TTC for 10+ months, part 5

[MuddyWellyNelly]

Filled up our old one, I'll put our updated list on a separate post so that it's not a huge chunk of text at the top of every page.

Old thread here. Newbies always welcome, much as we'd like to hope nobody ever gets to this stage of TTC!

Morning all, still limiting my computer use as much as possible, so am mostly reading rather than posting. We're in the 2ww now, with 2 possible days for ov, as my temp went up, stabilised, then jumped up again.

I spent some time last night reading about IUI, and it seems like it wouldn't be suitable for us, particularly as we'd have to self fund at about £900 a go. I'll just have to keep being patient. We seem to have started at a similar time - Sept 2010. I don't want to work out how many months that is.

I had a nice meeting at the weekend with a graduate from this thread and her baby. Was really nice to meet up with someone who'd been through the stress of long term ttc, and get some baby cuddles. We'll get there in the end too, I'm sure of it!

Morning everyone

ladyg fingers crossed for next tuesday - I am very excited for you! really hope your embryo is getting settled in.

joyce so sorry you are feeling down. AF can't be helping I'm sure. I too am rhesus negative and have wondered if that has something to do with it, but googling suggests it doesn't cause issues till late in pg. Have you tried anything to change your cycle length - acupuncture or agnus cactus maybe?

nelly welcome back, your holiday sounds fab - hope the skis have turned up! glad that your OH took to skiing too.

euro wow, getting close to IVF! where are you off to on hols?

wine sorry to hear about your dream and your chat with your dad. I do honestly think a solution will be found, the more you find out about what is going on inside you the closer you get to finding a solution.

izzy hope your prog result works out well - is it wednesday again for the results?

fatima wow EC on friday! that's fantastic. Sorry you are feeling uncomfortable but it means it's working I guess!

lemon I'll be interested to hear about the IUI. I wonder if that might be our next step. (presumably we'll need to have lots more tests first though ).

waves to everyone I have missed!

My AF has arrived on cue . It's a bit of an odd one though, no cramps at all, and (tmi) not really blood but, erm, sludge instead. Maybe acupuncture effect? Who knows.

Ladies,

I hope you don't mind me jumping in but I just wanted to share my story - I have lurked on your thread for the last few months, although never had the guts to post and always drew a lot of support and encouragement from your stories and from the BFPs which came from time to time.

Anyway, I thought I might introduce myself TTC#1 for a total of 23 months, pg in Oct 10, mc in Dec 10, ttc again since Feb last year and just got a BFP yesterday after cycle 13 - it does happen, although I have to admit that I am still in total shock and denial after all this time, specially after what happened last time around. But I now at least have the confidence to believe that my body still knows how to get pg, which I had kinda lost faith in over the last 6 months or so.

Anyway, I hope that doesn't sound like me bragging, I only wanted to say thanks for encouraging me and give you a positive story. I wish you all the luck in the world, and BFPs for all!

Hello wellieboots and huge congratulations to you, that is lovely news and I wish you all the best. Thank you also for coming on to share your story. I get very despondent when I read about it taking other ladies an age to conceive and often they only conceived through IVF, you experience is very uplifting

joycep Hope that you are alright and sending you AF hugs. I totally understand you feeling like you are waging a battle. Crackpot alert but when my AF arrived I actually said out loud "Game Over, you lose. Again". Talking to the toilet surely must be a sure sign of having lost the plot!

I researched peri-menopause when my AF came and made myself cry too!
Anyway, I hope you are feeling better and we will get there. We have to!

lisa Have you done a test???? Devious smiley

izzy Happy belated birthday and hope you enjoyed your spa treat.

nelly So glad that your ski trip was fun but sorry that it was a little overshadowed by preggo announcement. Second pregnancies hit me hardest too. Have you heard from the hospital yet?

gin I agree about how being upset about something always ends up coming back to TTC. So are you definitely going to have treatment at Create? Is it cheaper than usual IVF if you don't mind me asking?

wine and freedom your dreams sound horrible and upsetting. I have twice dreamt about getting a BFP and that was awful enough. Usually I dream that I am bringing up someone else's children.
wine I'm sorry that you were upset about your dad talking about adoption. Funnily enough my mum has just done that to me on the phone. She got all upset when I told her we would not consider adoption and couldn't understand our decision on it.

lemons glad that your arm is a little better. I didn't realise that you were waiting for imminent IUI. Golly!!!

minnie Commiserations on your AF. Weirdly I have had mainly sludge and brown blood this month. If I hadn't have had so much period pain I would be peeing on a stick wondering.

ladygee how are you? I'm praying that your little emby has set up permanent residence.

