TTC for 10+ months, part 5

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Filled up our old one, I'll put our updated list on a separate post so that it's not a huge chunk of text at the top of every page.

Old thread here. Newbies always welcome, much as we'd like to hope nobody ever gets to this stage of TTC!

That chart is pretty clear, isn't it?

My charts are always very easy to read, which is why I think this is an AF, albeit a strange one. I don't like the idea of the vitamins messing with something which has been so constant though, or the possibility of being pg for the HSG.

I'll see if I can ask the person doing the scan to look for the lining thickness while she's there, and discuss it with my consultant when I get the appointment through. I'm just not sure if I should stop the B complex in the mean time. Might be better scientifically to keep taking it till next AF, and if that one's normal, then this is just a WTF cycle, and probably would have been either way.

I'm taking high doee B6 along with a bunch of other stuff and they don't seem to have had any detrimental effect on my cycles.

Definitely mention the weird period when you have your scan. Maybe they will do a blood test to confirm?

Lady - am so excited for you everything seems to be moving so quickly. Can't believe you're nearing EC already.

Stasi - what a strange thing. Vit B complex shouldnt mess with your cycle like that. I thought it was fairly harmless stuff unless you were taking far too much of it. Its not like Agnus Cactus that can mess around. I would test again just to make sure. Also I think the odd cycle can be very odd. I had as 2 day sort of period last year and it totally baffled
Me. It's very unsettling when something changes so if you aren't PG then I expect it is a freaky one.

Evening all. So sorry euro that this wasn't the cycle. I hope you're ok. If I had one wish it would be that we have all just had our last period for at least nine months and we can wander over to the pregnancy forum together and be down with all of this. Maybe not yet but hopefully soon. I'm glad for your friend, I'm glad for all ttcers that fight the good fight and win. But I imagine it feels strange too. But you aren't alone - we will keep you company!

And stasi how annoying for you. I hope it isn't messing with your head too much. I sometimes get v short periods but scans always show there is a good thickness. They are often short when I've had loads of spotting before, which I guess makes sense. B vits made me spot the whole cycle on and off so I think they are quite potent. But that month could have been caused by anything, I just blamed that. The hospital made me do a test the morning of the hsg.

gin I would love to quiz your friend!

Great to hear your updates Ladygee I'm glad you get to rest up soon. Keep us posted every step of the way. Also, I can't believe how many of us are games widows!! I thought mr wine was on his own there.

mrsden I know what you mean about the confidence thing. I think I will always feel a bit down on myself that I'm not a super fertile?

Nice to see you citysnow all the best with the scan. Hopefully it will put your mind at rest. Keep popping in to say hello, it's nice to get updates.

I have been rewarded for my trip to the gym and run with a stinker of a cold. I HATE colds! And it's made my temps go up too as I've been all temperaturery. Last time that happened I ovd really late and had a six week cycle. Ballbags!! I found it really hard to concentrate at work and feel decidedly unsexy. Big wave to everyone else x

Was catching up and hopeful for you stasi that you had the fabled implantation bleeding but sorry to see BFP and chart pointing towards it not being that. Since ttc, I've had the odd short, freaky ertd. I think if I wasn't ttc, I wouldn't really notice 'em. I'm sure there's nothing wrong and something most people get once in a while. Hope you are ok.

euro sorry about af and also sorry some of us (mrsd etc) are feeling a bit despondent. As joy said, if a bloody men can get pregnant so can we! However I do get that feeling about being the last childless person in the WORLD! Spotted another obviously pregnant lady at work. And she's only been married about a year.

lis pleased to hear st helliers isn't all bad! V comforting. But so sorry to hear of your mcs.

FFS, someone's got a thread about trying for a particular sex baby. Can't bear to read it - any baby would do me!

Am in shag week, so fairly positive about it all at the mo (despite above rant re thread!). We have urologists again next week, which I'm sure will end the positivity

Evening everyone

I broke my laptop so I have to post on my phone, a bit harder to keep track an reply to everyone but I'll try.

