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When's the best time to get pregnant? Use our interactive ovulation calculator to work out when you're most fertile and most likely to conceive.

No more Pill!! This is it!! Starting a JULY-AUG 2012 bus...

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PipIsOutNow · 11/10/2011 16:08

Hey guys!! Have taken the big step of coming of the Pill to TTC another DC. This will be DC number 2 - already have DS who is 15 months old and a DSD who is 7 years. We have spoken about another baby for a while now but it has now become more of a reality now that we have decided to stop using any contraception!! I am so so excited but know all too well about this horrible waiting game of patience which seems to get worse even after a BFP as then it's the painful wait for a 12 week scan!! (although this time I may pay for a private scan) I have had a MC before DS was born so am also aware of not getting to ahead of myself...but I'm so excited nonetheless!! I bought my friend a little present for her brand new (with tags on) baby girl and was so so broody. Cant wait for my turn now!!

Sorry for the long warbling post. This is such a hard time, the pre TTC, the waiting for BFP or BFN etc etc...I am the most impatient person in the world as it is...and to not to be able to tell anyone in RL makes it even harder!!

Hope there will be some ladies in the same boat as me!! Look forward to meeting u and sharing journeys!!

Lots of love, Pip xx

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Sarah5656 · 29/10/2011 22:09

Ooo names. For a girl we have Poppy Isabelle and for a boy Leo Joseph but these could change! Smile

cherrypiew3 · 29/10/2011 22:13

Clandy I have an AdamGrin

I really like the name Dakota dh is not sure and Linden for a boy.

However none of these names flow with the names of my other dc.

Tequilamockinbat · 29/10/2011 22:15

I'm off to bed ladies, no AF still so will be POAS in the morning.

Please keep your fingers crossed x

kirrinIsland · 29/10/2011 22:20

Fingers crossed tequila sleep well :)

sarah Poppy is lovely

Sarah5656 · 29/10/2011 22:37

Good luck Tequila, keeping my fingers tightly crossed for you Smile

My DH is doing an early morning run to the 24 hr pharmacy to get another test so I can do my first morning wee on it Wink. Am hoping the line might be darker to stop me thinking I imagined it earlier today. Hoping we too have a nice BFP Smile

MinkyMoodles · 29/10/2011 23:54

Evening all,
Just a thought and it may be a bit of the vodka talking, but I'm wondering if I'm doing the right thing, TTC! Does anyone else think like this?
It's always been a no no for me, something I've not been interested in, a bit like marriage. The one thing I promised myself, if I ever had kids I would get married first, but again, that's not on the cards.
I'm now questioning why? Maybe an age thing?
I'm not the maternal type although OH disagrees as I treat the dogs like babies!
MMx

Sarah5656 · 30/10/2011 07:44

BFN Sad

Vinolover · 30/10/2011 07:59

I'm so sorry Sarah. Don't lose faith in it just yet.

Having doubts is perfectly normal Minky. I still have them now but deep down I know it's what I desperately want. Try and imagine how you will feel when you know you've succeeded in getting pregnant. If you are struggling still then you should really take time to think and talk it over. Does your dp not want to get married?

Fishkiss · 30/10/2011 08:17

Sarah Sad Hoping the next time you POAS it's positive hun.

kirrin I thought I should have OV'ed surely by CD17, but it wasn't until CD19 I got a positive, so I O'ed on Day 20! I was taking them morning and afternoon as I was so obsessed that I'd miss it. I had nearly given up and was going to count an 'almost as dark line' as a positive on CD16, I'm glad my crazy half kept on testing or I'd have missed it and wouldn't have gone for that last AI on Friday.

I didn't restrict what I drank but I did keep a minimum of 4 hours between tests. I don't drink a terrible lot of liquids anyway though so if you have super clear wee (TMI?) then I'd say maybe restrict it for a bit. I had better luck with SMU than FMU too, I think because they say that LH actually builds up over the course of the morning rather than HCG on a pregnancy test.

