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Countmyblessings · 02/01/2012 00:50

Hi Ladies - this flight is going on Auto - pilot !
Feeling good things for all still wanting to stay aboard our Flight BFP2012- Welcome one and all!
As we share this journey!

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Winkly · 04/02/2012 22:24

Self Indulgent Post Warning
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I am already exhausted. We've really not been trying long but I waited sooooo long to TTC, and I want it so badly it hurts. Nobody else cares, not even DH really. It doesn't help that he can be, erm, a touch lazy in the bedroom department.
I know that all being well, it's just a matter of time and patience, but I wish I could fast forward to the end. Everyone else seems to be pregnant except me. My life is fine, great really, as it is, but there is a big hurty gap. And no-one cares.

That is all.
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Winkly (30) TTC #1 cycle 4 AF due 27 Feb.

coveredinflour · 04/02/2012 23:17

Winkly! I think a lot of people here know exactly how you feel. Men don't generally understand the yearning that we women have to become mothers - and not every woman feels it so strongly. Like you, i've been waiting a long long time to ttc and am desperate for it to happen asap.

Do you have a friend you could talk to about it? Sounds like you're feeling pretty down and could do with a bit of tea and sympathy (or empathy).

Apparently it takes an average, totally normal couple about 6 months to conceive so with luck its not far away for you. Perhaps try booking a holiday during your ov week so you can relax and dtd without worrying about work and chores? Might help DH be less lazy too.

Either way, you're not alone in this and there's every reason to believe it will happen in the next couple of months.

Discolite · 05/02/2012 09:19

We care Winkly. Honest we do. I tried to remain upbeat and calm but it got me down so much sometimes, I thought I would never conceive. My DH was supportive but to be honest, although he wanted me to get pregnant, he didn't have the overwhelming biological urge that I did.

Everyone I knew in real life well enough to ask how long it had taken to conceive said the first or second month, so I definitely felt like it would never happen. As I was ttc my first and DP doesn't have children either we had no idea if we were fertile or not so I spent a lot of my time just wondering about that.

Come back and be self-indulgent anytime you want until you feel better! Don't give up hope!

alexeliza · 05/02/2012 11:49

Winkly we care! And we definitely understand what you're going through! I think we all have a small element of self doubt sometimes as well......
I honestly could kick myself sometimes as it was only when I was hospitalised with a pulmonary embolism two years ago and started being tested for blood disorders and have been told I will be at a higher risk of miscarriage that I even really thought of children....... and now I want it so bad yet there is always a worry that I left it too late.
DH has been fine, although he was adament that he never wanted children, he has come around to the idea as he realised how important it is to me, and yet he still can make some flippant comments...... "aren't you pg now?" (after the first cycle!)..... "if nothing happens in 2 years then we give up right?". I know he's not doing it to be hurtful, and that it's a form of self defense (he himself has epilepsy and given the medication he's been on for years, he worries that there may be some impact on his fertility and he won't be able to get me pg).
Then there's the balancing act of trying to work out when ov is, and trying to ensure that DH is, ahem, ready for action.... without making it sound to him like the be all and end all is falling pg and that I'm only after him for one reason!! No wonder this can be so stressful at times!!
I do so understand though..... everywhere you look, everyone seems to be pg or have just had their babies......
I have to admit, I used to lurk on the MN site but am so glad to have discovered all you guys, just for the chance to ask questions, compare experiences and just vent at times!!!
Winkly I hope you do feel better soon - thinking abut you!! x

Rusulka · 05/02/2012 12:59

Morning ladies! (well, it is for me, I only just got up) Grin

Ah, lots to catch up on.

Festie I hate H&M with a passion, ever since as a (not that fat) 20 year old I tried on a dress and couldn't even get a size 20 over my probably-not-much-bigger-than-a-16-at-the-time bottom. I cried in the dressing room that day and swore never to give my custom to a shop that so obviously didn't cater for curves...
Interesting pattern. Not for me, reminds of something, but I'm not sure what. I think the moose in the get-along gang wore something similar to the brown outfit. I may have misremembered that though...

Disco thanks for the tips re: John Lewis. They are exactly what I was looking for, but horrifically expensive- even with my 25% discount! Have bookmarked some of the others though, they look a bit more reasonable!
And no, you're not weird for wanting to dress a baby in black. My mum and dad suggested I dress ours in black, like the baby from the Addams Family, and my sister suggested drawing on a moustache... I turned round and DH just had this look of OH YEAH! on his face- and I did too! Lol. Hell, if there's going to be nappy pins around, may as well make a punk statement at the same time...

