IVF/ICSI Hand holding

[Pinkforboys]

The old thread seems to have run out of room... I'm hoping this works as a continuation...

Hi All, I'm back at home after a very long morning in the hospital. In for 8am but not in the surgery until 12.20. Very thirsty!
They only got 8 eggs so I'm feeling a little disappointed. They're talking ICSI which in my view isn't great, but I don't know all that much about it. Everything is crossed now that a good number fertilise tomorrow....
blacktreacle have you called your nurses? You may just be having a reaction to the drugs, but it's worth checking to find out.
I'm off to bond with the sofa & an episode of Glee before DH returns with DS.
x

Hello All,
Thanks blacktreacle for reminding me that I need to take my other dose of Voltarol. Unpleasant as it is!
I now have 2 embies on board after a marathon 40 minute transfer session. Turns out my 'slightly' heart-shaped womb was a real challenge and after missing the target, then hitting but missing one of the embies, they finally left me with one embryo in each chamber. And one leftover to develop another day and hopefully make it to the freezer tomorrow. Oh- and I had to sit on a full bladder for 3 hours. Altogether an experience I would like to forget. I just hope the outcome in 9 months overshadows this afternoon.
How are the TWW's going? I'm not supposed to test for 16 days, yet in Oz I had my blood test just 11 days later. How long has/is everyone else waiting to test?
Happy rest of weekend x

I'm not at 2ww stage yet, but I know I'm supposed to wait 16 days too. It seems like quite a long time, but I suppose it means you get a definite answer :/

jumping I am so sad for you. How devastating. Thinking of you and sending you lots of hugs. You sound very strong.
Ivf is such a tough journey isn't it. We are almost not allowed to enjoy any of this experience - it's fraught with anxiety all the way through.
Anyway I hope guys are being helpful and compasionate.
Zb

Hi clo - we only had to wait 12 days after ET to test. I Think some clinics have different "rules". 2ww was ok to start wiith - then after about the 4th day we both found it hard to deal with. The key is to keep busy, look after yourself and if you have the zita west relaxation cd - I found that v helpful after a long day...
pink your ET sounds joyless! Glad they got there on the end tho. Keep well.
sorry - on my phone doing this message on bumpy bus ride to work!
Excuse the typos!
Good luck todayeveryone
zb

Thanks for your kind words ladies - posting on here and getting this support has been so valuable.

Believe me, I'm not being brave - I've spent much of the last 2 days blubbing and feeling very 'not brave'. However, the only thing we can do now is look to the future, 'what doesn't kill you makes you stronger' and all that.

Sending love, waggles and to all of you x

A lovely quote from Audrey Hepburn- Nothing is impossible, the word itself says 'I'm possible'!

Hi all, posting from my bed in recovery ward, had procedure at 9.15am but was in a lot of pain when I came round and they have to keep me here till 1.30. Unfortunately I'm not allowed to have a nap either :(

Pain came from the 31 eggs they collected! Just been told I'm at risk of moderate to severe OHSS which isn't much fun. Was a bit jealous when the people in the next cubicle left at about 10.30am to go to Costa - she even went in theatre after me! But I suppose I shouldn't complain about the number of eggs. Let's hope some of them fertilise...

Clo that sounds terrible - really hope that you are doing a bit better by now. Look after yourself xxx.

jumping I'm so so sorry what you and your other half are going through - I don't have any clever words, but just to let you know there are real and heartfelt feelings for you from me and the all the other posters. It is true that your got a BFP though and I hope that gives you lots of positivity going forward.

Re the other question on time from testing, I tested 11 days after my 5 day blastocyst transfer.

Also on testing questions, I thought it was 16 days after EC so that will mean different dates after ET depending on what day ET you had.

Clo- how awful, but 31 is fantastic! You could start up a football league with that lot!
Take care in recovering. x

Oh and pink just properly read your post about ET - also sounds ouchy and have no idea, err, how you kept the wee in so long! Fingers crossed for it all being worth it xx.

Thanks all for your well wishes. At home in bed now, still in quite a bit of pain and having to drink 4 litres of water a day to try to alleviate OHSS, but happier for being in my own bed with my hot water bottle :)

cloclo glad you are at home with hotty, sorry it has been such an ordeal great number though canapes, music and the obligatory champers on route.
Pink oouch my bladder would never have survived well done.

fingers crossed we my have sold the house tomorrow. (we moved out a few months ago). otherwise no news from me.

