Freak Out Room For Those Newly Updiffed After M/C Part VIII

[dooscooby]

Just found out you are pregnant after a previous miscarriage and too nervous to move over the to pregnancy boards? Freaking out about spotting, cramping, symptoms (or lack there of) and nervously awaiting your first scan? Here is a lovely place for lot's of support, hand holding and problem sharing.

Courtesy of owlbooty here are the Ten Commandments of the Freak Out Room.

1. Thou shalt check thy knickers to the point of insanity until the baby actually arrives.
2. Thou shalt also check the loo roll post-wipeage (sorry, gross, I know)
3. Thou shalt bore thy physician and midwife to tears with the mentalling.
4. And thy husband/boyfriend/family/neighbour's cat.
5. Thou shalt obsess over the absence of symptoms.
6. And the presence of symptoms.
7. And the fluctuation of symptoms.
8. Thou shalt pee on a vast number of sticks and keep ClearBlue and First Response in business.
9. The day before any scan extreme mentalling is permitted without recourse to the Haddock.

10. Self-diagnosis with Dr Google is Forbidden.

The Haddock will be applied liberally to all transgressors.

See here for the previous thread

Just quick post as on phone, had amnio at 9.30 plus bloods taken and anti d jab. Dr was lovely and thinks sample was good. Results back tomorrow late pm if lucky or otherwise Monday am. just resting up now at home.

Hope everyone else is good, will hop on the pc later on and catch up

Freelance - can I ask how you went about getting checked for all the things on your list? I feel I should be doing something, but I know that after only two miscarriages it's thought to be a bit early for testing.

I know I shouldn't really still be hanging around on this thread but your I spotted your list and it looks very helpful! x

Hi again, well after getting all hopeful, Ive just been to the loo and when I wiped there was a bright red streak. Im not thinking this is going to go well. Not gushing or anything, and nothing when I tried again, but it was red and now Im scared and gutted. I dont want to do this thing again.

Hi lily - glad it all went well, rest lots and fx results are speedy so you are not waiting too long.

greengoose you poor thing, such a worry - but some of the ladies here did have bleeding early and all was OK and sorry if this is TMI but could it have been from the back rather than the front ? - we've also had quite a bit of that too.

Not more bleeding yet, but just took my last CBD, and its gone down from 3+ to 2-3, so looks like thats it for me.

I dont know what to do. My last MC was a MMC. Do I just wait it out? Do I go to Docs, or EPU? Do I need scanned, or do I just stay at home and see what happens? I knew my boobs werent sore enough this morning......

Greengoose, I'm sorry to hear you've had some bleeding. As you will know from reading these forums, it doesn't always mean the worst. It might help to wait a few hours and see what happens. If you are worried, phone your EPU and talk to someone there. They will advise you what to do. I didn't have scans with either of my miscarriages, but they were both early at around 6 weeks. The first one I went to my GP to have my hormone levels checked and with the current one I'm really just dealing with it myself, although I have spoken to the midwife at the EPU on the phone. I hope you're coping alright at the moment, I know how frightening these things can be. I'm thinking of you. x

Thanks for that Twittwooo. You know how sometimes you can just tell its not OK, but you still hope anyway? Im at that stage... but not really thinking its OK. (IYSWIM)
How are you coping?

Hi there
greengoose I'd probably try to get a scan/blood test if I was you, just to make sure you know for sure what is going on and to rule out anything unlikely like ectopic etc. Bleeding can still be ok and the cb tests arent always valid (your pee could be diluted by this time in the day) so it might not be what you fear. Im not sure what your epu is like but if you try to get seen in office hours then it might prevent you having to go to a&e later, which in my experience is never a nice experience. Thinking of you x

lily well done on getting through the amnio, I hope you're resting up well and I am sending you the best of luck for getting a positive result x

Waves to everyone else, will try to catch up properly later.

harassed so chuffed about your scan, mine was today thanks for remembering and it went well, so I can join you in the grads now-yikes!

livin congrats on the BFP and good luck for the scan as everyone else has said I've had a lot of discharge since my BFP so assume its normal

stitch you MUST keep me updated on the doppler, I am constantly toying with the idea so would welcome news from you on how successful you are at using it, and how it makes you feel x Not sure what's going on with your hospital appointments, seems the opposite of mine and they are sending you a different appt for each separate thing Re the tights, can you wear 'normal' tights and roll the band under your belly? I've been doing this with leggings

lily glad the doc was lovely and that the results will be with you quickly x

LAF I'm afraid I don't know anything about TEG but have had a quick google, hope you are doing ok today x

harrassed thats amazing news, congratulations

greengoose sorry you are going through this, I can only echo what twittwooo has said and hope that things work out for you x

crossed posts dooscooby congrats on the scan!

Hi greengoose, really sorry to hear you are having such a stressful time of it. You did say you had some bleeds with your successful pregnancies? There is a possibility of course that it is just that. I don't know what to suggest in terms of what you should do. Unfortunately my experience tells me just to wait it out, which is the worst thing as you want to be trying to do something! But at this early stage it is probably only time that will tell what direction it is going in. Sorry, I know it's awful. I feel your pain too, I have been for two inconclusive scans and feel like I am just waiting for the next one to be just as inconclusive and therefore mean a miscarriage again. I do hope you are not right about 'being past it' as I am 37 with no children! Lets hope it is just the same bleeding you have had before. We are here for you to chat!

