Fantastic 40+ thread - part 4

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Come on ladies - you know who you are .......

I think the upset tummy was a dodgy meal but the injections are turning me into a mad woman. Asked DH if I was impossible to live with, he said no, and paused, I thought 'Challenging' and he said........ "Challenging".

Hugs to any other challenging ladies!

What a G-rrrrrrrr-eeeeat suggestion Hippy! Tony/Tonya it is! How's the lamb? Wish I'd had that instead of the chicken.

Fireflies thank goodness for Tony. You have a lovely frostie waiting for you!
Angel I'm pretty sure I've said the 'bursting for a wee' thing . That said, I'm I bit more clued up about HIV. A Dr friend of mine is researching HIV in Kent, of all places. Apparently affluent middle-aged women have been having it away with the locals on exotic foreign holidays and not bothering to use condoms. Duh. I'm thick - but I'm not THAT thick. Italian your body must feel like a pin cushion. I really hope you get an early result before you end up looking like a colander

Marlow was lovely. Just what I needed, although bed at 3am wasn't clever. Early night tonight.

Glad you had a good weekend LOL . yes, it's scary how many " middle" aged people out there are having loads of sex without a thought to STI s.plenty of middle aged women holidaying in Africa etc... and having condom free sex and settling down with African males over here. Some people just seem to keep going to they hit the jackpot!!!
Another scan tomorrow grh..... 9 th scan this pregnancy , just been adding it up!!! After tomorrow only 1 more to get through!
Love to all xxxx

Oh BB I'm so sorry xx

Can't remember what I've replied to, and what I haven't... am usually balancing the lap top on my knee whilst bf-ing... Am starting to think about wheter to ttc again... not that it's exactly burning, as I suppose I might not be fertile again for ages... and I want to carry on bf-ing..

Italian fingers crossed your treatment goes well, and progresses onto the next stage - am so excited for you. Am gonna start an embie cheer leading team...

Right - I'll have Roast lamb with all the trimmings... and bread and butter pudding for afters

Hippy unfortunately, we all get the Tony reference...

LOL Isn't your fella meant to eating humble pie and reassuring you? Please don't let him get you running after him again, smoothing his brow. His mad ex is really his problem!

Have had a real life friend here this pm, and have been telling her to kick her new bf's arse. He has been asking her for half the petrol money to visit HIS mother - is that uber tight, or am I old fashioned? If he's like that after 6 months, what would he be like to be married to? But LOL , maybe you should just ignore me, as I am a sleep-deprived, grumpy old woman xx

Lou one more scan... yipeee - sending lots of happy thoughts to GILS and Diege-bean x

Morning everyone.
The roast sounds lovely, but Sunday has been and gone for me! However I did buy a nice big chook(chicken) from the growers market on Saturday, so we'll be having a nice roast dinner tonight.

The weather here has been amazing - beautiful clear spring days. So we went for an amazing walk around the coast, Dh,Charlie and I. Charlie was a total champion and walked for a couple of hours. I thought for sure he'd have an afternoon nap, but he didn't! I did though!

The night before DH and I had a heart to heart. It was good - we needed to clear the air. After a long discussion, it is still clear he doesn't want to ttc. However I asked him, if we were to have an "accident" because he isn't doing anything about contraception, would it be best for me to leave(as I know he doesn't want a baby, and I don't want to be called manipulative etc). His reply was that he would never want me to leave, and if a baby was coming he would cope and make the best of it.

So that's a bit of a relief because we did have SWOI a couple of days before I had a temperature rise - so there's a chance I ovulated. I don't really trust the thermometer because I've had a temp rise twice since the miscarriage but it came to nought.

Anyway, I do feel better knowing that he'll stand by me, but after our conversation he might just go out and buy condoms, or worse, have a vasectomy. He does procrastinate, so it is unlikely.

Nice to hear from you TTT. I would consider ttc again if I were you. I say that because I really wish I'd started sooner after my last one, I do wonder if a couple of years has made it difficult, what with the miscarriages. But when I BF I don't ovulate til baby is about two. I'm guessing your fertility returns sooner?

