Fantastic 40+ thread - part 4

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Come on ladies - you know who you are .......

Thanks Italian and thankfully no one was hurt. Just glad the people were reasonable, I thought if he starts shouting at me I will just burst into tears. In fact I did have a little cry after we had swopped details etc and they had gone. Cross with myself as well but it's a lesson learned.

Hope you are ok, have you had your holiday or is it imminent ?

Morning! Panashe hope you're ok - sounds quite a traumatic experience x How are you feeling? Any more spotting?
Lol RAF camp sounds quite 'challenging' . Oh and sorry to break it to you this way but I've marked your paper (what were you thinking??) and you've failed
Hippy how exciting having house/school all ready. Have you done that packing yet?
Curly congrats on your nephew
Italian I will be watching your Tom tonight; have gone off Helen big time after last week - I do like Susie but don't think I'd feel that 'secure' in her hands in business terms!
I'm off to Cardiff now for a few days for work, so back Friday. Only 96 papers to go now!!! xxx

Lovely name, Curly! Good choice.

Panashe the only time I've driven into someone at a roundabout was when I WAS 17. You just get into the 'go' zone, don't you, and then the person in front has the temerity to stop. Bonkers.

Hippy I can't wait to see you all unpacked and happy in IoW, heading off to the beach with the sprogs. How's the packing going, then?....ow!

Diege are you telling me I should have revised?

Italian, yes, a little news. I got the most beautiful letter today from exdp. I can't explain just how contented it made me feel - not because he's coming back (he isn't) but because he's making progress without me. He says he loves me 100% and knows he's behaving irrationally. He was deeply upset after my mc (following on from the cps before) and it brought back all sorts of emotions from his previous marriage (when his wife didn't want more than one child) so he fled. He's not coming back until he can say for certain that he's not going to cause me any pain. In the meantime, he's clearing out his loft - apparently he's stashed baby clothes, buggy, cot and blankets up there. Ladies, he's just as bonkers as we are about having another child. He says he's going to get rid of everything, rent a house near me that has no previous history of 'family', and focus on the future. What will be will be. And we're watching a DVD tonight, with Green and Blacks chocolate and a glass of Shiraz. And it's CD12. Only I haven't told him that bit .

Ooh Lol you devil you It sounds like he's sat down and had a good think about things and is doing something about it - good. Panashe glad you're ok after your car accident and no one was hurt. Erm I had a car accident when I was 18, was not on a roundabout though, it was a shop window Before you ask, my eyes were open, there was no alcohol or drugs involved and no one was hurt (happened on a Sunday when shops only opened 6 days a week, remember that?)

Penashe, sorry to hear of your accident,glad you are okay.

Lol - that all sounds really good. Shiraz and Green and Blacks - fabulous. Which DVD did you watch?

I recently watched "Sarah's Key" with my DH. Gosh, that was a tear jerker, but a great story. We both really enjoyed it. At one point my DH said,"That man is an idiot - he'd rather lose his wife than have a baby with her - he's mad". That made my heart swell a bit.

Deige - glad to hear you only have 96 papers to go. I know what a struggle it is to get through them, but a great feeling when it's all done (and you get paid!). Speaking of which, I just realised I haven't been paid for the papers I marked about 2 months ago. Must check that out.

I can't believe I'm going back to work in two weeks. It's been three years! I have worked a little bit - tutoring - but it isn't the same as doing whole days!
At least the job isn't in the classroom - I will be tutoring individuals, so it won't be hard work.

I will have to go back to teaching in the new school year (Feb) I suppose.My plan of being on maternity leave again isn't to be, so I'll be back at the chalk-face. I was hoping to avoid that.[hsad]

I spent four hours in the garden yesterday morning. The time just slipped away and I hardly noticed. For the first time in two weeks I didn't spend every minute thinking about the miscarriage/baby/fertility etc. Just what I needed. And now the vegetable patch is almost full of new seedlings. Should have loads of vegetables to eat in the spring.

