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When's the best time to get pregnant? Use our interactive ovulation calculator to work out when you're most fertile and most likely to conceive.

Brooking No Argument for Positive Pee Sticks, Healthy Pregnancies and Home-made Cakes!!!

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TheLittleFriend · 08/10/2011 12:33

And so it begins again.....

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Biscuitsandtea · 17/10/2011 09:40

Popcorn I had days like that - I think it is totally normal. In fact my very worst month for it was the month we actually got our bfp, because we were about to start the clomid (how is that going by the way Solars?) and I just really felt that we were never going to get there. I was actually worried that I might have depression about it all and that I would need to see the GP because I didn't seem to be able to focus on anything else.

We're all here for you though - have some lovely chocolate brownies - they're yummy even if I do say so myself!

Solars · 17/10/2011 09:53

Hi Biscuits it's going ok I hope, I took the last of the pills for this month a couple of days ago so now it's just SWI, we thought we would target every other day from days 10 to 21. Have not had the slightest of side effects which is good. Really wished we were being monitored in terms of getting scans to see if it's having any effect. Our consultant did say because we don't really have any issues that our chances don't actually improve a great deal than if we weren't on clomid. Hope you're doing ok? xx

shinyblackgrape · 17/10/2011 09:55

Oh Popcorn - it's rubbish having days like that.

I think the not knowing is the worst and can make you feel like that - the unknown unknowns. You just have no control over when this is going to happen and it's not very nice sometimes.

I don't have any other words of wisdom at all therefore..................

Biscuitsandtea · 17/10/2011 10:05

Well good luck with the SWI. Wink

We weren't going to be monitored either. I guess if it just makes the ovaries work a bit harder then if you were already ovulating, you still should. You just might be on the for the second lot of Brooking twins Grin!

Our consultant though reckoned that some studies had shown that even for people without an ovulation problem the chances could be increased. I have to say that I wasn't necessarily convinced by it all but was willing to give it a go. I wonder if Clomid actually helps with some 'other' problem which they haven't quite established yet, but equally which hasn't been diagnosed. I'm not explaining this clearly, sorry. I think when they say 'unexplained' what it really means is 'undiagnosed' There must be a (or some) problem(s) but it is just that they haven't worked out what it is because it isn't covered by the scientific tests.

So I wonder if perhaps Clomid helps with some of these unexplained problems (maybe without the doctors even really knowing what the problems might be?) and that could be why it might increase your chances even though there is no ovulation problem?

Sorry, that's an awful explanation. Blush

I know I felt a bit like it was a stab in the dark for us - like it might help or might do nothing but no-one really knew which - it didn't feel very diagnostic to me? I would have preferred them to say 'This is the problem and therefore Clomid is the solution' rather than 'erm, well Clomid might work? Who knows....'

Anyway, I'm very much hoping that it does do the trick for you Solars. Did you say you were going to monitor ovulation this month? I think aiming for a good range of days is very sensible.

Sorry if that doesn't sound very positive - it isn't meant to be negative about Clomid - heck anything that might improve things is worth a go I think?

Solars · 17/10/2011 10:31

I know exactly what you are saying Biscuits all of it rings true for us too.

I think what clomid does is trick the body to think that oestrogen levels are low so that your body provides more of the hormones for producing egg growth and release (I hope that's right!) so hence you could produce more eggs than you normally do.

I am going to be using opks, however I have read that when you are on clomid you can get false positives due to the increased levels of LH you produce. So I think I won't be relying on them too much and just hoping that with all the SWI we can smack that rat good and proper on the right day. I have used opks in the past and I deduced that I ov'd around day 17/18.

Yes we did feel like it was just a stab in the dark too & were just sent off on our merry way for 3 months. But you are absolutely right that the fact that it might help is definitely worth it!

