few aches, no pain, which is a blessing. I can't help thinking what would happen to people who weren't so anal about charting and recording all their AFs and ovulation. I have very irregular periods and virtually no symptoms of an EP. Because I'm so anal about these things I knew something wasn't right, but if I wasn't so "regimented", the first I'd know about it would be collapsing in terrible agony!

MarthasHarbour · 26/02/2012 20:21

tas i am so sorry, the weekend must have been awful for you, but at least you are going in tomorrow. It is just so unfair Sad

I got AF yesterday, no great surprise as we only SWI once this month and it was kind of but not really around the right time. We have been a bit ambivolent this month (tbh i still am a bit but DH is 'on it' this month). I am still feeling all weird about whether we are doing the right thing (and getting all gooey and broody when i see a newborn and jumping DH when i see him next Blush)

It is coming up to one year since the MC, March 14th (sorry MsCoffee that is a day after your milestone too Sad) The 13th is DH's birthday too but for obvious reasons we dont want to raise any association as it will mar his birthday forever. Anyway, we are both taking his birthday off work and are going for lunch, hopefully it will take our minds off it.

manda you are off to Chez Bruce again tonight then eh eh? Bring us a doggy bag will yer?

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leedy · 26/02/2012 20:56

Oh tas, I'm so sorry.

In less horrible news, turns out my temperature spike around 9 DPO was ... nothing. AF joined me yesterday.

Admittedly I'm only three months out from a miscarriage and possibly shouldn't be expecting cycles of textbook beauty, but my last two have been only 26 days and I'm usually around 28. And the last one seemed to have a shorter than usual luteal phase. Hrmm. Any thoughts, other than "miscarriages muck with your cycle", "what do you expect, you're geriatric", etc.?

leedy · 26/02/2012 20:57

(by "shorter than usual", I mean 12 days, not like, 3, or something)

MissCoffeeNWine · 26/02/2012 22:48

We can metal together then martha I am awash with milestones at the moment though. Counting down to 14w round your anniversary/DH birthday then I have mini-toe's due date a couple of weeks after that (Mar 28), then a few days after that I have the gestation-of-death milestone for mini-toe (april 3) and then the gestation-of-birth milestone after that (april 6). To be honest they aren't all negative. Mini-toe's DD will be hard, but if I'm still pregnant April 6 it'll feel positive.

Never mentioned the 6 year anniversary of my first either that was last month. So many funny milestones. I wonder how long we'll remember them for. When we're old and can't tell our great grandchildren apart, will we remember the dates of our lost babies? I think we will.

I wish I could help leedy but I'm not the cycle expert. I wouldn't call you geriatric though! All I know is I've hovered round 27-30 and the three day difference always seemed to come off the luteal phase but it hasn't seemed to have made much difference conception-wise. Sorry about AF, though. I wish I could help.

Thinking of you tomorrow tas

TitsalinaBumSquash · 27/02/2012 00:09

Gah! I cannot sleep tonight, at 6am we start a 2 week stint in hospital with DS1 3 hours from home :( I had to leave DS2 with my sister and he called me to tell me he was sad because he missed us Sad
Bloody hate Cystic Fibrosis so much right now, selfishly a bit annoyed on top for missing my Birthday for the 3rd year in a row due to hospital stuff. Sad

On the ttc side of things I am starting the dreaded 2ww, first one but I remember from ttc DS2 how horrid it is. Bizarrely I am already crampy and irritable, but that is likely to be endo.

I hope tomorrow is as easy as can be for you tas I know that it won't be but hopefully you kwim.

NoMoreMarbles · 27/02/2012 00:22

tits im around if you need to have a rant etc sorry you are having to spend so long in hosp with your DSSad i have a friend who has strong CF links in her family and it is just awfulSad i hope your DS feels better (as much as better means for his condition iykwim) soon and you have a nice belated birthday when you get back. poo about the 2ww being in hospital too! is your DH going with you and Ds? what is Ds's stay for (if you dont mind me asking?)

