Just MC and ready to try again? Pregnant after MC and seeking somewhere safe to hide? Come on down to the shiny new baby-friendly MOSH PIT.

[MarthasHarbour]

There's cake for scoffing, backs for patting, and screeching death metal for all your METALLING moments. All welcome!

Our last thread reached 1000 posts so i hope you have all found your way here! I have steaming hot chocolate croissants (or as my colleague said 'chocolate pasties'), blueberry muffins, grapefruit segments and hot buttered toast for brekkie!

Settle into the mosh pit, we have special VIP area's for those on the 2WW, the new bumps metalling with segregated areas for the first/second/third trimesters and the club class cocktail bar for those who have just got AF and can get-pissed let loose for the first two weeks!

Piemistress 90% pay for 26 wks!!!! [faints]

Oh, tas hang in there. Obviously you're gonna jump to Worst Case Senario, but yes, it's possible to bleed (and quite a bit), be crampy and for all to be well. I hope this is the case for you (when yousay 'bleed' is it pretty full on or more spotting/on wiping?)

What time is the scan tomorrow? Will be thinking of you!

When I had DS1, pie I got 26 weeks at 90% and then took another 26 unpaid. then I returned when he was a year old for just long enough I didn't have to pay it back and then left!

tas thinking of you tonight x

thanks ladies! It's not a scan tomorrow, I wish it was! My HCG levels aren't high enough, so it's just a blood test to see what's happening. I'm just relieved it's unlikely to be ectopic.

The bleeding is similar to what happened when AF was due last week - one gush of blood, then just a bit of bleeding, then very little (just pink when I wipe). It's not MC bleeding, but then after a MMC, I don't have much faith in anything - bleeding is bad, not bleeding is bad too.

I'll pop back tomorrow when the nurse calls

tas FX for tomorrow, hang on in there it could be anything.

And as for you manda as if i would let you ANYWHERE near my fanjolina with a dildocam.... some things are sacred y'know. but i do like your idea of a travelling sonographer!

Lying in bed all achey but laughing at Martha and Manda!

far big congrats - hoping that with your care plan things will continue on like this for you!!!

pie my mat works out to something similar and it was definitely a relief as going from two good incomes to one would have been a shock to the system to say the least!!

tas keeping it all crossed for you, whatever the outcome were all here for you!! Xx

Jaffa good to see your keeping your spirits up!!

Manda & Martha clearly a comedy duo......brilliant stuff!! When I read Manda's post the first thing that popped into my head was Mary poppins and her magic carpet bag, I think you would need something like that to be a travelling sonographer!!

I had my 36 week check today,there was a student in there with her and she did most of the checking (was very thorough but gentle so i have no complaints). One thing that is now playing on my mind is that she said I had a shallow pelvis, clearly I made a face as she quickly went on to say that it was something that was quite common in.......but didn't finish her sentence. Now it might just be me but I was thinking that she was going to say 'quite common in black women' but didn't want to offend me. Now it's playing on my mind........it's so hard to concentrate and talk through things when all your really waiting for is to hear the heartbeat!! Now I'm wondering what she meant to say and whether that means anything different for me.......oh metal metal metal!!!!!

evening all

IQ wow 36 weeks!! not long left now!! will this be the first thread birth or has there been a few before your good self? im sure maybe the student had felt she was making some sort of offensive comment or somesuch...would you like me to do a little Google detective work so see how common/what difference it would make etc having a shallow pelvis would be for labour/birth etc im up and about and overtired so google is in use at the min saves you metalling about it and being scared silly by google stories galore? either that or give your MW a quick call for advice/reassurance on it?

tas sorry you have had some more bleeding i hope the EPU can give you some good news tomorrow xx

hope everyone else is ok

manda and martha you two!! very funny stuff

tas I am very sorry to hear your news and hoping for the best possible outcome.

pie that is fab news about the mat leave, yay!
waves to poppy

thanks for all the congrats, today would have been my due date so this is proving a welcome distraction :)
marble many thanks for the tip on heparin, first self administered jab went well this am and dare I say it, even less painful than when the nurse did it!

insomnia can you call your midwife and find out what the doc meant? It might be a bit like having a retro uterus which is also really common and does not mean anything, 1/3 women have it. Can't believe you are 36 weeks already, wow! Other people's pregnancies seem to go very quickly, probably not for you though!

Test line a little darker as well this morning but I am going to stop testing now as it just fuels the menkul.
Does anyone think its worth have HCG betas done? My consultant has offered but again, I don;t want to fuel the menkul anymore than I need to.

p.s. I have just spat my tea all over my keyboard at the idea of manda and martha's travelling fanjolina and cupcake business.

martha any more more news on the testing front?

i had a bit of brown spotting again last night :(. i am trying to ring epu but the number is engaged. will have to try again later.

not really sure if it's anything to worry about but these things don't exactly fill me with confidence.

i have got my scan next friday so i might see if they can bring it forward a few days for me. i should be 6 weeks on sunday, i am going to do a clearblue digi to see if it says 3+ on sunday.

tas and Pebs I am thinking of you

pebspop hope that it's all ok for you, it's impossible not to worry a bit, but it is normal - friends have had full on cramping and bleeding and it's been ok.