I hope everyone is feeling okay.

Fireflies, I'm hoping and praying your little embie sticks.

Tina, are you still planning to emigrate to Australia?

Shandy, how are you feeling?

Lol, how's everything going? You certainly don't need a crazy ex thrown into the mix!

Hippy, have you seen the doctor yet?I hope you are feeling better.

Same goes for you Italian - I hope the needles aren't too distressing.

Love to all. MY LO is running amok, must go...

Fireflies, have just reread, and realise you didn't do IVF this time. But my sentiments are the same - I hope you do have a sticky embie on board.

I'm beginning to wonder if progesterone( natural, not prescribed -in the tww) gives me symptoms. I have strong metallic taste and nausea today. But that is just simply rediculous for 4 DPO. It's f*(&ing with my head though. I'm really hoping, wishing and praying....

Thanks TTT hope you re ok? Apart from lack of sleep??!! Xx
Hi all xxx

Hi all; scan very good GILS weighing approx 6 lb already!!! We could are her lungs and chest cavity expanding and hair on her head!!! 9 scans down , 1 to go!!! Xxx

Wow Angel that's some scan! You'll be reading her mind at the next one. Isn't technology amazing.
TTT you are the voice of reason and one to be listened to. You are quite right. I will be laid back, disinterested and self-focused. Actually, thinking about it, I actual WAS today and it made a real difference. He texted me a lovely message. He's had a word with the ex and, although we've compromised, it's a compromise I came up with and am happy with. DP will move in 4 days a week at half term and he and dd will join us full time at Christmas. That gives us all time to adjust, I think, rather than everything at once. Hit IKEA big time yesterday to work out storage. It was heaving. I don't know how anyone enjoys the experience, but people obviously were.

Curly - how's the post-op recuperation?

sorry. typo alert!

Thanks Lol glad you ve found a compromise. X

Hi. I was going to go to the docs today to register, but I found I just couldn't bear to start the whole pg-scan thing in motion just in case.
The only problem is I'm self medicating and I was going to check it all today. I've mostly taken it from mn threads, specifically a post mc thread 'what would you do differently next time'
So here goes:-
Aspirin-75mg
Omega 3-8ml
Vitamin C-1000mg
Vitamin D-37.5ug
and a Pregnancycare tablet with
Vit D 5ug
Vit E 10mg
Vit c 60mg
Vit B1 1.4mg
Folic acid 400ug
Pantothenic acid 6mg
and lots of other vitamins and minerals not listed above.

The only thing recommended I'm not on is Selenium because the only one I could find had more Vit D and K in it and of course progesterone as it needs to be prescribed.
I'm only 5.2 weeks but obviously desperate not to mc. And to make matters worse my stress levels are sky high due to having to change Childcare with zero notice and working two jobs due to sick leave.

Sorry about me me me post. Hope I don't lose the typing!

Hi all, all OK with me.

Thinking of you all.

TTT I think it's totally up to you but if I were in your boat I am sure I would try again.

Angelgeorgie hugs.

Gum glad you and your hubby are doing well. He sounds very supportive and kind.

Love the face at the end!

TTT I mean if you want another baby I would try again, you are quite a bit younger than me and obviously well able to conceive so if I were you I would go for it, but it?s obviously up to you. Feel weird giving people advice on this type of thing. Because it really is up to you! Hugs to you.

italian are you trying to say it's up to her?

shandy how do you remember to take all that stuff??? all the best, just keep repeating - for today I'm preggers and you'll soon be as far along as lou and diege.

lou how fab that you saw GILS hair. 6 pound already - brill. Not long now sweetheart.

Had my appointment at the new GP yesterday. What a great start to the day We got VERY well aquanted (sp?) and he thinks I have piles inside my rectum. He wants me to have a flexi camera up there to rule out anything else but he doesn't think it's anything sinister.