TitsalinaBumSquash · 27/02/2012 08:11

Yes DP is here, luckily he works in London so is close by!
DS is having a Bronchoscopy and 2 weeks intensive IVs. He has had a bad chest for a while now and they are finally investigating it.
I am in the car on the way up atm, waiting to confirm that they actually have a bed! This hospital is prone to messing us around. I am stressed up to the max! Sad

Thanks for the kinds words. :)

JaffaSnaffle · 27/02/2012 08:24

tas thinking about you today. I hope it goes as well it can x

tits also thinking of you and your family x

farfallarocks · 27/02/2012 09:31

tas I am so so sorry, its awful and so unfair after everything you have been through. I hope you can take some comfort from the fact they are saving your tube at least although I am aware nothing can really make you feel better at this point :(

leedy have you tried taking B vits? They have helped lenghthen many people's luteal phases on this thread. Sorry about AF?

Pebs that is great news about the 3+, can I join you in the mosh pit? I really want to be knocked out for the next couple of weeks I am goign mental. My boobs don't hurt, I have some mild cramping and last night and this morning have had some brackish brown discharge on wiping. I know it could be nothing but it could also be the beginning of the end, again, as this is how it always starts for me :( Argh wibble wibble wibble. I did get a nice strong line this morning but I have had that before and its still gone wrong :(

pebspop · 27/02/2012 09:51

you can join me in the mosh pit - i need the company!

i could do with buggering off to a health spa until friday and get pampered all day and night to take my mind off the scan.

it is good news about the 3+ but i am still having the brown stuff. i was googling yesterday and was looking at brown discharge, UTI and early pregnancy. i might still have a bit of UTI which could be causing the discharge. i think i am going to ring the gp and see what they say.

MandaHugNKiss · 27/02/2012 10:07

tas holding you in my thoughts today.

tits OK, that sounds sucky. I don't know an awful lot about CF other than what I've seen in things like ER (currently rewatching from the beginning but bringing DF along for the ride - just finishing season 6!) although I do remember also seeing a documentary that featured a child with the condition - the daily physio seems so brutal although I get it's absolutely necessary and for the child not knowing any different it's... well, it's just the way it is. I can imagine it's exhausting for everyone concerned - hope you have a good support network around you.

Endo on top, for you? My Mum and Aunt had it so I do have some knowledge of how crappy that can be too.

Hope the next couple of weeks throw up some answers as to why DS is struggling at the mo and that the distraction proves useful in the tww!

Hey, haven't you heard we're not supposed to celebrate our birthdays at this point and should, infact, weep? Cos we're old crones and all that now. Ready for the rubbish tip after 30, don'tcha know?

InsomniaQueen · 27/02/2012 11:09

What a mosh pit with have this morning!!!

tas sending you kind thoughts and hugs at what can only be a hellish time!! Xx

tits really hoping that you are all booked in (no bed finding) and great that your DH is close by. Fully agree with the other ladies about belated birthday celebrations - your not an old crone anyhow your mature!!! Wink

leedy sorry AF got you - I would say that the B Vits seem to be doing something for the ladies on this thread - Manda is the resident drug pusher expert so she will be able to answer your questions.

far and pebs I had bleeding and cramps early on (queue nearly hourly knicker checking for 2 weeks) - it all turned out to be nothing but can fully understand the current metalling!!! You kind of go between blind panic and pleading hope that it will be ok, not much middle ground in pg after MC. Hoping it really is nothing and it's just those little beans really bedding down!!

Martha rubbish AF but good your DH is on it and good your still managing to 'jump on him' - I know your still in two minds but at the moment you really don't have to make any hard or fast decisions. I wish I could jump on DH at the moment.......we attempted to have some 'special time' at the weekend and ended up in hysterics part way through as I had cramp in my leg and my hip had locked out from being in the position......how could he not be turned on!! Grin

Jaffa sorry your feeling like hell - I haven't been feeling too bright myself and at the moment can't even be bothered to get out of my bed!!! Sending you a hot lemon and some clean sheets (this always helps me for some reason) and hoping you feel a bit better soon.

marbles how are you getting on??

missc that is a heck of a lot of milestones all following from each other!! Really hope that this is the one to turn the tide for you (other than your fab DD obviously). Will be keeping it all crossed for you!!

