Just MC and ready to try again? Pregnant after MC and seeking somewhere safe to hide? Come on down to the shiny new baby-friendly MOSH PIT.

[MarthasHarbour]

There's cake for scoffing, backs for patting, and screeching death metal for all your METALLING moments. All welcome!

Our last thread reached 1000 posts so i hope you have all found your way here! I have steaming hot chocolate croissants (or as my colleague said 'chocolate pasties'), blueberry muffins, grapefruit segments and hot buttered toast for brekkie!

Settle into the mosh pit, we have special VIP area's for those on the 2WW, the new bumps metalling with segregated areas for the first/second/third trimesters and the club class cocktail bar for those who have just got AF and can get-pissed let loose for the first two weeks!

Quick drop in to say sorry to tas and send a hug.

Oh tas what a nightmare - just don't know what to say it's bloody shitty all the way round!!!

Thinking of you tonight and hoping that you and your other half are being kind to each other, try to take it easy over the weekend and come on and rant when you feel you need it - were all here for you!! Xxx

tas I'm absolutely gutted for you. An mc is bad enough, but the extra worry (and enforced delay TTC after) with an ectopic just adds insult to injury.

Oh the delays...yes, time spend pg with no baby to show feels like a waste of time to me too. And the toll on one's body with the hormonal changes.

Tas so sorry to hear your news, sounds like you'll save your tube though? Will they check you out for blockages after this?

If it helps at all, my sister had 2 mcs and an ectopic, lost a tube, and has has had 2 beautiful DDs after this whilst having to inject heparin daily with the 2nd because of a DVT she'd had a few months before! You will get there, just feels shit now I know

*Tas, i'm so, so, sorry.

Oops,sorry about the bold font breakdown there

Thanks everyone, it's a comfort to get so many lovely messages. It does feel like insult added to injury. After the MMC I just feel like I'm being kicked when I'm down . It's great to hear some hopeful stories mad, I just feel like giving up sometimes. I don't know why I'm putting myself through this.

So so sorry to hear your news tas, insult after injury indeed. Saving the tube is good - my best friend had a ruptured ectopic so, again, as shite as it all is knowing sooner means there are some positives to take away (even though it won't seem like it, I'm sure )

Take things easy, support each other. Your luck WILL change.

tas really sorry to hear your news. hope the next three months goes fast for you. your luck is bound to change at some point. it just seems so unfair with everything we have all been through to get one of these 'bad luck' things. why does it not happen to all the dickheads you see popping babies out??

not much going on for me today. still having a bit of the brown spotting. i am going to try my clearblue digi tomorrow to see if it says 3+ weeks. feeling pretty nervous about it though. also counting down the minutes until my scan on friday.

Afternoon ladies xx

Sorry you are still spotting pebs I have all my fingers crossed for you

tas thinking of you xx

Hi everyone else

Quick question... Has anyone else had dreams that have came true? I had ALOT of predictive dreams a while ago and I think I had another last night It was of me and DH and we had done a CB digi and it said 2-3weeks on it I have NEVER had a BFP on a CBD as I can't afford to buy them unless I know it will be BFP and bar the most recent BFP I have not had spare cash to spend on one if it won't stick anyway now I KNOW it's more likely to be wishful thinking etc but I have predicted BFPs (including our own murray when she was TTC her DS) and have usually been VERY accurate too... Il stop rambling now

No marbles, no dreams that have come true here, fingers crossed for you!

It's such a bummer, before this any pregnancy symptom was so welcome, now it just feels like some horrible joke, like something horrible is growing inside me

tas, I am so sorry. Is all your treatment at the same hospital that dealt with your mmc? Will you have to see the same doctor you saw on Friday, hope not. Still thinking of you lots.

pebs I hope you get some good news with the digi tomorrow. X

Well, I am venturing into realms of madness here. I am in the wtf cycle, with only one swi that could be relevant, convincing myself that I am pregnant. I did this once before, at got AF bang on due date, so who knows what loopiness I will put myself through this time. Here is the reasoning of a mad woman... We had sex on the last day I had ewcm. I am ill, with bug that started about 5 days after this. One day I had pale yellow cm. And now my boobs are a tiny bit sore. I think, if my very crude reckoning is correct that AF should be here on Friday. But the rational part of me knows that anything could be going on, and all this, even the low immunity, could all be miscarriage related.
I have ordered some ic 's, which should hopefully come soon, which might be the most sensible thing I have done. yes I know they are crap, but there will be such a lot of poas going on this week, makes sense to pay 2.80 for 15 instead of at least that each time...

Jaffa I really sympathise. I hope the ic's come quickly and at least give you some answers.

