Fantastic 40+ thread - part 4

[hippychick66]

Come on ladies - you know who you are .......

Sorry Diege it's a ten minute wait on the fish...

Lovely to hear from you Hippy!! Thank goodness you decided to dongle. We were thinking of a helicopter search and rescue.

Jolls I've started on 25mg of DHEA. Week 2. I dreamt last night that I'd aged to around 60 and had grown, without my realising, a one-sided goatee. I woke up in a complete panic (temp 36.80!). All day I've been touching my cheek to make sure it's still hair-free. Awful. Still, I quite like my new Barry White singing voice . Will check at the clinic next week if I'm doing the right thing. I think your prescription was much higher than 25mgs, wasn't it. Something like 70? I'm worried about taking that much without having had my original levels checked.

Angel the lilac sounds lovely. Good choice.

Well - just off to have dinner with xdp to discuss fertility treatments!!! Yep...

Ahh it's because I asked for it skinless isn't it Lol Ooh tell us more about the xdp and anything fertility related. Is he up for it then???

Oh LOL sounds very interesting mmmm....'hope u get " somewhere" !!!
Diege have a lovely break. Hope the weather stays nice for u xcx

lou love the names.

OMG Lol! I can?t wait to hear how it went!! Panache, Belated Birthday Greetings. I agree with Hippy, all the best people are born at this time of year. I also had a birthday this week... turned (shhhhh ? don?t tell anyone else!!) 42 on Monday. F**k!!!

Seems like there are lots of congrats due esp to TTT for graduating with flying colours. Madelaine looks gorgeous! And Galway, was great to see you putting in an appearance and getting the list going again. I hope you?re ok.

So, the IVF failed in June, and DH and I were sure that it was something to do with low HCG/Progesterone., but consultant dismissive. DH and I felt frustrated that he would not prescribe anything other than Progesterone, so did some research and found this: www.fertilityfriends.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=226042.400 . Maybe you?ve heard it all before, but for me it was an absolute revelation when I got to the bit about vit B6, and bits about improving egg/embryo quality and preventing miscarriage. As she?s put explanations for everything, and had clearly done her research, DH and I decided to give it a go, with some slight tweaks to the recipe. DH?s sperm improved dramatically on these supps, so much so that we didn?t need ICSI with this round. (He also cut out caffeine and alcohol, stopped roasting his knackers with his laptop, avoided using car for 1.5 hour commute to work). Men?s fertility declines in their 40?s too..... As for me, we got fewer eggs this time (10 as opposed to 15), and the next day, only 4 had fertilised (was 8 last time), but those 4 actually made it to day 5 so the embryologist could pick the best two, and we even ended up with a frostie (only 2 left at end of 1st round). Now on two week wait, with Tuesday 23rd official test date. Not actually that optimistic now for a BFP, but you never know. If we can make it past tomorrow without AF putting in an appearance then we are doing better than last time.

Hopefulgum- I was interested what you?d said about inisotol and melatonin being good for egg quality. I will add these to my recipe!!

Hop - I have one of those monitors - seems quite good, but didn?t work for us as I have a blocked tube, and like Tina, was told that it is likely the other is not fully working, so IVF was our best option. I?ve had two consultants try and unblock my tubes, the second time without a general, which hurt like fk. I could have punched the guy as he didn?t tell me before he did it, and didn?t ask if anyone had tried... Of course they all know best.... Tina - plenty of women find the lap works for them. If it doesn?t, IVF lite could be your answer as it?s not so expensive a round. I?m thinking it might be our next option if this one does not work.

Well, I?m off for another glass of pineapple juice and to do some more obsessive symptom spotting/research.

Night all!
xx

fireflies wow how exciting! Have everything crossed for you - the wait must be so stressful but it sounds like you have really done your research and sound very clued up, whether it happens for you this time or the next. Will look out for your news when we get back from hols xxx
Off to get train now, so see you all in a week's time. Make sure that Lol behaves herself

Just dropping in to call out to Beattie - haven't seen you in a while. Are you okay?

Nice to hear from you fireflies. I do hope AF stays away and you get your bfp. That would be very exciting.

Thanks so much for that link. I've printed it out - bed-time reading. Though from skimming it, I think I might do most of it already!

I'm 7 DPO. Had blood taken this morning to check progesterone. Not feeling particularly pregnant, but you never know, and would dearly love to visit the fertility specialist with a BFP up my sleeve!

Oh Lol - that is one hellish dream!

Oh, my parents visited today. That was a a bit of a nightmare. My sister and her children all came too (my sister lives in the same town as me, my parents live about an hour and a half away). They spent the entire time discussing my sister's trip to Europe (in six weeks time) and what they would all do there (my parents will be in Italy at the same time). They also discussed my sister's children, their schooling etc...but did not ask after me, my children or anything else. I felt very left out, and wished I hadn't gone to so much trouble. At one point I sat in the toilet, almost in tears, feeling neglected by my own mother and father, but just feeling generally sad. I still feel sad about the miscarriages, and somehow it feels amplified by my uncaring parents. They don't even know about it because what would be the point. They obviously don't give a fig about me.