IQ 36 wks, that's very exciting, gives me hope

far glad the injection wasn't too awful. With getting more tests, I don't know what's right for you, and I don't know your past experiences, but for me, (after MMC) I'd rather know early on if it's good or not, but it is a kind of torture either way, all my fingers and toes are crossed for you

My temp dropped this am, back down to 35.9 (which never seems to fit on the charts!) so looks like the fat lady is singing. Mind you it did this early on in the pregnancy, before I did a test and then 20mins later (before I got out of bed) it was back up to 36.6. I'm irrationally clinging onto a small shred of hope but really the fat lady is singing. I feel ok, this is a lot better than finding out at the 12 wk scan after not even a spot of blood or any other sign something was wrong. I never had any serious hope with this pregnancy.

Chart experts - can I start charting my temps again now? I don't have to wait for a 'real cycle'? Also my GP had given me some blood test forms, to look at PCOS and peri menopause - I'm assuming I can't do them now as this isn't a normal cycle.....is that right?

I am having the worst mood swings today, raging one moment and sobbing the next, I have no idea why, but I am a bit achey and crampy, - day 14 of cycle so who knows, maybe a wft cycle? Whatever it is I feel soory for DP who has got the brunt of it online this morning.

Now to read through the rest of the thread.

tas it is impossible not to worry. i am trying to be chilled out as no-one can do anything anyway. what will be will be. dh was saying last night that surely we can't have a 'bad luck' mc after being disgnosed with a problem (which has affected later pgs for me). surely we can't be that unlucky. but maybe we can.

to be honest i would have been ov'ing next week if i wasn't pg so i don't feel like i am missing out on much. not sure if you girls with later mc's will understand but i had a feeling that i had wasted so many months being pg and nothing to show for it. at least i will have only missed one cycle if this goes wrong. sorry if that sounds really bad for the girls with very early mc's. i know they are all bad but the waste of time really plays on my mind. i have been pregnant for nine months of my life now and still no baby.

i don't think i would dare to temp at the moment. i have never temped in pg so wouldn't really know what to expect as normal for me.

just managed to get through to epu the nurse said just to try not to worry and come for my scan next friday. i know theres nothing they can do so i will try to chill out.

pebs and tas thinking of you both today

far i quite like the sound of a 'retro uterus' - sounds quite funky in a 60s stylee! (if it wasnt such a serious subject of course)

IQ you know what, i think she probably did mean that, some people are rather tetchy about referring to a persons colour, almost like political correctness gone bonkers. Whereas you just wanted her to come out with it to stop you metalling!! Anyway, you get those feet up and relax, make the most of the last month of freedom!!

manda and martha's travelling fanjolina and cupcake business - you know that could catch on

i havent tested, gave myself a bollocking for testing yesterday, see we only DTD once this month and that was on valentines day so i reckon it was past OV (or right on - who knows..) if AF isnt here by Tuesday i shall test, i reckon i am due on Monday.

pebs i know EXACTLY what you mean, i feel that i wasted four months of not TTC last year (i was 3 months pg and didnt SWI for a month after the MC). Also when i mention that we have been trying for over a year i can see my mother going as she doesnt count prior to the MC IYSWIM, she reckons we started trying in May giving it over six months, not that it is any of her fecking business anyway!

I know exactly what you mean too! I've been pregnant for 19/20 months of my life and only have one child. It's such a waste.

Pebs, totally get it. I was pregnant from April to August last year, and i feel I have lost so much time. I was so upset after that I waited a few more months before ttc, which I regret now. Now I just want to be pregnant again. I wanted to have my children close in age, which isn't going to happen now. I am a sahm, and want to go back to work at some point, but don't want to and then get pregnant straight away. It's a mess.

It's bad news, it's ectopic. I'm going in on Monday for the injection (methrotrexate or sth). I'm only 5 and half weeks so hoping it's unlikely anything dramatic will happen over the w/e. I am fed up of the sight of that hospital. Though the nurse was lovely. Doc was not. Only upside is the crappy doc didn't do the internal. I can't believe our luck, it is so crappy.

pebs I totally get the wasted time as well. I have to wait 3 mths before TTC after the injection. More time wasted.

Oh tas I'm sorry

Oh, Tas, you poor, poor thing. I am so sorry you and your DP are having to deal with this. There is nothing else I can say. Hopefully the fact that the ectopic pregnancy has been found so early is a good thing for your future health, but that aside, it is so very sad, and terrible bad luck. In January, I had the whole low hcg is it viable/miscarriage/ectopic mindfuck thing, and have been feeling so very sorry for you. And this is how it has worked out for you. It's just not fair. Sending you big hugs. You are in my thoughts tonight x

I know what you mean too! I worked out that I have spent 56weeks on pregnancies that didn't work out DD was in there for 3 days short of 42weeks so altogether it's been 98 weeks altogether... The rest of the time I have been TTC pretty much...since early 2005(with18 months after DDs birth getting ready for my wedding not TTC) it's weird thinking of it like that

Oh no tas I'm so sorry to hear your awful news I hope you are being well taken care of xx