I saw a pattern in a book once for a hat which was a union jack helmet style hat with earflaps, and it had a red wool mohican on it. It was awesome. A baby needs one of these! I expect I could just get my mum or sister or someone who can knit on needles smaller than 20mm (hangs head in shame) to just knit a baby cap with earflaps, and I could tuft in the mohican...it can't be that hard!

Lil I would put ov at either cd10 or 14. Like Moo says, wait and see what your next temps are... btw did you manage to dtd twice in one day? Superwoman!!!

Alex I know just how you feel,as I went to art school, and spent a good many years just buying wool from charity shops for no other reason than it was pretty, cheap and I damn well wanted it. All my crafting supplies are generally in plastic lidded tubs I bought from Asda, and they all stash neatly under the bed. We have 4 rooms in our house, so the double guest room has an under-bed space stuffed with boxes, as does the single guest room, and my jewellery-making stuff is in the living room...somewhere... there's a desk in there which was supposed to be for hobbycraft, but got buried in crap.

We're going to put the cot in our room, and frankly keep it there, or it's going to be hard for my family to come and stay. I'll worry about more long-term solutions when I have to! Of course if I just learnt to knit on small needles I could knit loads of stuff and that would emtpy the boxes quickly... I'd like to build some storage, and have all the boxes along one wall for easy access. But that's on hold until DH lets me do proper DIY again. Sigh. [Thinks longingly of jigsaw and belt sander]...

And last but not least, Winkly, we're here, we care, and we all understand. You rant away whenever you feel like it. Sometimes guys can be completely oblivious of our feelings. They can't help it, they're just rubbish, lol!

JamRagRolyPoly · 05/02/2012 13:25

Hello, wondering if I could hop on board?

My DP and I decided to start SWI for our first officially! So excited Grin

I'm 25, he's 32. We both work full time. We've been together for 3 years and live together.

I'm on cd9 so expecting to ovulate 10th feb AF due 24th feb. I've got so,e clear blue opks.

DP doesn't have a high sex drive so is a little daunted about all the shagging that will follow soon. Any tips would be welcomed Smile

MooleyWooleyShamaLamaDingDong · 05/02/2012 14:14

Rusulka bugger the baby.....I want one of those!!! Grin super cool (although baby would look very cute in it!). Sorry you're still banned from DIY....harumph to men and their wrap us up in cotton wool beliefs. Am über jealous of all your craft skills though, I can barely sew on a button Blush although I did once attempt to knit a scarf, that ended up as a willy warmer Grin

Disco babies in black not only cool but super unique as well! Get so tired of all the traditional pink blue and yellow.

Winkly we are all entitled to a little self indulgence. This is why we are here. Self indulge away. And remember......it WILL happen. I know only too well how easy it is to slip into a "it will never happen" frame of mind, but you will get there. Men just don't get it, my DH certainly has no real idea what this means to me and how not ovulating makes me feel. As for the laziness I get around that by simply ordering DH to the bedroom!!

Welcome Jam may this flight get you safely to your BFP!!!!

Right, we have managed to dtd every day since Wednesday, so having a well earned rest tonight. Last nights was amazing though Blush think it was because I found my mojo!! Was really really horny (hoping that's a good ov sign). Just need that temp rise now (it is going up gradually) and then I'm back in that 2ww!!! Oooooooh please let this be my month

JamRagRolyPoly · 05/02/2012 14:16

Sounds like you're ovulating! I hope the tww goes quickly for you!

Lilliana · 05/02/2012 15:57

Winkly I could have written your post a week ago, esp after DH admitted he 'hasn't been trying that hard' up till now Shock so feel the last 2 yrs have been wasted and wish he had said something before :( He has said since that that's not exactly what he meant but it did make me think men have no clue about how tough it is to have it on your mind all the time - he thinks about it occasionally (when I drag him into the bedroom) but apart from that nothing - I'm the one temping, s spotting, counting days, POS, it never stops!
Don't be sorry for venting on here, we've all done it and we do all understand and care. I hope you're feeling more positive now, we're all here, anytime.

Moo Feeling horny is def a ov sign - fx for you!

Welcome Jam passes a Brew from the trolly

Rusulka love the hat, def need to make that one! My house sounds v similar, lots of boxes of hoarded junk things that will come in useful craft wise one day! Sadly knitting is one skill I never mastered but think the knobbly gherkin thing is going to change that as I really want one (Do you think I could make an adult sized one?!)

