Just MC and ready to try again? Pack your leathers, black nail polish, air guitar and jump in the mosh pit for some serious metalling. All welcome! (Part 17)

[MarathonMama]

Hello! Just miscarried and ready to start again, come and join us...

Ooh Fimo...haven't had a go with that for years!! Seem to remember we made the spaceships out of the film 'batteries not included' not sure where they are now though...Mum probably has them stashed somewhere!! That sounds like a fun thing to do baby though quite a responsibility to get the details right for a wedding! Glad you've been able to get a bit of progress with your DH...think it's probably a bit of a man thing to want to make sure everything's in order first...though do you think he'd be open to a bit of non-pressured TTC where you aren't careful not to conceive but aren't trying really hard? except that you can still make sure you DTD at the right time and just keep quiet that you know it's the right time IYSWIM...sorry, shoudlnt' be encouraging any form of deception

Yay for NY blue - I just love that city, been three times now and harbour unrealistic fantasies of owning a massive apartment that overlooks central park some day So long as the wedding doesn't clash with thanksgiving it should be pretty reasonable to go/get a hotel.

baby I now want a tiiiiiny rendering of myself that has been in the oven! Is that your full time calling, or a little something on the side, as it were?

As for me, af is being a true witch (I just had a little laugh to myself thinking 'yeah, a BUTCH one!' ), flooding and pain. Hurrumph. And, I'm beginning to think I need to speak to my gp about my, uh, state of mind. I'm spending too much of my time either in a rage or crying. Last night I was reading a little about post traumatic stress and I seem to be fitting most of it right now. At the very least I think I need some counselling, but on the other hand I don't want to admit, formally, that I'm falling apart so badly and need help. So half of my mind is telling me I'm fine and just need some rest/some time on MY OWN (I very rarely get any time away from DS2 and he's still very full on breastfeeding at 17 months - he won't take a sippy, just tips it up and shakes the drink out ).

But, I'm taking B-100 complex and agnus castus this month in the hope that at least physically I can get back on a more even keel. As I said to DP my body still being so messed up is just a horrible reminder of WHY it's messed up. I would have been 35 weeks today and the approaching due date is constantly in my mind, too.

Ugh, sorry to be such a downer.

Hi ladies,

Haven't really caught up properly, sorry . Not been in much and my phone is useless for trying to post on MN.

Blue sorry to read about your unwanted mail and about your waning PMA. I think we'd need to be machines to keep up the PMA 100% of the time. But, when one of us goes down, another will always come up and PMA on our behalf until we're back in the zone. I like that about this thread

AF was heavy for 2 days, after 3/4 days very light spotting, then seemed to pretty much just stop. Nothing since. So not been much call for heavy metal on my part recently, been listening to a wee bit of Diana Ross and Gladys Knight in the car recently. It's the 'Golden Ladies of Soul' calm before the 'metal til your head falls off 2ww' storm

I need cake.

manda so sorry to hear about AF's rudeness and effects on hormones, emotions and general well-being! I think one of the super tough things about MC is that it never really goes away or fades fully in the memory and at the moment there are still so many reminders for you...body still not recovered and approaching due date being two of the list! Have you anyone you can chat to in RL other than DP? I burst into tears on a friend yesterday but just talking out loud about everything buzzing in my head and getting me down did really help...typing on here is great but sometimes an actual person listening and giving you a hug is more what's needed IYSWIM though I hasten to add we're all here for you and offer large quantities of virtual hugs and of course the specially designed padded full metal room!!

missg glad to hear AF made a more reasonable 'chilled' visit for you! Hope your weekend was ok given the time of year.

Now about to tidy up the mess I made finishing my assignments off last night - the dining room table and floor all around it is covered in papers!! Might also have another look at flights, hotel etc for potential NY trip...if only DH could liaise with the groom-to-be to find out where exactly the wedding is going to be then I'd have a bit better idea where to start...kinda think New York City is quite large and don't want to end up the other side of town!!

Never done a kilt one, so it wasn't me! I am now doing it full time. I was previously a freelance journalist and work levels fluctuated, and I got into doing the Fimo more and more and love it. The hardest thing is getting the info out of people first, I have had descriptions such as 'its an ivory dress, and am wearing gold sparkly shoes' before and they appear shocked when I have to call them and ask A LOT more questions! I do a lot of them for anniversaries now too, they are great fun and also a good idea (there aren't a millions ideas out there for couples who've been together 40+ years.)
Will shut up now as sound like I am advertising (I'm not!)

