IVF/ICSI Hand holding

[Pinkforboys]

The old thread seems to have run out of room... I'm hoping this works as a continuation...

Hi All, I'm back at home after a very long morning in the hospital. In for 8am but not in the surgery until 12.20. Very thirsty!
They only got 8 eggs so I'm feeling a little disappointed. They're talking ICSI which in my view isn't great, but I don't know all that much about it. Everything is crossed now that a good number fertilise tomorrow....
blacktreacle have you called your nurses? You may just be having a reaction to the drugs, but it's worth checking to find out.
I'm off to bond with the sofa & an episode of Glee before DH returns with DS.
x

Hello all, Happy Hallowe'en! Have spent a happy morning baking cupcakes for the kids at school and faffing about with pumpkin lights etc! Love it [hgrin]. Tedious tooth update: spoke to the specialists and they had a cancellation, so am going in tomorrow after I said how much pain I've been in. It really is the worst (and I've had a lot of surgery). Trouble is, I was meant to have the treatment last month, but my normal chap couldn't numb me enough, so have to now go private and get special endodontist to fix instead [hshock] V good news thanks Blacktreaclecat about codeine though. Hurrah for opiates...! Hope everyone's well today and really pleased CloClo that you're feeling much better today. What a relief!

Sending waves, hugs and witch-decorated cupcakes to all. x

Glad the codeine has helped MrsMiggins - it's strong stuff, as I discovered last week!
I will be back at work tomorrow so hoping that year 11 will take it easy on me! To be fair, all my classes are quite good this year, can't complain :) Going to struggle to muster the energy to teach them this week though.

I have already convinced myself that my 'above average' blasto has not worked and have started planning when we will have our next cycle in my head already. I have read that overstimulation can affect egg quality, so I'm hoping that next time they might be able to reduce my dose, leave me in less pain and perhaps get fewer better quality embies.

I am also kind of kicking myself that I didn't ask for two to be transferred. The embryologist/consultant never once suggested it, and even though no others had reached blasto by that morning I'm sure they could have put in a morula. I don't really feel like I've taken enough control over all the decisions, but it's all such a whirlwind you just seem to get swept along :/

Just found out that of the 14 still alive on day 4, only one more other than the one we transferred made it to blasto and it wasn't good enough to freeze. I am so devastated. I'm sure there must be something really wrong to go from 31 eggs to only one blasto :( so upset

Oh Cloclo that's not the best of news- you must be right about the quantity over quality. At least you've got one in the oven and fingers crossed it'll stay put for the next 9 months. If not at least your consultants have learnt from the experience and can adjust your meds accordingly next time.
I know you don't want to have to go through it all again- we didn't either- especially not if you're paying for it!- but I guess sometimes they can only learn from your response. On this second round for us they gave me a mix of Gonal-F and Menopur to improve the quality, hopefully I'll be able to tell you in 12 weeks time that it has improved the quality and that we've got further than our last round got us.
In the meantime- do try to enjoy being PUPO. The ones that didn't work are irrelevant now, it's the one on board that counts.
Relax xxx

Hi Pink, thanks for your reply.

What I'm worried about is that it might be down to the sperm since they all stopped growing after day four. We are going through this anyway because of DH's poor count, morphology and motility - I was hoping that ICSI would bypass this, but after researching last night why this could have happened it might be down to bad DNA which you can't tell from appearance. Apparently men with Type 1 diabetes are likely to have more DNA fragmentation.

I am so scared that we will go through this again and end up with nothing to transfer. I'm also terrified that even if we do get a BFP with this one, it will probably miscarry. I keep thinking that if you had a set of 14 TVs and 13 didn't work properly, you wouldn't have much faith in the other one not going wrong soon :(

Clo am sorry to hear your news. It's definitely worth asking lots of questions at your follow-up appointment but all this might not matter if your little blasto does the trick.