Fatima Good news on your follicles and FX for Friday!

Reenypip Thanks for sharing your story too. Can I ask whether you conceived naturally?

Well all is slightly less doomy in the house of doom but still feel a bit teary since AF. Think that I am just stressing out about my upcoming appointment and am feeling the pressure to make sure that it is a successful appointment.

I had my repeat blood test which was a bit of a balls up. There was an error with the blood test form and the test I needed to have wasn't even on the form though apparently every other blood test known to man seemed to be...hence the endless vials of blood that was needlessly drawn! Oh how I laughed......not.

Fatima I felt like that on my second round of the Letrozole. I could hardly walk! It sounds like your follies are doing what they need to.

We've been trying since December 2010. We're on our 16th cycle now. This thread was started when most of us were around 5 or 6 cycles into this and there have been disappointingly few BFPs for us since then. So wellie it is always nice to hear a story of a good outcome for a long term ttcer! I am feeling quite positive today, so I am convinced we will all get there eventually. (Give it a week until the PMT hormone crash hits and I will be back spouting DOOOOOOOOOOOOM....)

mini We're off to the Caribbean (don't want to be more specific on here as it is a tiny place and I have been shouting about it at work!). I can't wait.

Sorry that AF has arrived. Acu has made my AF much less clotty. It's very liquid now and my period is much shorter (I guess simply because that takes less time to make its way out). Also, I think I read somewhere that cramps can be caused by clots trying to get through the cervix. That would make sense for me as my cramps are less severe now my AF is more liquid and less clotty.

ladygee I hope all is well. When will you be testing?

Hi to everyone else. I'm 6dpo here. Not feeling in the least bit pregnant. But then last month I was feeling like something was happening at this point and of course that turned out to be nothing, so who knows what is happening.

Just a quick post to say hospital called with my blood results. Progesterone was 36 so she says i definatley ovulated it was just very late (no change there then!). She said my period should come by beginning of next week and to do 50mg clomid again as before. No IF your period comes etc so quite disheartened like she expects it to fail!!

grrrrr, just spent ages typing a long post and now it's gone. I hate it when that happens.

pout I saw your thread about endo. It might be worth also posting on the general health board because not everyone looks on conception and I'm sure there are loads of ladies on mn with experience of endo.

Just lost my thread too. It hasn't done that in ages and lulled me into a false sense of security about not copying it in Word first!

Good idea about the general health board, I'll do that. Thank you

How are you today?

Hello ladies, just checking in. So sorry about sad dreams, adoption chat, sore arms, tears, ERTD and all the other trials we are going through. But ETs and ECs are exciting, and as for those of you with the abnormal periods - well, I'd be testing. That's all I'm saying. However as we've mentioned rather a lot on here, our "symptoms" don't turn into the BFPs in the same way as other MNers, so I am sorry for the uncharacteristic optimism!

Shagging continues in the Nelly household. I was feeling a bit down when I went to bed last night, partly the PG announcement, partly post holiday blues and partly it's very dreich here right now which always depresses me. Anyway luckily OH had his enthusiastic head on, as I really couldn't be arsed with sex, but he persuaded me.

Still no word from the hospital which is kind of annoying, makes me wonder if I'm lost in the system. Just how hard can it be to go "oh ok here is a form, they need 1 hour with a consultant - ah yes there is a slot 3 weeks on Tuesday, send the letter out, job done". I'm not much of a fan of public "service"

Great news on the progesterone result izzy. Always nice to have reassurance that a key part of the process is working!

Glad to hear you are feeling a bit more upbeat pout but can't believe the tests were screwed up. See my comment above re public service!

Very jealous of your holiday euro, I am hoping we might get out there a bit later in the year, the down side of a great holiday is as soon as you get home you feel the urge to book the next one.

Anyway if MN is eating posts I will submit this before it gets too long!

Hi everyone,

I had my pre-operation appointment today. Pretty much routine, except I asked what would happen if my period came between now and next week. Today is day 44 of my cycle and no sign of it yet. Initially the nurse said it would be okay, but then while I was taking bloods he rang up the consultant and spoke to her secretary, who said it would be extremely painful for me as in addition to the ovarian drilling, they are doing a hysteroscopy (where they look into my uterus). So they would probably not go ahead with the operation.