Oh and Manda again with this chez Bruce place.....you are a cruel woman to tempt us all with their culinary delights!!! DH finishes his course this week so I'm hoping that he will take me out for a special meal to celebrate......must start dropping hints to give him time to book!!

Right I suppose I better get my bulk out of bed and gets some food in me before this little one kicks a hole in me so she can get herself out. Oh yeah forgot to say we are in the 'safety zone' now - 37+1 today - can't believe we've made it this far.......it's been a long and rocky road full of metalling!!! now were just waiting on her to make an entrance, wonder how marathon is getting on I'm sure our EDD's are days apart!!

Love to all xxx

leedy · 27/02/2012 11:11

No, have not started my high-dose B vits yet, though after far posted yesterday I had a Berocca, as it was the most B-vitamined thing I had in the house. How high is high dose exactly? I should get on it during the first half of my cycle, shouldn't I?

And ach, tits, CF is tough. I have a friend with it who's an adult and a mum herself now.

farfallarocks · 27/02/2012 11:24

Thanks iq :) I am hoping its just a bit of implantation. I am trying to stay positive but that is dangerously close to getting my hopes up which is what I really want to avoid.

manda I am too early even for a scan, I have caved and gone in for HCG beta count though. Next one Weds and should have results by Friday, that seems like an age away.......

leeky I take it all the way though, I used B100 but B50 is also ok I think.

leedy · 27/02/2012 11:29

B100, gotcha. And you haven't had any tingling in your extremities, or anything, which I remember hearing was a possible side effect of a lot of B6?

Grmph. I'm feeling a bit down - I think I felt like I'd had my couple of months after the miscarriage to let everything get back to normal and then OBVIOUSLY I was going to get pregnant this time round. STUPID BODY. Also doing the traditional "I AM 40 THIS YEAR SO MY OVARIES ARE GOING TO FALL OUT ANYWAY". Wibble.

TitsalinaBumSquash · 27/02/2012 11:44

And I'm on a train home. After carting DS plus 2 weeks of luggage and medical equiptment through the streets of London. Not pleased! Angry

However, this means I shall be at home for my birthday (25th) and my finals at college.

MandaHugNKiss · 27/02/2012 11:46

leedy It is possible to have the side effect you speak of (which is your nervous system not tolerating the dose!) but a) usually the dose would have to be maybe B250 for the average person to experience (so MASSIVE dose rather than simply High dose Grin) and b) it reverses as soon as you stop/lower the dose. So as long as you're aware that it might happen and cut back then it's not really an issue, y'know?

As for when to take it, first half of your cycle is when the egg is forming so that's ideal but personally I'd say take it all cycle so that you're 'in the habit' as it were and because it does seem to have other positive effects anyway not related directly to pregnancy (but that may help - reducing stress = good for everything, improving hair/skin/nails = good for how you feel about yourself which = good for SWI Wink)

When I started, I initally took B50, but soon upped to B100.

far Really hoping the counts are on track.

leedy · 27/02/2012 11:48

Right, I am convinced by noted B vitamin propagandist manda! I have to go into town tomorrow before work to get Goretex pads fitted to my clarinet (yes really) so will pop into Holland & Barrett and B100 myself up.

MandaHugNKiss · 27/02/2012 11:49

x post with tits

Ack. That's not fair! Not the hospital thing... that you're only 25!

Heh. I jest. How bloody stressful. But hey, DS2 will be delighted to see you and as you say, birthday celebrations can ensue make sure you bring cake here. Just sayin'

Any word on when they will reschedule? Are you effectively on standby now?

