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TTC for 10+ months, part 5

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MuddyWellyNelly · 18/01/2012 20:51

Filled up our old one, I'll put our updated list on a separate post so that it's not a huge chunk of text at the top of every page.

Old thread here. Newbies always welcome, much as we'd like to hope nobody ever gets to this stage of TTC!

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poutintrout · 24/02/2012 15:14

wine much giggling at your Manchester. Grin

joycep Badge lady is a plant sent from the Coven to torment you either that or you will soon feature on some "hugely hilarious" prank show. Had to laugh at the notion that she will have "pregnant" stamped to her forehead tomorrow.

mrsd What is "giving up TTC"? That's the rub isn't it. I can't see myself ever giving up because we will never use contraception again so I will spend the rest of my pre menopausal years wondering each month. That for me is the scary part that I'm trapped in this cycle for the foreseeable.

ladygee I'm willing your little embryo to bed in Smile

freedom I'm gasping, spitting out bile tea and generally Shock at "I Grow People - What's Your Superpower?" Shock Shock Well "I grow periods, lots of them"
What a ghastly concept those badges are. Whatever next.

lemons hello and sending you get well vibes. Miss you!

lisa whispers, is it a period and scuttles off now I have planted such evil thoughts in your head Grin

AF has arrived in the house of doom. I have had the obligatory snotty meltdown, was evil to DH for a bit last night and now feel strangely better. I also have got a letter telling me I have an appointment for the second week in March at the Intermediate Gynae Clinic. Not sure whether this is for the scan or not and the receptionist wasn't clear so we'll see. New plan is to assume that I am currently impregnable, relax a bit on the baby making front for the sake of my sanity and push, push, push at the Gynae clinic for help & a way forward. Also am going to arm twist DH to get things moving here too. We still have DIY tasks to do owing to damp problem which has now been fixed so intend on finishing the painting, hire carpet cleaner and buy a new bed, make bunting and generally finish making this place feel like our home. Feel better already just planning it.

Waves to everyone I've missed. Smile

lisacn · 24/02/2012 16:23

pout well after 28 years of AF this is the strangest one I have ever had, hardly any mood swings or cramping, starting to feel a little cheated of the usual monthly misery, was going to see my GP but she thinks i'm an insane neurotic mare as it is so best not give her more proof of that fact, Grin its certainly nothing else as we had a rest from dtd this month, although now you've got me thinking I should poas, damn those evil thoughts,

I think we should go into our own badge making business, there certainly have been some good ideas on here :)

joycep · 24/02/2012 16:32

Lady - am willing the bean to bed in. I had no idea EC was so quick. I thought they had to cut you open again.
Freedom- hahah I hadn't seen that one! I didn't realise they get worse.
Pout grrrr at AF. But at least you have an appt now and sth to move towards. Think AF will be here for me soon. So bloody grumpy.

minipie · 24/02/2012 17:16

Just a quick post from me as I really need to get some work done... but I was just reading about Badge Lady and the Coven and it reminded me of

this video

which I think is kinda brilliant.

I can forgive most of the badges (as they mainly seem to be saying "i'm not fat") but the "I grow people - what's your superpower" one is just plain smug.

Unfortunately I think I have seen signs of pre-AF spotting (due on monday but last couple of months I've had a few days' spotting before). So I don't think this is my month .

ladyg sending snuggly thoughts to your lovely embryo. when can you POAS?

waves to everyone!

lisacn · 24/02/2012 17:30

mini love the video made me laugh :)

eurochick · 24/02/2012 18:01

joycep there's no incision for EC. (NB those of a delicate disposition should stop reading now) They just stick a giant hollow needle through the wall of your fanjo to reach your ovaries to extract the liquid collected in the follicles and hopefully all your eggs along with it. But you're high on drugs so don't care!

whatmess · 25/02/2012 07:43

Morning ladies,

Lady Sending you lots and lots of good luck and Fingers crossed Grin.

We are all feeling better in the messy household, and boy is it messy. A couple of weeks of sickness has really taken it's toll on my ability to keep house or to care.

The badges are a bit rubbish aren't they. I wouldn't mind them if they were witty, but they just state the obvious and are very me me me.

