Fantastic 40+ thread - part 4

[hippychick66]

Come on ladies - you know who you are .......

gum it goes a bit like this (two seperate theories)

When a baby thinks it's matched to the parents it's soul enters the mothers body and hangs around. It circles the spine three times and if it is satisfied it's karmically matched, then it stays. If not it leaves. Sometimes it's matched but it's bot the right time, so sometimes it re-enters and re-exits more than once until the mother is ready.

And

Sometimes souls are very enlightened - so much so that they need only the lightest touch with human life before becoming fully enlightened.

My sister did a [catsbum face] when I told her ... I find them strangely comforting

I love the expression catsbum face - hilarious and you can just imagine it immediately.

Hi Italian feel you may be right about Helen though shame as I think shes brill. You have such a lovely way with words and sound so positive I do hope you get your treatment very soon. I m fine ta.. At the Lake District at the moment with my family in a gorgeous cottage.
Hippy so glad you re getting all sorted. What's your actual moving date?
Love to all xxxx

Thanks Hairy, I have actually read a book called "Spirit Babies", which says much the same thing. However I find it hard to reconcile it. I mean - I feel so ready. But then again, my DH hasn't been very ready.

But then I think - what about all the parents who really don't want a baby and accidentally fall pregnant? How does that fit? I suppose the answer is that although the parents don't feel ready, karmically they are? Or there's a lesson for them? I don't know.The book I have has some meditations and chants to do. Which I tried last time, but it didn't help much. Cos Here I am again!

I just have to trust, that maybe it will work out next time.

Hippy - I am very pleased to hear about the school and your rental. How Fabulous. Are you feeling a bit more relaxed about it now? I guess you now have to pack up. That, to me, is just the worst part of moving. I don't mind the unpacking. I hate the packing though. I loved it when the education department (our employer) moved us to our new posting - they do all the packing and moving for you. So easy. But they did pack everything that wasn't tied down. Even the bin I hadn't yet emptied! Eww!

I've started taking my temperature again - and both mornings they have been quite high - more like post ovulation temperatures. I'm sure I haven't ovulated yet - It's only been a week since the D&C, and even if the baby died 5 days before, it's still too early to ovulate. But then, why these high temps? Have any of you temped shortly after a miscarriage and found this? I guess I'll have to dig up the Toni Weschler book...

Hi hippy wow you've turned things around and are all sorted now, go girl. IOW awaits you.

Italian you sound very calm and philosophical. I hope you find your way to having a child and sib for Dd soon.

hairy another philosophical one.

gum you may well be ovulating things go a bit awry after a mc that's why they like you to wait a month until ttc to be more sure of dates if you were to conceive. But no real need to wait was the advice they gave me.

Having said that I dont know what'd happening with me. I had my mmc medical treatment on 29 May. Had a scan on cd15 which showed me almost ovulating although I had a little remaining debris from the mc which did not need further intervention. Had my Af on cd28 fairly normal so far. But now on cd13 I've started Af again, what's that about?

I haven't been temping and have done a few opk's but didn't get any +ves.

Sorry to post and run....

Fidget born this morning at home (despite geriatric mother!) at 12.50am ... 7 pounds 12 ounzes... perfect

Love and baby dust to all xx

Congrats TTT, ah everything went the way you wanted....fantastic news. Any names yet?

Woo-hoo TTT that's wonderful news. I'm so pleased for you and Mr. TTT, And how wonderful that the whole induction/section worry has been successfully circumvented
Looking forward to hearing your birth story and all the details about your new little one xxx

Shandy after my mc I found that my cycles were a little erratic which is apparently normal, so I've read.

Hi tank congratulations!

hippy well done on the house/school.

As for me, i woke up on Friday convinced I wasn't pregnant any more. Then I realised my boobs were shrunken, weighed myself and I was 5lb lighter. Then I did a test and I was still 2-3 weeks. And today have started bleeding. So it's all over I think. I feel alright (although I was a bit tearful in Ikea earlier on, but then that could just be Ikea!). a bit sad. but ok.

Tank CONGRATULATIONS how fab.