The nurse got me to phone the secretary from the hospital. She informed me that the consultant would normally write me a prescription to stop my period but that I would have had to be taking it for 7 full days pre-op, so that wasn't an option. I went off home depressed with a promise that she will phone the consultant and then ring me with more information.

When she rang, it was to say I am to come in as normal and they will make the decision on the day depending on how heavy my period is if it does arrive. I have been praying all day for it to start so that it is over with by next week, but of course no joy.

Despite everyone being exceptionally nice, I am a bit put out that they did not foresee this given my erratic periods will be in my medical notes. It would not have been mentioned at all if I did not ask the question myself. But perhaps I am taking this too personal or being too negative.

It did not help that the blood nurse took four attempts to get blood and with each attempt worked the needle round in the hope of hitting a vein. I am pretty good with needles, but today it was very hard to take.

All in, a pretty rubbish day.

Hi ladies,

I?ve just returned from a sunny European mini break so have missed a few days, will do my best to catch up.

Firstly hugs to joycep hope you are feeling a bit better? You are doing loads of good work with your low GI diet and you are making progress every day towards your BFP. I know it doesn?t feel that way but you will get there. And more hugs to wine. Did you manage to get your appointment with the consultant? Final round of hugs to pout and glad you got your date for the gynae clinic.

nelly so glad you had a brilliant time skiing, it sounds marvellous, but sorry about the disappearing skis and the preg announcement brunch ? humph. I wish when people did those announcements they would tell us by text or email so we could just deal with them in our own way rather than having to feign delight.

whatmess sorry about your crappy day, it is so annoying when it?s you that has to remind the medical people about potential concerns. I really hope your period comes in time; how long do they usually last?

euro have a wonderful holiday. Enjoy swimming in the lovely warm sea :)

pout I always research peri-menopause when my period starts! It?s because I get hot flashes and night sweats for a couple of days each month, and I once read somewhere that it?s a symptom of the peri-menopause starting. However my acu lady reckons it?s just PMS/?yin definiciency? and I think I prefer her explanation. Oh and totally agree about ?giving up? TTC, I have never understood it when people say ?oh we gave up and then it happened? how the F are you supposed to give up if you?re not using contraception?

Aaargh at the adoption conversations, wine and pout. I had to deal with a very annoying ?just relax? lecture from my MIL yesterday. She means well but I tried to explain why it isn?t helpful advice, pointing out that it makes me blame myself and also makes me want to shoot the advice-giver, but nooo, she had to plough on. I told her that we may be starting IVF soon, in the hope that that would shut her up, but it barely seemed to register. I think I will just have to close my ears in future. It?s just the most utterly bollocks advice I?ve ever heard, and yet everyone feels we need to hear it.

at ?well I grow periods ? lots of them?

wellieboots thanks for sharing your story, and congratulations on your BFP.

fatima massive amounts of good luck for your egg collection ? eeek!

ladygee you sound so calm and balanced. I?m glad you are filling your time and enjoying the hopefulness. Am visualising a snuggly cosy embie settling in.

gin glad you have got your first appointment in ? exciting, I?m looking forward to hearing about the mild IVF. Your story about your DH telling his mates made me smile. My DH has not wanted to tell anyone but I can totally imagine him just deciding to announce it to all and sundry one day in the pub.

Waves to everyone else, izzy, minipie, stasi, mrsd, lemons, freedom and others I?ve no doubt missed.

Well as for me, I was due to ovulate while we were away, but I?m not sure it happened. I had a +OPK on Saturday (amazon cheapie) but didn?t seem to have any EWCM and I normally get loads. So I?m wondering if it was an anovulatory cycle. Wish I?d temped, but I couldn?t be bothered on holiday. We did do a bit of shagging, but I?m not even slightly hopeful.

When we got back from our travels we had our letter from the IVF clinic and that bloody questionnaire about how long we?d lived together! . Oh and a snotty bit about how if we haven?t replied within 14 days they will assume we?re not interested and cancel our referral. Jeez. So I need to get that sent off and get the NHS wheels turning.

I wasn't very good at switching off from TTC over the weekend. It was running through my mind and I felt quite maudlin after a couple of drinks.

Speaking of which, all my bragging about my new healthy complexion is over, after a few days of wine and naughty food the puffy face is back! Booo.

Waves and will type more tomorrow.

Oh whatmess, what a shite day. Can't believe you had to point out to them that af might arrive. Maybe it won't turn up and all will be fine? Big hugs.

nelly boo to post holiday blues but well done on the shagging! Keep it up (boom boom).