I'm currently waiting for AF, despite my positive OPK 19 days ago. I'm not pregnant, tested yesterday, only the once, promise Smile. It's just my stupid body doing it's neither here nor there thing again. Knowing my luck, AF will start when I'm due in for surgery. Oh well, what's one more indignity?

whatmess · 25/02/2012 07:52

In fact thinking more on the badges, I have just decided that when I finally do get pregnant, I am going to wear across my whole belly that says "Now, I'm F'in pregnant" and then walk round the office to show it off to all those idiots who have asked the question in the past.

izzybizzybuzzybees · 26/02/2012 20:42

Hi ladies. I am just checking in. Was away overnight last night in a spa hotel for a birthday treat. Had 2 hours of pampering treatments. Was bliss!

I have hospital at 9am tomorrow to do progesterone test again. I will be 7dpo according to my opk and ff so might get a more normal result!

Nothing else to say!

Reenypip · 26/02/2012 22:11

Hi, it took me 46 months until I got pregnant.

MuddyWellyNelly · 26/02/2012 22:35

Hello ladies! I am back from skiing in one piece, save for a slightly red nose! We had amazing weather and both have ski tans. We?ve had a great time, OH loved his first week on skis, ate and drank far too much and generally were really relaxed after it. Of course we know life doesn?t run smoothly. Cue a 4 hour delay at the airport, no sign of my skis 24 hours later, and friends round for brunch today; they surprised me with a pregnancy announcement. Hmm. Of course that brought me back to earth with a bump, especially as we have been trying since before their first was born. Second pregnancy announcements are I think worse than firsts?

Anyway, now to catch up on a good week?s worth of the thread?. Beware this will be patchy and in no order that makes any sense at all!

stasi glad the HSG went ok but sorry you aren?t really clear on what that means. Oh and holy shit about your cat!! That is the sickest thing I have ever heard, I actually very nearly threw up reading it. We used to live very close to you, and one of our's came home one day with a wound on his shoulder that hair has never grown over. We have our suspicions about that too. Your poor little cat, he looks lovely, no wonder he is so timid.

Loving all the Coven chat. And no offence caused by pout?s black humour ? gotta laugh or you?d cry! And serious amounts of laughing at the whirling boobs/putting them in the freezer! So sorry about your body playing cruel tricks on you. And that you are feeling down, it does go in cycles a bit and sometimes it just gets to the ?why me? wailing. But I like the sound of the DIY plan, anything to give you other things to focus on. That said, between holidays, wedding planning, trying to get house plans sorted, having a very poorly pony last year, etc etc I?ve had no end of distractions and it?s not worked for me, but it does make me feel a little better knowing I haven?t spent all of my TTC time staring dejectedly at pee sticks.

Going back to earlier chat, I for some reason never picked out prams or baby furniture. Ironically it was because I didn?t want to tempt fate (probably because my sister had problems conceiving) but perhaps it was just me being prescient. In a way though, I feel like I missed out on that joyful optimism. I didn?t really think I?d have the problems I have, but I always knew that it didn?t happen on demand for everyone. I?m not sure if that has saved me some heartache, or mean that I?ve felt slightly down on TTC ever since we started? Confused

lemon sympathies on trying to deal with AF one-handed! Hope it has now left again and you are starting to feel more comfortable.

Wow euro can?t believe you too are about to start IVF! It?s very exciting for everyone, but I know what you meant when you said you felt emotional about saying yes to it. I too feel like I?ll be admitting defeat when it gets to that stage. But it really isn?t. Despite the unbelievable smuggery of those badges, getting pregnant is not some super-power reserved only for the special ones. It?s just the lucky ones, and some of us have been less lucky, and need to call in reinforcements.

Hello to tiagio and freedom and mrshiggins, as always sorry you have to be here and have been having generally crap medical help so far.

I?m a little alarmed by the amount of sex you have all been having. I would say 6 times in a cycle is a lot for us! Perhaps I am relying far too much on the ovulation signs? In any case we had sex on Friday which was CD5, earliest we?ve done so far, so will suggest to OH that we keep it up (fnar) a bit more this month.

