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Fantastic 40+ thread - part 4

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hippychick66 · 15/06/2011 20:13

Come on ladies - you know who you are Grin.......

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AngelGeorgie · 24/07/2011 17:45

Oh crossed post!! Italian sounds fab , " back from a mini break to go on holiday" sorry about your DD. Fx you hear something soon re: donor. Xxx

Curlylox · 24/07/2011 19:27

Good to hear from you Angel/Lou and Italian. Sorry not to name check you all as want to make the most of my childfree time, DD is with family in London until Wednesday evening whilst I'm at work. Recovered well from lap and dye and gearing myself up for follow up appointment with cons/gynae findings on Thursday evening, gulp! Apologies for not posting as pulled muscle in my upper back, the pain was excruciating. Shuffled round the house like the hunch back of Notre Dame, literally....the worst thing was I wasn't doing anything out of the ordinary. Right have a check list of things I would like to accomplish before Wednesday pm but me thinks I will sit on my arse and chillax Grin. Hugs to all x x x

Curlylox · 24/07/2011 19:32

Italian you're not alone as my DD can be quite challenging too at times. A vast difference to when my DS was her age. Hopefully it's just a phase that will pass quickly.

lolfactor · 24/07/2011 21:26

Italian THANK YOU! What a great help. I really appreciate. I've cut and pasted your post into a word document so I can concentrate on it properly.

Curly Chillaxing is definitely what you must do. Unless you get anxious thinking about your 'to do' list, in which case... Confused. I'm presuming the pulled muscle was a hair-straightener injury. We've all been there Grin. I'm sending you positive vibes for Thursday. It's odd, because you'll be wanting them to tell you SOMETHING so you can make progress. If you get told that they've found NOTHING, it's what you should want, but doesn't get you anywhere. So, I'm simply hoping that you get the result you want. Whatever that is. ((()))

Angel I don't fancy that nurse's chances. He really doesn't know pregnant women, does he?

Hippy how's the move? What do you mean, they've not plumbed in the internet yet?

Gum Enjoy the calm. What's it like?

Well, I've just bought myself a second-hand kayak and have lugged it onto the canal today and had a paddle. It was so beautiful in the sunshine. I kept wanting to see baby ducks etc, but apparently they've moved to the centre of town where there's more bread Sad. So glad I didn't fall in. I really don't want to know what's in that canal. Yeeuch.

hopefulgum · 25/07/2011 10:53

Hello everyone.

I had my doctor's appointment today and she was great. We discussed all the blood tests and talked about reasons for miscarrying. She also talked about progesterone, and felt she wasn't 'expert' enough to decide whether I should take it once I'm pregnant(but says to take aspirin), so she's referred me to a fertility clinic and a specialist doctor in the city.

I feel a bit like a fraud going to see someone like that when I'm a) 44 years old,
b) a mother to 5 already and c) able to fall pregnant.

However, as she said, he may have some ideas about what to look for with recurrent miscarriage, what to test for (though, judging by the amount of blood taken today, I think we may have covered that), and what we should do once I fall pregnant again (I have every confidence I will again). I told her I was a bit afraid of specialists, and feel they'll just tell me to be grateful for what I have and to give up the quest. She said he isn't like that at all, he just wants to get all his patients pregnant.

It will be interesting to see what he says. I'll call the clinic some time this week and sort out an appointment. I start back at work tomorrow so won't get a chance.

I've just had a look at their website and it seems they specialise in IVF. I'm not going down that road, but maybe the specialist will just have some ideas for me.

Unfortunately there were no results form the pathology/chromo tests on the baby. She said they probably won't be in for a few more weeks.

Sorry this post is all about me - I have to check the dinner, I think it may be burning!

panashe · 25/07/2011 16:35

Hello Smile

Gum your doctor sounds very supportive and I think it will be worth a visit to see a specialist. I doubled up on my folic acid the day I got my bfp, had read somewhere it can't do no harm and may help, but aspirin can too. I hope you are ok, you sound more upbeat ?

Lol am impressed with your kayaking, actually I bet it was quite peaceful.

Curly have you moved ?

I'm tired and a bit irritable, just feel scared Sad

AngelGeorgie · 25/07/2011 17:59

Gum glad you got on well with your appt. Though, you did make me chuckle " he just wants to get all his pts pregnant" bloody hell that consultant sure is busy!!!! I take Aspirin 75mg and doubled up ny folic acid to 12 weeks, think I ve mentioned the Aspirin before.
Panashe. sorry you feel crap. I had an upset day yesterday about both Georgie and Scottie it came out of nowhere and clamped around my heart like a cold vice making me breathless and taking me straight back to those dark , horrible days... Urh.... Truely horrible. Hope your mood lifts soon.
Hi Curly hope u re ok? LOL I ve tackled the male nurse this afternoon as I expected all mouth didn t say a word out of term to me , though I was ready we ll see tomorrow!!!! That place is full of Billy bullshitters!!!! I completed my " licence to manage " course this A'm so they better all beware!!!!!!
Hi all hope .hippy is settling in to her new life of bliss. Hope *BB you re ok?
Love to all Italian, Diege. and anyone I ve missed xxxx