Beattie, if you are reading, I am thinking of you. I hope you are okay.

Love to everyone else.[hsmile]

Hello all, sorry this is a bit of a me me post I have a question which I just posted on the clomid thread but thought I'd ask you as well.

Just wanted to say to lol it does sound like your ex is really trying to work through this and it isn't easy - we are clearing out our loft too and my DH has asked his mum and dad if we can store some baby stuff in their loft, I said lets just give up on it but he said no.

panashe it's easily done to go into the back of someone and you probably cried cos you are hormonal - try not to stress, lovie.

Bb - are you ok?

Anyway, here is my question:-

We are moving in 2 weeks and only confirmed where we are moving to a few days ago, the house is full of stuff and time is ticking by so i am STRESSED. I have had the 2 lines on an OPK 3 times this month and have failed to ovulate after. I keep checking my temp and it is still low, then a few days go by and I feel like I'm about to ovulate, i check on the OPK and it says yes, we do some shagging and then no temp rise. It's very frustrating. I purposely didn't take clomid this month cos I suspected it would be a stressful time and i only had 2 months supply left.

so, do you think A) my body is trying to ovulate but the stress is stopping it. B) the one months worth of clomid I took last month has cocked up my system, C) I have suddenly developed PCOS in my 40s or God forbid D) I'm pre-menopausal?????

I am worried that i might be damaging my ovaries in some way. Also there is an E option - the thermometer could be broken cos I am getting very erratic temps but only 1 that suggested I was post ovulation.

Sorry to barge on and waffle on about me.

Very quickly running in to say I am low risk 1:859 for down syndrome, 1:11000 for edward 1:25000 for patau.

Hope all are well will catch up soon I promise.

Sorry Hippy can't help with your questions, I'm sure someone will be along shortly to put your mind at ease. In the meantime you could always start packing .......seriously..... moving is stressful is there anyone who can help you pack at all, perhaps do a checklist so you know what needs to be done, can delegate and cross off whatever is completed etc?

Congratulations, Hairy. That must be a weight off your mind. Those odds sound miniscule.

Hippy if there is ANYTHING I can help with packing-wise, you know I'm round the corner and will drop everything to help. Tip runs, the lot. You don't often write 'me' posts, so it's nice to read one for a change.

As for the Clomid questions, the people on the thread will help more, but
GET A NEW THERMOMETER. You'll know for sure that it's working. And it really won't cost very much. The Boots digital with the fertility notebook for monitoring should do it. It makes for riveting reading when you're desperate...

I know what you mean about the 2-months supply as you're so worried your Dr won't give you any more. Personally, I'd save it till I was settled. The odd lines/dropped temps suggest that your body may be concentrating on other stuff at the moment (understandably). Sorry to be nosy, but how is the EWCM? It might be handy to go with that, and mood, while you try and work it out. I think your body is quite good at telling you when to go for it.

I'm always worrying about being perimenopausal, but I have to say that the happier/more settled I am, the more constant my readings, so it may well be the stress, not the age, that's influencing things.

But, as I say, the Clomid Thread will have the answers - not granny here, rocking in her chair

Thanks for all the offers of help with the packing. It is getting a bit manic around here to be honest.

I am no longer really interested in if I've ovulated with regard to getting pregnant - I just want to ovulate cos I am worried that I am somehow damaging my ovaries by not releasing this friggin' egg

I have permanent pain in my ovary region. did another OPK today (4th positive in 10 days) and the second line is so dark now (way way darker than the control line). I just want this egg to pop now!!

Anyway, I've started a new thread in conception so I'll see what people think. I think deep down i am sure it's just delayed due to the house move but you know the hypocondriach (sp) in me can't help but think it's PCOS or pre-menapause (jolly laughs cos I am such a hypocondriach!!).

Love to all - gotta dash, haven't eaten dinner yet!!!!

ps. Will let you know if/when my flippin' temp rises.

forgot to say - hairy you soooo deserve this to go well matey.