Oh BB I'm sorry to hear that

So sorry BB I missed your post. I really thought this one was going to stick around. I am so sorry, but is it definitely all over. It might not be.

Bb - so sorry to hear you think it might all be over. Is 2-3 weeks not enough then?

on the flip side - TTT wonderful news. congrats to you and hubbie and of course to fidget. Come back soon and tell us all about it. Welcome to our thread 'fidget'. XX

This thread really is amazing. i think we really rejoice when a baby is born to one of us 'oldies' but unfortunately we do have more than our fair share of MCs and CPs as well.

I must confess that I am wondering if I should give up on all this, the more of my 'friends' on here who have MCs the more I feel like it is definitely gonna happen again if I ever get a BFP - but I know that sometimes, just sometimes it works out and that is the thing we are all aiming for.

Thinking of you tonight BB . and smiling for you TTT - you so deserved for this to go right

ps. italian I think Helen should win the apprentice. She has only made one mistake thus far.

pps. just spent the afternoon with a friend's daughter who is 3 but was very premature and is therefore very far behind eg. just started walking but not talking yet. She is very tiny and cute but sadly doesn't seem to engage with others and doesn't meet your eyes much. She was facinated with my long dark fingernails (her mum has short ones and doesn't paint them). She played with my hands for ages. It was lovely and the boys loved pushing her in her buggy but it did make me wonder how we would cope if we had a disabled child ...

well I am 7 weeks tomorrow, so really a digital test would show 3+ weeks by now. I am not going to take any progesterone this evening, just waiting for it all to kick off. (should it just be like a heavy period do you think?). last time was scary and I ended up in hospital needing a blood transfusion, so hoping I won't get like that this time - am on my own with all the children.

TTT any name that you're willing to share with us?

I missed your bit about giving up on it all hippy. i don't know actually. It's such a trial even being pg in the first place - you just can't relax for a minute and always think something will go wrong.

I'm not sure what I'm going to do, but will get through the next few days first.

I went to see a gym near me yesterday, so think I will join that and try to get a bit more toned. And also (looking on the bright side), dh isn't going on holiday with us all in August, and i was really dreading having ms/tiredness etc and having to do all of that on my own. so at least I'll enjoy my holiday now.

Oh BB I'm sorry that you think this might be it As others have said, it isn;t over yet, esp as 2-3 weeks still showing?, but of course I know I would be thinking the same. Would a scan be useful as this point, or would it make things worse? (ie. if inconclusive etc). Thinking of you x
Hippy I think it is natural to reflect on the downs as well as the obvious joys of a baby when you are older. Remember though that even a 48 year old has a LOT more chances of having a baby without a disability than with, and of course many disabilities aren;t linked to age (for eg. cp) Your friend's little girls sounds very sweet; how premature was she?
Sorry for not mentioinig everyone - you know I'm not deliberately ignoring you! I have been reading but struggling to post with the marking - only 106 scripts left now!!! I'm not sure who it was who asked, but in terms of getting them done I sneak them into work (against the rules!!), mark on train (ditto), but generally get up earlier and stay up later. Think this might be my last stint though as too tiring!

Huge congrats TTT fab news xxx
Sorry BB xx please take care xx
Hi all the weather here in the Lakes gorgeous, the cottage fab it's all
Lovely ... xxx

Big congratulations TTT you little star. Welcome fidget. I hope you're ok. I remember that feeling of excitement and elation well of those first few hours with a new baby to get to know. Oh joy of joys.

Bb equal commiserations for you my love. Although perhaps there is some hope?

hippy you have a lot on your plate at the moment. But most people wonder how they would cope with a new baby let alone a disability, but you do and you love them just as much and there is help out there despite the doom and gloom of the headlines.

I just can't believe my body though, how on earth I'm meant to get pg with a cycle of 13 days I do not know. I hope it all settles soon as time ticks on.

Love to everyone else. diege keep at it, panashe , curly, hairy, angel, mitzi, chocolate, lol and everyone else.

Tank - she's beautiful!Congratulations.

BB - so sorry to hear your news. Hopefully, if you are miscarrying, you won't be back at the hospital.