FrozenNorthPole · 27/02/2012 13:13

I didn't update after my Thursday scan because my laptop crashed later that evening ... all looked fine (9 weeks 6 days). Saw consultant for first time who told me that the hospital now performs the NT scan for free and booked me an appointment two weeks from today. I wonder if I can go that long without a scan!

thinking of you tas and far sending wishes for good beta doubling ... please forgive absence of other personals

Tiago · 27/02/2012 13:18

Thinking of you today tas.

IQ - well, they do always say laughter is a great thing in bed!

TitsalinaBumSquash · 27/02/2012 13:29

I am finally home, I feel grim, I managed to vom on the train and I cannot keep my eyes open, that's stress for you!
I am tucked up on the sofa, do is looking after me.

PieMistress · 27/02/2012 13:31

leedy my LP post MC sounds very similar to yours. I left it for a few months to see if it would sort itself out but it didn't so started acupunture (amazing am totally convinced it helped to bring my ovulation fwd from CD19 to CD14) and taking 50mg of B6 in addition to conception vits. Got BFP the months I started taking the B6 (probably co-incidence but hey, who knows!). B6 is also supposed to help increase progesterone. I knew my levels were low as i'd been having monthly CD21 tests (am 40 in August and 22w pregnant) x

bonzo77 · 27/02/2012 13:37

far fingers tightly crossed for you. We'll need to send lots of cake and magazines your way in a vain attempt to keep your mind off it till Friday.

leedy I started on the B vits this month. This cycle is definitely longer than last, though last one CD1 was the day after ERPC, so not a normal one. I think I ovulated later than normal (day 19 rather than 16 according to FF). AF is due tomorrow based on the 9 day LP last month, though I suspect that was a mc- related blip as my LP used to be 12-14 days. Not had any tingly fingers. But OTOH I am as grumpy as ever and my nails are still flakey. So who knows?Hmm

tits what a pain in the arse having to go home, when your DS needs medical care, not to mention all the arrangements you will have made to free yourself up to camp out with him for 2 weeks. Which you will have to do again, possibly with short notice. I suppose it might be that someone else needed the bed more urgently, and one feels for that child and their family too....

IQ I remember 37 weeks like it was yesterday, not 2 years ago! I was on ML and sitting about watching day time telly, meeting friends for lunch and getting facials and waxes. Ohhh, those were the days! Lots of movement is good, but a change in movement (especially if decreased) warrants attention. I went in with loss of foetal movement. Probably saved DS's life. Movement does not slow with impending labour. Sorry to be bearer of doom and gloom, but it's one of my soap-box issues. A friend of mine's DD was born asleep, she had not acted on loss of movement a few days earlier. Sad

missc that does seem like a lot of milestones in a short period of time, something about early spring for you and your family. Must be hard.

All over the place here. AF 2 days late according to CBFM which gave me a peak on day 16, or due tomorrow according to FF which thinks according to temps that I ovulated day 19. Had some very minor cramping (the sort that is so mild I might have imagined it) over the last few days. If AF does not come by Thursday I will POAS then, as I ride on Fridays and will stop if I get a BFP [unlikely emoticon]. OTOH if I get AF then I can use my groupon for cut and highlights next Friday. Reluctant to colour hair if BFP.

Really rough patch with DH at the moment. He's totally focused on work and unable to focus at home on me or DS. He works late, gets called into work on his day off. None of which can he help, but he could soften the blow by letting me know what is going on (sometimes I only know he is working late because I call to find out where he is), and being mentally present when he is at home. DS is obsessed with his daddy, and it kills me to see DH ignore him. DH also can't understand why I am still thinking about the mc, says that I didn't lose a baby it was just a ball of cells. Can't understand that the upset is about the lost potential, the waste of time, the effort TTC, the fear of it happening again. Also says he thinks I am obsessed with TTC, that everyone else he knows got pg just by having fun and not trying. Well, that's bullshit as we know one couple who had IVF, and another that took over a year. And you don't actually know what happens in people's private lives. That he's fed up of living by the rules of the thermometer and CBFM. What can one say to that? TBH sometimes I think bringing another baby into the mix is stupidity.

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