We're waiting for AF currently on CD25. DH and I did a tally from my iperiod app and from the last 21 cycles I've had 1 26day, 6 27 day, 6 28, 4 29, 1 31 and 3 32 day cycles. What do you think I should place my bets on this month? Really want it to be a 27 so I can get injecting

Going to read up on everyone's posts from the weekend

gin I had a terrible meeting with the recurrent miscarriage specialist today at St Helier she was so rude I left in tears, the midwife who was also present came after me to make sure I was ok and said to call her if I needed to chat, I feel happier about having a baby there if they are half as nice as her

A very quick wave and temporary good bye from me. Over the weekend, I fell off my bike (should have known better, it was still v slippery) and broke my right collar bone :(

So am typing w left -read too slow to keep up - on the wagon (as I am overburdening the liver w painkillers), no gymming and lots of comfort food eating... I am keeping up reading, but won't be posting for a while. So in the meantime goog luck for lady, fatima, and karbea w IVF! And thinking of all you lovely ladies!!!

Oh lemon, you poor thing! Hope you make a swift recovery. Make the most of day time tv and hope it's not too painful. Big hugs!

Oh lemons, I'm sorry to hear that. It sounds incredibly painful, I hope you are dosed up with painkillers and taking things easy. Hope you get better soon.

fatima here's hoping for a nice short cycle so you can get started soon

lisa sorry to hear about your meeting with the rude specialist. I often wonder how people can be in professions like that and be so horrible? I'm glad the midwife kind of made up for it and was more reassuring.

wine poor you, that's not a good way to be rewarded for gym-going at all. Hope you feel better soon

gin I've seen the title of that thread and for my own sanity have not clicked on it. I fear with all the hormones rushing round my system I might not be very restrained!! Good luck for shag week - nice timing for Valentine's Day too

Hello ladies, on phone so just popping in to say hi and give lemons a sympathy (gentle) hug, so sorry you have hurt yourself. All the best for a speedy recovery.

I have just stuck my oar in on that thread, couldn't resist-it's turned into a bit of a bunfight.

AF is here, so I've hit the 18th month mark, sigh. Hospital tomorrow for day 2 tests.

Will catch up properly later

lisa sorry about your rubbish appointment. My friend had an appointment for recurrent miscarriage and hers ended the same with her upset and getting her appointment. She had her second one last week and that was a bit better but not much, she ended up knowing more about recurrent miscarriage than the doctor did. Hope you're feeling better today

lemon sorry about your collarbone! Have a gentle hug from me. Thanks for the good luck

Well I'm tempting fate hoping for a short cycle, I'm wearing white knickers and haven't brought any tampax to work with me

lemon that sounds awful. I hope you are on the mend very soon!

lisa I am sorry to hear about your awful appointment. I really don't know why people that unsympathetic don't become podiatrists or something where they will never have to deal with an emotive subject like conception!

Hello ladies. I've missed loads and most importantly missed cakes BFP! She probably isn't around these barren parts anymore but big congratulations to her anyway

I have read through the posts I have missed but won't remember everything so sorry!!. lemons how are you feeling, so sorry to hear about your accident, that's awful. Sending you hugs. Also just wanted to say that I got quizzed by the crap GP about whether I was "in a secure relationship" and wanted to thump her tell her that I was doing a different man every night. Why is it that normal & fertile women can get upduffed and not have to answer such insulting questions

euro sorry about your BFN & AF. It is especially horrid when your hopes had been raised. Hope that you are okay.

wine sorry to hear that you are a medical enigma! Any news on your MRI appointment?

kitty Glad that your appointment went okayish. How do you feel about the IVF referral?

mrsd It feels like we have been contraception free for ever. I think it's because we spent a long time using the withdrawal method though I hate the full on contraception free SWI and agree that it is horribly messy. I lay there for as long as possible and then feel like I have to go and clean-up which is annoying when I just want to go to sleep!

joycep I can't believe how long I have been popping the vits now too. I wondered recently what effects, if any, taking folic acid for so long with no baby might have on the body? It all seems like such a waste of money. I too am paranoid about outing myself on here and keep thinking that certain people are dropping hints about it. Soooooooooooo hope that I am insanely paranoid and delusional and have got this wrong!

nelly are you still on the slopes? Any progress on your appointment or are they still stalling? I am utterly baffled/ticked off by the way my new GP surgery/area does things on the referral front. I have had several letters confirming the request, telling me I have an option of where to go but then a letter the next day telling me they have allocated me a clinic (a doctors surgery, which is totally baffling????). I'm not even sure that it is the gynae referral now and it might be for the vaginal ultrasound that I cancelled. Fed up of it all!!

city glad to hear that all is well with you and wish you loads of luck for your scan.

mess I think you are supposed to salute lone magpies. I have mastered the art of making it look like I am scratching my head so as not to look like a total nimrod.