Sorry ... that was pitiful!Ignore me. I'm off to bed to indulge in a fashion magazine, with a hot water bottle at my feet. At least my hot water bottle is there for me... I won't put it anywhere near my tummy though...

Gum ((())). They won't have a CLUE how you feel - but I think many of us here on the thread will. My brother is Mr Goldenbollocks and my entire family dotes on him. They are give him stuff, hoping that I won't notice - a lovely little yellow sports car last time. It's hard to not feel invisible, but I bet your own lovely family values every minute of you, and they're the most important thing.

Fireflies thank you so much for that link. I'm going to get myself a and read through. I'm so sorry about the June IVF. You seem very calm and accepting about the situation, and that's really got to help. I'm worried that my 'anxious' personality is going to get in the way when IVF inevitably comes round in a few weeks time. Eeek. Please keep passing on the tips - great news, too, about the new embies. Sticky paste to you.

Dp (yes, we're getting somewhere) wants very much to come to the Fertility Clinic and really try for this baby. He's agreed that next time he feels like running because his family dreams might not come true he'll go to counselling instead. He's promised to bin the baby clothes hidden around the loft - in return, I've agreed to let him keep the cot, on the understanding that it GOES in a year if things haven't worked out, and that he STAYS. Phew - well, one day done, rest of life to go.

Bugger. The first thing I read is that I'm not allowed tea.

Tea, schmee...I cannot give up my cuppa. No way. When I got pregnant last time I cut down to one cup a day, and drank herbals the rest of the time. It just isn't the same. I know caffiene can be bad for ttc, but I think it's really more about five cups of strong coffee. That's my theory and I'm sticking to it. Decaf tea just isn't the same.

Lol, I am so glad things are going well with DP. I really hope you two will have a little baby together, but it is good that you have the agreement between you that he won't run at the first sign of trouble. Fantastic. Have you picked a fertility clinic? Do you have an appointment?

Thanks for your kind words about family. I know what you mean about "goldenbollocks" - it is upsetting that parents can be so neglectful of their other child/ren. I have always been "capable", so my parents do very little to help me out. My sister and brother get all the babysitting, whenever they like. It's very irritating - my sister uses them for fun things like going up to the city for three days to see a show with her hubby (and meanwhile still having an affair) and tell my parents it is an important specialist doctor appointment. Makes my blood boil. Despite all the shit she has put the whole family through whilst enjoying her mid-life crisis, she still gets priority over everyone else. ARGH!

I think my desire for a large family(still hoping for the 6th child to complete my family) is because I need to make my own family unit that doesn't include my parents or siblings as they are quite neglectful. I'm close to my sister, but often times feel used as her emotional handkerchief while she stuffs up her own life.

Does anyone keep in touch with Beattie?It's been ages since she's been in the snug and I worry about her.

Hi. Just a quickie to say I'm back from hols. Had a lovely time and dd's were extremely grateful and happy. Unfortunately today's been a bit pants as dd2 has knocked her front tooth half out and the doc just said there was nothing they could do. Poor thing, I feel so bad for her.
We were next door on the campsite to a family of 5, 3 girls the ages of my two and a 5 month old baby. It's made me very melancholy again.

Hi and take care Lou and diege. lol great to hear the progress on your dp you have been so patient and forgiving.
Happy birthday panashe a fellow Leo. Congrats herecomesthesun.

Back to work tomorrow, pants, and I have to fit in a dentist appointment for Dd too which will probably be another waste of time. I wish I could be more assertive with medics.

I didn't know Magic but what a terrible thing to happen.

Gum sorry to hear about the death of your ex. Sorry too that you had a crap time with your family. My guess is they did not realise that you felt left out, but I agree it is very annoying. Just console yourself that you have loads of lovely children and can continue to build a great relationship with them all, and that when you are visiting them when they are older you will know the bad habits to avoid from your own family.

Hippy all the very best for the future, in your new home.

AngelGerogie hugs to you.

Tank thinking of you, I think of you often.

lol, Diege, joll, Fireflies, everyone - hugs and baby dust.

Hi all; back at work today grh... Scan and consultant review later. Been worried on and off as movement seems to be very intermittent , which , realistically I know it will be but ..... Just wishing the next 8 weeks away whilst on the other hand trying not to focus on being pg. Maybe be at work will help, I hope so as time seems to be standing still at the moment.
Shandy glad u had a nice holiday. Can t wait to next year to I go abroad again it's only been 2 years since my last fab holiday abroad but it seems like forever.
HimItalian glad u re well xx
Gum keep plodding on xx
Waiting on tenter hooks as 1 of my friends has gone to hospital for induction today!!! Come on baby Adien!!!!

Gum your sister is truly taking the p*ss making the most of your goodwill! No wonder you're a little cheesed off with the situation.
Angel One hour at a time - it's the only way. Try thinking of a day at a time and you'll go mad. Thinking of you ((()))
Shandy poor you - that front tooth thing is so, well, visible, isn't it? Until it's repaired/replaced you can't help but notice. I have a veneer on one of my teeth to the left - it fell off just before new parents evening and I HID until the dentist was able to see me. I felt like Jaws from that James Bond film.