Harassed so pleased it is going well for you. It's so nice to see people on the other side of this thing, if you know what I mean.

Stictch I know what you mean about the clothing problem. I am wearing my loosest dresses with no tights at the moment. I think it's rather embarrassing for me as I look pregnant but might not even be successfully staying pregnant. So I am really trying to avoid people at the moment! I definitely look like I have put on weight and I am guessing that as it is the fourth time I have been this pregnant my uterus is bigger than any first timer would be at this stage.

Twoo all of those tests were done on the NHS via my doctor. I have never had a very good doctor before but seem to have found a woman at my practice who is really up for helping me. The only one I couldn't get done on the NHS was NK cells. I know you often have to have had three in a row to be sent for testing but I haven't had three in a row (my first two pregnancies were years ago) but she went ahead with tests anyway. I think, personally, that two miscarriages in a row COULD be more than just bad luck and you really should go ahead and push for some testing. My master list of blood tests would be a great place to start. Hope you are not doing too badly. I have a feeling that come my scan on Wednesday I won't be belonging on this thread anymore either.

Hi, TEG, is thromboelastogram. It has to do with the size and strength of blood clots in your body. It isn't on your list, freelance As your body produces more blood in pg, it can change when you are pg. The blood tests I did were negative when not pg, but positive when I am pg.

I read Lesley Regan's book last night about TEG. From the book, it would seem that TEG is more likely to be an issue with late losses. I've put a call in to speak to the nurse about this. Interestingly enough, I was born 2 months early and I wonder if TEG had any role in this, whether or not it is hereditary.

DH was reassured me by saying that aspirin works immediately. Im aware that people with APA have to start heparin ASAP from pg. I'm not sure if TEG is the same.

Wait and see I guess.

LAF with APA one of the reasons we start heparin asap is not just to prevent miscarriage but also to prevent us getting things like DVT and PE, your DH is right in the aspirin works right away and hopefully getting on it now will be enough for you - what dose are you taking?

lily i'm glad today went ok and you got the sample you needed. Glad the Dr was lovey too. How have you been holding up? Really hoping you get the results tomorrow, i'll be lurking fo news. I have everything possible crossed that all is ok.

greenhouse so sorry you have had some blood. Blood doesn't always mean doom, in fact in my time on this thread i have seen lots of women have brown and red blood and more often than not they have been ok. Having the CBD drop must be worrying, but i really do think they are the devil and are not always reliable. How far are you? If you are less than 6 wks, EPU probably wont scan you, but I had a bit of brown blood and pains at 5 1/2 weeks and went to see the GP and he booked me in for a scan at 6+1. Alternatively you could asked for your hcg levels to be taken? If the CBD is correct then i would say that its unlikley you would have a MMC as your body must be adapting and the levels not raising as they should (but please rememeber what i said about CBD). Good luck, i hope everything works out.

Kat I remember you from on here earlier in the year. Really glad to see you back here. fx this is a sticky one for you.

Has LILI been on recently? Hope your are doing ok lovely?!

Lovely to see so many new faces on here and lots of new BFPs. Hoping that they are all sticky little beans for you all and that we see you on the grads thread soon!

Sorry not to name check to all, there are soo many new people. xx

freelancegirl sorry about insensitive 'past it' comment, most of my friends have managed very successfully to have kids in late 30s or 40s!
Im just on a little bit of a downer right now. You know when the odds are against it being ok and you still hold on to hope somewhere in the back of you even when you think its not there? I just know I will be so gutted if this all goes pear shaped again. I was one of these lucky people who took the ability to have healthy pregnancies for granted with my two boys.... and now that Im having things not work out its hard to think that it still can eventually. I know how lucky I am to have my two boys, and I never take it for granted anymore.

Hope all of you waiting for news have something positive soon. The waiting is yuck.

That's ok goose! I completely understand. We are all to a certain extent on a bit of a downer here. It's such a roller coaster ride isn't it! I am trying to remain detached from this pregnancy but it's hard. Collie is right though, brown blood and even red blood doesn't always seem to mean bad things. I know it is so hard to remain calm though, as we are all analysing every little symptom as well as everything we DON'T feel too. We are all staring intently at the loo roll and our pants at every opportunity, and then you actually have blood to contend with. One of my friends from another thread has been having brown sludge for a couple of weeks and a scan revealed everything is fine. I would caution against a very early scan like Georgie says as two have really not done me any favours, both being as yet empty sacs.

LAF that info about TEG is really interesting, especially as it changes when you are pregnant. And about you being born early too. Could it be hereditary?

I wonder if I can get a test for it somehow! Seems like such a simple way to address it with aspirin I am already on 75mg with Mr S.

Goose sorry you're going through this, but as Collie said so many on the Grads board had bleeding. I had mmc/erpc and then a mc at 6 weeks and was always scanned. I think it's to check that either everything's ok or gone tbh.