I must have apologies about 3 times to him - just kept thinking what a horrible job to do. He seems very nice though. I told him i was on clomid and he had never heard of it . But he was polite enough not to blurt out - "Why the feck is an old bird like you trying to get pregnant?" And for that, i'm grateful .

gum good luck with your happy little accident. The walk sounds lovely.

love to all.

ps. tank you are still young. I think you can squeeze another one in (or out). I hope you are ok. I was thinking about you the other day and thinking that you must find it really hard when it's time for immunisations or illnesses. It's was stressful enough for me with the boys and I hadn't had your experiences. Hoping you are enjoying your darling little girl. X

Hopeful - don't worry - realised what you meant re the embie. Sounds like everything with you and DH is pretty cool. Is it worth you getting some ov tests as a back up to charting? It is easy to confuse early preg symptoms with PMT. When you do IVF you're pumped full of progesterone once the embryos are transferred, and it's impossible not to convince yourself that you're preggers as there is so much of the progesterone swimming around.

Shandy - big congrats!!! Take a look at: www.fertilityfriends.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=226042.400 Once you're past the stuff about cough mix and EPO you'll find stuff on preventing miscarriage. I got Selenium from H&B (as I did most of the other stuff AngelBump lists). In the meantime, take it easy, and slack off as much as possible at work as they're taking the ps. Oh, and Hippy - I had to have a spreadsheet to keep track of what DH and I were taking!

Angel - wow!! She sounds awesome!!

Lol - well done! Like your style with DP. Keep up the good work (ie don't let him take you for granted when he does move in properly!!)

Yeah TTT, I'd be planning your next one if I were you!! I haven't managed DC1 yet and I'm already stressing about popping out DC2 (I think I can kiss goodbye to the 5 I'd dreamt of.) BTW, notice you didn't bring any cakes with you when you popped in last time. You said you'd been baking....

Oh hippy. Have you recovered from your trip to the GP? It's not a nice way to start your relationship with a Doc. One day I'll tell you all about registering with a new Doc, having fanny inspected by nurse when she said 'oh no, I don't like the look of that. Just wait there while I go and get the Doctor for you'. I refused as I wanted to meet her face-to-face rather than fanny first! Oh, I just told you the story... Ooops. Anyway, I hope the camera check-up goes ok. Let us know.

BB - how are you? How about you, Curly?

Am on CD25 which is fairly unusual for me so just wondering... But I've been a grumpy/manic b*h for a few days so I think AF's just a bit later than normal.

Sweet, peaceful dreams everyone. xx

Thanks hippy xx all in a days work for your gp peering up your backside!!! Xxx
Saw my consultant today section on thd diary for 18 th October, consent form completed, dates booked for 2 steroid injections pre- op. All sorted!!! just await our GILS now!!! Xx

Hippy hope your camera thing is OK. Thinking of you.

Fireflies really hope that this works out for you.

All fine with me.

Shandy I can't believe all the stuff you're taking - although I do recognise most of it from the angelbump list. It sounds like you've done everything possible. You're going to have to sweat this one out hour by hour until you get your first scan. It must make the TWW seem like a ride on the bullet train. Thinking of you ((())).

Hippy OUCH! But it's not something ghastly, so hallelujah!!!! Shove the stuff up and watch the pain disappear

Curly cough twice so we know you're still with us...?

Well, not great news here. I got my latest test results back. I didn't bother to have my AMH retested as I'd seen 3 follicles on the screen, so I knew the score. BUT...my FSH has risen from 3.5 last year (I know - it was great!) to 13.5 - ie, higher than the magic number 10 and well into the danger zone. Worse, my oestradiol was 184 (should be less than 75) so my ovaries are beginning to fail. I'm officially in perimenopause. It was a depressing result. So, I went googling and found people from age 26 - 46 who have the same result and are either still trying for a baby or who've had 3 and didn't bat an eyelid at the figures. One great piece of advice was, 'My mum had absolutely no idea about numbers - she just carried on having sex and hey presto, I was born when she was 46'. I had an honest chat with DP and he was supportive. He said I'm competitive and cross with myself because my body appears to be losing. He's got a point. I need to see my body as a winner, regardless of whether or not I become pregnant.