PopcornMouse · 17/10/2011 10:51

Thanks so much girls I don't know what I'd do without MN and the brooking thread, I don't know anyway irl who's ever "tried" to get pg. Except for one friend who I'm seeing on Thursday who had one kid no problem, but then tried for 10 years to get pg the second time and 4 years the third! She developped some kind of blood disorder or something which made her body reject her pregnancies and she had properly given up ttc, but the month after she finally cleared her attic and sold all her baby stuff found herself up the duff and is now 7 months pg :)

PopcornMouse · 17/10/2011 10:52

Could it be that clomid makes you release more eggs per month which ups your chances of conception?

possiblemaybebaby · 17/10/2011 10:54

Morning Everyone!

Sorry about lack of posting over the weekend, it was our first wedding anniversary yesterday, so a lovely weekend was had by all Grin

Sorry you are feeling down Popcorn TTC is most definitely a bit of an emotional rollercoaster. I had no idea how much it would affect my moods. My poor DH Smile

Haven't had a proper catch up yet, but will go back and do so

Solars · 17/10/2011 11:14

Yes Popcorn that is what the consultant said, even so it still feels like 'well we really can't find any problems but just give this a go for a while...' don't get me wrong I am grateful that at least something is being done and our chances are increased slightly. Hope you're feeling better x

Congratulations on your anniversary Maybe Wine

ScrambledSmegs · 17/10/2011 11:15

Wow, I've missed so much!

Congratulations, Dizzy! Am so Grin for you. Well done you for stepping away from the pee-sticks, you have amazing willpower!

And glad all the birthday kids had a lovely time.

popcorn . I'll leave all the techy stuff to people who know about it. I'll be here for brew of your choice, sympathy, and hazelnut caramel blondies .

shiny well done on the rat-smacking! Sounds like a fun weekend Wink.

Ninja soooooooo upduffed Smile.

Right. Got my positive OPK this morning, although I have to say it's a little late to the party. I got EWCM on Saturday (Ew! TMI! But yay!) and DH turned into RA yesterday morning so we've gone by that instead. Let's see if FF catches up at some point, because I have NO idea if I've been temping correctly. It's one funny looking chart, that's for sure Confused.

PopcornMouse · 17/10/2011 11:24

Lol @ scrambled & RA. Do you have a link for your chart?

I think you (well, 'I') usually get EWCM a good few days pre-ovulation, so that all sounds about right to me? :)

Next door's kids have had their bikes nicked over the weekend - I feel awful for them, especially as my laptop overlooks their garden shed and I didn't see a thing. They're 4 & 6 I think, and they're always on their bikes out the back. Their Dad lost his job last month too, so I think they might be going without for a while :( :( :( It's a cruel, cruel world.

ScrambledSmegs · 17/10/2011 11:35

I'm on my phone so don't know how to link it, sorry Popcorn! I suspect my temp being all over the place is due to being ill though. It's funny, my temp was high last week and has now dropped to a normal temperature, pretty much the reverse of all the other charts.

Aw, your poor neighbours. Feel v Angry when I hear about people stealing from kids. So Sad for them.

possiblemaybebaby · 17/10/2011 11:58

Thanks Solars Smile

Popcorn that is so sad. Some people have no conscience Sad

Good news about your egg Scrambled

I have just oredered my fanjometer. Never thought I would be so excited at the prospect Grin

shinyblackgrape · 17/10/2011 12:04

That is really awful re the bikes. DH had his stolen out of our garden shed recently and was pretty upset so can only imagine what it would be like if you are 4 and 6. Sad.

Oooooh......I keep looking on here and seeing thermometers mentioned. Am wondering if I should go on another shopping spree.....Am horribly unscientific however so not sure I would get the hang of reading the chart. DH could help though - he was very good with the OPKs and working out (and explaining in words of one sylable) why and how they worked re the 24 hour - 36 hour bit.

It soooo reminded me of being back in science lessons in school. Nodding away but thinking WTF?!

scarletfingernail · 17/10/2011 13:03

"CONGRATULATIONS DIZZY ON YOUR BFP!"