Hooray for the Maldives minipie, that sounds amazing!

Well done on surviving the MRI wine, I?m not sure I?d be able to do that. When do you hear back from the consultant?

mrsden I am so pleased you cat turned up again. One of ours is a similar home bird and went missing for a day last year. It was 4 days after I?d had my horse put to sleep, so my OH and I were inconsolable. She re-appeared in the bedroom at 3am as if nothing had happened, when I woke OH to tell him he kept repeating ?I?m so happy, I?m so happy? ? it was incredibly sweet actually :). I too snorted at the ceremonial unveiling of your tomb and the ?ooh look she was a Barren? imagery Grin. Even though it?s clearly not funny, but I guess my sense of humour has gone off a little.

OMFG to the pregnancy badge, can?t think of much worse!

Kitty eek at throwing wine down the sink. At the risk of fuelling fire, are you sure you aren?t pregnant Wink. That and glowing skin, these are the type of symptoms normal people have!!

Interesting at the stats about dads not being the dads! I am definitely the product of both of my parents. I?ve always looked uncannily like both of them and have inherited a real mix of their features. People always say ?oh you are so like your mum? and then meet my dad and change their minds!!

Hooray for ET ladygee fingers massively crossed for you!

What else? Oh well no response from the hospital yet on our appointment, at least a letter didn?t arrive while we were away as my Mum was house-sitting.

Anyway it has taken me about 3 hours all told to get this post written! I now need to go to the bed and make good my promise to have a busier shag week month so sorry for those I haven?t name-checked yet!

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GinSoaked · 26/02/2012 23:13

Hi ladies. Hope you all had lovely weekends! Lots to catch up on, so sorry to those I miss...

nelly I'm soooo jealous of your holiday! Sounds ace. Good luck with the shagging Wink I too thought 6 times a month sounded like pretty good going!

pout and mrsd hope you are now both feeling a bit better. I totally get what you said about ttc running through everything. I find frequently when I get upset now, I start off being upset about one thing and then end up crying about ttc! Guess it is a huge life-changing thing. Mrsd, so pleased to hear your furry baby turned up safe and sound. stasi I was horrified to read about what yours has been through. Poor little cat.

Talking of furry, loving the manchester description wine! Made me snigger a lot. Did the nurse ever get back to you?! These processes are all so frustrating.

ladyg that's such fantastic news about the embie. Hope you are taking it easy and the little embie is settling in nicely. Are you off work?

joy grrrr at the badges. I don't like the baby on board ones, but can see why they might be necessary but ffs why have such idiotic ones as the ones you've seen! I want a 'I'm having a big pad period, give me your seat' badge...

euro When do you start with ivf? Will you be on the long protocol?

Hello to everyone else.

We've provisionally booked a first appointment at Create, the ivf clinic. Think I'm most scared about the dildo camming involved in it. I am a wuss. DH and I told our parents, who were very good and matter of fact about it and have offered to lend us money. DH has given up drinking to give his 2 swimmers the best chance and he told all the boys in the pub at the weekend why he's not drinking. I'm pleased he's finally told people but wish he'd been a bit more selective/asked them not to tell others. Their girlfriends are all v nice and my friends too but not people I would choose to tell. I REALLY don't want to have to discuss it with them and have been v careful about telling only those I know will be supportive.

ERTD is due this week, boo. If boob pain and pre AF pains are anything to go by, it's going to be a special one. Bring on the neurofen plus!

Hope you are all ok and waves to everyone.

whereismywine · 27/02/2012 10:11

Last night I dreamt I was pregnant with a big tummy only my mum pressed on it and it started to deflate through my belly button Sad I woke up crying! I haven't had a pregnant dream for so long.

nelly welcome back from your lovely break and what admirable name catching up! I am expecting 2nd preggers announcements this year. And yes, it will be worse and really feel like having my face rubbed in it.

gin having that first appointment booked must feel all sorts of things. I was looking at centres online this weekend. I have deduced that we had better get saving and that it would be better if I was 10 years younger. Maybe that is why I had the deflating belly dream.

pout oh boo to ERTD. It doesn't get much better I don't think. I hope the gynae appointment starts to make you feel there is a plan ahead.