I have not had AF yet, and can't say I am looking forward to it either after reading everyone else's experiences. How long did it take everyone after they MC'd? I have been three weeks now, so guess I still have a while to wait.

To answer your question BlueCrane, yes DH would be open to some non TTCing activity but we don't currently use anything contraception wise anyway he, er, pulls out (I would never talk like this in RL!) so I can't lure him into anything unawares.

Jusst want to add, am trying to lay off the wine this week as I seemed to be getting a bit too enthusiastic of late. My excuse was that I was making up for lost time, but that was only to myself. The truth is that really I just like drinking wine, but can get through far too much of it. Oooops!

Evening all

Summer thank you for that I will give it a try. I really should be more pleased for her. And I am they have been trying for 5 years and have had 3 lots of IVF. It is just that she is due 2 days before I would of been.

Blue - New york!!!! wow. Haven't been for years. I did summer camp in 1994 ( I am that old) and we were an hour out of NY and went every weekend. Loved it. Well done on getting your work all done.

Baby - figures sounds lovely although not sure my sausage fingers would be up to it. To answer your question I had 12 week scan at begining of june ERPC 31st June my period arrived 1st August. HTH. I guess we are all different though.

Manda sorry to hear you are finding things so difficult. I think you would benefit from talking to someone. I am sure the right support is out there for you. It is not good to bottle things up and with the due date looming it must be so hard. I hope and pray i have bfp before that day, but will have to face up to reality at some point.

Day 1 of the week done and out of the way 3 to go. Hope everyone else is ok.

Eve that does help, thanks. I have no idea what will happen with me but I am wondering if it'll take a while to get to normal anyway. I am usually very regular, light and lasts about 3 days max. Hopefully that will continue!

Hello to all

Just tried to catch up (work has been a bugger so I've had no time until now). You have all been busy.

Summer - I'm so sorry, especially that your mum doesn't "get it".

Hi and welcome to shorty, boobeez and iamamummy*. Nice to make your acquaintance.

Late - I know what you mean about the first time being emotional. I felt very weird about it all, as it was becoming a big 'thing' in my head.

Now ladies, I have various stories for you. The first is that my uncle was buried today. Unfortunately, at the funeral I kept thinking about my baby (and that s/he would never get a funeral, etc) and fell apart somewhat. Fortunately, it was at a funeral so could be passed off as completely normal behaviour.

At the wake, I did get to hold my baby cousin (9 weeks) who was delightful. My dad was dropping hints (with all the subtlety of someone throwing anvils off a cliff) that he'd like to be a grandad. There were amusing moments though - some of my cousins hadn't seen me for a few years and were clearly trying to work out if she was mine or not.

Now for my best story. DH and I are once again in a SWI period (started on Friday, planning to continue to next Sunday). Our bed has a wood and metial frame and has been quite creaky for a while. So as not to wake the neighbours [conscientious emoticon], DH had carefully tightened all the screws the day before. We were rather energetically pursuing our goal on Sunday morning, and the creaking began again, getting louder and louder. Just as DH ahem reached maximum enjoyment (not sure how else to put that in polite company ) there was a great clanging sound and the bedhead and the foot of the bed separated from that part of the frame that holds up the mattress. Sadly, those parts also have the legs, leaving us, on the mattress, suspended for a second before the whole thing plummeted downwards. It wasn't so much post-coital afterglow as uncontrollable laughter...

We're now having to sleep on the floor until next weekend (when we'll have time to charge the drill, but bolts and do repairs). At least the floorboards don't squeak.

Hi Peeps,

Hope everybody is doing okay! Well, I had my first acupuncture session tonight. I was quite nervous beforehand as I knew I would probably start crying. So, I talked about what had happened (with a few tears) and he was great. He said that yes, i?m old to be having children (39 on Sunday ?eek!) but he has helped women older than me.

I explained I was concerned that after the m/c my body was all out of whack and I felt that my period was starting too early. He looked at the top and bottom of my tongue and pronounced me healthy but that I was very tense (he held my wrists for a while). He said that he treats many women for similar problems and four of them had conceived twins in the past 8 months! Anyway, i?ve apparently got a ?cold womb? and ?cold feet?which means my circulation isn?t great so the blood flow around my body and through my uterus etc isn?t good enough? So with needles in my belly and down my legs and ankles (those ones did sting a bit when they went in) he put a warm lamp over my tummy and left me to ?relax?for 20 mins. It was very relaxing!!!