Curlylox · 25/07/2011 21:01

Angel I would like you to take some deep breaths count to 10 or 20........and feel the calm wash over you. You sound a little stressed and don't think that's good for you or GILS. You just get on with what you need to do and the other people in question can go.......... Panashe sorry to hear you're not feeling your best and hope your feeling positive/happier very soon. Oh think you have me mixed up with hippy as she's the one who has moved to IOW. Lol you are obviously an outdoor kind of gal, which I think is fab! Never in my lifetime would I think to buy a kayak and a second hand one at that. I can imagine that your paddle down the canal was quite serene. Gum hope you get the answers you want and I agree it will be interesting to hear what the this cons/dr says. How are you and dh feeling now? Fx you didn't burn the dinner Smile Hippy looking forward to hearing about your move and settling in in IOW.....soon, very soon! BB are you ok? Diege how did you and your dd's get on in London? I know Italian is on her hols am wondering if Shandy Spotty Nicole Mitzi and Isaboo are on hols too?????

AngelGeorgie · 25/07/2011 21:28

Arh thanks Curly. but I m fine Wink

panashe · 26/07/2011 09:47

Sorry Curly are you sure you don't want to move ??? Grin It must be someone else's turn after me, Beattie and Hippy !!

Hope you are ok Angel ? I'm ok just scared because my symptoms are much stronger this time and I know I will find it harder if I have mc.

I don't know whether to have an early scan. I have a tilted uterus and I think it would be better to wait until I was at least 8 weeks. I might book a private scan for the end of next week.

Off to Liverpool today to the Tate, dd has taken Art gcse and has her first piece of course work to do over the summer.

Hope everyone is ok xx

Diege · 26/07/2011 11:01

Hello! Back from London, which was great but very exhausting. Dds loved it, though weren't impressed with the tube...
Sorry to hear you're down Lou Sad. Good advice there though from curly. That nurse sounds a bit of an odd one - at least you have the info' on him!
Panashe wise to wait til 8 weeks I think. So far so good!
Italian was v.impressed by your Apprentice applcication. I think they've had 40 plus on before? Would be good to have a series that focused on mid-life career changes, as that would certainly appeal to the audience profile they get I'd imagine.
Lol kayeking sounds great. We used to live on the banks of a canal and dh had a kayek in the garage. Can't say he used it much though!
Last week of work before a few weeks of annual leave - can't wait!

Diege · 26/07/2011 11:02

Meant to say enjoy the Tate panashe! Great there, lots to see, plus the cafe is good too ( take your credit cards Wink )x

BeattieBow · 26/07/2011 13:13

hi all I'm still here!

HOpe the move is going well hippy. I am feeling much better about my move since the family joined me in the flat. We are treating it as an adventure, and if it doesn't work out, we'll go back to where we came from!

I'm gearing up to ovulation I think - since I was on clomid I get alot of pain and bloating around ovulation (which kind of puts me off swi actually) and look around 5 months pregnant which doesn't help! I am going to crack open the pre-seed this month which may completely put dh off!
(just went to buy grapefruit juice from tesco and accidentally bought orange juice instead. oh well!).

panashe hope it all goes well for you - it's a good sign you have lots of symptoms I think

gum I'm in the same position as you and I feel a bit of a fraud going to see fertility specialists too tbh but I don't suppose your specialist will judge you for it. have you thought about how much intervention you'll go through to get pg?

BeattieBow · 26/07/2011 20:48

aargh! dd3 (aged 6) is at granny's house for a few days. She's just phoned to say she has had a haircut. She had a lovely one length chin length bob which took us years to get thick and one length. and she looked so cute. And now she doesn't Sad . how could MIL cut her hair? And a blocky type fringe too.

aargh!!

Diege · 26/07/2011 21:09

ooh BB I would be fuming - in fact I am fuming on your behalf Angry I remember a thread on MN a while ago when a MIL did the same and the general consensus was not positive. How are you going to approach it?
On a MIL note, mine came to stay with Dh this weekend when we were away in London. She went through the laundry pile that was by the washer, removed the dds uniforms/my things, and washed (and ironed!!) dh's socks and pants...please say I'm not going to turn out like that one day...

HOPEFULLNESS · 26/07/2011 22:31

Can i join you? Am i in the right place? Not being true to my nickname tonite, and could do with some 40+ company... I am 44, have one DS, 4 M/C, had all investigations, including St Mary's(told hyperfertile as pregnant every attempt,) took progesterone and now problems conceiving at all - back to looking at follicles, today gp messed up blood test...whats another month eh?How long do i keep us going through this misery to get a sibling for DS> Its been a very long 2 yrs.

Curlylox · 26/07/2011 23:03

Welcome Hopefullness. Sorry about your mcs. Can I ask what are the blood tests for please?

hopefulgum · 27/07/2011 00:38

Penashe - glad to hear your symptoms are stronger - that's a good sign.

With my mc's, my symptoms weren't as strong as in the past, which is why I was so anxious all the time(for good reason it seems).