I had a cry this weekend brought on by my Dad talking about my dh and I thinking about adopting. He meant well, he's so lovely and I guess this is very frustrating to my mum and dad who just want me to be happy and moving forwards I think. But inside, it felt like he may be thought that I wouldn't ever get pregnant. Cue the wailing when I got home. And maybe he's right. I do appear to have a significantly huge hurdle to overcome. I can phone the nurse tomorrow to see if I can get an appointment with the consultant. Again. I suspect there will be no sign of a fibroid on the MRI scan either and I will be left with an odd bulging womb and partially blocked cervix that is impenetrable for catheters. I did see something called adenomyosis that can mimic fibroids but there isn't really a cure and that only added to my weeping, much to the sad annoyance of dh, that I am fuelling my own worries through self diagnosis. Unfortunately, all of my forecasts that there are problems have been right, so it hard to take comfort from him.

ladygee hows you? Hope the days aren't going too slowly.

reenypip please tell us more! So glad you got there in the end.

Big wave to you all. I'm working on the most boring project today, I can't bear it. So I will be back.

lovesLemonDrizzleCake · 27/02/2012 10:41

Morning lovelies!

Just popping by to say I am keeping up to date; handing out Biscuit and tea to everyone having slow Monday mornings; keeping the otherwise useless fingers of the right hand firmly crossed for the IVF-ers!

Here the pain is much less :) en I have survived the one handed ERTD. Less than 4 weeks to IUI... Which means the dildo-camming will be with my arm in a sling, but I cannot wait.

Big waves, welcome to the newbies and hurrah for positive stories! Boo to second pg announcements Angry

freedom2011 · 27/02/2012 10:45

GinSoaked I am so sorry you have been feeling down. I also have bad dreams sometimes, mostly where my baby falls out and gets washed away by accident. I don't have any advice other than to hope that crying makes you feel better and that'll you'll feel more upbeat soon.

joycep · 27/02/2012 12:01

Oh wine I am sorry you had such a crappy day. I never want false hope but I also hate it when someone says to me, ?if you have children?. I get very prickly at this even though I always say ?if? myself but there is something a bit more emphatic when someone else says it. It?s as if they don?t think it?s possible and it can make you feel like shit. So if they don?t see the fibroid on the mri will they not operate to remove it?

gin - i am pleased your parent have agreed to lend you money. Are you in London by any chance? Are you going down the natural IVF route?

nelly - welcome back and lovely to have you back. Glad you had a fab time skiing. Sorry about the 2nd baby announcement. It?s unbelievable that people are on to their second even though they started the process after you. I heard about one of these last week ? luckily not a close friend but it still brings it home. I am going to have a string of baby announcements this year, i am expecting one this week or next by a friend who wasn?t drinking when i last saw her 6 wks ago. It will floor me even though i am expecting it.

euro - thanks for clearing up the ivf info. I must say i thought they cut open the stomach/womb area to collect the eggs and cut it open again to transfer them back in. Shows how little i know. Sticking my head in the sand about really finding out about it all.

I spent yesterday crying on and off all day. AF arrived 4 days early and I just felt utterly hopeless and creeping panic and despair just totally consumed me. I have such a short cycle these days there is no way i can ever get pregnant. I don?t think i even have a 10 day luteal phase anymore. No one has managed to explain to me why my cycle has shortened in the last few years, i fear it is menopause looming. Luckily dh wasn?t around so i just spontaneously sobbed round the house, watched a film and then would sob whilst making a tea. I had spent time with my goddaughter on Saturday and she is so perfect. I love hanging out with her. I don?t feel jealous, just unbelievably sad. I don?t think my body has the capacity to every produce such a beautiful thing.
Found out my blood type is AB negative and my husband?s is O+. Well we couldn?t be more different and I seem to have a blood type in less than 1% of the population. Cue me frantically googling whether this has something to do with lack of baby ? up until 1am reading. I am now going to post a question on the pregnancy forum because I have been reading about people who are negative and have had miscarriages get some kind of injection.
So with my weird blood and estrogen dominance, hypoglycaemia, short luteal phase, low progesterone and my self-diagnosed high NK cells ? I fear I am battling an unwinnable war.