AAARRRGGGHHHH - caffeine withdrawal. It's very severe. The headache is thumping right behind my eyes. I've been in bed since 6pm last night - at dps, with his lovely dd looking after me (yes - aged 5 - she's well-trained). I slept for 14 hours. And the headache is still here - with nausea and stiff muscles. I knew I loved my tea, but this is ridiculous. I'm tempted to take an Anadin Extra (and have the 45mg of caffeine) as I've read that you should come off tea one cup at a time. Yet, I've probably got past the worst. It can go on for 9 days, apparently, and I need to get some work done. We'll see. Sorry to bang on - I'm so dead I can't seem to stop typing drivel..........

hi fireflies good luck with the 2ww!!! my consultant didn't mention IVF lite, what is it?? I know someone who had her tubes unblocked and went on to have a little boy so as you say there's successes, just hope I get a good consultant lol

Tina I'm hoping for IVF light (few drugs, just taking the one egg each month) and will be able to tell you more after my appointment at CREATE on Thursday. Fingers crossed. They'll also give me a scan with the fannycam. All my inner flaws - in real time. Can't wait

Hello ladies, sorry have been AWOL.....had family staying for 2 and a half weeks and couldnt get within sniffing distance of laptop!!! Have been trying to keep up with you all from work, however that's easier said than done. Just a quick post as my head is banging (me thinks tension headache from my very long 2.5 weeks as they departed yesterday) and just think I need a decent nights sleep. Had to have this month off from ttc as too worried that the relatives would hear us . Anyway what I really wanted to say was I have a date for my op to unblock my tube, it is 5 September. Told my boss at work, which if you recall I was worried about but that went well thankfully.
Have missed you and will be catching up very soon. Night night x

LOL good luck with your appt on Thursday. Never heard of IVF lite either???
Gum just do as we did with 1 of our sisters!!! Ostrichisised her!!! Well, not quite she decided she wanted nothing to do with any of the family which is lovely ad she was so superficial it was unbearable. I ve thanked my mum for having 4 kids as we ( my little sis , me and my bruv) still have each other without ever giving a thought to Joanne. She declined to attend my sisters wedding last year with no reason why and only contacted us via our " just giving" web site for Georgie. No phone call to us or my mum or dad. Never been any great loss to us as a family. Bugger her u say Gum xx
Hope everyone's well?
Thanks Shandy had literally been 1 day at a time very good advice. X
Scan absolutely fine today GILS a big baby but all looked good. Then waited over a hour to see my consultant!!! However all good I m anaemic so got o month of iron tablets. Section days either 17 /18 th Octobet depending upon what day my consultants on call. 2 steroid injections 48 hours before. Next scan in 3 weeks and she wants me to see my Midwive every 2 weeks for reassurance. GTT results normal, as I knew they would be.
Love to all xxxx

Hi Curly poor u. Rest up now x ?? Sept 5th? That's not long is it? How u feel about that? Xxx

Angelgeorgie sounds like you're being looked after well. I agree with taking it all one day at a time and I know you would like your last 8 weeks to fly by but try if you can to enjoy the rest of your pregnancy. Re your question about my op, to be honest I'm bricking it. It will be the 4th time in the last 12 months I'm going under general anesthetic, quite an invasive op and what if it's to no avail but then again if I didn't go ahead and have it done I would wonder what if

Curly thinking 'what if' for the rest of your life could do your head in. Better to deal with the, 'tried everything I could', no? That's what I'm doing (hence having to justify it in print ). AF has just arrived (a day early - CD26 - but bang on for my temp dates) and I'm wondering how on earth I'm going to explain the 'only BDd once a month for last 3 months' without giving away the fact that dp buggered off for a baby rethink. Thankfully, he's not coming to this appointment (at my request - if they tell me I'm in full-blown perimenopause - or need an immediate hysterectomy - I want to be alone).

Weirdly, my mind/heart are now playing tricks on me. Now he's 'back' I feel all the anger/bugger off feelings I should have had when he left. The last thing I want to do is prepare to have his baby. He has know idea I feel this way. I know this is probably a natural reaction to what's happened and will wear off, and I'm hoping that it's going to work in my favour and keep me level-headed for potential IVF, but it's a strange feeling, ttc with someone when you are angry with them. I'm relishing every quiet moment, lie-in, child-free moment. Very peculiar.

Gosh - 'no' rather than 'know'. What am I thinking? I'm an English teecher, for godness sayke.

thanks for making me chuckle lol

lmao at lol and 'fannycam - good description, really the indignities we have to suffer I know what you mean about those feelings. My dh and I had an episode almost a year ago when he left and although we're stronger than ever now I still feel resentful at times, especially since it's a year next week since it happened

curly may I ask how long you had to wait for the op to unblock your tube? I'm still waiting for my consultant to send the letter to my dr requesting I be referred for it, please also let me know how it goes as I'm a bit anxious about it.

Tina Didn't have to wait too long once I made the decision to go ahead with the op, however this is all covered by a private medical insurance through my employers. I will certainly keep you posted re the op.