I am VERY jealous of your holiday euro and I reckon it sounds well worth delaying ivf for! I think it's important to feel ready and also to properly enjoy your holiday.

pout Pleased to hear all is less doomy but grr to wrong blood tests! I'm pretty sure we will go with create as I like their approach. I want to do mild ivf - ivf with no down regging and lower doses of the stim drugs. I get terrible migraine, so fewer drugs sounds good! It is a bit cheaper than normal ivf, as you need less medication (and the procedures come to about £600 less than the other clinic we looked at, altho not as cheap as the nhs/ out of London clinics). Natural cycle ivf is a lot cheaper but I think I'd like to give us a better chance than that. Typically we need icsi so the most bloody expensive kind they do! Do have a look at their website and feel free to ask me any other questions about it. Their open day was really informative.

lemons and mrsd we began trying in July 2010 too.. Feels a very long time ago now... Now we have a way forward, I'm feeling better about stuff. I know icsi is the only chance I have of getting pregnant. Don't know how I'd cope if it didn't work though...

wellie what a lovely story. Congrats!

Great news about the follies fatima. Was it you who's egg sharing? Hope you are taking it easy and good luck for ec.

ladyg are you going to do a sneaky pee stick before blood test day? Not sure I could resist. My fingers are massively crossed for you!

stasi your meeting with the grad sounds lovely. Must be nice to talk to someone in rl who understands how we feel.

mini have to admit I'd be peeing on a stick if I were you but I am a bit addicted to pee sticks [see comment above to ladyg]

Helllloooo to everyone else. Am posting on my phone and looking like a total pig dog on way home from yoga. Lucky it's nowhere near shag week cos I'm pretty sure mrgin wouldn't come anywhere near me right now!

Ooo x post with kitty - hi!

And wine meant to ask when do you get MRI results? I've heard sooo many stories from people who had fibroids removed & got pregnant that I'm sure it will happen for you too.

evening ladies

sorry about all the AF's mini I've just finished AF and it was different, mainly spotting and then 2 days of bright red blood, no clots and no cramps. This is my first AF since I started Acupuncture and very different from the usual, do you take herbs as well??

fatima good luck for EC

Ladyg fingers crossed for you

Waves and hugs to everyone else :)

Quick post as a) I need a wee and have been sat lazily on the sofa feeling very guilty for watching the supersize/skinny prog which I think is very wrong and yet can't take my eyes off. And b)I'm soo tired after dh couldn't sleep last night and rolled and rolled around and then read and so on. But I'll do a proper post tomorrow as lots to say/reply to. I rang the nurse today to told that my MRI results hadn't been processed and it could be weeks. I said that I was starting to feel very anxious and finding it very hard to be so in limbo about a growth I'd known about since december. I feel that she is very caring and does listen because she rang me back an hour later with a date for the 13th March to get feedback on what happens next. It still feels very slow but I know it really isn't and could have been a lot worse. But more limbo for a fortnight. Massive wave and loves to everyone and catch up tomorrow.

Ps whatmess sorry it's been a shitty day with appointments. Muchos empathy. I hope your period comes very soon. I don't get to say that very often on here!

Quick post as noticed there were 666 posts on thread and wanted to change it! Boo to more useless medical professionals whatmess and wine. Why does it take so long and require us to perform our own NHS audit

Hello to everyone else!

wine - you are always such a support with always lovely words even hen you are going through a shitty time yourself . But thank you so much was so down the last few days but coming out the other end now. I don't understand why they are taking so long with your results. It's so infruriating for you . Grrrr. How are you feeling about it all?

lady - you don't sound like a woman who has just had ivf! You sound so calm and collected. I'm sorry none of your others were frozen but as you say you have your little bean to look after so don't worry about any of that.

mrsd - I think I have found out that 7wks is far too early for blood types to mix so I think it is ok. Panic over. But I guess it's good to be aware. I am very ashamed to say I have never given blood but I enrolled yesterday. I was actually reading about Amanda Holden needing 15pints when she gave birth and how there wasn't enough at the hospital. It really made me think I should be giving it. I don't know whether you can when TTC though???

fatima - fab about your ovaries! Very exciting.

stasi - did you meet someone from the 10+ thread in RL?! How amazing!

mini - sorry about AF. That's good about no cramps. I am sure that's the acupuncture doing its stuff.

wellie - what an amazing story! Thank you for sharing. I love these kind kid stories, it can give so much hope when at times there is not much hope to muster.

