TTC for 10+ months, part 5

[MuddyWellyNelly]

Filled up our old one, I'll put our updated list on a separate post so that it's not a huge chunk of text at the top of every page.

Old thread here. Newbies always welcome, much as we'd like to hope nobody ever gets to this stage of TTC!

stasi your poor kitty. How could people be so cruel? Did they ever find the culprits? So pleased he's survived and home with you. I wish I could put a little camera on my cats head to see where she goes. I've tried coaxing her into telling us where she was but it's all too traumatic for her to speak about! I think she must have been locked in somewhere because other than being hungry and very grateful to be home she is fine.

at slipping on sperm and getting pg. At least we can laugh about it.

tiago sorry I don't think I said hello to you. I would go and badger the GP again, they really should order tests.

pout - i am worried about you.. Is it cyclical related or are you in the doldrums generally? I am trying to think what you can do to give yourself a lift. It?s very hard to control all the negative emotions that come with ttc, one never knows how one is going to feel from one hour to the next. Anyway some random thoughts here but I didn?t realise that too much sugar and flour in foods can cause depression in some people. I think it?s the constant highs and lows. I don?t know whether eliminating these from my diet is why i generally feel much better and more positive in the last 6 weeks. Sorry if it?s all a bit hippyish (which I?m not at all!) but just wondering whether there are natural things like nutrition and exercise that you can do to improve your how you feel. I know it doesn?t help when you are fighting an endless battle with the nhs just to get investigated for endo ? it?s all so debilitating and tiring and it?s difficult to see an end to it all. My chip on my shoulder is very visible , i?m sure amazing pregnant lady with badge on this morning saw my scowl as I walked past her.
Oh too late with the bursting of the boil. It was like a huge growth of red jelly, yuk sorry! Anyway i think it made it worse but i?m putting savlon on it now so i hope it will dissipate.

mrsd - i ?m not entirely sure about this blood type thing. I have a feeling it is the O group but then i think that is the largest group so that doesn?t make sense. I was digging around my mother?s drawers at the weekend and I found that both my parents are AB so there is high chance that is what i am. If I am O then I presume my mother was a naughty woman or I was swapped at birth. They don?t tell you your blood type here now because it?s something lik 15% of the population have a parent that?s not biologically theirs. But i wonder whether there can be incompatibilities with blood groups when it comes to conceive. Sorry that you are missing out on hand me downs MrsD. It?s annoying the ones with the kids get favoured and would make me see red. I?m the only girl and as my brothers won?t have kids ? one married a much older woman ? so the jewellery comes my way. To be honest i don?t care about the stuff as i haven?t got a legacy to leave anything to, no nephews or nieces and the children of my BiL are pretty spoilt and i don?t have a close relationship.
I know it?s very negative but I don?t think DH and I will grow old - The men in DH?s family fair very badly indeed , his dad died at 40 and his grandfathers all died young so I worry i will be a bitter old childless hag in my 40s...a bit like my MiL except she wasn?t childless !

euro - how hard won was this new pregnancy announcement ? ivf? 5 years trying? I like to hear a hopeful story....

Bloody hell Joyce, 15%, that is crazily high. I didn't realise they'd stopped telling people.

Glad you sorted the boil out, hope it was satisfying

Takes me so long to write these posts that I missed a few in between.
Unbelievable about your kitty Stasi! People can be so disgusting. Glad you got her back.
kitty - I am doing something very similar , only organic meat and nothing refined. Full fat everything. I am trying to get into shape for ivf.
mrsd - forgot to say that DH doesn't want me to do ivf over the summer. He wants me to do it at the end of the year now. I think I will get tested for immune problems around June time though as depending on those results I may push for ivf before Xmas.

at you digging around in your mother's drawers joycep. I'd heard that about a significant proportion of kids not being the biological child of the person the mother says is dad. It's why they give rhesus neg mothers the injection anyway even if she says the dad is rhesus neg too.

pout I think it's normal to feel down at points. I know I've been there so many times over the last year or so. I do manage to drag myself out of it though but I know what you mean about it always being there. It's like an undercurrent to everything so even when I feel upset about something else I end up thinking about ttc and that upsets me more. I find a brisk walk really helps to clear my head. And also reminding myself that we'll get there in the end and that once we do these times will be a faint memory. I really hope you are ok.

stasi your poor cat!

kitty a word of warning, check the Q10 doesn't have evening primrose in it. The tablets do. Apparently, you are not supposed to take evening primrose after ovulation.

joycep I don't know the details as I'm friends with the husband and don't really know the wife (and it tends to be the women that talk about these things in my experience). But apparently they tried for ages and ages, gave up trying and then got a surprise pregnancy.

