Fantastic 40+ thread - part 4

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Come on ladies - you know who you are .......

Hi LOL yes I m back at work tomorrow. Reflexology is lovely I just have it once a month now it's so relaxing.
Hi Isaboo. hope u re ok? Apart from your " O" pain xxx
Pleased Tom won shame Helen fell at the last post thought her business idea was crap and that's what let her down!! Xx

Hi Isaboo, haven't seen you for a while. Gosh - half way across the car park - that's the stuff of my nightmares! Poor you.And isn't MN(mother nature, not mumsnet) a total bitch sometimes - on your birthday - thaat's really not on!

BB, I've not had the courage to miscarry "naturally" - I just couldn't deal with the physical stuff while dealing with the emotional stuff. But since having the erpc I have worried what damage it may do. My cervic feels different since the erpc - not as smooth as it once was (another question for the gp - I'd better write this all down!). I also worry that it may take some time to build up the endometrial lining again. I worry that is why I miscarried last time. We can just add that to the list of 500 reasons why Angela (Gum) miscarried, shall we. When I'll probably find it was just crappy old eggs.

Anyway, on a happier note, I'm actually getting some colour on my opk's and starting to feel some abdo discomfort, which feels like ovulation coming up in the next few days. Of course I should use contraception (Ha! what's that?) to prevent, but I won't. If it's meant to be, it will.

I'm impressed by the way some ladies can do personals for everyone. Sorry, I'm rubbish at it. So I'll just send a big communal hello to everyone.

Hippy - how are you? I can understand your worries. I hope the doctor can put your mind at rest.

Hippy good luck on the move.

Lol we were told a year wait. Last time we were told 14 months and it would have been 14 months form start to finish but a blip happened which is rare (donor did not have enough eggs) and so it too longer. Normally, the wait time they give you is until embryo transfer so we are almost into over time (as of next week) and still no sigh of a donor. I can't complain, it's life. I just want it all over with now!

Diege insenitive friend all forgotten, it's life. How are you doing, not long to go now. Did you see the final!!!!!!!

Shandy agree with you that Helen and Tom make a winning combination. helen is also so pretty when she loosens her bun!

I'm sorry I've been a bit distant, I can't keep thinking about fertility all the time and I feel a bit left out of it all. I seem to be getting the emotions without the actual af!

Hugs to all

Sorry that should be

I'm very tired of the wait. Last time we were told 14 months and it would have been 14 months from start to finish but a blip happened which is rare (donor did not have enough eggs) and so it took longer. Normally, the wait time they give you is until embryo transfer and this time they said one year so we are almost into overtime (as of next week) and still no sigh of a donor. I can't complain, it's life. I just want it all over with now!

Italian I bet you are tired of waiting. Fingers crossed that a donor will appear soon. I know what you mean about thinking about fertility the whole time. I have to do something different now because my preoccupation with it all just wasn't sustainable.

gum I also worry about lining issues. I was reading somewhere (probably on another thread) that vit d deficiency can cause miscarriages. so I thought about taking that too.

lol hope that your sofa episode does the trick!

I fear that I will have to go to an EPU - bleeding has nearly stopped now, but pregnancy test is still positive. It is a strange feeling when you are hoping for a negative result! No idea what's happening internally though.

hippy hope the move goes ok - are you moving next weekend? I think clomid really messed me up actually. and also read that there are a higher rate of miscarriages on clomid, so all in all I have decided it's not worth it for me (since I ovulate anyway).

isaboo hello again! didn't really have the massive bleed thing too badly. but anticipating it all the time isn't too much fun! I think that I probably stopped being pg at around 6 weeks, so I am hoping that this means it isn't too hideous an experience. still worst than a period though (I don't know who said it was just like a period but that's not been my experience), and those pad things are too horrendous for words!

BB I think it was me who said that my natural MC was just like a heavy period BUT I think mine was a blighted ovum or a very early feotus that didn't come out until 7 weeks so probably not much to lose - IYSWIM.

I also kept waiting for the flood but it never really came.