Thanks Moo and Rusulka for looking at my chart. I'm hoping it was CD 14 but for some reason I keep thinking day 15 which isn't as good swi wise. Feeling better now you have both gone for 14 :) (or 10 but from prev cycles 14 is more likely) It seems to be our pattern we go mad for a couple of days but then DH 'is tired' and we miss the most important days :( Have been shaaring my chart with DH so hope that he will understand a bit more next month.

Rusulka · 05/02/2012 17:26

Yeah I know Moo I want that hat so freaking much! Saw it in TKMaxx and, like a twat, didn't buy the book. To steal someone's self-admonishing phrase from a few threads ago, WHAT THE FUCK ACTUAL SELF. Grrf.

If you think the hat's cool though, how about these socks?

www.knitty.com/ISSUEss10/PATTduck.php

As the author rightly says, babies don't walk, so why the fuck do their socks have to be practical? Grin

And I should probably confess I can't knit. So don't feel bad, those of you that yearn to be nifty with needles, I can't bloody do it either!

Welcome Jam!

MooleyWooleyShamaLamaDingDong · 05/02/2012 17:58

Yes oh yes oh yes! When I get royally upduffed I am getting myself some needles and yellow wool and knitting me some of them!!! Or maybe getting my mother to instead!!!

I think I may have ov'd yesterday here is my chart any ideas? I know I have to wait for the temp shift, I'm so scared it might not happen because if my highish pre-o temps and I'll end up with another epic anovultory cycle [scared emoticon]

Bluetinkerbell · 05/02/2012 19:27

hi ladies, just returned from a conference, so catching up on posts.
I'm CD19, 12 DPO, have been feeling queasy for the last few days, breasts aching.
Did a IC when I came home, but was negative. Probably my wee wasn't strong enough.
Don't whether I should test in the morning with FMU and another IC, or an FRER or my expired CBD?
Or shall I wait a bit longer...

Discolite · 05/02/2012 19:31

'Royally upduffed'? Moo, does your maiden name begin with an M perchance? Grin

MooleyWooleyShamaLamaDingDong · 05/02/2012 19:36

Blue you've done so well thus far, if you can, I'd wait another couple of days and use the out of date CBD!!

Disco Grin I wish!! I doubt the future queen would be on here........but you never know!!!

I am crampy.........why am I always crampy!?!

Bluetinkerbell · 05/02/2012 19:39

thanks Moo I needed that... I know I need to wait... but it's so difficult!
I just keep telling myself AF is going to come any day soon, as I just feel I can't get my hopes up too much...

Lilliana · 05/02/2012 19:57

I have been looking at the stats and realised 'lite' seems to be rather lucky hmm lili-lite? Lil-lite? do you think it would help?!

Think you need more temps moo but cm is looking v good for ov :)

Blue I agree with moo, see if you can wait it out.

Ohh how exciting, you never know who might be on here!

Lilliana · 06/02/2012 07:08

Where is everyone? Hope you are all swi or testing and celebrating your BFPs!

Quick question, how many elevated temps do you need before ff puts in your cross hairs? I thought it was 3 but they haven't appeared yet.

MooleyWooleyShamaLamaDingDong · 06/02/2012 07:27

Lil I am here - just having issues with my computer at work Hmm

You need 3 temps that are higher than the previous 6; if one of those 3 temps is lower then FF will wait until it sees the next high temp before putting in the crosshairs. Have you got a link to your chart?

I was expecting to see a higher temp this morning for myself, instead it dropped. Wondered if it could be a fallback rise. I am also seeing a lot of EWCM (which is amazing considering the lack of it in the past) so I am going to engage DH in some love making anyway, just in case my body had previously geared up to ov and didn't make it and this drop is a second bite at the cherry, so to speak! When I play around with FF though, it puts ov back at CD13; if I am honest, i just can't see my temps getting high enough to see a thermal shift (although the EWCM is interesting)

Lilliana · 06/02/2012 07:49

my chart

Hi Moo though it strange you weren't here yet, hope the comp gets sorted. Thats what I thought about temps but my chart is a bit wonky this month.