I'd heard a figure of 10% before. It's incredible when you think about it. And it's why newborns most often look like their dad - it's nature's way of making sure the dad looks after them (or so the theory goes).

pout I find my moods ebb and wane with my hormones quite closely. I am around ov now, between drugs and not having a hormone dip so I feel pretty good (the sunshine today helps too). But when AF arrives, my mood will tumble.

Oo I am typing on my office computer, that is a first. I feel paranoid that somewhere someone can tell. The thread is nice and lively today which feels nice. I am fed up of typing messages on my phone, this feels quite luxurious and much quicker.

Well bums about another pregnancy announcement euro but it is a bit easier if it wasn't a slippage (that made me smile). I haven't had one for a few weeks but a lot of my students get pregnant so it does surround me a lot of the time. They are always accidents.

joycep it is O blood. I have done extensive research on this because I am O negative. But then, so is my mum! I think she did have to have an injection or something after she had me or my brother or something like that. My grandma was too. AB is rare and I think recessive so you would be AB if your parents are and a bit special too . It boggles my brain some days at just how much potential there is for things to go wrong on the route to conception. It amazes me that anyone ever manages it and I will be forever in awe at just what a miraculous feat it is.

mrsden phew for the safe return of your cat. The good thing about my rabbit is that he lives in the house and cant wander off because he would get eaten within about five minutes. Except for the summer when we let him in our chicken wired garden under supervision. He has no concept of danger whatsoever. But he is scared of planes.

pout ttc does run through everything. I think about it all the time as it colours what I'm eating and drinking, my short term and long term plans and how I receive any news or mention of babies and pregnancy in the real world, on the telly and in fiction. It carves my route through the supermarket to avoid THAT section and who I choose to interact with. It leads me to berate myself for not: eating that/doing that exercise/shagging on that day/staying super healthy/using that stupid lube/scoffing that supplement. It is Officially Shit. The comfort I take lately is that I'm not the only one and that making babies is actually quite hard for a lot of people - its just that no one ever told me! And, I love my Mr Wine, my broody single friends have a bit of a bigger obstacle (I think?). But it is tough and I want to give you, and everyone that is going through the same, a big old hug. Finding the woo can be helpful if you can get in the mood. I'm going to yoga tonight even though I don't remotely feel like it. We will get there by hook or by crook. But doenst it take ages!?

kitty your youthful radience has made me want to reinvigorate my efforts to be Mrs Holland and Barratt!! Sod the healthy womble, give me glowing young skin . The other day someone told me I looked pale and terribly ill. I thought I'd looked alright that day! Thanks! I am always so pale as to raise questions of ghoulish anemia. And maybe scurvy . Fake tan brings me up to most people's base winter shade. I do currently have a very doughy tummy though. The lap has bought on a new wave of squishy tummy. Or maybe it is because I'm not running/bikramming at the moment. So I am inspired. And as for throwing wine away - amazing!

stasi I hope your other tube grabs it. I wonder if our pains are reliable? I find it amazing that something so tiny can even cause pain. My ovaries are so so teeny. I thought they would be like a big fat plum, not the size of a 5p!

Well my fertility nurse rang to arrange my appointment at ten to 7 this morning when I was in the shower! And now she is bloody on leave!!! It is like being in a bad dream and not being able to wake up right now. Thanks for all the love. I am OK, just so fucking bored of this. But I guess we always manage to muster up the energy to keep plodding on.

joycep we will be going for IVF at the end of the year if all else fails. well, most likely January 2013. We are going to try IUI hopefully if they can fix me, just because I'd like to give it a shot before bringing in the big guns.

Hello lovely ladies!

Just a quick post from my phone as I'm installed on the sofa after ET this morning.

It all went really well and we've had one beautiful little embryo transferred back as it was miles ahead of the others. We're keeping the other 3 in the lab to see if they're good enough to freeze by day 6.

Will catch up properly tomorrow so for now big waves to everyone

Quick post to say - Wow lady massive grats and soo much hope being sent your way. A nice healthy embryo out-performing it's peers sounds like a really positive thing. Proves it's a good one methinks. Keeping everything crossed for you, apart from my legs, which will be crossing for you later in the week after SWI!

Hard won pregnancy announcements are okay and just get waived through in this house too. Anything else, especially quick second pregnancies achieved in the time it has taken me to achieve no baby, requires weeks of intermittent wailing.

