the rat smacking, no argument brooking, pom pom waving, goody baking, baby visualising, just fertilising, being pregnant and staying pregnant thread of exceptionally good luck

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So here is our new home, hope you all like it!

Hello Everyone!

This is my first time on this thread and you already have a hundred messages! Sorry about that nasty gatecrasher AF babysade but at least it will be your last one for nine months or so :-)

Finally tried preseed and it was not the big deal I feared. Very easy to use and not sticky or weird in any way :)

Dream/ScreamI had an epidural with DS and it was great! Most of my friends have had positive experiences of them too. I did go on to have an emcs after it though so it was perhaps not as helpful in the long run.

I'm actually hoping to have a planned cs this time round. The idea of a vbac does not appeal from what I can gather online most women attempting vbac can expect: monitored throughout, more chance of intervention, 40ish% chance it will end in emcs anyway. I know lots of people feel very strongly about vbac though and there are lots of positives to giving it a go. If I'm not granted a cs I will look into those hypnobirthing cds as I will be terrified.

Off to a children's birthday party now. I've been looking forward to it which is probably a bad sign in terms of my social life :)

I would be excited about the party too Golden and I don't have any DC yet. Now that says a lot about my social life

solars they are the best thing I have ever eaten. Whenever anyone I know goes to the US, they are ordered to bring me some back. You HAVE to try them. You'll thank me for it

baby sorry to hear about AF but everyone else is right, you can start celebrating the beginning of your pregnancy now and enjoy being in the part of your cycle where you can have wine and nice things

solars well done to your DH on his job

Thanks for all the dog based sympathy, he us fine now, silly hound. maybe I would LOVE house rabbits, I think sadly my lab would eat them but I soooo want one! I'm jealous!

Just a quick post from me - out shopping and DH looking at tools!

Cake what is it with men and tools? Mine is a nightmare

Glad the lab is feeling better. The bunnies are very cute, but they act like cantankerous old men! We have had them nearly 2 years now, and one of them still won't let us stroke him!

Mount iron has been conquered, as has day 6 of the 30 day shred. I have the annoying work out music stuck in my head though

lol maybe, I swear, DH's favourite shop is Homebase, followed by B&Q. We have many, many tools I don't think we really need. I persuaded DH out of buying a sledgehammer (such an everyday item, plus we have nothing to take down) recently. Sadly, we ended up with a jetwash instead. And on the sympathy side, absolutely nil. Last time, when I felt even worse than this, he made me continue with various hiking/camping/mountain climbing type activites, ( I was fairly driven to stay fit myself I admit but with persuasion would have had a nice rest). One springs to mind as being a particularly grim experience was being very, very sick up a mountain in a blizzard (it is not pretty) and I cried and all he said was 'oh well, at least you're wearing waterproofs, all the puke you've got on yourself will wipe off if you roll in the snow a bit'. The only thing he was reasonably good at was when I was up in the night, either vomiting or with very bad reflux, and sometimes he'd be lovely, and I'd say thank you in the morning, and he had no memory of it, whatsoever, most of the time!!!!

Now maybe, i don't know how you trained your house rabbits but we failed miserably when we tried when i was a teenager. Said rabbit was lovely, if rather bossy, and chewed through various items, including the phone wire, and weed in various very unsuitable places and then he became a garden rabbit!! Who insisted on having his hutch open but not removed altogether, his run propped up on bricks so he was not confined to it, but not removed altogether (or he just sat and sulked and wouldn't do anything) and waited at the doorstep every morning for wholemeal bread, no, white won't do! He could also eat the flowers off bedding plants faster than my mum could actually plant them. Bad rabbit. My sister is threatening to get the baby a rabbit for her first birthday in a couple of weeks. I'm secretly hoping she does!!

Sadly, a child's birthday party is also the highlight of my social life. I have still not been out in the evening since DD born.... We lack nearby family or a babysitter.

Have a lovely time in S.F solars, I will read about it when I get back to the world of t'internet...

Dream I don't suppose we are actually sharing husbands and rabbits are we?

My DH is the same, but also add into the equation anything to do with cars. We had a spare wheel in out bedroom for months. No joke.

The rabbits are trained in that they use their litter tray and haven't eaten the sofas or table. Other than that, to them, anything is fair game. Including numerous phone chargers, expensive earphones, the x box power cable (i was devastated, naturally ) and the windowsills.

