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Fantastic 40+ thread - part 4

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hippychick66 · 15/06/2011 20:13

Come on ladies - you know who you are Grin.......

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dottyaboutstripes · 25/08/2011 16:53

Gum Sad my dh has been like yours. Maybe you remember ttc was on/off last time - well he has said over and over he doesn't want a baby but does nothing to avoid pregnancy. Yesterday he told me he hopes I pregnant and he can't wait for me to be so. Honestly, who knows what goes on in their minds? I'd make him use a condom if I were you. I hope you can work through it all and feel ok. When my dh had the v I couldn't bear for him to touch me, I hate to think of you going through any feelings like that.
Well I said hello a while ago but I can't keep up Blush I think I ovulated ridiculously early, like cd8 or so. I'm on my phone so can't see previous messages and can't remember names Blush but sounds like exciting times ahead for some....fingers crossed

AngelGeorgie · 25/08/2011 18:18

Tina.get yourself some new sexy undies and off you go have a. "banging" weekend!!Wink
Italian fab news wonderful. Hope it all starts soon.
.LOL. yes they are pretty much look the same; some baggies and bigger than others but basically all the same!! Now smell!!! That s a whole different kettle of fish!!!! Literally !!! He he. Enjoy your class x
Or was that 1000 asking that????
Curly hope u re ok?
Hope everyone s ok ? Xxxx

Curlylox · 25/08/2011 19:26

Ooooh angel just had my tea ...yuck

10000fireflies · 25/08/2011 19:31

Ewwww Angel! But we did egg you on a lot to share!! No wonder you prefer cooler weather!! Tina - why don't write it for him and just ask for his signature. Useless .

Must dash. Flouncing off to get a Mirkin or two! Do you think I'll find one in Westfield? Grin

Curlylox · 25/08/2011 22:01

Lol how did you get on today at CREATE???

AngelGeorgie · 25/08/2011 22:08

He he!!! Grin

Curlylox · 25/08/2011 22:13

angel doesn't the smell make you heave now that you're preggars??? As when I was pregnant most smells made me heave, couldn't even do a trip to the petrol station....

shandybass · 25/08/2011 22:59

Congrats Italian I'm so pleased for you. After all your patience and the time, you really deserve a break. Hope it goes well from now on.

So sorry about the point you've reached gum. Have you and your dh discussed it fully. Or is it really end of the road for him and you in your heart. It's so hard I feel for you. When the gp suggested when I asked for help to keep swi but also to give an end date my hopes dropped again thinking this is another nail in the coffin of ttc.

My ttc plans have been beset of late, last month I had a sickness bug around ov time, this month I'm ill again. I feel maybe it's fate as the months clock on. I asked the gp again when I was there was it worth asking for medical help and he was all positive to look at helping until he realised I'd had kids when he lost interest and said in which case they wouldn't bother with medical help. Great.

Hi to everyone else. angel I'm considering a career change, it sounds great even the smells. Maybe I'm weird. lol best of luck with create.

lolfactor · 25/08/2011 23:15

Just lmao at the mirkin/vagazzle/Ann Summers combo. The things we put ourselves through!

Fireflies my heart goes out to you. What a disappointment. You sound very grounded, although you must have your moments. Big hug ((())) I'm going to try and be like you when it's my turn.

Had the appointment today. I've never had a fannycam before, and I have to say it was pretty impressive! I had a guided tour of my cervix, uterus and ovaries. I have 3 lovely little follicles (yes, only 3, but then I AM 45... sorry, did I shout just then?). The very dishy gynae (why are they always dishy? It's so inappropriate) said that everything was peachy perfect and that I just had 45 year-old eggs. And please would DP come in to be checked as it was just as likely to be him. I'm still laughing Grin .

They said I had a higher than average chance because I've had children naturally and everything seems to be working fine. All we've got to decide is whether to speed the process up by allowing them to harvest the egg each month and shove an embie back in. They couldn't say what percentage difference it would make, but they did say that at least 3 or 4 stages where it COULD go wrong would be eliminated (what am I getting wrong? Bonking on the wrong day/in the wrong hole Shock). No, apparently, tired sperm, sleepy eggs etc . So, DP has to go j in the jar and away we go. He wants to try naturally for a couple more months before we go in - and I'm happy with that. I've just said that he has to BE HERE to make it happen.

Curly I'm sending you all the good luck vibes that I found at the end of that dirty great rainbow in our garden the other day. You deserve it. Thinking of you on the 5th.

lolfactor · 25/08/2011 23:19

Hippy it's raining in Hertfordshire - like MONSOON-style. Did you know this was going to happen? You could have told me. We could have built an ark together. Enjoy the sunshine in IOW. I bet it's all blue skies and white sand. Lervely!