EWCM is definately interesting! Get DH to the bedroom. I find that I get horny a couple days before ov (helpful!) so that would fit too. Every month I think that I won't get my temps high enough but they always seem to somehow! Don't worry just enjoy the swi Grin

MooleyWooleyShamaLamaDingDong · 06/02/2012 08:00

Lil your chart is interesting looking at the increase in temps and the constant rise, I would definitely say that you have already ov'd! I think what's throwing FF is the missed temp (bloody computers!) - any chance you could have a play around with the missed temp and see if you can get those crosshairs? Maybe try putting one in at 36.20 and see what happens, and if nothing, then try making it higer and lower until it bloody well complies!! Alternatively, you could override FF and put ov at CD14 (that looks to me the most likely ov day!). I have seen a lot of charts where they blatantly ignore FF's recommendations and do what they think is right; at the end of the day, it's not an exact science and you know your body better than anyone else!

If you don't mind me asking, how long does the....ahem....horniness last for? I was really horny on saturday, less so yesterday and as I am currently at work, it really is hard to tell!! I have never had this before (symptom of the PCOS i suppose) so it's really good to hear other people's experiences Grin

I also need to kick some ass at the hospital today, it's been over a month since my initial appointment, no results back and no HSG appointment. Every time i call though, it just rings and rings, no-one ever answers. And to make matters worse, the bloody work phones are down.................Happy Monday :)

Winkly · 06/02/2012 11:50

Just a quick one - thank you all for your kind words, I feel a lot better for reading them all! I guess I just need to find some patience and keep hoping. Moo ordering DH to the bedroom would be counterproductive sadly... Have you managed to get through yet? Is there an email address or an alternative number? Good luck!

And those socks are adorable by the way. Oh I wish I could knit! :)

Countmyblessings · 06/02/2012 12:20

Just updating my stats...

BFP First Class Upgrades
Rusulka
Glimpers
Mrs Sharp
Winne81
Festiemum
DeeLite
Discolite

Joining the Mile High Club SWI / 2WW ers

Cherrypiew3 (30) TTC#4 cycle 4 AF due 3rd Feb
Coveredinflour (28) ttc#1 cycle 1 af due 10th Feb(ish)
Liliana (31) ttc#1 cycle 23 af due 16th Feb
Bluetinkerbell (28) ttc #3 (DD1 3yo, DD2 forever a star) cycle 6 AF due around 16 Feb or whenever...
Countmyblessings (35) ttc3 CD10 - AF 17thFeb (cycle6)on 33 days cycle!!!
Mooley (30) ttc#1 cycle 10 AF due 18th Feb (possibly)
Notinmykitchen (36) ttc#2 cycle 17 AF due 20th Feb

Stats need updating -
Louloubella (27) ttc#1 cycle 6 af due 9th Jan (approx)
Calmbaby (31) ttc#2 cycle 18 af due 20th Jan
Jbadgirl(30)TTC no.2(ds1 became a star in 2004) cycle day 15 AF due 24th jan
Maisie55 (32) TTC#2 (DS1 19mths) cycle 6 AF due 26 Jan ish.
Winkly (30) TTC #1 cycle 3 AF due 31 Jan
Alexeliza (35) ttc#1 cycle 2 af due 24th Jan (approx -assuming 28 day cycle)
Eaglewings (43) ttc4 af due Jan 29th
AWomanCalledHorse (24) ttc#2 (DS1 3wks) cycle - AF not returned since DS
birth.

OP posts:
Countmyblessings · 06/02/2012 12:29

moowoo- they need to get those results to you thats just madness!
lill- i hear that may change my name also!
blue- ohhhh i really hope you are pregnant!!!!!!! that would be amazing!!!!!

well I'm in my 2ww - and so far so good feeling positive but never been so scared before as i have never planned being pregnant just happened before!!!!

hope everyone else is ok!!!!!!!! and didn't get snowed in!

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Rusulka · 06/02/2012 13:22

Prepare for rant
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I am so fucking cross with my midwife.

Don't get me wrong, she's perfectly lovely and chatty and all that, but after the disastrous weigh-in which has me at half a stone heavier than I am according to my wii fit, she says my BMI is 40, so I have to be referred to a consultant for monitoring.

And as for wanting to have peanut in the midwife-led unit? Fat chance. They won't let me. I'M TOO FUCKING FAT!!!

So.
No birthing pool, or aromatherapy, or any of the natural stress-free childbirth I was hoping for, where I could do what I wanted. I'm distraught to say the least.

I don't want to be poked and prodded. I want as little interference as possible. I don't want to be cut 'because it's standard practice'. I just want to be left alone to get on with it... and ironically, if they dick me about, that's what's going to get me stressed and upset and cause a difficult birth.

Fume.

Guess I'm just going to have to get over myself. Either that or lose some weight so I can give them 2 fingers when I finally go and then maybe I can get what I want... [schemes]

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