Tequila Fingers crossed!!!!!! I'm super excited for you and shall POAS vicariously through you Grin

I'm not feeling well this morning, just woke up and a bit nauseous. Blah. Wouldn't be from any pregnancy though as would have only fertilized yesterday. Sadness. Just sick and hate being sick! Got a 12-hour shift on Halloween tomorrow, midnight to noon - not looking forward to it, especially if sick!!!

Vino How are you feeling, hun? Any more cramps?

Wanna and Cauldron how are you lovely drunkies this morning? Hangovers all 'round? [hgrin]

MinkyMoodles · 30/10/2011 09:17

Morning all,

Thanks for replying Vino We're a both a bit 'fly by the seat of your pants' unorganised people, so having a child or two would add to the mayhem we live in and I'm not sure that's how you should bring up a child! I had quite a strict upbringing, boarding school, my dad left when I was about 13, so these things all put me off.

DP would like to get married I just think he's too scared as I've never wanted to get married and made it quite clear. I couldn't cope with the whole big White wedding malarchy!

Sarah sorry for the BFN

MM xx

wannabemum24 · 30/10/2011 09:20

Aye up :) Feeling a bit crap this morning :(

Can someone try to explain ovulation to me? I know it's an odd request, but I'd like to know more about OPKs and how they work? Fish, you seem to know these things???

Tequilamockinbat · 30/10/2011 09:20

BFN here too Sad

wannabemum24 · 30/10/2011 09:26

Oh Tequila, sorry to hear that :( Have a snickers!

Sarah5656 · 30/10/2011 09:33

Tequila sorry to hear that Sad
But try and keep positive that AF hasn't arrived. Some people don't have a BFP till quite a few days after AF was meant to arrive.

cherrypiew3 · 30/10/2011 09:33

Morning Everyone

sarah and Tequila sorry you got a BFN

Minky I am always wondering if we are doing the right thing TTC we seem to have so much going on at the moment.

Wannabe I am struggling with the ovulation part of things think that I ovulated yesterday so dtd. Now I am confused about how to work out when the 2ww starts and am I right in thinking that when you are in the 2ww you can not get pg.Confused I am on my first cycle and not using opks i don't know much about them. So I could d with someone explaining the whole thing to me also.

CauldronOfBrownJoy · 30/10/2011 09:33

Morning Minky - intersting points in your last couple of posts.

I totally get the "not being maternal" thing, but I do think its an age thing too. I was completely uninterested in all babies and children, then I amazed myself 3 years ago by doing some work in a primary school and loving it. I'm now a year 2 teacher! I seem to be able to communicate well with the children in school and that's given me more confidence to go on and have my own.

I still don't get babies at all though, tbh. I love my new baby niece, the only bby in our family, but I live in a different country so her being around hasn't given me any more direct hands on experience with babies iyswim. If someone from work brings their baby in, no part of me wants to hold it and I really don't have anything to say to/about it! I see the baby stage as being necessary to get to the interesting stage I think... though of course I'll love my own.

Meeting dp has been a massive part of it too. I couldn't do what fish is doing on my own - I just don't think I would be bothered enough to go through it. No offence at all meant to fish, I think you're amazing for taking the decision and going ahead! But for me, dp is far broodier than I am and I don't think I would have had the confidence to go for it if he wasn't behind me all the way (and in front of me most of the time!)

Regarding weddings - as I got engaged on Thursday that's definitely occupying my mind at the moment! I hate weddings, all that fuss and stress and money and public displays of lurve. Eugh. But we can't elope as DM would kill me. So I think we'll have his immediate family, mine, 2 friends as witnesses... about 15 in total. Registry office then pub, I'll wear a dress, something special but not long and white. Its definitely possible to get married without buying into all that wedding crap (again, no offence to anyone who had this, its just not my "thing"). The only problem I can foresee is preventing DM from going totally overboard... Smile

Wow sorry for the mega post, but what you wrote really got me thinking!! Blush

CauldronOfBrownJoy · 30/10/2011 09:36

sorry about the BFNs tequila and sarah Sad. Try to stay positive.