The pregnancy rate for blastos is really high so little clo could be busy dividing away right now - especially as we're all waggling for him/her! And ICSI should circumvent all but the most severe sperm problems. Sending you some (((hugs)))

Morning all from a lovely sunny Autumny Borders. How's everyone? Clo, how are you feeling? Blackcat, went to endodontist yesterday who has popped me to to the top of her list for a root canal at hideous expense asap. They were lovely there though, so feel much more confident that it'll be fixed now.

AF has arrived with a fanfare this morning, so off for a scan either tomorrow or Friday. My periods are super-short, so they want me in asap. Gross question, but do I actually get scanned while, er bleeding? . Is that what happened with others? I guess I thought I was scanned when it was over...v icky. Sorry if TMI.

Hope everyone is well and having a good uneventful week iyswim!

Waves and waggles to all, x

Hey Missmiggins, yup- scan midflow is the norm. Take comfort in that whilst it's an uncomfortable first for you, it's a 'seen it all before' for the person doing the scan. Just lay back and think of England (or is it Scotland for you?)

Meanwhile I'm trying desperately to distract myself from thinking about P-Day. Last time I got to have a BT on the equivalent of today, then a P-Test 4 days later. I can't believe I still have to wait another 7 days to find out this time...[heavy sigh]

Icky McIck. Oh well, as you say Pink, they've seen it all before, but still bit gross. Something about periods for me that are oddly super-personal somehow! They've not got back to me today, so I guess it's on Friday now. Hope I'm still going by then, as I have dodgy short periods of around 24-36 hours. Fingers crossed for you that the wait isn't too hideous. To take your mind off things, I've just been reading on MN a great thread about how to tie your scarf in a million different ways. V interesting and I recommend. x

Hi MrsMiggins, I'm ok, went back to work today, only had two lessons so thought it would be good to break myself in gently before full day teaching tomorrow. Had another blood test this morning to check for OHSS - I surely must be out of the woods with this by now? I managed to get out of work an hour early so just cuddled up in bed with the cats at the minute.

I'm still gutted about all our embies, but at least have stopped crying about it now. I feel almost certain that this hasn't worked though, I don't know why. Already looking into when we could have another go. To ladies who have done this before, how long did you wait between gos?

Hi all... I have my first IVF consult tomorrow...am feeling pretty nervous.

DH and I have been trying for a baby for 4 years, we had an ectopic (my 2nd) and exploratory laparoscopy showed blocked tubes. I wanted to hook up with other ladies going through similar... I have no idea what to expect, so will try and take it each day at a time.

So nice to know we are not alone going through this. Hugs to all of you xxxxx

Hi can I join you?

We are on our 4th ICSI ( lucky no 2 gave us DS) so we are trying for a sibling. Just started the pill so everything seems a long way off!

Congrats on the BFP's, hugs to those with BFN's.

Cloclo - just to sat don't worry your embie is in the best place, when I got pg I only had a 3 day transfer, they were grade 2, 4 & 6 cell and none made it to blast or freezing! Fingers crossed for you.

Aww, Cloclo, so sorry to hear you've been so sad. Try to stay positive if you can and visualise happy things and happy places. Am not being a big hippy, but I do believe in the power of positive thinking. Cats always help! When I asked my surgeon how long the wait was in case my first go didn't work, he said wait one period, then try again. So not long, is my impression.

Welcome to Vics and Piglet. May this be a happy positive place for you both.; I've found it brilliant to both learn things and ask silly questions like I did before I started. Am sending . . I have my first scan on Friday after being on buserelin for 11 days, so hope I get the go-ahead to start my gonal f pen after that.

So, happy Thursdays all, may they be kind to you. x

Cloclo I echo what Mrsmiggins says. it can be so hard to stay positive, but remember the thread chant it only takes one which is hopefully bedding down and keeping comfy. try not to analyse every symptom preg and AF can feel identical and everyone has diff symptoms I had none with DS. I know it must be devestating to have had such a large number of eggs and be left with no more but hopefully you will not need it right now.
vics good luck with you appointment today hope it brings some answers and positive news.
piglet welcome glad you can join us.