pout - talking to the loo sounds kind of normal to me! I look up to the heavens and say "why god why?!". Yup Jeremy Vile's sofa is getting ever closer. I have a book on the menopause and pre-menopause - I think I am just going to prepare myself for the absolute worst now. I am trying to control symptoms through progesterone application but still my period couldn't wait to come. Sorry you are still teary. It's stressfull going for appointments. What are you being tested for with this blood test?

nelly - sorry you have been down. Is there anyway you can chase somebody about your appt?

whatness what a crappy day you have had. I'm sorry, I hope tomorrow is much better.

kitty - sorry you had to endure the MIL relax chat. Will never cease to amaze me how many people like to give this advice! It makes my blood boil. It's so hard to switch off from TTC. I feel even more pressur when I am away because cause I know it is suppose to happen when you are away and relaxed.

Have a question. I got rid of my boil. Yippee. But started developing pain at the back entrance yesterday. Getting progressively worse during the day to sit down. Have a taken a mirror to the area tonight and I think I have a massive haemmorroid. It looks like a flipping growth. I normally get fissures rather than piles so I can just add this to my growing list of problems. But does anyone know what I should do?? Do I have to get it looked at. It is very painful! FFs I get rid of my thrush and it is replaced by haemmorroid and boils!!! Told DH to just leave me before things get worse. I am turning into a massive problem.

joy I've had these too, lovely aren't they?! I find a couple of days of anusol (what a horrible name!) does the trick. You can buy it from most places. Think I got mine in Asda! I can't bear to have another part of me prodded by the dr, so I self medicate and it seems to work... Think you're also meant to eat lots of fibre, to avoid straining but I find too much can give me a sore bum too! Sorry if tmi

Joycep so glad that you are feeling a bit better. Sorry about your haemarrhoid (sp?) problem. whispers I still have mine from a month ago, albeit a lot smaller, but and am too chicken to go to the doctors
I have a problem with little tears from time to time too & wonder whether that's what started my latest growth off. I reckon do what gins suggests and try some anusol and if that doesn't send it packing go to the doctors then. Also agree that while fibre is a good thing to avoid straining I would also avoid going too far the other way because I read that diarrohea can cause & worsen haemarrohoids too.
Blood test was my repeat ESR following on from my last one which was elevated.
at "I am turning into a massive problem"

euro I too am coming into the optimistic phase of my cycle. I think it is the constant swinging from wildly optimistic to absolute despair over the course of the month that is such a problem with TTC. I also feel strangely optimistic after getting feedback to my endo thread and actually feel that I might finally get some answers.
Your holiday sounds amazing and just the ticket before starting IVF.

izzy Am pleased that you got a good progesterone result. How is your back?

Nelly How long have you been waiting for your letter? I wonder whether you ought to chase this up. I had a hospital letter get lost in the post recently which mean't that I missed my original hospital appointment. They were really arsey with me about it too like it was my fault

mess Oh FGS about your period thing. I don't like slagging off the NHS because there are some really great & wonderful NHS professionals but sometimes I just feel that the actual "system" lets these good people down as much as the patients. What bugs me is that if you hadn't have asked you'd have been none the wiser. What also bugs me is being made to feel like you are a pain in the arse if you ask too many questions. I was saying to DH the other day how nothing is transparent enough and nothing is explained to you. I have no idea what my GP has written in my referral, it could say how I am PITA for all I know!
Anyway, am doing a period dance for you

kitty Hope that you had a good break.
About your sweats, when do you get them? I always get chills before period and then night sweats for the the first few days of bleeding.
Sorry for your MIL just relax comments. It is such guff that whole relax thing. My mother regularly spouts it.

Gin I hadn't thought about the fertility drugs worsening migraine. I will watch with interest how you get on at Create.
at PigDog

wine I am aghast that you are being left hanging like this. A few weeks to get your results is disgusting. Of course you need answers to what the heck is going on in your body and I can't believe that it is considered acceptable to let you just worry like this for weeks. Are you still in pain too? Big hugs to you and roll on the 13th March.

Big waves to lisa and lemons and minnie and everyone else I've missed.

I'll keep this brief as I am having a busy day but I just wanted to say I had a bit of a revelation yesterday when talking to a friend (who knowns about our troubles) and mentioning that now every single one of my friends has kids or is pregnant. Not that the last couple of BFPs have sunk in, I actually feel better. I'm last. So what? I'm no longer dreading the next announcement because everyone around me is pg or already has kids. I don't have the stress of noticing who is drinking and who is not and might be making an announcement next time we meet. It's easier somehow. I don't feel like I need to rush any more. I am last. Who cares by how much? It's odd but it somehow feels easier now.