I?ve to go back in 10 days and he said to wear thin socks in bed because my feet are so cold and it will help with circulation. I?m not sure if it?s all going to work or not but, it was nice talking to somebody that genuinely wants to help (ok,well he?s being paid so guess that helps!) but I did feel better afterwards. I guess only time will tell and i?m not expecting to fall miraculously pregnant straight away (although would be nice!). He said he can help me through pregnancy (if I do get a bfp) too to prevent any miscarriage from occurring that could be prevented (IYSWIM ie/ not if it?s a dodgy egg or anything).

Oh, and he gave me some Chinese herbs that would ?help? but i?m unsure about taking those till i?v done a bit of research. My tummy is still nice and warm now though over 3hrs after the session.

Waffle over!! I?m still in the pre-ov phase this month so no full on metalling for me yet,more some flashback 80s tunes from Absolute Radio :)

shimmery that is hilarious about breaking the bed! Fingers crossed that was the deed that did the trick!! So sorry to hear you fell apart at your Uncle?s funeral,I can imagine what it must be like at least, as you say you could have a cry without raising suspicion,big hugs xx

eve fingers crossed AF goes back to normal. Mine have been different in that i?vehad spotting for 4 days beforehand which i didn?t use to have (just the one day usually) but otherwise have been similar in length and heaviness. Your fimo figures sound amazing :) I know the ones my friends had done were an uncanny resemblance!

manda did you get the list from the other thread? I would deffo make an appt with your GP ?do you have a sympathetic one at your practice? We have a confidential thing at work called ?lifeventure? where you can phone and talk to a counsellor. Do you have anything like that at all? I think it would help. Even talking to the acupuncturist tonight helped me in a little way (he said that everybody he knows with 2 or more children has had a miscarriage ? not sure why but it gave me some hope). What dose of AC are you taking? There were some other threads about coping with due dates on the miscarriage board that I had a look at recently ? might be worth a squizz

eve you are deffo getting the SWI in this month,fingers crossed one of those gazillion spermies has done the trick!

blue NY sounds amazing!!! I would love to go ? it?s my destination of choice for my 40th (next year ? gah)

We had a baking fundraiser at work today ? there was an obscene amount of home made baking and I scoffed some tablet, tiffin AND a marshmallow cup cake. Yes,I did feel sick! There is lots left for tomorrow .

missg I will save a cupcake and some chocolate and ginger slice for you :)

Hi to summer, IQ,marathon cuttle and everybody else i?ve missed!

baby I had commented that your fimo sounds awesome! The ones my friends had done bore an uncanny resemblance (I had written my post in word then cut and pasted it across but think your bit must have gone awol!)

DARN computer, sorry eve the bit about fimo figures was meant for baby !Darn PC!

So much catching up to do as my ipad died over the weekend and I couldn't get on properly!!!

Blue - sorry your surrounded by bumps....but it will be your turn soon (PMA hat on)!! Glad you and dh had a good chat though...that always seems to help and assignment complete...YAY!!! Next scan is 17th so starting to get that sickly worried feeling all over again. NYC....yes please...that will be fab if you can convince dh on your need to shop!

Manda - sorry af got you....bloody crap! Your not falling apart and going to counselling isn't admitting defeat - you need help to talk through everything that has happened and in many ways professional and neutral help can give you the space to get these things out!

Summer - loved your "stop foraging in your fanjo" comment....made me giggle loads!!! Sunday morning pj's at 10am - I like your style!

Pie - acupuncture sounds fab - keeping everything crossed that it helps you along! That hair removal link cracked me up....told DH about it and he said "really its a wonder you lot get any work done"....obviously I indignantly defended us all but didn't want to admit that we seem to update loads in work hours but not so much over the weekend!!!

boobeez - sorry you got a bfn.....maybe next month will be your month - fully agree with the other ladies on internet cheapies - pre bfp I always had a good stock.

Eve - glad your working week has started off well and that you get your swi in on your hoped for days!! Wow you do keep busy, my social calender is mostly empty until november.

Baby - that is totally a man thing thinking that it will all magically fall into place....bless them!!! Your wedding figures sound awesome - do you do lots all year round or do you just get busy around wedding season?