Welcome Hopefullness, I'm so sorry for your losses. How old is your DS? You will be in good company here.

Beattie, I have thought about how much intervention, and truthfully, I'd prefer not to have any at all. As the dr was saying - it's not getting pregnant that is the problem, as I managed that twice in 6 months, it's staying pregnant. I'm hoping the specialist can help me with that - whether it is due to hormonal imbalance, clotting issues etc. Of course it could just be bad luck or bad chromosomes.

I'd just like to know that I've done all I can before I give up the "quest" - which is what it is starting to feel like!

I'm 10dpo, and got bfn - not at all surprised. But woke up with a hot flush and high temp, so felt hopeful (I guess it's just the impending menopause!)Angry)

It's my due date for my first loss. I'm not sure what I'll do to mark the day (cry a lot,probably), but I'm trying to carry on as normal. I would rather be in labour and anticipating my LO's birth.Sad

HOPEFULLNESS · 27/07/2011 08:36

Thanx Curlylox. Just the Day3 test for FSH levels and another newer test the GP suggested (trying to placate me after not labelling the sample!) , sorry dont remember name of that one.Apparently they will at least be able to tell me how tired my ovaries are - looking for low numbers preferably under 10 apparently. Dont know if they can test for egg quality through blood tests though, as i'm sure that is the reason for my M/C's.
Thanks for the welcome Hopefulgum, Ds is 3 in October, and he is what has got me through all these losses. So sorry about your loss - If you need any info re the whole investigation process, i am out the other side (including with Mr Rai)so may be your woman. Be careful with progesterone though - just my experience but at age 44 it really messed me up, and now suddenly not getting pregnant. They say it cant be the progesterone - hence looking at whether i am heading towards menopause, but my cycle is all over theplace whereas before it was likeclockwork. good luck!
Beattie so sorry - these anniversaries are so hard - cry all you need to if u can xx

AngelGeorgie · 27/07/2011 17:22

Hi Hopefullness sorry you re here!!
Hi * curly hope you re well?
BB lots of hugs and love hope stuff picks up soon x
HiGum you sound slightly more positive. X ^Panashe hang in there.
I m not too bad heard a song from Georgies service this AM which started me off ( Eva Cassidy " Somewhere over the rainbow" ) feel quite tearful today think is as I m tired as works very busy. Missing Georgie and Scottie very much just keep thinking it's not how life should be. They should both be here.
Hi everyone else hope you re all muddling through xxx

lolfactor · 27/07/2011 17:48

Hi Hopefullness glad you could join us - just wish it was in better circumstances. I've had the ovarian reserve test (at 44) and it wasn't great news - I'm in the 'very poor' category, according to the Zita West clinic. I manage to get pregnant, but I miscarry. I'm 45 now and guessing the odds are a little shortened. It's interesting what you've said about progesterone; I'm very fertile and was wondering whether to take it. I'm not having my clockwork cycles messed up. It sounds like a nightmare! Sorry you had to endure that.

It's CD24 and I'm in the worst part of the TWW. I only dtd once (CD12) but have still managed to psych myself up to thinking that every twinge is a sign of impending pregnancy.

So, I'm going to force myself to mark GCSE coursework as a punishment - every time I think about nausea or nipples I'll have to mark another paper. Might just have another Brew and Biscuit. I should I make that two tingly BiscuitBiscuit? Bugger - where's the pen...

lolfactor · 27/07/2011 17:52

BTW BB I'm horrified about the MiL! What on earth was she thinking? I'm stunned that grandmas do their own thing. My mum cut my niece's hair once. My ex sister-in-law cited the incident in her divorce from my brother. Mum was unrepentent, saying, 'Grandma's have rights'. Er...no they don't, mum!

panashe · 27/07/2011 20:08

Hello just a quickie, had to laugh Beattie but only because it reminded me of what my own mother did once whilst we were away on holiday...she painted the front door a different colour Shock exdp was furious Grin

Hi to HOPEFULNESS

Lol if you're cd 24 and dtd cd 12 I reckon you could test ???

hopefulgum · 28/07/2011 01:03

((HUGS)) AngelGeorgie - I love Eva Cassidy and that is a beautiful version of "Somewhere over the rainbow", so fitting for your darling little girl. You are right, your little girl and Scottie should be here with you. Soon GLS will be here. She won't ever replace Georgie, but I know she will bring you so much joy.

Yesterday was slow and really difficult for me. My DS kept me busy, but every time I cried he'd be at my side with a tissue and getting quite anxious for me to stop crying. It felt wrong that I had no where to go to place flowers. I think I may have to plant a tree (although I don't have much space in the garden - too many trees already!) for the babies I lost.

OMG - those MIL stories are incredible! What a cheek to cut a child's hair without their parent's permission. And doing only DP's laundry! WTF! And painting the front door? I thought my MIL was bad, but mostly she just gives me crappy birthday presents ( like the one where she gave me two used novels to read - and then could I return them? Needless to say, I never read them and did return them to her.)

Are you tempted to test LOL? Or are you speeding your way through the marking???

AngelGeorgie · 28/07/2011 06:30

Thanks Gum xxx

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