AngelGeorgie · 26/08/2011 06:07

Curly I m pretty resistant to all smells you have to be to be a nurse otherwise you 'd never eat!!! And unfortunately that's not a problem I have!!!! The absolutely WORST smell I deal with ( and think my colleagues view it the same) is a retained tamapax. Now, that does smell disgusting ; as someone coined it " like having a dead animal up there" . A lot of peoples personal hygiene also leaves a lot to ve desired oh, and why would someone have sex , then wash , then come and be examined??? Werid!!!
Shandy yes you probably are odd??!! But then so are lots of us that already work in that area!!!! It's not the smells that piss me off it's the fact that some chavs are too thick or ignorant to answer simple questions when taking their history. That gets me!!!!! Angry
Up at stupid o clock again I m so tired but don t sleep properly either too hot, leg cramps, bloody cat meowing etc... At least it's a BH weekend yeh!!!! X

lolfactor · 26/08/2011 08:20

It must be a BHWeekend - it's raining. I'm off 'glamping' today with dd. We've booked a yurt on the edge of Windermere. It's got carpets, a wood-burning stove, a kitchen and lights. When I asked the man why it was free at such short notice, he said the weekend had been unpopular with families due to the 'music festival' taking place in the woodland at the same time. I said, 'great - I have a 15 year-old daughter; she'll love it!' Well, he made me go to their festival website BEFORE he would let me book the yurt. It's billed as 'woodland pyromanticism'. It's folk with a twist for tree-huggers. One of the tracks was just white sound Hmm. The man SAYS it's quite tame; they're very nice vegetarian witches, smelling of goodwill and patchouli. Yes, there'll be a fire - but it won't be my yurt. There'll be vegetarian fast-food, which suggests they won't be sacrificing anything with a pulse. And they'll stop chanting singing by 12pm. Hmm It was nice knowing you...

hippychick66 · 26/08/2011 15:30

Sorry to have been off-line for a while. Just wanted to quickly say to gum - I, like you have spent the last 2 years thinking about having another baby and have also lost 2 pregnancies in that time. i thought that the only positive outcome from all this effort could be a baby but i know now that actually a happy ending may well be letting go of the desire and accepting that what I have already is wonderful. As much as i would still love that last little person to join us, i cannot allow it to take up so much of my thought time anymore. I know that the difference is that my DH is not saying no and i know that is difficult for you. Anyway, i just wanted you to know that I am thinking of you and i understand the pain of letting it all go (still trying to do it myself).

lol the glamping sounds wonderful Grin Only you could embark on this trip my dear. i know you'll love it!!!!

lou I DO NOT want your job [yucky face!!!]

Hi to everyone else.

ps. It does rain here too !

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Italiangreyhound · 26/08/2011 22:29

fireflies sorry about the BFN, it's tough.

lol I'm confused, are you and exdp back and trying via fertility clinc? Am I the last to know.

hopefulgum · 27/08/2011 00:36

Lol, your glamping and Yurt sounds like fun. You ought to pop over to the witches and ask them to do a little spell so you get upduffed ASAP. You could perhaps ask them to put a spell on my DH so he has a change of heart. Ta.

Thanks Hippy. I know you are right, but somehow having the decision made for me (despite it being NO surprise at all) somehow amplifies the fact that there won't be another baby. It is hard enough having biology and aging against me, without having the person I love the most in the world not on side with me. It feels very lonely. I would rather have tried for a bit longer, and if it didn't happen, I would have accepted it. I know I wouldn't have kept trying for ever. I would have preferred to have had a part in the decision.

My doctor phoned me last night and surprise,surprise, there really were some results from the December miscarriage. The results had been sitting at the hospital in my file since the end of January. I'm a bit cross that they were only found because I chased it up and the lab told me they were sent there, then the Doc decided to have a look.

Despite my amazement at all this incompetence, I was grateful to hear, at last, that it was a boy with trisomy 13. In some ways, knowing this feels a relief - I'm glad to know the baby was a boy - it wasn't just an "it". But it's also so sad that this baby never had a chance with trisomy 13, and I should be glad we lost him early, otherwise we would have had to make a horrible decision to terminate.

It also means that it was a random bit of bad luck, not caused by anything I did, or the auto-immune thing I have, though we are still waiting to see what happened last time. I'm sure now it will be some trisomy or other.

I think this news cements my DH's decision. He's terrified that a next time would be a trisomy that kept growing and we'd have to terminate. He doesn't want to take that chance. My view is that we have as good a chance as anyone to get a healthy baby.

hippychick66 · 27/08/2011 10:37

No italian I don't think you are the last to know about lol - I'm a bit confused about all that too. I have been speed reading the thread to keep up and fear I missed things. Last I heard lol and ex-DP were meeting to discuss possibly getting back together and possible IVF treatments. For the sake of italian and hippy who are both confused can you please give us a quick summary lol when you are back from camping??

glad you got your results gum - how awful that they took so long to actually tell you. I get what you mean. It's good to know it was a trisomy (IYSWIM) but I can see what your hubbie means. If it is gonna have a trisomy then the best thing is an early loss - I would be more devastated if i had to decide to terminate at a later date. I hate having f'ing old eggs Sad

I was looking at a bunch of teenage girls yesterday and thinking, I wish i could trade one of their young eggs for one of my crappy ones - they'd never need it - Ho hum, i had my turn i guess and they still have it all ahead of them.