Flg hang on in there! There's always a bit of hope lovely, got my fingers x'd for you x I had scans at 6, 8 & 12 weeks and was always convinced something was wrong. It was horrendous!

Well, Ive spent my afternoon with my boys in Lyme Regis on the beach looking for fossils and eating ice cream, and kind of counting my blessings. I might not get to keep this one, but I know how lucky I am.
I am still leaking when I wipe, and its still red. Ive got a tight band around my middle like just at the start of a period, so I still think its on the way out. Ill probably call the EPU in the morning. The weird thing is this has happened at 5+6, the exact same time to the day I started going wrong last time. I dont seem to manage 6weeks very well......

Morning everyone. Hope you are all doing OK this morning.

Back from our camping adventure now (sooooo tired!)

Greengoose Sorry you're having a tough time again. How are you feeling today? Have you called the EPU?

Freelance how are you doing? When is your next scan?

LAF Have you started your aspirin yet? How did they pick this TEG up?

Doo Glad your scan went well :)

Lily hope you get your results back this afternoon - will have fingers crossed for that.

Hello to everyone else

I can't tell if I'm starting to get a bit of morning sickness / nausea or if I am so desperate for it that I'm imagining it. i am also pretty tired after 3 days camping and when I am hungry and tired I often get nausea anyway so could have been that but I did feel a little queasy a couple of times yesterday.

Finally got home at about 10pm last night (had hoped DS would sleep in the car but Noooooooo .

I also managed to hurt my back while away (and I expect you all to be in awe of the sporting way in which I did this) by bending over to dry my foot after a shower . Blooming hurts so am walking like an 80 year old now.

Last night DS enthusiastically said 'Have you noticed your body shape start to change at all yet?' I may have given him a bit of a lecture about not needing any other symptoms that I should be having and am not! To be fair my body shape probably is changing cos I am eating so much crap but that really isn't related to the pregnancy. I think he is just worried too and doesn't know what should be happening and what is happening I suppose our DHs are at the other end of the scale in that we have all these symptoms or not and every time you blink you're wondering about it and he is in a bit of a vacuum of information. Unless I was to call him every time I went to the toilet and checked when I wiped (which he may find a bit tmi!).

Anyway, I did explain that I was worried there is no ms (which is like my mc) but I didn't know whether I should have it yet, whether it was still to come, whether I had felt queasy earlier, whether that might have just been because I was tired or hungry or whether I was just so desperate to be queasy that I had completely imagined it. His response: 'Oh..... wow.....'

Well talk about inefficient hospital services, yesterday was just to do my bloods! So now I also have Monday for booking in and then next friday for my scan. No idea why I couldn't have done the bloods on monday?

Feeling a bit down today as my doggie had to be put to sleep - not unexpected as he was 15 and getting quite frail but still very sad. Spoke to my Pa who he has been living with and he was very upset - as he said he's lost his best mate :( I do hate that I couldn't say goodbye but know it was for the best.

Goose so sorry you're going through this

biscuits glad you had a nice time camping, your dh response sounds quite a bit like mine

shellshock I've put the doppler away for a few more weeks, will let you know if it is good or not and whether it helps the mentalling

Stitch sorry to hear about your dog .

How frustrating to have to keep going back to the hospital. It's like they never seem to consider that you might have a job or something to fit around their half day appointments isn't it. Oh and a job where you're probably trying to not tell them you're pregnant! So is your scan next Friday? How many weeks will that be?

Not been much good at keeping up here recently but wanted to check in to see how Lily was going, so pleased to see that you've had the tests done and that the doc was lovely, I now have everything crossed for you that all is well with the results XXX

And Kat so brilliant to see you back here have everything crossed that this is a sticker for you - are you going to have an early scan?
x

Oops and to everyone else, looking forward to seeing you over in grads

scooby Congratulations on the scan!

freelance That's a brilliant list - Many of the things you have mentioned can be tested by the GP. I have so much regret from my second mc. If I had known and not believed my doctors that it was "bad luck" I could have pushed for tests sooner.

LAF Sorry about your TEG - I am sure it's not too late to start the higher dose aspirin and your husband is right - aspirin does work immediately as it is given to patients suffering from heart attack by the paramedics as they are taken to hospital. I also find your post interesting, because I've been taking Co-Enzyme Q10 (which thins blood aswell) with my aspirin and now wondering whether I may have developed thicker blood during pregnancy? Do you know how long you will take the aspirin? I've been told to stop at 20 weeks, which I am not sure about.

Goose sorry about your bleeding. Hope everything works out for the best.

stitch sorry about your dog. That's so sad :( Hope you're okay.

About the talk of dopplers - I got mine when I was 11 weeks and I could hear the hb more clearly and without searching for it, if I had a really full bladder to point it hurt. I had a few scares when I tried to find it with an empty bladder and never did that again!

Hi everyone! I finally plucked up the courage and deferred from my course for next year. This was something that was stopping me from trying for a baby again so soon after the previous loss, but I've learnt that you can't plan anything in life. I really hope I've made the right decision now and that this baby makes it.