Stasi · 27/02/2012 12:10

Morning everyone. I'm going to have to keep this quite short, as the pain in my hand is coming back after only a couple of hours in work - and that spent trying not to type!
Sorry to the people feeling down, and the bad dreams. I usually end up dreaming i do have a baby, then wake up and realise it's not true. Less traumatic that way I think, but still upsetting.
wine I hope you get that appointment, and some answers, soon. It's so hard when well-meaning people make you feel worse. Sending hugs your way.
lemon I've been thinking about IUI recently, and talking to DH about it. I explained it as only getting the swimmers to run a half-marathon instead of the full one, and I think he now likes the idea. However, I was wondering, do they check your ovulation? Would they be able to see I had an egg on the blocked tube side and wait for the next cycle? or are you booked in to do it all as one thing?
Got to go, too much pain :( will try and catch up in batches.

eurochick · 27/02/2012 12:31

Grrr. Just typed a long reply and then lost it!

stasi I'm no expert but I think most IUI cycles are medicated and monitored so if that all worked well, you would probably ovulate from both sides. But I guess there are different ways of doing IUI. But with your tubal issue, it would be silly to go ahead if you are ovulating from the blocked side, even if there is a chance that the other tube might pick up the egg.

Nelly I am pleased to hear that you had a great time skiing. We have booked a holiday for next month and can't wait!

Gin we will be on long protocol. We were supposed to be starting on day 21 of the next cycle but both Mr euro and I are thinking we might want to hold off for one more cycle. Mostly so we don't have to abstain or take precautions on our holiday and can just sh@g with gay abandon (and give it one last natural go). But sometimes I do just feel that I want to get on with it asap.

wine I am sorry things are so confusing. Hopefully the MRI will thow up some answers.

whereismywine · 27/02/2012 13:52

Hugs joycep I hope you don't mind me sending you soothing thoughts that you did conceive once and I truly believe you will again. Sort cycles must be a worry but did the progesterone help that when you had the IUI? Try not think about the menopause or your blood. I'd be excited to have ab neg. I dont think it means anything bad at all with regards to fertility and I have read loads on blood group as o neg is not ace in the fertility world as we have more antibodies or something which fingers crossed means less cancer but more allergies and rejection of embryos. But the blood bank probably really needs you! I find it easy to objectively consider everyone on this thread and see that you will find a way to overcome the barriers and get there in the end. Why is it so hard to to that for ourselves? And remember the period hormones make you cry. God damn them, they could at least belt out endorphins.

izzybizzybuzzybees · 27/02/2012 16:45

wine that was a lovely post. I am sure the MRI will show the firbroid clearly, its the gold standard in soft tissue imaging (remember im a radiographer), its just a pity i cant organise my own! My work are being awkward with me being off (they are short staffed) and so i feel i need to go back even tho i have no change in symptoms or pain.

ladygee · 27/02/2012 17:25

pout ? so sorry about the arrival of AF. Though it sounds like you have a plan for the gynae clinic. Am liking the sound of your DIY and homemaking plans. I keep wanting to spruce things up a bit here but really we?d both like to move so it?s a constant battle between making this place homely and saving for our next house ?though this will take many years-

mini ? Hope AF has stayed away for you. I have a blood test next Tuesday to check the results ? though if AF hasn?t arrived by then I?ll be pretty hopeful! The advice is not to POAS because of all the hormones they?ve pumped you with over the past few weeks, don?t think there are many ladies that stick to that though!

izzy ? your birthday treat sounds lovely. Hope the test results come back ok

nelly! Welcome back ? glad you had a wonderful time, sounds like the perfect ski trip. Sorry about the 2nd pregnancy announcement though. Good luck with keeping up the swi.

gin ? How do you feel now you?ve booked a first appt with Create? Is that for mild IVF? Don?t worry about the dildocamming. Apart from the lack of dignity, it?s fine. Great news that your parents have been good with and that your DH is being supportive. I hope you don?t have too many awkward conversations now that your DH?s friends know.