Thanks bugsy, more stresses today as I got a bit of very light brown/yellow watery discharge today. Usually get this a day or two before my AF so totally convinced it hasn't worked now. I am 5dp5dt today, and fully expecting AF to arrive tomorrow or Saturday. I normally have quite a short luteal phase so I think my own cycle might be breaking through.
The worst thing about this 2WW is I can't bear for my DH to be disappointed and feel like I do now. He is still holding out hope I think :/

Cloclo here's hoping for you and keeping fingers crossed and praying for a miracle. Hugs at this really stressful time

Hugs from me too. You can get implantation bleeding at ironically the same time as a period (I understand), so it could be that too. Holding out hope and good vibes for you. There's always hope, so hang on to that thought!
On the subject of AF, mine is coming to a rapid end, so hope they'll be able still to see helpful stuff on my (not so yucky!) scan tomorrow. No idea what results to expect. Eek.

Hi I have brown discharge and have had it since 6dpt. I think it is implantation plus the pessaries irritate my cervical erosion.
My clinic said as long as it isn't red don't worry.
I think it could be a good sign

I'm not sure - had a bit more pinky brown spotting this morning. I know spotting can be a sign of implantation but I would have thought 5/6 days post transfer would be a bit late for it?

However, I'm not feeling as down today. Being at work and teaching all day does wonders for my sanity. The kids make me forget all about it - it's the only time I do. I'm lucky I've been really enjoying my job this year.

Hope you are good blacktreacle?

My turn to be worried today. Having felt pretty confident that it had worked (sore boobs, disrupted nights, achey abdomen, feeling generally out of sorts...) I've had a bit of pink show today. I don't know if it's to do with all the Crinone- maybe causing some irritation, or if all my 'symptoms' are just from the Crinone and Oestrogen pills I'm on.
Meanwhile I'm feeling really edgy & shakey- like a kind of fear-driven adrenalin rush. I think I'm going to cave in and get a POAS. Though again, I don't know if the progesterone & oestrogen will affect the result. Anyone know??? Baah humbug.

Hi I am ok very anxious though. I did another CBD this morning and got pregnant 2-3 whereas on Monday I got 1-2. So hcg has increased. No symptoms though. The constant brown does get me down but I think it must be from the pessaries irriating my cervix. I got to 13 weeks earlier in the year before we found the baby had t21 and was very poorly. I had brown discharge a lot then as well and a mc was not imminent.
I think being convinced it hasn't worked is normal whether it has worked or not.

Pink I've had some pinky brown spotting the last 3 days, ranging from a tiny spot to about the size of 50p worth. It could be so many things - I've read that as long as it isn't red you shouldn't worry, but that is easier said than done! How long before your OTD? DH won't let me POAS until a day before if that. I have a sinking feeling that AF will arrive before then, but I suppose at least it would be an answer either way. This whole process isn't a kind one is it?

Blacktreacle, I don't think for us IVF/ICSI ladies that pregnancy will ever be anything except stressful, even when you do get a BFP. I'm sure it's totally normal when you have gone through so much to get there.

I foolishly POAS and got a N. Trying to convince myself that it was because i did it midday, not first thing, and HCG levels too diluted. Not supposed to do it til Tuesday, but I've did it on this day last time and it was positive.

Afternoon all. Hope everyone isn't too down and sad. Pink, sorry sorry to hear your news, but it's maybe too early? Really hope you're ok...

Self indulgent scan news: everything looked great until they moved across to look at the other ovary and found a lovely big cyst almost the same size as the ovary itself. Same old, same old... so I can't start stimming until at least next week now when they hope that it may have grimly drained itself of all the blood and we can try again. Sigh. Not sure what's going to happen if it's still there, however, but will make that cheery decision next week. On the plus side, the delay now means I can better recover from the root canal that I'm having done at great expense on Monday now, so every cloud! The other good bit of news I came away with was when I asked my surgeon about my AMH level that the nurse beforehand had been a bit despondant about, he was in fact very positive about it and said that his mother would have had that result too at my ancient age of 34 and that he in theory could get me preggers (iyswim!) with that level. So that was good!

Do hope everyone can stay positive over the next few days and manages to look after themselves.

Hugs to all, x