My WTF cycle has resulted today in a really heavy, unplesant AF (5 weeks after induction of MM). Thus putting the brakes on my mad symptom spotting, obsesssing for another month.

I wasn't trying to SWI this month, but there was one evening of (slight) irresponsibility, and even though the chance was very, very remote, some of me still hoped nonetheless and i was still gutted.

I am beginning to undersand the metalling concept...

tas I'm so sorry. It's not fair. I have everything crossed that at least the treatment is gentle for you and you can find some space in the next three months to create a new, happier reality to bring your future babies into.

Jaffa You never know, of course, get the ICs in, focus on something proactive, and try not to metal too much.

Boris sorry about AF, but it's a good sign for future conception. Yes, the metalling is definitely the hardest part ....hang in there.

I'm having less metalling moments this week with having had the scan and having another booked in, it's lessening - just 2 days till the 12 week mark which I guess is a milestone even if it doesn't feel like one. Fairly easy on symptoms too, certainly feel better than I did with mini-toe - and more 'pregnant' too, if that makes any sense. Maybe it's wishful thinking or hindsight but who knows. I might just be kidding myself that this one feels more settled, somehow. My first metalling milestone is 14 weeks - March 13th. That's when I lost my first and when the problems began with mini-toe. Alternating between wanting the next couple of weeks to pass quickly and wanting them to slow to a stop so the inevitable can't happen again...

(Can't believe I said I was haveing less metalling) Oops Thanks for reading as always.

Jaffa fully agree ICs are devilish things but as they are so bloody cheap (in comparison to the other brands) it allows you to POAS till you hearts content without worrying about the cost of things. Hoping that you not driving yourself too loopy with it all though!

boris sorry AF got you but as missc said - hopefully now you know where you are with things and have a baseline for your next cycle, keeping it all crossed that you have positive news soon.

Well ladies I'm posting at this ridiculous hour because I have no idea what is going on inside me - my little one has been going haywire in there for the past 4/5 hours, all limbs every couple of minutes. Plus I feel sick and my tummy is all gurgly (I don't know if that's a word but you get where I'm coming from). Im thinking it's something I ate but DH and I have literally eaten the exact same meals today and he is totally fine, I rang the delivery suite and they said extra movement is fine it's less movement they worry about. They said I could come in if I was worried though, just had a hot drink and will see if I can sleep........if not it will be a nice trip to labour and delivery to have a trace done (again) but luckily we are at the magic 37 weeks today so hopefully I won't be given the premature birth speech which make DH panic - I'm quite chilled about it because I was 6 weeks early. Hopefully she will settle down in a minute and let me get some rest!!

Love to all xxx

Aww IQ I hope your LO settles down soon and you get some rest xx

I'm up as I'm pissed...

IQ I reckon she's just getting super-excited about her imminent birthday!

Up with the clearblue lark hoping my first pee of the day would bring some making-up-for-lost-time joy at 11 dpo after mc but no. It appears I am another victim of the WTF cycle. Budge up everyone, I'm going to stop loitering at the door and come in properly to make myself comfy.

Morning morning! Hello to everyone!

Well I have decided this bug is flu. I now have sore lungs, feels like they did when I was a smoker in my yoof.

iq hope you and mini iq are feeling better this morning. I would say follow your instincts, you are her mum, and you know what is normal. Maybe this is the start of it all for you! My DD was born 12 days early, but things started at 37 and a bit weeks. Not always true about first-timers being late. X

for tas. I can relate to your saying something horrible growing inside you - when I discovered Teddy had gone I veered wildly to just wanting it out - feeling repulsed by the idea of a little dead body in side me... and wanting desperately to cling onto the last precious day/hours with him. Such an awful time. And although 'different' kinda the same... It's not a horrible thing growing inside you - it's simply in the wrong place. It's bad luck that something beautiful is being turned into an ordeal but it's not a horrible thing. Nature made a mistake (as we all do!). How are you feeling today, physically at least?

jaffa Flu? That's just pants. Get better soon!

project 11dpo is quite early, yet. That's not to say you're NOT wtf'ing, but with DS2 I still had a stark white IC (most sensitive ones) at 12dpo. Not a hinit of anything. Didn't test again until 15dpo (I was considerably less metal then, I don't think I even knew what a moshpit was... ) when even then the line wasn't PAZOW! Er, yeah. So it's not over until the fat lady sings, right?

marbles How's the hangover you?

missC I think my metally moments calmed (but haven't vanished) around viability. I know it's a long way off but I think it's the 'curse' of a later loss. And, actually, it's not really that far off! It seems like yesterday you got your bfp and, look, you're almost at 12 weeks! Are you having the NT screening?