I spoke to my lovely GP today - quite funny really cos I think I am more knowledgable than her on OPKs . She said stress probably stopped me from oving and that all these strong positives are just confirming that I'm on the second half of my cycle (that doesn't make sense to me ). She also said she doesn't think I'll ov at all this month and might just have a light period but I still feel like I'm on the brink of it and expect it to happen once I move. Anyway she said it wont harm my ovaries to produce and egg and then not release it and she expects my cycle to return to normal soon. She also didn't know that NHS guidlines suggest that the thyroid level should be under 2 when TTC and I got her to agree to increase my thyroxin too.

Annoyingly when you google 7 days of pos on opks you get loads of women saying, "And then i turned out to be pregnant!" Alas I tried that and did a HPT - the only feckin' test not to do a second line for me - ahh well.

Sorry not to name check everyone very busy throwing the contents of my life away - why did I keep all this sh*t for 10 years???

just quickly:-

italian the wait must be nearly over my love.

isi AF on your birthday is the pits and should not be allowed.

gum sorry you are still wondering why you MCd again. I am sure it's nothing you did wrong ((()))

lol I would have shagged him too - good luck with the timing.

hippy did you go to an EPU to get scanned after your natural mc? I am so reluctant to do that. My only window work wise (and before the children break up) is tomorrow though. I just don't know if I can be bothered! what day of your cycle are you? I sometimes don't/didn't ov until day 20/21.

BB - just wanted to say that if you don't want to go to the EPU you don't need to yet, just because you are still getting positive hpts. I am a week ahead of you m/c at 7 weeks like you, but one week further on. I am still getting positive tests but my scan last week showed that my uterus was back to normal size and completely empty. You can expect to get positive tests for a a while even after a complete m/c. I am even ovulating this week, which I was not expecting, but is possible with hcg in your system still. I just wanted to reassure you that it does sound like your m/c has gone as expected at this stage, it is worth doing another hpt in another week to check that your hcg is going down, it might even be negative by then, although mine are still faint positive.

Big wave to everyone else....!

GG sorry .
BB even after my ERCP I had positive pregnancy tests for about 3-4 weeks oh, also after the medical management. Sorry it's been painful xx
Hippy. hope your packing is going well? X
Italian hope you hear something soon.
Gum how you doing?
Hi Shandy, Isaboo, Diege, LOL , Curly and Panashe hope all are well?
Had a growth scan this morning all fine GILS looking a good size and all measurements correct for the dates.Very busy day at work the world and his wife wanted to off load their woes!!!!
Love to all xxx

yes BB i did have a scan. It was already booked to see if the tiny sac had grown since the last scan and of course I'd lost it in-between. I felt re-assured though to have had the scan. I agree that after both my losses I did get positive pregnancy tests for a while. And agree you should wait a week and then test again. xxx

I am on day 29 today - all very odd and amazing how stress can effect the body.

Thanks to all who asked - packing is going ok. At the moment it's still clearing out all the junk - why didn't you all tell me to start earlier

big hug for GG - sorry you're going through all this shit AGAIN!

hooray for GILS

Hippy - you should have started earlier!

Hippy

Thanks GG and hippy. Can I ask how long the bleeding went on for for both of you? (sorry am getting a bit obsessive about it).

I started doing my cbfm today around 10 days after bleeding started. Bleeding has tailed right off now, so I am hoping that's it. a rummage around has shown that my cervix has closed and is high up now (sorry that's tmi I know!). So hopefully everything is ok, and I'm back to normal whatever that may be. Dh is still in B this week to finish the school term so I won't see him anyway for any swi or swoi - not that I want to, but I did find myself eyeing up a man in Pret this morning

having very second thoughts about moving now - but maybe that's because I'm on my own in L, having a mc. Anyway, am missing B alot and all my friends there, and even asked the headmistress if our school places are still available (they're not). I have promised dh I will give L a good try though, so will try not to move back by Christmas!

Sorry all a bit of a me me me post.

HOpe everyone else is ok. Jolls haven't heard from you for a while - hope you are alright. at you in B anyway!

Not sure really BB - i think it was about 9 days ish. Sorry you are having a hard time. L will be better when everyone else arrives. am at u eating at Pret - yum yum!!

GG - d'ya think??? Should I start packing now???

BB I was well over 2 weeks to be honest and I probably ovulated straight after or during cos i got AF bang on time ....at 28 days post mc ....probably the only time I have been pleased to see her !
Hippy pack ...pack PACK ! like your life depends on it !