MissG - glad to see af has taken her leave without too much fuss - I'm liking your calm before the storm music.....its good your preparing for the 2ww in style.

Shimmery - sorry about the funeral but glad that you could have a good cry....it feels much better afterwards I think. Squeaky and then broken bed....brilliant - that has cheered me up considerably!!

marathon and cuttlefish where have you run off to??

Life in IQ land is quite tense - since telling the in laws I feel like I've died and the only acceptable topic is mini IQ.....my sister is referring to it as "vessel syndrome" - you have to love this girl for getting to the heart of things. I can't fit into 90% of my work wear and so will have to bite the bullet and get maternity trousers for work....all seems too early but I almost puked yesterday where they were so tight! Additionally have had very little sleep worrying over the looting and burning in london as most of my family and friends are in the affected areas. Woke up at 5:30 and now have a tummy ache (think this is worry related).....but all this going on has stopped me metalling about mini IQ!!!!

Morning all...so tired this morning as we had friends have to escape their flat in Ealing and come to stay with us around midnight so have been up half the night! Just can't believe the scenes we're seeing across London and the UK...just unbelievable! Thankfully no trouble where we are but there were sirens racing down the main road at 2am...really hoping we don't have a rerun tonight!!

Hope everyone else is ok?

Will do a proper catch up later on when I'm at work when I've woken up a bit more!

Blue it's been awful watching it unfold on the TV, I can't imagine what it must be like for those in the areas affected. My friend was pretty scared trying to get to work for nightshift last night, but thankfully the violence hadn't reached her area (although was pretty close). Hope all our thread buddies in London (and their friends/family) are ok.
IQ have you heard from all of yours? Are they all ok?

Pie that's really interesting about circulation. My toes are bad for getting really cold and numb (and go a bit white). I don't think it's Raynauds or anything, just bad circulation. And, once they go that way, it takes ages for them to get the feeling back into them. I therefore own lots of fluffy, cosy socks!

baby I also love but am currently on a self-imposed ban during the week (But.. allow a sneaky one on Wednesday as Wednesday is usually fake tan night, and I like a glass whilst doing that. If I can be arsed of course, otherwise it's just 'sit in front of the TV with wine' night) Try to have at least Sun, Mon Tues and Thur off. Doesn't always work out that way but my intentions are good. And I am always am usually try to be better towards the end of the 2ww.

And shimmery that must've been some SWI session if you managed to break a bed that had just been tightened??!! Go girl!

Manda your post struck a cord with me. I had to e-mail my boss yesterday to tell him how out of sorts I have been feeling lately. More to do with my Mum's death/anniversary/guilt etc, but I suspect we're probably both feeling much the same way. I think you should try it counselling. Admitting you're struggling does not make you weak, it is a brave thing to do. Sometimes just talking to someone non-judgemental, who allows you to say everything you need to say in your own time, and who can then help you arrange your thoughts and issues and work through them logically (which I think, when you're struggling - and busy! - is very difficult to do on your own) will be a good thing. Sending some PMA your way, along with a bit of my Dad's birthday cake (he's 70 today) and a

Hi everyone else, birthday cake all round

No internet for most of the day at work and I've now come home early as there's rumours it's all going to kick off around our area tonight...such a mess! Keep hearing sirens whizzing around and the odd helicopter none of which sound very far away!! Taking my mind off TTC at the mo but not sure we'll manage any SWI tonight now which is a pain as it's our only time this week!

Would love to check up on you all individually but feeling a bit brain wiped what with lack of sleep and concerns about what's going on so can manage a big for the moment and hoping you are all safe and well and not caught up in anything.

Ditto blue with hoping everyone and their friends/family are all safe. I live in the leafy suburbs on the border of SW London and Surrey, yet several towns 4 miles away are virtually evacuated and bracing for 'trouble'.

I needed to walk into the nearest high street for waitrose... but I'm hesitating. Rioters aren't interested in Waitose, are they? I'm bein faceitous, of course, because now it seems there isn't really any rhyme or reason to them

Hey girlies! Sat here waiting for af.. Last metalling sesh was sunday and have sort of given up now for this month. Hope you're feeling a bit better manda counselling is a good idea I think and will help you work through your feelings. I should probably go and chat to someone too, but am just hoping to fall pregnant soon because I think that having a healthy pregnancy is the healing that I need... Anyway, be kind to yourself and get DP to make you some tea and buy you chocolate.
blue you are so Jammy going to NY!! Maybe you'll this will be your month and you can name baby 'Bronx'! Hi IQ thanks for message. Have you found some nice maternity wear? Hello to shimmer v funny story!! You go girl! Xx

Morning all,

Things seem to have improved quite a bit from last night and so I'm hoping that this will all be done and dusted by next week. Managed to actually get some sleep last night so hoping that my brain is a lot more responsive today than it has been over the past few days.

missg All my lot in London are safe (thankfully) and just staying home now for a few days until it all settles (hopefully)!!!

boobeez not managed to get anything so far but am hoping to get to the shops this weekend.