I am taking it easy and DH is being rather protective, which is a side I?d never seen before. I am technically off work this week as far as clients are concerned but I?m doing some paperwork just to keep my mind occupied. Next week, when we find out how it?s gone, we?ve both booked annual leave so we?ll find out and then go away to either celebrate or commiserate.

lemons ? hooray for the pain subsiding and great news about IUI being so close.

joycep ? sorry about the utterly crap early arrival of AF and that you?re feeling down. You will get there.

wine ? so sorry about your dream and getting upset. It sounds like your Dad was well-meaning but it?s so hard when other people plant seeds of doubt when we have enough of our own. Hope you manage to get an appointment sorted and get some answers from the MRI.

I?m managing to fill the days with work, housework and helping my sister get ready for her baby?s impending arrival. Bizarrely, I feel like I?m in no rush to find out whether it has/hasn?t worked as I?m quite enjoying being hopeful. We found out yesterday that we didn?t manage to get any embryos to freeze, which was gutting - and it leaves me with lots of unanswered questions to ask of the clinic - but for now I can focus my energy on the little one that is back with me.

Waves to everyone else

lovesLemonDrizzleCake · 28/02/2012 07:58

Hi all!

Wow lady you sound very calm and collected! Well done, hope the good vibes encourage the embie to bed down nicely!!

With respect to IUI, stasi I don't think it would be offered after tubal problems, and I certainly would not part w hard-earned cash for it in your case. Yes, they do monitor the number and thus the location of the eggs, but the idea is to improve the chance by upping the number of eggs and limiting the swimming marathon. The thing is that by the time you see where the egg is coming from you've had plenty of dildo-camming and poss hormones injected, so the actual treatment and injection of his side is relatively minor... So canceling at that stage would not make it much cheaper. Where we are it is offered on a trial basis (I believe, will read the paperwork, honest) for mild male factor and unexplained...

Hugs and cake to wine for dreams and being so lovely and encouraging to us all. Listen to izzy re: mri and fibroid! And sorr about AF pout and joycep, don't say short cycles have anything to do w the M-word, pls!!

Right, typing is so slow, that the rest of you have to make do with a general wave but know I am thinking of you all!!!

lovesLemonDrizzleCake · 28/02/2012 08:01

As the cheery thought of the day, I just realised it is 20mnths of TTC in the lemon household now...

mrsden · 28/02/2012 09:25

I'm on 20 months too lemons, at least I think I am. We started at the beginning of July 2010. My brain is too frazzled to work out if that is right.

I'm so excited for you ladygee, you sound so calm. I really hope that little one is making a nice cosy home for itself. Are you on any medication now or is that side of things over?

stasi I don't think they normally do IUI for tube problems. I think it's for unexplained and mild male factor. We were offered it for severe male factor but were told the chances of it working were very slim, so we decided against.

joycep you miscarried before 12 weeks didn't you? I think the blood type is only an issue if your blood mixes with the baby which wouldn't happen before 12 weeks as far as I understand. Although, having said that I have a friend who miscarried at 10 weeks and she had to have her blood type tested and they would have given her something if she'd been negative. But over here they tend to go over the top with everything because they can charge for it so I expect it isn't necessary. Can you chat to a Dr about it? I think it's quite cool to have a rare type. Have you ever given blood? I imagine the blood bank would bite your arm off for a donation if it is rare.

I have to go to a long and boring meeting now, so I'll just wave to everyone else and try and catch up later.

FatimaLovesBread · 28/02/2012 10:02

Morning all!

I had a scan yesterday, ovaries are big and there are plenty of follicles growing. There were three big ones and they like a minimum of three at 17mm to go for collection so we were contemplating EC tomorrow. Theyve decided they're going to let all the ones that are not quite there catch up.
So had a lower dose stim yesterday and tonight and then another scan tomorrow morning and should be having EC on Friday!

Can't wait, I'm feeling very uncomfortable, like I've two tennis balls in my abdomen. Feeling bloated and tummy aches an absolutely shattered.

Will catch up on everyone else.

ladygee when do you get to test?

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