They are the same with their hutch. If i close it too, just to get round it, they come and push it open again, even if they don't want to come out. When I clean them out, they attach the dustpan and brush. They only like timothy hay, no other hay will suffice, and they are very partial to corriander and spinach. When we move and get a garden, they will become outdoor rabbits, though they probably won't be very impressed. They don't like change. We rotated their hutch by 90 degrees about a year ago, and it is only nw they are really getting used to it

Oooh I have rabbits too!! I don't know anyone else in RL who has! We've had our lady rabbit for 3.5 years and our gentleman rabbit for 2.5 years - sadly we lost another one in between that. I love them - they have such personality traits and are their own little characters - non-bunny owners just don't believe me when I say it! Ours are in a hutch at night but in a massive run that OH built during the day - it pretty much takes up the entire lawn in our new house!

I'm having a lovely day pottering about in the kitchen. For lunch tomorrow I'm doing trout fishcakes to start (served with homegrown rocket - first time I've ever grown rocket - super exciting!), stuffed slow roasted pork shoulder for main with roasties, homegrown (yay!) runner beans in roasted tomato sauce and roasted carrots (there's a bit of a roasted theme going on with the main, clearly!), and for pud I'm doing raspberry crumble tart (had to, given that it's an official Day 23 of pregnancy craving). The house is such a tip that I really need to drag myself away from my recipe books to have a bit of a tidy up - boo, boring.

Peanut butter M&Ms....yum...

Oh my, oh my, oh my Imps I am actually foaming at the mouth (in a non-rabid style of course). That menu sounds amazing. I am so jealous of your home-growing. I was doing quite well growing things on windowsills (we live in a flat). I had chilies, peppers, rocket, salad leaves, herbs, radishes. Then we got the bunnies. They like green things, so the the indoor garden had to go. To be fair, it had turned into a bit of a jungle, but I love watching things grow

Rabbits definitely have their own little personalities, so many people can't understand why we have them, but they are lovely, if a tad grumpy at times!

I am trying to design a cupcake recipe that will essentially be like a giant peanut butter M&M

Just had some light cramping in my belly so have decided that must be ovulation. Will be smacking that rat later on!

Get smacking jen!

Love hearing about your bunnies maybe and imps I'm jealous. The dog is ok and everything but he isn't a rabbit! I love him really.. Just a little bit less now he has vomited on my lounge rug

solars hope you have an amazing time in SF, I'm trying to persuade DH that we should go to the west coast next

Hi guys,

Oh geez ... just been to a party and a friend of mine is pg after having sex just twice with her new bf (they've been seeing each other for 4 months which is about the same time that ive been ttc although they only started having sex five weeks ago). She is really thrilled and of course I am happy for her but I feel this crushing nausea about it too.

Sorry I know this isn't in the spirit of the thread and I'm still brooking I promise :)

Just had to have an outlet. Spent the last few hours at at party with her going over all the details and how excited she is. She knows I'm ttc.

ope youre all having abteer Saturday night than me.

Oh golden I'm so sorry that sounds truly awful, poor you. These people seriously have no idea. My colleague is the same "oh it was just a happy accident" - she said that and I had to resist the urge to run to the toilets and cry. It's ok, you are pregnant too now of course!

Thanks cake - sorry for my appalling typing near the end by the way. I wonder why it hurts so much? It's not as though their fertility has any bearing on ours.

I was trying to explain to my DH - it took me about nine months to convince him to ttc and for the last five before we started we were using the withdrawal method and every month I'd hope. So it feels like this has been going on for a long time. It's been a year I guess. Still, her being pregnant has no connection really.

Anyway I am staying awake till DH gets in late tonight and we are going to smack that rat!!!!

Just had a quick skim read through so probably missed loads.

Baby sorry to hear about AF. She knows you're brooking no argument though and once she's left this time she will not be returning for ages.

dream I hope you manage to enjoy your holiday at least a little bit

Solars San Francisco is fantastic. I've been to a few places in the States (not bragging) but California is just brilliant. Make sure you do the trip on the boat out to Alcatraz and do the radio guided tour when you get there. It was the highlight of my trip, so interesting. We also hired bikes and biked all the way across the Golden Gate to Sausalito. Incredible. We stopped on the bridge to take in the view across the bay and all our worries just seem to disappear. It truly is wonderful.

My DH is a DIY addict. He will not pay anyone to do anything which he believes he can do himself. The trouble is he's a perfectionist, therefore ends up spending a fortune correcting tiny mistakes that no one else would notice. The other problem with that is that everything takes ages and there's always something that needs starting before the last thing has been finished. Therefore my very old house is an mix of very old versus very modernised and lots of half finished stuff in between. Drives me bonkers.