Tequilamockinbat · 30/10/2011 09:39

I'm trying to stay positive, as still no AF. She should've been here by now Confused

Re weddings, DH and I got married this year but we went abroad to do it. I can't be doing with big white weddings and stuff either so we went for a 2 week holiday with very close family and got married there! There were 14 of us in total, it was perfect, I would definitely recommend it to anyone. Didn't even have to plan anything as the wedding co-ord did it all! We just took dress, suit and rings and they did the rest.

Sarah I'm sorry to see you got a BFN today aswell Sad, we'll just have to try again in a couple of days Smile

wannabemum24 · 30/10/2011 09:45

Sounds like we are in the same boat, Cherry. As far as I know, once you have ovulated that's it and generally, during the 2ww you can't get pg. It is a fairly small window which is why opk's can be so useful. My DH isn't too keen on opk's yet, only because he wants to take things slow and see what happens. I know when I am due to ovulate so I will be jumping on him morning and evening around that time!!!!

CauldronOfBrownJoy · 30/10/2011 09:46

That would be a lovely option too tequila, but DB is disabled and can't travel Sad.

I'm actually having to hold myself back from organising it all straight away. We're not going to do it until next summer sometime, and with it being so small it could be organised in a day! I bloody love planning though Blush

How far ahead do you normally book a registry office?

Vinolover · 30/10/2011 09:48

Sorry for your bfn tequila. It took until I was 6 days late until I got a positive with ds and that was a regular 28 day cycle. With dd, although I didn't get a positive for about 10 days I found out from an early scan (had bleeding) that I hadn't o'ed until about day 25!! Again,I was having 28 day cycles. Did you do any opk? (I can't keep up with the thread lol).

Minky I'm sure you are making the right decision. Remember you're going into the unknown and it's bloody scary!

Vinolover · 30/10/2011 09:51

Good morning fish... Not cramping at the mo but still very bloated and really spotty. That's probably hormonal changes from having the coil out... I keep checking my boobs but they're only sore from me prodding them! Oops

Fishkiss · 30/10/2011 11:26

Dr Fish is in Grin writing a super long post so bear with me..

Fishkiss · 30/10/2011 11:37

Ovulation is ideally supposed to occur midway through a cycle. Don't buy into this crap at all, as it is based on someone ovulating on day 14 of a 28 day cycle, and rarely is anyone exactly on that. That's why OPK's were invented. Even if you have a 28 day cycle there is no guarantee you will ovulate on day 14. Some women might ovulate on day 9, some wouldn't until day 20.

That being said, the period after ovulation until AF comes is fairly consistent from woman to woman. So when your cycle varies, there's still (for example) 13 days between ovulation and AF, just instead of ovulating on day 14, you might O on day 17. OPK's are useful for this, as you might not know your AF decides to be late one month til after the fact, and if you'd counted on O'ing on day 14, you could have missed it. (does this make sense??)

Now - spermies can technically love for up to 5 days, but whereas at the point of ejaculation there are around 250 million sperm, there could be just 400 left after 5 days. So it is the accepted theory to SWI every other day from about a week before expected O until day of. Once the egg is released it lives 12-24 hrs on average, so technically you could get preg if you only have sex the day of/after ovulation, but the sperm must be super awesome. It's usuallly better to SWI at least once in the 2-3 days after.

Until recently the theory of the 'every other day' was that the sperm count has time to build up on the off day. But new research has suggested the amount is negligible so as vino touched on I think one day, there is some evidence that every day is just as good if not better as every other day. More is more, so to speak.

Ahem. I am far from medically trained but I have friends in the medial profession and have read an astoundingly boring amount of material on this ... Does this help anyone?!

I have enjoyed a good waffle anyway Grin

Fishkiss · 30/10/2011 11:41

Oh bollocks forgot to write about how the OPK's work. They detect a surge of a hormone called LH, which is always present in your urine but increases dramatically in the 24-36 hrs before ovulation. So if you test twice daily at the same times then you are pretty much guaranteed to catch it. Please note some women don't have enough LH present to show up on the test even if they do ovulate so if you try it two months in a row without any positives, I'd combine it with something else like temp monitoring, etc.

It's also possible not to get a positive as not all women ovulate every month (bugger right Sad).

Ta-da!