Tiago I would suggest trying to change your GP. I didn't have a good experience with one so asked to see another at the same practice who got things moving for me. Maybe you could ask the receptionist if any have an interest in gynae/fertility issues.

stasi I'm sending words of encouragement to your left ovary.
My God at your cat. Some people are utterly & scarily unbelievable.

kitty Am laughing at your glow in the dark description. My wedding photos are hilarious and I got a shock at how pale my skin is. When I changed some to sepia I literally looked like Casper the friendly Ghost. Still, better than Casper the big fat Corpse which is what they look like in colour

joycep Think I am just feeling at a bit of a crossroads. 26 cycles and the prospect of an apppointment with the gynae that based on my last referral may not go well is making me feel a bit crappy as is the realisation that this referral is probably the last chance saloon to get any answers. I agree that tweeking my diet would probably help chemically lift my mood but TBH I can't be arsed to give up the things I love like cake

I can't believe that you were brave enough to pop your boil. Definitely slaver it with Savlon.

BTW Please step away from your mother's drawers. That kind of business is only one step away from being a guest on the Jeremy Vile show. And I'll know that it's you Joyce because your badge will give it away

mrsd I feel bad whinging because we are all in the same boat. Probably PMT...drats!

wine I'm sorry that you are going through a tough time...far worse than me so sending you hugs back your way!
I can't believe that you were called at stupid o'clock. What is wrong with a letter? Maybe I am old fashioned.

Euro slipping on sperm, if only it were that simple!

x-post ladygee

Wonderful news. Everything crossed for you and big hugs.

great news lady, I hope that little embryo is making itself nice and at home right now. Was the procedure ok?

pout don't feel bad about whinging, goodness knows I do enough of it on here. We're going through a crappy time and this is the only place to really vent. I agree that giving up cake is not a good idea.

wine 7am phonecall? What sort of time is that? When will she be back?

hey Ladies just a quick post to you all, sorry to hear about peoples cats, glad they are ok now. Sorry some of you are feeling low, super big hugs to you x
Love the badges to go with the pee stick in the pockets :)

mrsden she is back on the 28th which I have had a big moody strop about only to realise it is only next Tuesday. Where is the year going to?!

Ladygee so lovely. Nestle in little embryo. I hope you are being spoilt rotten.

pout don't give up cake. My acu says that it's all about balance and if you deprive yourself too much then it stops you having the good chi. I made that bit about chi up, but it was something like that! My healthy puritan approach has been somewhat halted by that conversation but I feel good for it actually.

joycep ahem I had a similar problem once when I was travellng and had no one to look at it and shared dorms made my own investigations rather tricky! But it was actually an ingrown hair from waxing. But that was in my Hollywood days. Nowadays I have a 'Manchester' which is considerably more hairy.

Hey girls thanks for such a warm welcome, my close family know we are going thru all this but apart from my SIL they just don't realise the strain it has on me after all this time! Its so strange reading thru all the posts thinking jeez that's exactly how I feel, wish I had found this site sooner!!

Ladygee So exciting! I am sending positive vibes your way. BTW I really like your name - I always read it Laydee G as in, G for Gansta. So in my head you are a hottie gansta moll and your embryo is shouting, come get me, you mother.

stasi Just seen what happened to your cat - what is wrong with people. So sorry that happened.

mrs den even I manage to have kids I am sure they won't look after me in my old age. I don't want my children looking after me and giving me bed baths anyway - I want a hunky male nurse.

OMG , I passed lady with badge on again this morning and they obviously come in different shades of stupidity because she was wearing a different one. Not kidding but it said, ?I?m Pregnant ? What?s your excuse??. WTF?? My excuse is that I?m not pregnant. Gee whiskers ? in your face or what, thank god i don?t know her socially!! I expect she?ll have it stamped to her forehead tomorrow.

lady - that?s fantastic news. Sending lots of positive thoughts that the little one is embedding right now. So did you have to be sedated for ET?

euro - it?s interesting how many times i hear people say they gave up trying and it happened. I actually think if I got pregnant now I would say i had basically given up trying although technically we haven?t all. I have got to a point where I don?t really believe it will happen and really don?t put much effort in to swi. I am quite happy to give the odd day a miss over fertile period so i guess this is what people mean when people say they have given up trying.

wine - are AB blood types freaks ? I wonder why?? I hope they don?t have to mix with other AB types to procreate! What does O negative mean? Oh and i think the boil issue is down to an ingrown hair as well. Panic over if that?s all what it is. Can?t believe a little hair can cause such an eyesore.

Pout - at me ending up on the Jeremy Vile show! When that happens I know my life will seriously have come to a sticky end. In the meantime, my badges are in production.

I want one of your badges joycep I can't believe people would wear something like that, what's the point?

I agree with what you said about given up trying. I also think that people mean they are just resigned to the fact it won't happen and aren't counting the days anymore. But I don't think if you're not using contraception that you can not be trying.

wine what is a manchester??

mrshiggins that's good that your SIL understands. Has she had trouble ttc?

I have no idea what cycle day I'm on or if I'm pre or post ovulation. This is a first for me. No temping and no day counting. It's not making me feel any more relaxed though.