Then again having moved 5 times in the last 10 years don't fool yourself that organisation is possible at the other end .........chaos is not life threatening for any member of the family and nobody is handing out a "TOP MOVER" medal so actually enjoy the thing and get legless at your own massive farewell party.....would be the honest advice

- isaboo - getting legless sounds very relaxing right now!

Morning all

How is everyone ? Hope you are feeling a bit better Beattie. Maybe all your hormones are making you have second thoughts about moving. When you're not 100% you just want what is familiar and maybe it feels too big a change, but like Hippy says you might feel different when you are all together there.

Are you getting removal firm Hippy ? I'm a bit like Isaboo and have moved around the last 5 years and the people I use have made some money out of me! But they are fab, they take all beds etc down put them up in new place, sort out tv,dishwasher, washing machine, give ideas about where to put furniture. last time I moved I was struggling to find a place for piano and it went in one room then another then back again and they were so patient with me

I need to register with new doctors because of moving and I rang yesterday and gave them all our details, previous addresses and doctors all dob etc etc and then after being on phone about 15 minutes she said ok ring back on thursday and I will let you know if you can register and I was thinking wtf was all that about ??

I felt crap yesterday ( still do tbh ) lots of cramping, back ache, leg ache and resigned myself to mc. It is very hard to have a positive frame of mind because I can't help thinking When I miscarry not If My last mc was at 8 weeks but baby had died at 5+3 which is what I am about now and yesterday I kept thinking I would prefer to start bleeding now than to go another few weeks and then it happen.

It doesn't help reading all the stats on over 40's. Beattie know I've probably asked before but how old are you ?

I'm 41 panashe (in may)

feel about 90 at the moment.

Yes, I think hormones are playing a big part in how I feel. definitely had a big crash last week. Just feel extremely tired now.

I felt like you too panashe - sure a mc would happen, and sure enough! but actually it is a defence mechanism and it does make you feel not quite so bad when it does happen ime. I really hope it does go ok for you. When would you get a scan do you think?

are you moving to a new city Panashe? I am trying to find tips on how to stay friends with people you have left behind. I have some really good friends in B and don't want to lose contact with them. that's my main worry about leaving really.

Hi Beattie no I have stayed in the same city, completley different side hence needing a new gp. I understand what you are saying because our move was nearly a 200 mile south one. I think you will stay in contact but the difference is meetings will always have to be planned and there won't be the popping round for a coffee element.

I am not thinking about a scan at the moment and I would need a referral to epu from gp ...which I haven't got yet. Dp wants me to have scan for reassurance but I feel unsure. I know I'm lucky because I have 4 dc without the slightest problem and that is why my mc took me completely by surprise, but I feel more prepared now and have my eyes open

Panashe I am so sorry. Total shit. I'm not sure why you're not going for a scan but I'm guessing it's going to be complicated if you've not got a gp. Massive hug and really hoping that you are just feeling pregnancy symptoms.

Hi lol I'm hoping they are just pregnancy symptoms too. What about youare you entering the 2ww ? Was ex dp aware of the timing ?

Hello! Just popping in quickly for a break from marking, and to try and keep up with things. Panashe, don't panic just yet; could well be pregnancy-related, and it is good news that there's no spotting. Maybe book an appointment with the GP (if they 'let' you register - very odd!) when they ring you back? Might also be a chance to suss out what sort of practice they are etc, IF you need them later on.
Hippy oh best of luck with the move! We went on the cheap and hired a van for the big stuff, but they just basically dumped it in the nearest room and we ended up piling things loose into the car in the end! We only moved down the road (literally) but it was so, so stressful. Realise I'm not helping here...How are you feeling ovary-wise?
It's odd about eggs and being over 40..I often wonder how the stats on chromosome abnormailties 'stack up' against the oh so often bad news that we all get after an inital bfp. I mean, odds of ds at 45 even is something like 1 in 20, so still relatively uncommon to be the 'one'...so I am presuming the problems us oldies have result from other more 'nasty' chromosome problems? Or linked to structural things?? .
On that rather negative note (sorry) I'd better get back to it!

Ooh yes lol do tell...I for one was pleased that you had done the deed - not sure why . What would the x say if it was indeed the month??