Fantastic news

TheLittleFriend · 17/10/2011 13:09

Congratulations Dizzy. Your pregnancy hormone levels are obviously rising like they should if the line is getting darker, so well done!

Happy anniversary to the Maybe's

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CakePigeon · 17/10/2011 13:24

Congrats dizzy Smile

Happy anniversary maybe!

Oh popcorn hope you're not feeling too blue, lovely. We all have days like that. I worry that it'll tip me over the edge as I've suffered from depression in the past but there are good days and bad and I'm sure a little cuddly baby will make it all worth it!

Sorry for lack of immaculate conception far it sounds like they are really testing everything possible so I hope you get your answers soon. It really sounds like you're on the right track

No news from me - boring 2ww as no symptoms to report yet!

ScrambledSmegs · 17/10/2011 13:32

Happy Anniversary maybe!

Glad you're feeling ok far. I guess an immaculate conception was a step too far, even for this thread! India is a lovely name, btw Wink.

DH and I were joking that if we conceived on holiday we could call the baby Devon, but then all we could think about was Midnight Caller Confused. I have no idea why, was there a character in it called Devon? I thought the main guy was called Jack.

Ooh, love the name, DrMunkenstein!

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DrMunkenstein · 17/10/2011 14:13

Exciting news dizzy! Congratulations

Am reading all the clomid info with great interest, as I think that's where we are headed if things don't work out.

Happy anniversary maybe hope you had a great time.

I know the pain of ttc and the ups and downs, and I am sorry some of you are feeling low. I sometimes had to hide from newborns, I hid round the corner in a garden centre once when I saw an old friend with their new baby. I cried a bit too.

Sending lots of positive thoughts to you all.

I think I am on day 18, no green light from the OPKs as yet. Today is the 'day off' day from SWI.

It does get tiring, and very unromantic and I find myself rather tense all evening until it is done iyswim. Which is a shame, as I always enjoy it!

possiblemaybebaby · 17/10/2011 14:21

Thanks everyone!

Munk (may I call you Munk?) I love the new name Grin

It is so tiring isn't it? Even when not SWI, you are worrying you should be, and then when you aren't preggo (which we obviously all are) you start worrying about why you aren't....

DrMunkenstein · 17/10/2011 14:30

Of course you can!

It is exhausting, and yes I agree. When I was pg with DD I worried about why we weren't but also didn't want to as I worried it would cause another mc.

Crazy behaviour!

PopcornMouse · 17/10/2011 15:03

Thanks cake :) I know exactly what you mean. I was on anti-d's til April when we started ttc (tmi? [hblush] ) but it was related to my underactive thyroid... I shall be back to my chipper self tomorrow, I'm sure.

And I'm not sure I've said it, or just think I've said it, so - Congratulations dizzy on your peestick-endorsed pg!! :o

NinjaChipmunk · 17/10/2011 15:11

do i feel sick because
a) I ate a rather sickly giant cookie right before my lunch 2 hours ago
b) I need the loo
c) I am pregnant

do i need the loo because
a) I am pregnant
b) I drink too much tea

DP is away now until late thursday night. Will I
a) drive myself mad with more questions about whether I am pregnant
b) dither about whether to buy some tests or not
c) make ds go to bed early and spend too much time on mumsnet asking the above questions

Happy anniversary to maybe
Glad to hear the line is darker dizzy
popcorn yes I get days like that although less so since being on this thread. I now try to avoid the depressing ttc threads which helps. Hope you feel chipper soon.
Thats horrible about the kids bikes being nicked. Such an awful thing to do to a small kid! Especially if times are a bit hard for them.

DrMunkenstein · 17/10/2011 15:17

When is AF due ninja was it Friday?
Can you hold out a bit?

Fingers crossed!

possiblemaybebaby · 17/10/2011 15:19

Ninja that made me chuckle Grin

Surely if the answer to question 1 is a), then the next question must be: Did I eat that giant cookie because I am pregnant? To which the answer is most definitely yes!

Popcorn I am sure you will be feeling perkier again tomorrow Smile