Still trying to find someone who does acupuncture near stafford where is a good place to look.

Cloclo- well done on 31 eggs, hope you feel better soon. I was high risk of ohss, but not as many eggs as you- 21. I didn't get it. I was on cabergoline and drank lots of water, also they say isotonic sports drinks to keep your electrolyte balance. Lots of protein also salty foods.
If you are still in a lot of pain you can have cocodamol, I checked.
Xxx

bugsy- have you tried www.acupuncture.org.uk/?

Is anyone else on Clexane? I'm finding the evening shots really painful. Imagine if all you had to do was have sex to get pregnant If everyone had to go through what we're doing to get a child the world's population would be soooo much smaller....

Hi all, have had the phone call and of the 31, 25 were big enough for ICSI and of those 18 have fertilised. I had hoped that more would fertilise, but it still might mean some frosties depending on how they get on. The embryologist said about 20-30% will probably be viable in the end. Looks like we might be transferring on Saturday rather than Friday which at least gives me a chance to recover as I'm still feeling very sore today.

clo amazing news on your record (?) egg collection and that's a really good rate of fertilization too. Of my 20 eggs only 11 fertilised, and of those we had 2 put back and 4 on ice. It was half and half ivf and icsi...
bugs good luck with accupuncture - I found it v useful throughout the ivf process. It de stressed me at times I most needed it.
pink I like your Hepburn quote- inspiring.
jumping how are you doing today? Keep thinking about all you've gone thru. Sending you some good vibes and some 's

zb

Hi zeebee, it's really hard cos you just don't know how they are going to get on do you? DH's sperm is pretty poor, so I suppose if we at least get to blasto stage we'll have a better idea of what is viable, especially as we will only be allowed to transfer one. Am I right that after day 3 the sperm starts to affect development more? I'm sure I heard that somewhere :/

Hi Clo don't know if I'm being helpful, but there is some evidence that suggests that you don't necessarily get a better outcome if you get more than 15/16 eggs - but obviously it you get 15/16 (or more!) then you do get the best outcomes statistically. So I think with 18 fertilised you have a really good prognosis so you should be hopeful! That's huge potential for both some nice blastos to choose from at ET and some for the freezer. Plus remember you only need one good one anyway.

On the sperm, you're right on the day 3 stuff. If embryos develop slowly before day 3 it's more likely due to the quality of the egg and after day 3 then the sperm comes into play. But with ICSI the embryologists are able to pick out the best swimmers and even if your DH's count and quality isn't great there will have still been loads to choose from. Promise x.

Thanks Teds. Bit worried - my blood tests yesterday showed no signs of OHSS according to the nurse who phoned earlier but I have just vomited - do you think I should call them back? :/

I would call if you have vomited. If you're blood tests are clear that's great but I think it's better to be safe.

pink thanks for the link.
clo glad your blood tests are ok hope you are feeling better. could just be the effect of the drugs they used for collection. great news on fert rate the problem is wewant them all to work and all to be top grade.
jumping you are in my thoughts.

is anyone able top do a list to show where we all are?

Decided I really ought to look at protocol today so it is suprecur 0.5ml sc, then for stim menopur 225 units and gonalF 150 units how does that compare I think my AMH was 8.7. think I will repeat it and TSH tomorrow to see if there has been a chnge as it is more than 6 months what do you all think. Have really kept my head in the sand have not read the info, note to self get finger out of hole and head out of sand.

House sale done yippee.

Well I called the clinic and left a message - they eventually got back to us about 4 and said if I had vomited then I needed to go up to the gynae ward. We got there at 4.45 and have just got back now. We waited 3 and a half hours to be seen! My bloods and urine were fine but there was noone around to do a scan so I have to go back again tomorrow :( feel knackered, starving and officially hate waiting room chairs.
Also, did anyone else get serious bloating/trapped wind from the progesterone? My belly is killing because nothing is shifting, apparently progesterone slows the muscles down but none of my trousers fit!

That sounds really miserable cloclo. Glad you are home in your own bed. The progesterone makes me constipated etc. Fibogel and lactulose are both fine- checked with my clinic.
Hope the scan tomorrow is ok.