I know what you mean Hippy. It is a worry. But I just want my happy ending, as we all do.

Having a second miscarriage has seriously dented my confidence. But it has also made me realise that it is incredibly common, and many women have many more miscarriages. it's an eye-opener, but is so sad too.

In one of my google searches I came across a blogg where a woman had 6 miscarriages in a row after one healthy baby. In her 7th pregnancy she took a herbal tincture called "welcome womb" and had a healthy babe. Just coincidence? I put up a thread on an American site and another woman said she had two mc's then took the herbs and had two healthy babies. So who knows? I'm going to try them.If I ever get pregnant again...

Hi Gum can I be nosey and ask have you had any MC's in the past? I had 2 pre~ Georgie and through my experience it seemed you were viewed more as normal if you had a couple of MCs rather than it., unfortunately, being abnormal.I felt
, again only through my experiences, pre~ Georgie that a woman who hasn t experienced any MCs ( and I know of a few) are very lucky indeed. Just nosing!!!! Hope you re healing??? Love to u xc
Hi Shandy sorry you re cycles are buggered at the moment hope all settles soon. Can t comment ad apart from the odd annvoluary cycle I ve always been regular. Hippy hope the packing is well under way. BB how are you doing?
Hope you ve someone there to look after you xxx
Hi everyone hope you re all well?
Rant of the day; stupid Posh calling her baby " Harper Seven" ???? need I say
More??!???

Oh my God - she called her baby Harper Seven? Why do celebs have to be so stupid? FFS.

AngelGeorgie, I had no mcs in the past that I am aware of. Each of the times I ttc my first 2 kids, I just got preggers and carried to term. With my 3rd and 4th, got pregnant easily but I had threatened prem labours, but then the girls came at term. With Charlie, I had a 7 month wait to fall pregnant(but that was after a vas reversal and I was 41). So having 2 mcs, one after the other has been so different for me. I know I'm old now, but I guess I just thought my fertility was pretty good and my eggs would still be alright. Reality is certainly a wake up call.

As for healing - I still feel incredibly tired and my patience is just non-existent. My LO is playing up a bit and I can't seem to keep a lid on my frustration. Then I just want to cry when I think of my first due date coming up in 3 weeks. I should be heavily pregnant. Then I thought, at least if I'm pregnant again on that first due date I'll cope, but that's not to be. Oh well, I guess it's just one day at a time...

I have to dash - DH not happy I'm on the computer again when dinner is burning on the stove....

Ah Gum I have every faith in you getting pregnant again and carrying to term. I know from my own experiences that mcs after a pretty easy time of getting pregnant and having babies can be pretty hard to square with your ideas of where your fertility is at. I've had mcs myself, one before ds (dc4) and 2 before this one, and I count myself pretty lucky (looking back - didn't at the time). I suppose if I had stuck at 3 kids, I would never have known mcs. Is there anyone that can give you a bit of a break with your toddler, even just for a few hours?
On a lighter note, think the name (Posh's dd I mean) is a bit odd too. Sounds like either a/ some sort of space ship or b/ 'Half past seven' . Not one I would choose and I like 'unusual' too.
How are things BB? Thinking of you x
Lou your break in the Lakes sounds idyllic
Shandy my cycles post-mc were extremely odd - 2/3 weeks max, but settled down pretty soon (after about 2 odd cycles iirc?)
TTT have looked at your blog and dd is beautiful

TTT Massive congratulations on your home birth Hope it was a wonderful experience. I had one home birth & I recovered so quickly & was the best feeling being at home. xx

Beattie how are you, are you still bleeding ? Do you think you should get checked out ? I was thinking about something Hippy had read saying that progesterone may stop or delay a mc so if that is the case you may not have been very far along and hopefully won't need to go to hospital, a tiny consolation maybe. Maybe there is another reason for the bleeding which would be picked up on a scan ?

I had the tiniest tiniest bit of spotting last night and went to bed convinced it all over & didn't sleep well thinking I ws going to start bleeding any minute, but nothing since so hanging in there at the moment.