IQ I've no experience of babes that come early - my first two were induced for being lazy buggers late and DS2 was evicted arrived spontaneously at 40+2. As you'll already know the hospital would rather settle your fears with a trace and there be nothing wrong than have you fret at home and something is wrong. Perhaps she's just like her Mum? I don't mean arriving early... I mean doing a victory dance! She's term! It's a celebration, don'tcha know?!

pebs Hope the spotting just stops! And fingers crossed for a 3+

Well, here, DS2 is still ill. His high temp/sqidgey nappies for a few days has turned into a cough and streaming nose. But he's happy enough in himself so will hold off on going to the dr. I'm also going out to CHez Bruce again tonight and can't wait!

Then, tomorrow, Mum is down from Oop North. She's staying with my Aunt tomorrow, though, and will be with me Tuesday. Taking her to see The Wizard of Oz tuesday night (GUTTED Russell Grant has just taken over from Michael Crawford as the Wiz. From musical theatre royalty to the stars man from gmtv!)

Really wish baby would check in

tas hope you are ok. i have been thinking about you a lot. try not to worry about the three months delay, it might give you the space you need to get over this and start trying again. can you book a really nice holiday or something? that is something i have done to give me something to look forward to between mc and trying again. i have been to las vegas, a cruise and australia so all really good holidays. they really give me something else to focus on. i usually spend my 'baby savings' to do it or justify it by the extra money i will earn by not going on maternity pay when i expected to. i know everyone isn't as into holidays as me but i think it's good to have a plan. by the time you have had your wtf cycle you will be well into your three months - it will fly by.

i did a clearblue digi today and it came up with 3+. that is quite reassuring but where is this brown blood coming from?? it's driving me mad. i think i need to hide in the mosh pit all week until friday. i wish it was a real place!!

x-post with pebs Yay for 3+! Implantation bleeding can drag on - it's not that the baby is still implanting, that process takes about 4 days in total I believe, it's just that where ever it chose, may have caught the edge of a small vessel or something which slowly leaks until the placenta grows over it/or it just stops on its on. It's more than likely nothing at all to worry about.

And good call about using the three months constructively - I only said to DF the other day that I'm struggling physically with this pregnancy which has never happened to me before. I really don't think it's my age, more that I wasn't in a good place physically (or mentally, truth be told!) when I got pregnant. I really wish I'd used the time between the loss and getting pregnant to sort myself out properly (physically at least), got a little fitter, and pampered myself some. And we also went on holiday around six weeks afterwards! Here, it was fab. We took DS2 with, so wasn't relaxing but just the change and some nice weather was very welcome.

that looks lovely manda this one looks great

i ended up going on a cruise a week after my 20 week mc as i wouldn't have been able to sunbathe swim etc as i was still bleeding a bit. the cruise really filled my time up as it was a different city to explore everyday and the evenings were full of meals, casino, shows etc i would recommend one to anyone who doesn't want to sit around worrying about mc, ttc etc all day!.

i like the sound of your explanation for my spotting. lets hope it's something that simple.

it all started with that bloody uti i got on cd 23. this spotting started that day and i have only had a couple of days off from it since. it just seems to come when i wee but it's coming from my fanjo. i don't get anything on a pad or knickers.

it's good reassuring news about the 3+ though isn't it?

oh pebs that's a lovely message and a really good idea to go away. DH is talking about taking me away from it all! I am eating homemade cake right now, and as cake is a big love in my life, I'm ok right now.

Generally I'm pretty fed up and angry, going through all the "why meeeeeee!!???", fed up at being left all weekend to stew. The lovely nurse was talking about me coming in today (Sunday) and having more bloods to keep an eye on me, but the crappy doc just said come back Monday and don't be alone at the weekend (essentially in case I collapse). Great. I'm going to take 2 weeks off work, but I've only been back a couple of months after 3 wks off for the MMC. I've never had so much time off sick in my life.

pebs the 3+ is good, but keep an eye on everything (don't know why I said that, that's all you'll be doing!! ) Quite a few friends have had full on bleeding and cramps (including a sudden BFN!) and everything was fine. Though once you've had a bad experience, no pregnancy will be stress free, keep us posted.

i found out about my two mc's on fridays and hated that being left all weekend thing as well. it's awful. i ended up ringing the samaritans at one low point as i didn't know who else to speak to - amazing what mc can do to you. luckily a nice woman answered and she just listened whilst i told her my story. it was really nice actually to tell a stranger and not get silly comments like some 'helpful' friends/family try to make.

i know bosses don't always see it this way but pregnancy related sickness shouldn't affect your sickness record at work legally. they can't use it for disciplinary etc. at my work you get put on a report after three episodes of sickness in a certain timeframe but anything pg related is ignored. i wouldn't even class this as sick leave. i would never mention it if i went for another job etc.