Lol great news ExDp is thinking it all through.

Did things get streamy on the sofa??

Hippy get packed!

Diege what did you think about the Apprentice? Good result?

Gum, jolly and co, hugs.

Today I waited all day for my GP to phone back on my mobile (as requested) and he called on the home phone when I was walking the dog! So I missed it! I was also phoning about a TSH blood test (result) and getting the OK to up my dose. My TSH is still not under 2 so I am thinking it will need to go down. Still no sign of a donor. Eating going OK, rather a piggy morning of cheese and things but not so bad overall.

Hi I thought I'd posted but it seems to have vanished into the ether again.

hippy yes it must be stress, there's a lot of examples of such happenings in Toni's book. Think of it as your fantastic body holding out until the conditions are prime for getting pg instead of wanting to waste a precious egg. Our bodies really are amazing. I remember thinking about the peculiar phenomenon of girls cycles going in line when you live together. What's that all about and does it work here on cyberspace?

lol wow what's going on with you and dp? All that baby stuff I can see how he gets you, it does pull at the heartstrings. I would so love it if my dp were more sensitive and emotional but alas it does have it's problems doesn't it?

hairy fab news. That is so good to hear those odds I'm sure, after all the worry people pile on age factors.

curly I like the name, I wish your sister well and for auntie curly.

I'm having a mammoth Af. And no there's no chance this is ov bleeding hippy. Normally 3 days and a bit after and I'm done, but this one's still going strong after 6 days. hippy I think I need to consider options a to e?

I was at a friend?s today with quite a few people when one friend told me another friend (who was there) was expecting another baby (they both have three kids). I felt a bit pissed off that she told me, I would rather the mum-to-be-told me privately, not in a crowded room! To me that said that the mum-to-be had told others but not bothered to tell me (privately) I mean she is not my best friend or anything but we see each other on a regular basis and are on facebook and email so a quick email or message or even a text would have given me a heads up. A mutual friend announcing it in an almost smug way did just vaguely piss me off. To me was just a tiny bit hurtful! Was I being over sensitive?

What was good was that for the first time I did not feel too sad or upset. A few years ago I might have gone off and cried!

Maybe I am just a bit oversensitive, but it does say to me that these two friends today, who do not know we are awaiting further fertility treatment (but do know we have had fertility issues) have kind of forgotten that I may still want another baby. Maybe they think I should be over it by now! What was even weirder was that I was also holding a baby (another friend?s baby ? it was a big group) and I was totally OK holding the baby! Life is strange, but despite feeling pissed off (vaguely) I did not feel really sad. Maybe I am coming to terms with it all!

Hairy - that is wonderful news-so happy for you.

Hippy - I don't know much about clomid, but to me it does sound a bit like stress. How frustrating for you. It sounds like your body is gearing up to O, but then stops - so it could well be stress. Perhaps a visit to the doc? Could they do an ultrasound to have a look at the ovaries (to help put your mind at rest)?

Shandy - sorry to hear you are having a horrible AF. Did you have an ultrasound to make sure the miscarriage was complete (sorry, that sounds so cold)? Sometimes if something is retained it will cause heavy bleeding - but probably not this long after your mc. Sorry, just rambling here.

AFM - not even the slightest of lines on the opks, so looks like it will be like the last miscarriage - I didn't ovulate til day 21. Not that I feel ready to ttc yet. I think I'd rather see if there is anything we should do first - have some blood tests done etc.

Italian - I hope you can get your TSH sorted. And that you get your donor egg soon. It's been a long wait for you.

hello all. Sorry I've not been around. Have being having quite a tough time of things. the mc itself has been ok so far, but I am steeling myself to going to an EPU to get scanned. I really really think though that natural mcs are crap, and erpc's are the way to go.

(am wondering if I do a test and it's negative, then would that be conclusive that the mc is complete, or do I need a scan?). Anyway, can't help but think there will be a hideous bleeding incident at some stage - probably this weekend when we've arranged to go away with friends.