Hee hee mrsden a Manchester is my very own untamed mane

joycep grr at the badges! I'd not worry about the blood groups, the way I see it, if there was a real problem they'd have found out by now or one of the blood groups would die out? And hairs can do bad things! My friend had to get the gp to sort one out!

Haha at the untamed mane!! I go native too- let my standards drop since getting married!

Started questioning what I saw this morning but you can buy them online. Seen red after reading the text next to the picture!
www.babyonboardbadge.co.uk/baby-on-board-badges/blue-badges/im-pregnant-whats-your-excuse-badge-blue/

Wow, you ladies have been on fire this week. I've missed so much so have to go back a few days to catch up...

pout ? deep pink/orange/red are all supposed to be good for fertility. at the return of boobs in the freezer. I?m so sorry that you are low at the moment, I'd echo mrsd's thoughts on keeping cake and anything else you enjoy - a little bit of what you fancy does you good!

Karbea ? how?s the downregging going?

Nelly ? Sorry to hear about ERTD but glad to hear you?re making the most of your holiday!

Whatmess ? sorry you?ve had various lurgies in your house. Hope things are getting back to normal for you, these things always happen at the most rubbish time, don?t they?

Minipie ? apparently, yes, weight lifting or other heavy exercise can affect sperm levels ? I can?t remember exactly what the science was, something to do with oxygen in the blood and hormone levels. Basically maintenance and low level weights are good and anything more than that can have a bad effect. Add this to the list of things I thought I?d never need to know!!

Great result on the progesterone levels.

Very jealous of your Maldivian trip! When do you go?

Euro ? Sorry about the pregnancy announcement, though slightly better if it was a hard won win. Has your little follicle popped yet?!?

Fatima ? sorry you had a bad reaction to the injections, I hope that has eased a bit. How did the blood test go today? Have you been scanned yet? Hope it's all going well

I was stupidly nervous about EC as I?ve never been in hospital before either but the sedation was amazing ? I wasn?t aware of a thing. I was a bit uncomfortable earlier this week but all back to normal now, apart from the progesterone kicking in and making me incredibly bloated!

Mrshiggins ? hello and welcome, you have indeed found a lovely supportive place here.

Wine ? sorry you?ve been feeling down, I really hope things start to move forward for you soon. at nurses ringing before 7am!

Mrsden ? I?m sorry that you?ve been feeling down about things too, I know that feeling of everyone being so bloody fertile and it?s hard to get that out of your head. Sorry about your little cat too ? I?m glad she?s home and ok.

Freedom ? at being a hottie gangsta moll! I don?t want to shatter the illusion but in reality I?m a plain old Yorkshire girl

Stasi ? I?m sure that clever left tube will have picked up your egg no problem! Hope shagweek is going well.

joycep - really, people actually buy and wear those things?!? Gah.

Thanks for all the good wishes and positive thoughts! The embryo transfer was fine ? no sedation or pain relief. It was very similar to a smear test but with my husband, two nurses, a consultant and embryologist all looking on! Zero dignity! But seriously, the consultant did a better job than any nurse who has done my smear tests in the past, I didn?t feel any pain and it was all over in about 10 mins.

The hardest thing was deciding how many embryos to transfer back, after reading other threads and forums I thought it would be very dictatorial but it was our choice. Obviously, they advised us what was best for someone my age etc but, after saying we've definitely want to transfer two, it just didn't feel like the right thing to do for us. Our one little embryo stuck it's head above the parapet and was growing much faster and was a better quality than the others, so it was an easy decision in the end. Looks like we might get one little embryo to freeze too as one of the three still in the lab is progressing really well.

Just got to stay sane over the next two weeks now!!

Hope everyone has lovely plans for the weekend and waves to everyone I've missed

joycep you know I was reading through the badges and thinking, oh, maybe these aren't so bad, they are pregnant, I guess this is their way of enjoying it. UNTIL I got to - I GROW PEOPLE What's Your Superpower?

I think if faced with that I would think OH Please.EFF.OFF so loud it might accidently -be shouted- slip out my mouth

So, yes, now understand your irritation on that one. We've managed twice in shag week so I am waiting now. Have a nice weekend everyone.

I GROW PEOPLE What's Your Superpower? I think if you have to advertise the obvious ie you're pregnant you must be in serious need of attention and that is sad.

free it only takes once at the right time
lady I hope after everything you've been through that its a sticky bean
wine and mrsd I hope you are both feeling better
carebear1 loving the CD you sent me, I listen to it during acu

I've barely had AF this week??? Thinking/hoping its down to acupuncture/herbs and flu, who knows we'll just have to see what happens this month.

big waves to everyone else, hope you all have a lovely weekend