Golden just read your post. Your friend is very lucky to have got pregnant so quickly. That does not mean that it is not your turn next. You will get your BFP very soon. It's bloody hard hearing news like that. I got very jealous yesterday chatting to one of my pg RL friends on the phone. She's been and bought her pram and cot already and her 12 week scan is not until next week! Even though I've had my BFP I was sooo jealous of her happy naiveity(?) She was giggling away saying it's all going to have to go back if it's twins etc. I was just thinking I'll just be glad to get to my scan and be told my baby's alive never mind anything else. Didn't say that though of course. She doesn't know my news yet.

Do you think "it was just a happy accident" could become a Completely Banned Phrase somehow? I know people have accidents, but it really is very irritating, especially if they're grown up and not over-excited teenagers and really should have a clue about the birds and the bees. In this day and age, it's not like there aren't 24 hour options for getting contraception or emergency contraception either.

Don't be too jealous golden, highly irritating though it is, you ARE now pregnant, and will be following closely behind in a far more prepared way

Rabbits definitely have personalities. Ours was cool. Poor thing died of myxomatosis- he was kept in a secure and enclosed back garden and we assumed wrongly he'd be safe as he could never have contact with wild rabbits. Very sad. I still feel guilty and it was years ago... Love yours only just getting used to their new hutch position maybe

imps, I could so live with you if you can cook like that. I'm very envious. You clearly have deserving in-laws too! We have grown corgettes, various types of beans, potatoes, garlic, onions, salad, aubergines, tomatoes, chillies etc etc in our new garden and greenhouse- first year in, very over excited about it all! However, I need to learn to cook properly. Brown it and bung it in slow cooker I can do. Basic recipe, I can follow. Just.

I have had no symptoms this afternoon and am anxious again. Plus, DH is at a wedding in Leeds, specifically Not for Children so he has gone with 6 male friends while us wives/ gf's stay at home. I have had a text from his friend saying congratulations, so it seems he has slipped and told them i'm pg?! I'm very surprised as he was adamant about waiting til after the scan. Now I'm worried I'll miscarry and have to inform millions of people...

scarlet, anyone who buys their pram and cot that early is a bit bonkers- I really, really can't understand... I went to mothercare with a friend when I was 15 weeks (who has a child and was going for a genuine purpose) and bought some bump bands and nothing else. I felt a total fraud looking at pushchairs and cots- and didn't know what I wanted. I'm SO glad I waited to buy my pushchair and borrowed someones old one first. I'd have probably been talked into some whopping travel system I'd have hated. I bought my first 'own' pushchair when DD was 9 months!! and its FAB.

Thanks dream and scarlet. Wise words from you both there.

Re the rabbits. I wish I could join in with thr happy experiences but my childhood rabbit was viscious! My DS would love one though and your posts are encouraging me to consider. He would be very grateful :)

Totally think we should ban the phrase "happy accident". I think I take it so hard because every month that goes by and every person I know who falls pg so easily I get more and more convinced I won't ever be able to have children because it should just be that easy. Irrational I know anyway, I am being more positive now and not brooking any argument!

cake that's it exactly! that's why it stings ... well, feels like youre being punched in the stomach to be honest.

But yes, POSITIVE PEOPLE GET POSITIVE PEE STICKS!

Goodness my 3yr old DS is on Reading Eggs (online literacy games for pre-schoolers) and the word 'Rat' keeps coming up and also the sentence 'Can the Rat hit the Bat?'

It's surely a sign! :)

Ah Golden So sorry to hear that. It's hard enough hearing about friends getting pregnant, let alone so quickly and not entirely intentionally. Hope you are bearing up ok But it is your turn now. Just think, you can go through everything together!

You ok dream? You won't miscarry, daydream is brooking no argument, as are all of us on your behalf

Hope you're feeling ok and not too vommy

How're y'all doing? (said in my best cowboy voice)

Howdie Biscuits

Good thanks Biscuits!

I am currentlt sat up in bed MNing as I await my DH's return home from the Mathew's Street Festival. I am tired but I am determined to Smack That Rat. My tummy feels 'funny'. Surely a sign of ovulation :)

Thanks maybe, i'm not normally such a flapper (though I admit to being a worrier) but tonight I am on the verge of tears due to my sudden easing of nausea... I think I feel like it has come 'too easily' as we had only been ttc for 4 months, and I want it too much and it will all end in tears. I text DH to say I was freaking out at my lack of nausea and he hasn't even bothered to reply. I replied to a text from him so I know he'd have checked his phone (at least I think so). He is fed up of me worrying and will not reassure me 'pointlessly' (in his opinion). I have a horrible feeling I will be back on this thread 'properly' and I can't get it out of my head. HOW will I cope without MN on holiday?!

golden, what a great idea. Maybe I should join you (in my own bed of course) but try and go to sleep and hope dh doesn't return drunk and loud and annoying!!!!

Also, good skills maybe to catch anything in your lasso