Sorry for everybody I have missed but sending big hugs and waves. Also hello to applepie, minniepie (might change my name to cottagepie to fit in!!!) and lisa. BTW Lisa I'm so sorry to hear about your troubles and so sorry that your were made to feel upset at the hospital. That is dreadful.

Well will end epic post by saying that the wedding went okay-ish (a few major shitters but won't go into that). Thankfully DP DH made it really special and must have read a how to get married manual or something because he really surprised me by how lovely and soppy he was We are currently all loved up and doing sad things like sending eachother Valentines cards with Wife and Husband emblazoned all over them, I even have a, ahem, badge with wonderful wife on!!!! Am enjoying it while it lasts.
On the TTC front am around 6/7/8 DPO. I think that we missed ovulation by a day which is a bit gutting but am holding onto the hope that I read somewhere that you ovulate on the day EWCM stops. Am I kidding myself???

pout! You are back! I am glad the wedding went okish and that you are enjoying a loved up Vally's Day with your new husband!

pout and others, I share your irritation about the pre-fertility treatment quizzing. Why when there is no general test of fitness to have a baby is there one for people with fertility issues? I can see there would be a tabloid outcry if someone who has had kids taken away by SS got fertility treatment to have more but it seems so unfair that there is a test that only we have to pass to have kids, in addition to all the other issues!

I doubt you can overdose on folic acid. It's present in some foods anyway. I really don't think that taking it for a while will do much harm. I did have a moment at the weekend though when I realised I must have spent over £150 on pregnancare conception alone, as it is about a tenner per pack!

I hope your referral goes ok. You might remember me having a bit of a meltdown on here last summer when mine got lost. Twice. The GP's receptionist sorted it out for me in the end.

Welcome LadyKB. Your symptoms do seem pretty indicative of PCOS. I think a lot of us have had trouble getting our OHs in for their tests. Mine is about to do his third and has delayed each one. My GP wouldn't refer us to a fertility clinic without it though. And it is certainly possible for both parties to have issues. A friend of mine had endo and her husband had a superlow SA. They have 3 ICSI kids now though.

Hi Pout Glad you and dh are all loved up and you had a good wedding day. I'm still lurking. Thank you and your not barren!

Mrs Pout - welcome back! Great to have you back. I am gla you and DH are all lovey dovey upped. And wonderful you had a good wedding although sorry about the Shitters. Oh I am paranoid too and keep thinking that people know. When someone calls you Pout and Me Joyce in RL I guess that means busted!

I have been buying the his and hers conception tablets for 24 months at £18 a month. Fuck me excuse my French but that's £400. Oh FFs , my friend who just had a baby didn't even bother with folic. Pout folic is really good stuff though and actually some people take double dosage if they have had a baby with spina bifida.

Big waves to Mrs pout - it's lovely to have you back. Congratulations again! Sounds like your DH has got off to a great start and so glad you're making the most of newly-wed loved-up-ness, what good timing for Valentine's.

I'm not liking all the working out of costs spent on vitamins. A quick tot up would suggest we're £200+ down from various mum/dad to be not to mention the manuka, acupuncture, OPKs, HPTs, books, CDs and oh yes, IVF/ICSI I'm over the 'to be', I'd just like to be a mum now please.

Welcome ladykb - you're in the right place here! I feel your pain on trying to get your DH to keep his end of the bargain, hope he doesn't take too much persuading...