Thanks gin and pout! Just been to pharmacy to get anusol. Why do they have all the embarrassing creams behind the counter? I ama regular in this little pharmacy and m sure the pharmacist gave me a pitied look - I have bought pregnancy sticks in there and clearly not preggars , thrush cream and pile cream over the last year.
Pout - same as you . I have had issues with tears. I hve been trying to go everyday the last week after reading that infrequent bowel movement is linked to the reproductive area. So I have been good about eating fibre and now this has happened. Perhaps will bung myself up again so I only go every 3 days like normal.

Sorry don't mean to turn this lovely TTC thread into a haemmorroid one!!!

Euro - that's a very posit e outlook . Last is best anyhow!!

joycep I am just glad you could read it. I can see now that it is full of typos!

Sorry to hear about your pain in the bum! I think it was on this thread I was complaining of similar before Xmas. I got to the point where I couldn't even contemplate how I was going to get to the drs to get help. Even walking from one end of the house to the other was agony. I've never had the like before!

We are such a glamorous lot aren't we? pigDogs, to steal gin's phrase!!

Sorry you are feeling so down joycep. I will steal the wise words of wine and echo them.

euro I just read another thread you posted on about not drinking when TTC. I'm gutted to think this, but I really reckon I need to give it a try. Not sure I'll persuade OH though. He thinks that as his SA results were normal he can do what he wants

I might chase up on my letter by the end of the week as that will be 3 weeks. Is that unreasonable? I can't tell.

Can't believe you got the same irrelevant questioning kitty. It's still making me angry

nelly I would chase. I have got much further with making headway when I have been a massive pain in the arse and also cried phoned to chSe things. If I hadn't chased I think I would still be waiting for the MRI. Is this your first consultant appointment? I wonder if by writing thread 666 I am cursed?

kitty grr to the r-e-l-a-x chat. It's a pity as I know it is always well meant but it's so unhelpful. I was talking to my parents (who are ace about everything really) about the gazillions of people who I've been told about (like my friend of a friends neighbours long lost auntie lil etc) stop trying and fall pregnant. I just don't buy it. The only way I could really give up and be as I was, would be to go on the pill. I have come to expect a baby less than a lottery win, but that isnt the same as stopping trying. Every month we have unprotected sex, I will always wonder if I could be up the duff. Always. My period might not be the gut wrenching blow it was in the early days, but it will always be a little bit rubbish.

joycep bum sympathy. They are horrible. Your chemist story did make me laugh though. I mortifyingly got nits once from the kids at school and told the pharmacist it was for my younger (made up) sister! Our pharmacy is always very busy but the man always makes a point of saying very loudly - have you had this before, are you aware of the following side effects, whilst waving the packet for everyone to see I have cystitis/thrush/the shits. Hurray for lowering the tone!

Ladygee huge hugs to you. I hope you're ok.

euro I think you should crack open the champagne at being last and able to mop up all of the advice and perhaps hand me downs. And I'm sure there will be babies no 2 so that you are kept bump company. Glad you are feeling on the up. I wish we weren't at the mercy of hormones.

pout glad you are feeling more optimistic too. Are you pushing for a lap and dye? It should tell you if it is endo. Have they offered that?

wellie thank you so much for your story. I hope I get to do the same one day and pass on words of hopefulness.

gin I think pigdog is a keeper!

Well a stats reports reveals that the thread, in spite of it not feeling like it, has consistenly produced, averaged out, one bfp for each month I have been here. I actually think this is pretty good as they have all been past the year mark. My latest dream was that God, (I'm an aethiest however that's spelt) told me he had put a baby in me for me to keep very safe and that it was up to me to keep it there by being very good. I woke up holding my tummy. Wtf!!!!!!! I am officially going insane. God looked a bit like gandalf. I am 8dpo today and have all symptoms, to the minute, that I have every month. Blah. It has really cheered me to see my VIP fertility friend expire. maybe coughing up for another year might bring on am ironic bfp.

Wave to all other ten plussers.

just popping on briefly (and very self centredly) to moan about the horrid AF I'm having. Did I say there were no cramps? Well I've now been hit with two days of awful cramps, and loads of clots, far more than usual. And I feel hot and dizzy.

If this is the effect of acupuncture I'm not impressed!