I am feeling much more myself today though - have come back to B and seen friends, seen dh (we've been apart all week which has been shit) and am feeling more positive.

hippy I had awful ovulation pains with Clomid - that got gradually worst each month and still happened in the month I took off. Ovulation was delayed by a day or 2 each time as well. I definitely knew I was ovulating! (felt too bloated and painful to do much about it though!).

shandy might this be a cp for you? It sounds like what I am going through at the moment tbh.

panashe hope you are ok.

italian I agree it is difficult. i keep thinking my sister is going to announce her pregnancy. then again, i do quite a good job of hiding my broodiness/ttc status, so maybe you do to?

jolls are you around? Hope you are ok.

BB hugs ((())) I agree I always prefer an ERCP to a natural MC as at least I know alls gone then. I would still ask for a scan personally to put my mind at ease. Xx
Hi all had a lovely few days away had my reflexology yesterday and just chilling now. It's so lovely to be off work.
Hippy sorry with regards to your bizarre cycle and pains as BB says sounds like it could be related to the previous Clomid? Hope the packing is going ok? It's quite amazing how much crap you ( we) acquired when we moved 5 years ago. Not relishing the idea of another move as since moving here we ve also acquired a shed full if stuff, a loft full if stuff and 2 babies stuff!!! Mmm.....
Hi Italian sorry you experienced selfishness in your " friend" . I ve learnt in the last year many people are ultimately selfish and self serving they don t see outside their " box" or choose not to.
Shandy sorry you re having a crap time also x
Gum much love to you x
LOL hi x
Panashe defiantly sounds like your ex wants you back??? Or sorry is that Z. LOL ??? Can u tell I ve been off work all week??? My brain is in shutdown mode!!!
Hi Curly, Diege and anyone I ve missed. Xxxx
Not much going on here apart from
sTILL debating wheter to get another cat my next week of AL is in August so wouldn t till then so I can be at home with the new arrival but Ant sticking to his guns!!! I ll have to re- introduce my powers of seduction!!! ( sure they used to be for swi not for a new cat!!!!!)

Morning BB I'm so sorry to hear your news I would also go for an erpc any day over natural, but I know some people 'prefer' the latter. Thinking of you x
Lol so how did it go with the xp??
Hippy am clueless about clomid, but what the others say makes sense; plus the stress of moving must be having some effect on your system?
Italian, hope you're ok after insensitive friend x
panashe how are things?. ditto Shandy?
Pretty quiet here. You will all be raising you eyes when I tell you that I have sold my soul to the AQA devil and said I would take more scripts to mark as they have some over that other (lesser ) markers have returned...so that takes me back up to 127, BUT on the positive side the extra money will easily pay for a Phil & Teds, so can't really refuse that...I promise not to moan anymore anyway, as all down to me agreeing!

Evening all..

How is everyone ? I am sat with ds while he catching up with the apprentice. Got the log burner on and feeling cosy. Poor dp is on nights. I'm ok feeling tired and have gone off my morning cup of tea

Beattie am sorry to hear your news and I hope your weekend is going ok and the bleeding minimal.

Angel yes you have got me and lol mixed up ! I certainly hope my ex doesn't want me back

Lol did you dtd ??? (you don't have to answer)

Hippy how are things ? I'm sorry I know nothing about clomid, know lots about moving house though I still have boxes to unpack and mirrors and pictures to put up. All in good time... Maybe you should leave the clomid until you are settled but keep up with the swi, being distracted and moving house seemed to work for me.

Diege I had to google Phil & Teds !! You can tell how long I've been out of the baby game. Well done on you for your devotion and dedication to the AQA.

