Just MC and ready to try again? Pregnant after MC and seeking somewhere safe to hide? Jump in the mosh pit for some serious metalling or settle yourself down in our padded cell. All welcome! (Part 19)

[Poppyjen]

Another new thread for some more serious metalling - we really are a chatty lot!

Here's to making it through the WTF cycle(s), metalling* like a teenager from the early '90s in the 2WW, BFP colds and other classic symptom spotting and hiding in the (nice and comfy) padded cell post BFP

If you have miscarried and are ready to TTC again, come and join us!

• For those currently wondering what our mosh pit antics have to do with ttc post MC, a fabulous typo in an earlier thread resulted in "mentalling" becoming known as "Metalling" - a far more fitting expression I am sure you will agree!

Welcome!

thelittlefriend so sorry about your MC like i said to madabout stick around, we have cake

Poas day has arrived .... BFN but at least it's over and done with. AF not due until tomorrow but I'm not hopeful. Especially not at this time in the morning!!! Good luck kel & maja I'm off to put a pot of strong coffee on!

thanks Marbles, newton I envy your coffee , sorry to hear about your BFN but st least you get to treat yourself for a bit .

Marbles had a very early positive result yesterday, AF not due for a few days but definitely a line on of those early test strips . Part of me just thinks "here we go again", i'm hoping 3rd time will be lucky. I think I'll wait to check that AF doesn't arrive and then go and see my doctor re aspirin. It would probably be handy to talk to EPU about it as the lady there was going to a conference last time I was in which was discussing aspirin and possible problems with low dose and miscarriage, which is the opposite to what has been thought up until now. Anyway, will talk to GP.

Here's hoping for more definite news this week, I'll keep checking in to see how everyone else is getting on. I must be mad wanting another one DS 22 months has just started having the most horrendous tantrums !

Sorry should read "marbles I had a very early"

Welcome thelittlefriend madabout. madabout, congrats on your BFP, don't know much about aspirin but going to the doctor sounds like a plan!

POAS day and also BFN chez moi too Aw newton, let's enjoy our coffee. We'll get there! Hopefully kels will have some good news? Big hugs!

maja what a big fat bummer... Want to properly treat myself to make up for it (? As if it would!) but haven't got the appetite foe anything.
Have left test in bathroom for dp (his lie in today) I can't bear to tell him

I know! DH is coming back from a week end at home tonight & I would have loved to give him some good news! Disappointing him makes me double sad.

Obviously it's not as if I've 'done's something to disappoint him, it's just hard to always be the one monitoring my body and taking tests and checking for AF/pg symptoms. He's super supportive and tries to get me to relax about it but it's difficult...

Urgh. Rubbish that you have been own your own this weekend
We've been swimming with DS this morning, mainly because I suspect it's much trickier with another baby in tow! He loved it, if I'd have let go I swear he would have swam off on his own. I was very he's obviously going to grow up to be an Olympic swimmer!! Anyway, I digress...point being, I'm going to plan plan plan lots of stuff for us to do,rather than stress about %232. Thanks bfn for the kick up the bum I needed! And dp just cooked a fry up whilst DS has his nap. (This is to sweeten me up as he has another night out planned for next weekend!!)

Hi to the new ladies...the cakes are a bit scarce of a weekend but tomorrow I suspect there will be lots of tasty treats on offer

newton & maja so sorry for the BFNs I am crossing my fingers that the testing was too early but I have made some pineapple upside down cake and a fresh pot of just in case xx

I had a meltdown last night and cried all over DH all I had seen all day was pregnant women/newborns and Facebook updates of the same so I worked myself up and ended up having a good cry and rant about how unfair it all is feel a little better now tho

The temptation to POAS can be irresistible. Just waiting till AF is a trial in itself. And then convincing your self it has to be a false -ve!

I think I am officially on a 2WW. Ov pains have stopped and temp up this am, though will have to wait a couple of days to check its a sustained rise. Had +ve OPK on Friday and EWCM yesterday so feeling very positive that I have at least ovulated despite it being a WTF cycle. And well timed SWI if so.... Testing on 5 th feb anyone?!

Hello ladies....Newton and Maja Apologies for the radio silence as I have my family visiting us this weekend.... So not the best time to get a BFN... Ho hum... I was expecting it though as the bleeding last week looks like it was an early AF ... On the bright side... If that WAS the case i'm on CD10 already .... Better luck for us all next month I'm sure of it... And anyway... We wouldn't be heavily preggers in the hottest months of the year... Surely a bonus?!??