Manda hope your all safe where you are and didn't see too much trouble around you last night.

blue have you managed to have a more rested night? Hopefully you have and that things at your are good with your friends.

right better finish my ginger and lemon tea and get my self up and ready - meeting today so must find appropriate clothing - which fits - a challenge me thinks!!!!

Sending hugs, kisses and best wishes to you all - take care everyone!!! Xxx

Afternoon all.

Hope everyone is well. Can't believe the trouble that is happening up and down the country. What is the world coming to. So very sad.

Shimmery - that poor bed what did you do to it :-) Very funny. Imagine if this is your month and you fondle remember t DTD that did it would be the bed falling apart on.

Pie - good to hear the acupuncture went well. Fingers crossed it does the trick.

Blue - hope all is well with you and your friends. My sister lives in Ealing, but has gone on holiday this week so is safe.

Miss G - birthday cake - does that mean it is your birthday???

Well nothing to report here, working tomorrow on the Isle of Wight then ten days off I can't wait. Then I will have the count down to when I am due. Boob poking and fanny checking will commence. Hope everyone has a great weekend to look forward to

Evening all...all quiet here last night thankfully and my friends are back in their flat after lending a hand with the clean up operation on their street yesterday.

Finally think there might be some CM making an appearnace...not yet to EWCM status but that's not a bad thing as there won't be any SWI action until the weekend! CD18 today though so looks as though I might be looking at a CD25 ovulation again which means my cycle could be back in the late 30's!! Oh joy...still aaaages to wait before I can POAS!!

IQ glad you and friends/family are all ok! Hope you managed to find something to wear for your meeting...I've actually got a bag of mat clothes stashed in the loft which I'd already bought before I got the MC news so am looking forward to when i can get them down again!

eve hope all well on the IoW tomorrow and enjoy your time off!! We're off to IoW for a few days in September for our anniversary.

missg hope your Dad enjoyed his birthday cake!

manda how are you doing? Hope all quiet with you last night too!

shimmery that's quite some SWI action - I giggled so much i had to read the bed incident out to DH who thought it was hilarious!!

pie glad to hear the acupuncture went well...interesting what you said about your feet - another one with super cold feet here!! Strangely enough I am often cold...except when I was pregnant and turned into a hot water bottle!

boobeez hope the waiting isn't driving you too crazy! I had to wait 6.5 weeks after ERPC before I got AF I'm afraid (though took me 4.5 weeks to get a bfn!)

Waves to marathon, cuttle, whatso, baby, summer and anyone I've missed...off to help a friend strip the wallpaper off in her hallway (though actually fancy vegging out on the sofa as am still tired from lack of sleep earlier in the week!)

Morning...helloooo...annnyoone out theerree?? Goodness it's quiet on here this week! Hope everyone's ok?

Nothing much to report here...plodding along, hoping the EWCM/Ovulation holds off til the weekend when we can get some SWI in and then start the dreaded 2ww!

Hi blue not sure where the heck everyone else is........i keep logging on sporadically and there are no new messages - by this part of the week we normally have at least 2 new pages!!!!

Getting worried that your all out:
a)looting
b)rioting
c)SWI to the extent that you cant leave your beds
d)hiding your metalling.......unacceptable when i currently feel so insane
e)have run off and started another thread and left me and blue all alone

If you are doing a) or b) shame on you - if its c) i will let it go this time, if its d) or e) then i shall really start crying!!!!!

So far have nearly lost my temper twice - neither thing was that bad but I just felt my blood rising and wanted to leap over my desk and smack this person in the chops.......had to ring DH who told me "hormones or not you dont mess with a pg lady"......god i love him!!!!

i'm here i'm here

sorry i have been awol again, have been mega busy at work and-looting-kurt-geiger-in-manchester

am gonna read through and do a full catch up in a bit!