All going good here. DS1 played his first match with the local youth footy team and I made 2 news friends (mums standing wacthing). DS2 played with opther kids. Even my DH came and talked to people !!!!Shock

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hippychick66 · 28/08/2011 17:56

8 days post ovulation (as best as i can guess) and boobs are at it again. tingle tingle, dolly parton!!!! They are buggers to me Grin

Just thought it had been a long time since i did a BiscuitBiscuit watch.

love to all.
X

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AngelGeorgie · 28/08/2011 19:43

Oh Hippy here you go again!!!! Grin
Hi all hope everyone's having a good weekend. Lovely to be off work chilling. Enjoy yourselves xxx

Diege · 28/08/2011 20:07

Hello! Back from hols which were great, but very tiring! Have had a quicvk skim through, and so sorry to fireflies that the cycle wasn't successful Sad. Also sounds like things are very tough at the moment for you Gum Sad. Good that you got some constructive results back, but I can see can your dh might well take them as 'proof' of his argument. I still think you have just had a lot of very bad luck (without meaning to sound flippant). Trisomy 13 (Patous?) is the rarest of the 3 'main' trisomies and is very unlikely to occur again. I totally get where you're at and (myself) would be secretly hoping dh might change his mind at some point (esp with time) but realise too that that might not be the healthiest way to approach things!
curly think positive about the op! It's something constructive that you are doing after all xx
Hippy sounds like things are taking off in IOW, esp if dh is mixing with the locals Wink - he sounds like my dh! I'm not going to say anything about the boobs Grin. Is this one a clomid-free cycle?
Angel wow not too long at all before your section date! I think I will be a week or so behind you with my VBAC (if that's what I have) as only got to 38 wks with ds and have been getting earlier with each baby.
Italian eek you've made it!!! So excited and pleased that the waiting i at last over for you xx
Tina how did the underwear buying go?
Shandy I think I'd be tempted to change GPs if I were you Angry - not what you need! Hope you feel better health-wise soon.
lol oh my goodness I 'think' I get where you're at - is it 'mini' IVF with the xp?? How did you manage that one then!!! Grin
30 weeks here and feeling pretty knackered. Sickness is also peeking its head round the corner again, esp when tired, but really can't complain. Back at work Tues and counting down the days til maternity leave! (about 30 of them...)
Love to all!

AngelGeorgie · 28/08/2011 22:11

Hey Diege glad u had good holidays. Whitby is lovely. Oh 30 weeks, 2 days also. Yes, 7 weeks tomorrow will be section date!!! Sorry you re feeling sick again. Right with you in the tired front. What date you finishing for mat leave? X
I have a block of 4 weeks left, 1 week AL then 1 week left at work. Finishing 7 th October. Next scan 12 th Sept. Hope u manage to get some rest. Kids are back at school soon aren' t they??? Xxx

Diege · 28/08/2011 22:50

Hi Angel! Yep, 30 weeks 2 days here too Grin Funny how we ended up with same due date but I think you were ahead of me on the conception front? Maternity leave starts for me on the 3rd October but I am able to 'work from home' (hee hee!) during the last 2 weeks of September. So not long now, though stressful business of sorting out work etc before I leave. But at least I can leave them to it and they'll have to deal with it themselves by a certain date. Trying not to stress!
Sleep well!

wallydog · 29/08/2011 08:59

Hi everyone - hope you don't mind me crashing?! Congrats to all that have their BFP! Good luck to all that are ttc! I turned 40 Aug 2011 and have been ttc #1 since then! I'm CD24 of a 32-34 cycle and 6dpo! Will test on 7th Sept if no AF! Any tips and tricks gladly welcomed! Been having cramps and bloating and tingly boobs so far! :)

AngelGeorgie · 29/08/2011 09:55

Hi Wallydog no tips apart from lots of swi!!! Enjoy xx

wallydog · 29/08/2011 21:40

thanks AngelGeorgie! ;)

Italiangreyhound · 29/08/2011 23:29

Hippy your boobs at it again!

Diege welcome back.

Welcome wallydog.

Last night I watched a great documentary. It was

www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b013y232/Im_Pregnant_with_Their_Baby/

It was very interesting and also (I felt) kind of gave some more of the story of why people wanted to be helped by surrogates and why others wanted to be surrogates. It showed how these young women (one who was only just turning 20) felt, what they thought about it all, but it did not quite paint the full picture of infertility. One couple were quite dead pan and although they said all the things about emotion they were rather quiet and laid back! I felt in some ways that people who were very expressive and 'gushing' about the whole experience would be more ?interesting?/likely to secure help from a person wanting to be a surrogate. I mean that the surrogate might really appreciate someone who kept in touch, said a lot, did a lot, etc. But any couple who has had years of infertility and failed treatment may find it harder to be that expressive and to actually acknowledge that this might really work for them. I just felt quite emotional watching it. I felt sympathy and care for all the people, it was a really good documentary in that rather than just feeling that I was watching someone else life as a kind of ?voyeur?, I was actually interested and concerned and learning something ? if you see what I mean! I would love to hear from anyone else who has watched it and has any views on it.

Best wishes to all.

Baby dust to all.

We've started our treatment. We are injecting Buseralin.