Newton You were asking about whether I tested when I had my ??cp??... Well, that's why I'm really unsure... I didn't test after the erpc until 2 days before my next AF was due and I was getting preg symptoms again, I got a faint positive on a tesco cheapie and then a positive on a clear blue digi (I even had an appt booked at the EPU to find out if it was leftover from the mmc or a new preg) then, 3 days later on Christmas day I got horrible backache and bleeding followed by rivers of gore for the next few days (sorry if tmi!)... It wasn't until (tmi alert!) the bleeding stopped and we DTD again that I really thought it had been a cp because I had a really sore cervix again and the 'wtf-like' cycle... I'm still not sure... Who knows...

Anyhoo... DH has just made me some delish frozen yoghurt in our new ice cream maker.... I'll pop back a bit later with some of the GOOD stuff for all you ladies who deserve it... Any flavour requests?

Marbles Feel for you with the pregnant women/friends/Facebook malarky... I've had a similar meltdown this week and DH, who is usually soo understanding, said to me 'aren't you pleased for her' when I fell to pieces after the 3rd pregnancy announcement in the last few weeks... It's so painful and feels like its being rubbed in your face (even when miss rational inside does understand how exciting it is for the lucky cows ladies). I've been consoling myself with knowing when it does happen for us again I will be serene and understanding that not everyone will be jumping for joy at big announcements and conversations containing only baby talk... Maybe!! You aren't alone xx

Thanks marbles ...cake! I am also kind of --clutching at straws-hoping (and kicking myself for it) that I might have tested early? AF was due yesterday & all the pre-AF symptoms I've had all week have suddenly disappear... then I woke up and realise that since I only mc two months ago, and I'm still on the WTF period and shouldn't expect normal cycles to start with. Ah well, pineapple cake & sounds lush!

newton & kels... hugs! We'll get there!

marbles & kels re: other people's pregnancies. I am going home for a visit next month (I come from Espain!) and I know that quite a few friends are TTC. I'm terrified that I'll got and they'll all be pg but me. And I feel so guilty for feeling this way, shouldn't I wish for them to get what they want? I do but I am not sure I can keep an straight face not break into tears & epic meltodown in a face to face announcement.

I'm sorry for all the BFNs :(

Yes I facebooked today to find one picture of a brand new vernix coated baby, one picture of an A-OK 20 week scan, one person in the second trimester complaining of backache, one who was due the same week as me feeling sorry for herself moving house when pregnant, one saying she felt very pregnant today, another getting cross at people who tell her seven children is too many, and so on down the news feed. Oh and several who posted pics of positive tests with the word 'only joking' instead of 'pregnant' in the window when you looked closely. Ha-ha-ha-fucking-hilarious I'm sure

Then we went for Sunday dinner at SIL's to talk all about their new pregnancy. They weren't trying and she said it was SUCH a long wait till the scan because they found out really early at 3+ weeks! (Yes she meant 3+ on the digital tests) - Ahem. Scan pictures shared out etc. Other family there asking if they knew the sex yet.

So I said we'd find out the sex of our baby on Thursday if anyone was interested.

Thanks for the welcome everyone. Nice to know some of you are already pregnant again, I'm very good at looking on the negative side, so it's good to have some positive reminders that it can work out ok in the end.

Hope you all had good weekends. I've got no cake to offer, but there's one of those multi-packs of creme eggs in the fridge if anyone fancies one

hugs to you all and I've just made some bread and butter pudding if anyone's intersted

Well kel and maja...POAS day didn't quite live up to expectations!!! What day are we testing next month? Will we have a preferred brand? (I went for a pound shop cheapy and saved my branded ones for BFP checking. I do not need to see a BFN more than once!!)

marbles and coffee Thanks for your support (and everybody else!) I've never done the TTC thing before and it's so annoying (perfectionist :o ) to not get something right first time IYKWIM

Kel urgh. Sorry for making you go over it again, I see what you mean about not knowing. I was just thinking that my first period after ERPC was "rivers of gore" and the last time I had one like it was pre-DS. In fact (now I've mulled it over a little bit) at the time, DP had suspected I was pregnant (I was probably in denial!) and we were moving house. My parents were there and we had a tiff as he didn't want me to lift, and I didn't want to draw attention to myself. That evening, I had the worst period I'd ever had and told DP I was clearly right, and I wasn't pregnant at all. Since I've been looking into all this TTC stuff, I've realised that that may have been a CP. I guess it's irrelevant in the grand scheme of things, as I conceived DS 2months later.