Hi to Italian, curly shandy Gum Hairy and everyone else xx

hi panashe - you made me laugh about hoping your ex wont wanting you back

glad all is ok with you thus far. I'm really only worried that being in a permanent state of 'about to ov' could be damaging my ovaries somehow - it's not even about getting pregnant this month as i accept that I am just too stressed. I might call GP tomorrow and check if it's ok to get a strong pos on an opk for a bloody week - down side is that DH is convinced this is the egg and keeps insisting we top up the supply of troops - as if I don't have enough to do already!!!!

love to all. XXX

Mm that does sound a bit painful hippy, although I think it's sweet your dp thinks this is the one, very positive thinking. Maybe it would be worth checking it out in case the clomid is having a funny effect. Mind you I doubt it is damaging to your ovaries.

My Af has finally cone to an abrupt end. A very peculiar thing as yes I did have an ultrasound after my mmc treatment and there was a bit of 'product' left. But I had an Af weeks after my treatment with what seemed like the remains being passed. This long heavy Af was 15 days after that Af.

gum I've been looking at what a cp is as I wasn't sure, but i cant imagine it was that so early on in the cycle. Anyway it's over now as are my drinking nights out, I've been celebrating birthdays and anniversaries, so now down to ttc in earnest again. Better start being nice to dh again, things haven't been so great so ttc is not so appealing and spontaneous if that's ever possible. I may try the preseed too, my weird Af started as that arrived in the post.

bb hope you're getting through things and you gum.

Hi to diege panashe, hairy, curly, lol, lou, tank* and anyone else out there.

Oops missed Italian. I can't believe the Apprentice is ending tonight. I've been loving it too. I think he should take on Helen and Tom together they would make fantastic partners. Suzie is funny mind. Interviews and business plans should be interesting. I don't think Jim has a hope but he is watchable wondering what he will spin next.

Hi all

Hippy Glad you're seeing your GP. It sounds really worrying but there is doubtless a very simple explanation - like, 'is it just the ONE egg do you think?' Doesn't clomid sometimes make you produce more than one egg? Or am I misremembering? How do you feel about triplets?

Panashe I'm so pleased your morning cup of tea's been affected. Good news! I'm going to have to admit I did dtd with xp (after a letter like the one he sent, it's not surprising that I gravitated his way) and would dearly love to think that CD12 (I think that's right; you know me and stats) was the day to do it. That will be my only chance. There was a nice temp spike days 13-14, so here's hoping.

Gum we watched a really sweet British film which has just come out on DVD - Submarine. It's a teen angst/growing up film; the guy at Blockbuster recommended it and some of the little observations showing how teenagers behave made us laugh till we cried. Which was probably what we both needed.

Shandy good luck with wooing dp. Shouldn't take too long Glad things are getting back onto an even keel.

Italian how are things? Still no sign of a donor? Is the wait 'normal' or do people generally find a match quite quickly?

Angel has the peppermint foot massage/reflexology pamper worn off? Are you back at work next week?

Curly loads of love. Hoping little Kyle is being a good boy. I'm being a horrible anti-baby friend at work. One couple I work with have just had the much longed-for baby and are doing my head in with the smug self-satisfied smiles. I had to pretend I needed the loo so I could escape. Sorry if I sound like a cow. I just don't trust myself not to cry and say, 'It's not fair, I want one' like a spoilt child.

Jolls any news?

BB Big hugs - hoping you get through this horrible time soon.

Love to allx

Right huge catch up .....
Gum sorry for your nasty time good to hear you are upbeat and brave enough to keep trying
BB natural MC sucks it really does hope you don't get the hideous bleed thing and it tails off gently got mine half way across Tesco car park in a bid to get some of those really massive pads so I could watch DS play football ....not good... try to take it easy
Angel and Deige lovely you are both fine
Panashe great news well done and am delighted your tea is off the menu, that and being tired... its all good
Hi to everyone else just a quick one think I am 1DPO but to be honest who knows think I had o-pain yesterday but that could be just me coming out in sympathy for poor Hippy ....so have hung up my vest for the next few weeks. Heres a good one though,last month after days of sore biscuits and feeling sick AF arrived late on my birthday ! ....Thanks a million mother nature for that one