Oh Lol, I understand how those numbers can hurt. But I think the words of wisdom are good. I was talking to a friend yesterday and she said, "as long as you bleed you can breed". I know that is simplistic, but the truth is there is still hope.
My AMH result was so low that I should expect imminent menopause(maybe I am in menopause?)But my doctor laughed at the result, saying,"With these results you shouldn't have got pregnant twice in the last 8 months". And weirdly my other results were fine.

I do think those results can fluctuate can't they? Perhaps if you were tested again next week, the number would be below the magic 10. And I have heard of FSH dropping dramatically after Chinese herbs and acupuncture.

I certainly don't think it is over for you. I am so glad your DP is being supportive.

Hippy, I was for you having to endure that kind of visit with your doctor. However, glad it isn't anything sinister. I'm a bit surprised that he didn't know about clomid.

Shandy that looks like a good list of things to take. I've recently run out of my "preconception" multi vitamins, and now I have to decide what to take. Probably just a regular multi-V. I'm also taking aspirin daily and recently read that you should take your folic acid at a different time to the aspirin as the aspirin will stop the folic acid from being absorbed.

Fireflies - any news?

According to my chart I'm 8 dpo. I've had some lovely temperatures, and I can't help but feel hopeful. I think it may be my very last chance...

Hi all. Thank you fireflies for the link and all the information from Angelbump's list. People are so generous with their time and knowledge to put all that on the web. It's great. I'm now taking the aspirin at separate times and the Pregnacare after food, thank you. Still a few more I need, shame my Selenium has Vit K in it.

lol hang in there, it's hard when you take the scientific approach and get less favourable results. But 3 follicles to see is good isn't it? If only there was a magic formula.

gum good luck to you too. Fx

I'm trying to hang on to the day at a time approach, but more reluctant to share my hopes with the doc and my close friends. What's worrying me is that I have no symptoms and this was around the time the embryo stopped growing in both my previous mmcs although I didn't know until 8 week scan last time and 12 weeks the first time.

Hi hippy hope you're settling in IOW and you're children at school.

Hi curly are you convalescing?

Hi bb, angel, diege, soothe are you still around, Italian and everyone I've missed.

lol can't cough as it hurts so will this do ?
Sorry just quickly but delicately side stepping in to say hello and to let you know that I'm keeping up with your news but am taking things very easy. I'm still sore, swollen and a little uncomfortable, appetite is still on holiday -yay. Hugs, fingers crossed, baby dust and prayers to you all, mwah x x x

Hey Curly! Good to hear you?re on the road to recovery.

Shandy keeping everything crossed for you.

And you too Gum.

Lol - I can understand why you?d be freaked with those results, but I think you?ve already put it into perspective, so get SWi/SWOI and enjoy!!

Am on CD1 again. AF turned up this am. Told you I was feeling a bit manic!! Is a bit later than normal (CD27 rather than 24), and I think lighter so I am hopeful that all the supps are making some kind of difference and that we?ll strike it lucky before the year end (despite the ?diseased? tube!!). Also, have follow up with Lister at end of month and initial consultation with ARGC sometime in Dec/Jan. Pffffft. There is always hope.

Naffed off coz Sat art class I wanted to do has been cancelled so might see about doing an evening art foundation instead and see what I missed out on all those years ago. In the meantime, joined local am-dram group, dahlinks, so you?ll have to let me know if I get too luvvie.

Hugs and fairy dust. xx

1000 my DH was in our local AM dram group ... oMG talk about over the top!! The productions were good but you would have thought they were putting on a West end show the way they went on!!! So, yes I ll be sure to let you know!!!!
Curly glad you re recovering , take your time. Slowly, slowly. Xx
Hi all; hope all are well? Plodding on here: presented an audit at work today so that's another big job done before I finish. Off to folks straight after work for the weekend.big birthdays; my sister is 30 and my dad 65 on Sunday and to catch up with my brother who's just returned from 7 months travelling. It takes us about 2.5 hours to get there which is always a ball ache on a Friday night after a full week at work.
33 weeks tomorrow wow !!! Only got 4 days at work next week then AL for 1 week , then 1 last week at work. So, actually only 9 days left to work!!! How odd??? Only just settled back in again or so it seems!!!
Love to all xxxx