To all those with pregnant friends.... I'm feeling quite "lucky" at the moment, as I don't know anyone who is pregnant, but I ache every time I see a frined on facebook that has two girlies with the same age gap as my DS and the baby I lost would have been. She is not boastful or moany about having two so young, but she reminds me of what I lost for DS, not for myself. I know I'm so blessed to have one little scamp already.....

Today we have booked the hotel for the afore mentioned wedding in September. The practical arrangements still make me :( as I had already planned to wear a maxi dress with dc2 in a moby wrap and I'd look all frazzled glowing with DS behaving like an angel all day Stupid, isn't it. Finger crossed I'll be heavily pregnant and won't have to go at all!!

Sorry for the mega long post, but I can't just eat cake and run, it's not in my nature!

Mmmm bread and butter pud... Thanks!!

Hi everyone, been on here off and on since mc on New Year's Eve. Still in WTF cycle but AF would be due this Thurs if counting MC as if it were a period? Think that's right! Anyway, don't think I've ov'd at all as no EWCM. Do you normally not OV until the cycle after your WTF cycle? Only asking as frined said you were more fertile straight after MC but don't think I was :-(

I am in a worse way that I thought. I just watched Enchanted -for the third time-- and I'm getting ol teary eyed listening to Adele's Someone like You. I need cake!

crystaltea36 Sorry you had to find yourself here but welcome and make yourself comfy. After mc many of us seem to experience the wtf cycle where everything is weird (length of cycle, length of AF, symptoms, everything). Maybe your cycle is longer this time? Some people get pregnant straight after mc so it would seem that some people do ovulate, not sure if absolutely everyone does?

If it's any consolation, I think you are meant to be fertile for a few months after mc, not just the first cycle so don't despair. Loads of ladies here are now preggie after having experienced an mc! Also, I found the first month after mc absolutely horrendous (it was December: my birthday, my wedding anniversary, Christmas - whoop fucking whoooop) but things got better after that so hold on there!

yeah i had a mc last July, was ok really after that, then another at the end of October. the 2nd really knocked me sideways I must admit but after a couple of months time out I've been ok recently and we've started trying again. I know it doesn't feel like it now but for those of you who have had 1st or 2nd mc it will get better. not in place to comment on having more than this. plus a family member had 2 mc and an ectopic and lost a tube and went on to have 2 DDs naturally after this, so keep positive xx

Sorry, mean more fertile, obviously.

hi crystal, I think I remember you from a mc thread. Sad to see you here, but pleased too that you're thinking of TTC. It seems from what I've read here that everyone's WTF cycles are different, and we all get anovulatory cycles sometimes, so why should the WTF cycle be different. I have a sort of pragmatic belief that nature sometimes knows what's best (that's my attitude about my mc anyway), and maybe not ovulating straight away is her giving you a bit of extra time to recover physically and emotionally. Frustrating though.

Having been completely wobble-free since about 4 days after the mc started, I've had a couple of "moments", one set off by the babies on "call the midwife" this evening. FFS. Also had an moment when a cousin announced that she is due 3 days after mine would have been. But I must remind myself that the pg was "anembryonic" and there was no baby to be due.

I've just been comparing my current chart with the one where I conceived prior the mc (the only chart I'd ever done). Talk about WTAF. The overall pattern is almost identical. Is this common? If the current chart confirms ovulation yesterday then our SWI has been better timed than last time....is this metalling or what?!

Hello. Hope it's OK if I join this thread.

I feel a bit of a fraud here because my mc was very very early - about 4w5d, we had only got the (very faint) positive test a couple of days earlier then I started bleeding on Thursday.

We want to keep trying, but I do have a couple of questions, I don't know if anyone can help.

One is that I've been really surprised how (relatively) light the bleeding was, it's already stopped completely and overall it's been a bit less heavy than a normal period. Is this common for such an early miscarriage or might there be some more to come still? I'm sure I'm not still pregnant as (ironically) I feel so much better in myself (was feeling really sick and exhausted), I'm just surprised it was so quick.

The other is that I had a really bad unexpected shock the night before (on Wednesday evening - I heard that my sister has cancer). Do you think it's possible that this contributed? I know it's a sort of horrible question but I've been wondering whether a shock is ever a factor.

Very grateful for any thoughts!