Thank you Ladies, it was a horrendous experience, I felt totally humiliated and belittled by the whole experience, I felt that once I started to cry I just disgusted her by being weak and emotional. Never mind onwards and upwards hopefully.

ladykb welcome, i'm pretty new here but this is a great board, very friendly and welcoming

mrspout yay! So pleased you are back, and that you and DH had a lovely time. It?s so nice that he made it special and you are enjoying being newly married, that?s just fab. Oh and you?re right about ovulation, it is the last day of EWCM I think, according to TCOYF anyway. Thanks for asking about the IVF referral. Well, I thought I was ok about it, and am sooo grateful that we (hopefully) get to have one NHS go. But ever since the appointment last week, I?ve been really anxious, I guess because it?s more real. Perhaps I just need a bit of time to man up and adjust to the idea.

ladyKB welcome, I hope you get your tests sorted soon.

wine I love the idea of all of us just finishing up our AF?s together and then all upping and moving over to the pregnancy boards. I hope your cold goes away soon in time for some SWI, are you still early in your cycle? There is nothing less sexy-making I agree! Other than maybe heavy AF which I?ve got at the moment ? yuck!

gin good luck with shag week

fatima hope AF turns up for you soon

lisa sorry your meeting was bad, as euro said I?m not sure why those personality types seem to end up in such sensitive job. Hope you feel better soon.

ladygee eeek for you ? excited

stasi any updates?

euro I really can?t bring myself to tot up how much I have spent on vitamins. I buy them all on 3 for 2 now which saves a bit of cash on the old Pregnacare and Wellman.

I?m feeling really yucky with this ERTD. Have just scoffed a couple of ryvitas with omega 3 seed butter, and then followed it up with a load of chocolate. I?m not just I?m ever going to get grips with this low GI malarkey. :(

I'm writing on the sofa and I am SO full up of rich and naughty goodies that we have been cooking up today. Take that Zita West.

mrspout hurray for wife badges and to have you back on the thread, you are so good at cheering us up. Im glad Mr Pout was a big old romantic. I too get paranoid for outing myself on here it's a shame it's not more private as I'd love to hear all about your day. And how daft is it that ewcm dries up just as you ov, it doesn't seem quite right to me! But that's exactly what happens to me.

lemon boo hoo about your collar bone how painful and horrid. Maybe you should just post us a picture of a biscuit every now and then and we can wave hello! Get better soon x

gin good luck with the shagging and the urologist.

Fatima weeing on a stick always bring my period on in about half an hour! Good luck :)

Lisa I'm so so sorry that you've had such a crap experience. It's shocked me a bit. Can you see someone else? Hope you're ok.

I tell you what else shocked me, that thread!! I like mumsnet and feel like in terms of the forums I've wandered across, it suits me. I like the humour and the lack of 'babydust' twee stuff, which I'm sure is important to some people but isn't very me. And I've found you ladies and that has been invaluable. BUT don't the threads get nasty sometimes? What's that all about? The way people made reference to people who struggle to conceive was like we are some Other Women all wrapped up in bitterness and oversensitivity. Sometimes I look at threads about education and I'm amazed at the venom spouted about teachers too.

I'm waiting for my MRI scan apt. Given that I asked to go private which would be two weeks and was told there was no need, it had better come soon! I really need this thing out because we have a lot of stuff planned for may and June and I don't want to be laid up recovering. And, oh yes, I'd quite like a baby please! And I'm now on cd10 but have had very sharp ovary pain on the left today. Mm. I do wonder if vitex is a bit of a gamble. I'm taking the lowest dose though but things don't feel quite the same as normal. I have been a bit fevery with high temps though so who knows how this month will play out. I never get ov pains on the left though, it's felt quite strange. kitty you are right about unsexy times, I look disgusting. But boys aren't put off that easily are they?! I think you deserve chocolate today.

Waves to anyone I've missed and still thinking of you Ladygee is it going slowly?

wine sorry you are all coldy. I just tell my husband he has to do me anyway when I am all spotty from the Letrozole. Who said romance was dead, eh?

kitty I was caught a bit off guard by my IVF referral back in November. I was expecting to have to fight for it at some point down the line, not have it thrust on me at my second fertility clinic appointment. But three months on, now I think we are actually getting close to starting to the process, I feel much more ready. It's not how I want to get pregnant but if it works, it will be worth it

wine thank you, i'm getting over it now, but its something i'll struggle to forget. I hope you get your appointment for your MRI soon. I know what you mean about that thread and 'us having problems' like we should shut, it made me laugh when some of them kept going on about freedom of speech!!! Clearly that was only ok if you said what they wanted to hear. Glad this place is friendly and civilised :-)